RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-04-04 Thread Aaron Tavistock
the state of IronFlare? It would be nice to hear whats going on... -Original Message- From: Karl Avedal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:15 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hello everyone, Time is well overdue for some information from us

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-19 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
% of the world's servers run it. Developers see that the low priced and open source options are maturing and proving themselves. It's just a matter of time. -Original Message- From: Konstantin Polyzois To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/13/01 6:56 AM Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet

RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:41 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? All, Running a training program for EJB's gives me a different perspective when dealing with EJB

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Kev Roberts
I don't think it supports Servlet 2.2/JSP 1.1 yet either..unless it recently has added that support. I am surprised that with $2billion This has now been added in the latest service pack Kev

RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Dude, do you really think a Swedish company with a handful of employees is going to be able to field a worldwide army of training professionals? It just occurred to me that this sounds rather bad... I was trying to imply that it would be unlikely for such training professionals to be sent all

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Rabi Satter
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:41 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I am sorry, but I don't quite understand how training of EJB on Orion is any different than that of other platforms? You are trainging EJB, not the vendor application server. EJB is EJB, no m

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
f [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:41 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? All, Running a training program for EJB's gives me a different perspective when dealing with EJB application vendors like Orion. My

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Duffey, Kevin
l, I can't answer that. Anyways..I hope the class goes well. -Original Message- From: Rabi Satter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:03 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? As a former trainer I can understand exactly what Kevin i

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Jim Archer
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:03 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? As a former trainer I can understand exactly what Kevin is trying to say. That is when you do training you need a platform for the students to learn. In the case of EJB yo

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-14 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:25 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I can not speak for Orion, but I can tell you that I have read many a thread in this list and there are plenty of people knowledgeable about Orion. However

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Konstantin Polyzois
al Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's, good documentation, paid su

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Danut Prisacaru
Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's, good documentation, paid support, etc. But if you look for the opinions of developers who

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Chandika Mendis
: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:57 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? "Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great..." Speaking as someone who has done development using Websphere (3.0 3.02): It sucks! Don't use it for anything but JSP o

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Duffey, Kevin
. -Original Message- From: Danut Prisacaru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:13 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I just played a little bit with WebSphere and I have to agree with Konstantin: it does not work very well. I

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
-- big companies don't mind spending a few thousand for the peace of mind, and in many cases, it is a good investment for them. -Original Message- From: Chandika Mendis To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/13/01 12:42 PM Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I've tried out Unify's Engine

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
--Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2001-02-12 13:58 Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Weblogic (and the high priced products like Websphere) are great, if you want to pay the price. They come with nice tools like front end gui's, good documentation, pa

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Jim Archer
run it. Developers see that the low priced and open source options are maturing and proving themselves. It's just a matter of time. -Original Message- From: Konstantin Polyzois To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/13/01 6:56 AM Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? "Weblogic (and the

Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread vandycan
onse means none of us can gain from it. If you would like to learn more about the mystery of EJB'S, LET ORION KNOW. We need your help. Mike Van C.E.O. JUGerNaut Original Message --- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any news from

Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
Original Message --- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I don't knock the higher priced products, and they do have the lion's share of the market, and many large companies run big applications on them.

RE: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-13 Thread Kevin Duffey
, February 13, 2001 9:41 PM To: Orion-Interest Cc: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? All, Running a training program for EJB's gives me a different perspective when dealing with EJB application vendors like Orion. My experience is that they (expensive vendors like BEA

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
, but they are not ready yet and have to prove themselves. Jonas is OK but I prefer the other open source alternatives. -Original Message- From: Anthony W. Marino To: Orion-Interest Sent: 2/11/01 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? On another note, can you and/or someone, qualify

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-12 Thread Andrew Whalley
1 Orion -- This product is ready now, but I haven't seen anyone from this list run a Sears store on it. http://www.printpotato.co.uk/ is ran on orion, and is a fair sized application. Unfortunately tw2 who are developing it have just gone out of buisness.

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-11 Thread Anthony W. Marino
shake out before I abandon ship. -Original Message- From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of e

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-06 Thread Fink, Paul
So, no good news then, eh? -Original Message- From: Robert Krueger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:11 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? At 11:33 02.02.2001 , you wrote: Any news from Orion yet?? Two weeks and nothing

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-02 Thread Aristides Tavares dos Santos
Any news from Orion yet?? Two weeks and nothing ... - Original Message - From: "Karl Avedal" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hello everyone, Time is w

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-02-02 Thread Robert Krueger
At 11:33 02.02.2001 , you wrote: Any news from Orion yet?? Two weeks and nothing ... well, the only news is 1.4.5. (-) Robert Krger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft fr Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brder-Knau-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED],

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-16 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
to use them. -Original Message- From: Karl Avedal To: Orion-Interest Sent: 1/15/01 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hello everyone, Time is well overdue for some information from us about the release schedule and when you can see your bugs fixed. I'm sorry to say that I can't

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-16 Thread Luke Gorrie
"Mike Sick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As developers, I'm sure everyone has slipped a deadline at least once :) Never! ;-)

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread PHiL
tures. Any users here ??? Regards, PHiL -Message d'origine- De : Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoy : lundi 15 janvier 2001 07:57 : Orion-Interest Objet : Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files,

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread Jason Boehle
PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files, does 6.0 include that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR + JAR + CAR(or JAR

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread Fink, Paul
Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files, does 6.0 include that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR + JAR + CAR(or JAR)? To deploy the JPS1.1.1 on Orion, it is a piece of cake

RE: Any news from Orion yet??: Rebuttle...

2001-01-15 Thread Robert Krueger
To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files, does 6.0 include that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR = WAR + JAR + CAR(or JAR)?

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread Aaron Tavistock
14, 2001 3:43 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Ditto. We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However, it seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We might have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is going

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 12:21 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Jason Boehle wrote: WL6 has support for EARs. They also support all of the EJB 2.0 spec except for dependent obj

OT: RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-15 Thread Jason Boehle
, January 15, 2001 10:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? Well the best thing about WL is you don't have to worry about support... There isn't any!!! No real they have some of the worst support I have ever seen. -Original Message- From: Santosh Kumar [SMTP

RE: Any news from Orion yet??: Rebuttle...

2001-01-15 Thread mascolino . mr
Message- From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet?? Hi kevin, As far as i have known WL5.1 or , there is no concept of ear files, does 6.0 include

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-14 Thread Tony Wilson
Ditto. We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However, it seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We might have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is going on at Orion will help out a lot. Tony Wilson -Original

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-14 Thread Trond Nilsen
Ditto. We are seriously considering Orion for our production system. However, it seems like support for this product has stopped, and is lacking. We might have to go elsewhere. Just a few words about what is going on at Orion will help out a lot. Tony Wilson No idea why there's no

RE: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-14 Thread Kevin Duffey
I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy to work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very interesting as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville Burnell Sent: Sunday,

Re: Any news from Orion yet??

2001-01-14 Thread Santosh Kumar
Duffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet?? I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy to work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very