. Whilst advocating on behalf of a group of people for a
particular issue, they try to influence political policy on that particular
issue.
Ok, I'll stop getting off track - back to Uni work!
Jo
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Hi Catherine.
I used it once or twice in the last 20 months. I think it's 2
capsules 3x per day, but I took one once and 6 hours later I had
MELONS on my chest. I don't think I really needed it, but I was just
having one of those small moments of self-doubt.
Jo
On 14/02/2007, at 6:45
I have had adverse reactions to fenugreek every time I have tried it
and when I spoke to my homeopath about it she actually said she never
recommends it herself because it seems rather innocuous but is
actually quite a powerful diuretic and blood thinner and can cause
exactly the problems
Hi Julie,
I think 1991 she was here for the International Homebirth Conference held in
Sydney. She was also here a few years ago 2003?? 2004?? At the NACE
conference in Sydney.
All the best
jo
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month we will have more information regarding venues and
registrations.
Warm regards
Jo Hunter
Jo Hunter
National Convenor Homebirth Aus
Coordinator Homebirth Access Sydney
Innate Birth doula and CBE
(02) 47 51 9840
Woohoo!! What wonderful, wonderful news Phillipa. Congratulations to
you and all the family and friends who supported you.
On 04/02/2007, at 12:01 AM, Philippa Scott wrote:
Hi all,
I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was
born gently and beautifully into the
I put on almost 20kg and mine had to be broken after the birth :) I
know it's just anecdote, but I find this stuff interesting.
Jo
On 22/01/2007, at 9:21 AM, Michelle Windsor wrote:
I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently
(possibly on this list!) that women who
Maybe I am alone in this but having coslept with our first and used a
cot for #2 I found the opposite to be true - I get so much better
quality sleep without the baby in bed with me that it is definitely
worthwhile getting up even three times a night to feed her and then
put her back in
I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it
correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard
of this?
Jo
On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote:
Hi all,
Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to
break (AROM
When I was confirming what my health insurance would cover ($2k
towards a planned homebirth and a private transfer if it became
necessary) I explained that my pregnancy was somewhat high risk but
the birth, if I was healthy at term, should not be. They asked what
my OB thought about my
Some women just never spill bHCG, and just in general you can get a
false negative but pretty much never a false positive.
On 08/01/2007, at 2:59 PM, Andrea Quanchi wrote:
Anne the pregnancy test reading levels of bHCG which are elevated
only in the first trimester and peak at 60-90 days
Are they getting a brand of witch hazel with too much alcohol in it?
It should be pure double distilled witch hazel which usually has the
tiniest amount of alcohol.
On 24/12/2006, at 6:49 PM, suzi and brett wrote:
Some women have complained to me that the witch hazel tincture
burns so
Thanks, Jayne. I guess I don't fit that theory at all! I am lucky
to have no period. I think my body knows it's not time for another
baby just yet!
Jo
On 23/12/2006, at 1:19 PM, jayne/jesse wrote:
Hey Jo,
I've read (sorry I can't reference to it but this has been in my
own general
,
but for the last 3 months or so, he's been getting no milk between
about 8pm and 4am (ish, give or take). I still have no periods!
Jo
On 22/12/2006, at 12:43 PM, jayne/jesse wrote:
Being 100% pro breastfeeding Barb, I'd like to go along with your
98%. I have to agree with Janet though
You know I have friends whose mother's recollections of what happened
when they were babies vary rather wildly from what was recorded in
their blue books when they tried to confirm stuff to see if there was
a family pattern going on with the next generation. You would assume
that mothers
The message I got as a consumer when taking clexane was that whether
to stop at 36-38w and wait for labour or whether to be induced 24 hrs
after stopping depends very much on the severity of the condition
that requires the clexane in the first place. I stopped at 34w. But
this really
It puzzles me too. Why choose an evidence based carer and then take
them
somewhere they can't provide you with it?
Because if you know you have a higher than average change of NEEDING
a hospital if might be nice to have someone who knows you, cares
about you and will actually give you
and
maintain your
skills. cheers
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Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 8:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] independent midwifery
It puzzles me too. Why choose an evidence based
Speaking as a consumer who just paid sydney prices for a homebirth -
the cost of living is higher here than most if not all other cities
in Australia. It's one of those odd things that some careers are FAR
better paid in Sydney than elsewhere, others are not. We, for example
are far better
Actually my out of pocket costs for my OB were pretty much equal to
my out of pocket costs for my midwife. Even with private health
insurance and the medicare safetynet private OBs are far more
expensive in Sydney than elsewhere too.
The real question as far as Im concerned ( yes I have a
From what I've heard, it is a drug not licensed for use in
obstetrics (but it is used, obviously) ... I can't remember it's
primary function though. And I can't be bothered googling right now.
Jo
On 15/11/2006, at 5:02 PM, meg wrote:
I work at a major tertiary hospital-we stock
Ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying. :)
Jo
On 15/11/2006, at 6:25 PM, Melissa Singer wrote:
Hi Jo,
I think it is not licenced for use for induction of labour with
live babies in australia. It's ok for stillbirth induction and pph.
Melissa
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This didnt come back to me
aplogies if you receive it twice.
J
From: jo
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006
4:54 PM
To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au'
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] doula
for tassie
Wow, Felicity. Thank you so much for this
info
This looks pretty exciting so far! Will have to read it in depth
first though.
I've printed out the document to read while waiting in waiting rooms
and the like ;)
Jo
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Any contacts would be wonderful.
Thanks in advance
Jo x
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Homebirth Aus
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Access Sydney
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Great! Thanks Jan. Have just emailed them.
Was wondering how the insurance for
midwives is going, are you nearly at the 200 needed?
Cheers
Jo x
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Sent
Hi Renee,
She lives in a place called Donn (sp?)
apparently near Devonport. She doesnt have email but is calling me back
tomorrow and I said Id try to have some info for her then.
Thanks Renee
Jo x
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Thanks heaps, Paivi and Janet! I will pass that on.
Jo
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FYI
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From: Felicity Gibbins
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2006
9:13 AM
To: Felicity Gibbins
Subject: Birth Choices Info
http://kellymom.com is a great source of breastfeeding information.
On 25/10/2006, at 8:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I'm after some advice or information of BFing a baby who is lactose
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Good for you Tania, I hope all goes well
let us know!
After our phone conversation last night I
suppose you can give dates for the next Homebirth Australia Conference!
love
Jo x
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Hi all,
Happy Homebirth Awareness Week!
I hope theres lots of awareness going on around
the country!
Love Jo x
success story Di.
Thanks for sharing
Jo
From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of D. Morgan
Sent: Monday, 23 October 2006
11:17 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] rural
maternity services
Kenacomb ointment on the nipples tiny amount and dab off before expressing (perhaps by hand?) and yes you can give baby EBM with blood in it - as long as she is hep c and hiv neg.Good luck to her! It can be done!JoOn 23/10/2006, at 7:43 AM, diane wrote:HiI have a friend who birthed last week
cant see
that any of this would require insurance.
Warn regards
Jo Hunter
From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006
10:29 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject
I can have a look at work this afternoon if it's not too chaotic.See what I come up with.JoOn 19/10/2006, at 10:06 PM, Mary Murphy wrote:"Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary?" Lisa, the usual "window", especially when technology and machines is concerned is 5 yrs.
, well actually, you don't have enough
milk, so we'll need to intervene and give formula?
Just musing :)
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Just singles here, Mary.Hope you're well :)xxJoOn 14/10/2006, at 4:16 PM, Mary Murphy wrote:I am receiving 2 of everyone’s emails. Is this happening to others or just me? MM
Absolutely routine in private births where I work, but getting there
with the public ones, too, sadly.
Jo
On 13/10/2006, at 4:07 PM, Naomi Wilkin wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering how common it is for cord blood gases to be done in
maternity units. I work in a small metro. hospital
Justine I would LOVE to see these !!JoOn 12/10/2006, at 9:49 PM, Justine Caines wrote: As a British midwife I have experienced lots of breeches but this was the first time in the water. It was amazing as the water stopped that hang and the pressure that the cord is sometimes under. Apart from
Well there is nothing they can do about making you accept a medical
procedure you don't want!! Her body, her baby, her choice to be
constantly monitored or not.
On 02/10/2006, at 5:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a woman wanting a VBAC in my forums, who is also a dear friend
and I
does have the energy could organise
something and let HBA know what you are doing so we can advertise it on our
website.
Warm regards
Jo Hunter
National Convenor HBA
Coordinator HAS
Innate Birth CBE and doula
else but not sure what. Perhaps even childbirth
education, but I'm not sure.
Thanks!
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When researching for my own preg I found that doppler and CTG is more direct and therefore more intense than visualno refs sorry, BF at keyboardJo :)On 23/09/2006, at 7:52 AM, Roberta Quinn wrote:Can anyone tell me the difference between a hand-held doppler and a visual ultrasound macine? Is a
Me too - let us know if you get a reply - thanks :)JoOn 14/09/2006, at 6:53 AM, Pinky McKay wrote:Barb _ I registered but could figure out how to vote so have emailed the site owners.Pinky- Original Message -From: Barbara Glare Chris BrightTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday,
I agree and disagree, Tania.I believe there IS an us and them. I am a hospital based Midwife... I see 'them' homebirth based Midwives and look up to and admire them for their experience and expertise in home birth. I look at the hospital based Midwives I work with and also admire their
choice for Australian women register their interest and
once the 200 are on a list discussions can begin on how it will all work.
Warm regards
Jo Hunter
National Convenor HBA
HAS Coordinator
Innate Birth CBE and doula
From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner
LOL I didn't even notice you left!
Jo :)
On 01/09/2006, at 3:12 PM, Mary Murphy wrote:
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Jo, I had forgotten just how clear the photo was. No wonder I
http://www.pregnancystore.com/zaky.htm
I think this is actually a real product...
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I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it
all out, and there it is:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg
:)
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Good point, Tania. It's not the only tool. I'll have to get a pic
of my butt again next baby to compare the visibility of TPL.
Stunning, eh? Well, I think I will have to keep this email forever :)
Thanks ;)
Jo
On 01/09/2006, at 11:35 AM, Tania Smallwood wrote:
Megan
Sure. Just don't look at my butt ;) There are no attachments
allowed on this mailing list, am I right?
I guess I can just email it to those who ask to see it.
:)
Jo
On 31/08/2006, at 7:07 AM, meg wrote:
Can we see it?
Megan
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Hi all,
Just a reminder that Oct 25th
31st is National Homebirth Awareness Week, so if you are
planning to do something in your local community it may be time to start
organising!
Regards
Jo Hunter
National Convenor HBA
Coordinator HAS
Innate Birth CBE and
doula
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I am a consumer who spends a lot of time listening to other women.
At 4:52 PM +1000 9/8/06, Gail McKenzie wrote:
Jo, do you work in a hospital in a postnatal ward? I want to know what
homebirth midwives know about this
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Michelle, can I please post this to another group? There is some talk in misc.kids.breastfeeding on usenet about 'trying' to breastfeed. I won't put your name on it at all, if you like.Thanks :)JoOn 09/08/2006, at 12:58 PM, Michelle Windsor wrote:Hi Gail, I too wondered why breastfeeding
their 'required feed', what other
choice is there? (sarcasm).
Do or do not - there is no try ;)
Jo
On 09/08/2006, at 3:04 PM, suzi and brett wrote:
Agree with others - Plus in hosp: too many cooks/ opinions
conflicting and confusing information, very few midwives practice
Hands Off
this syndrome and can easily be
diagnosed as thrush.
Food for thought!
Jo Hunter
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Precisely why I never had the OGTT in my pregnancy. No proven improved outcomes for mums or babies with diagnosed and 'treated' GD.JoOn 04/08/2006, at 4:49 PM, Mary Murphy wrote:The best way for those who disagree is to find the definitive studies that address all of Henci’s points. If is such an
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I think the list is quiet. I have emails from
Mary and you Sue.
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Welcome back, Mary!JoOn 22/07/2006, at 10:16 AM, Mary Murphy wrote:Just returning to the list after holidays. MM
Congratulations, Janet! Well done :)Welcome, Isobel!JoOn 15/07/2006, at 7:29 PM, Janet Fraser wrote:Isobel Joy Stokes Fraser was born beautifully at home, in water, into her daddy's hands Thursday 13th July. She weighs 3.7kgs and has taken to life earthside with remarkable alacrity! Thanks to
than likely
have a huge population of beautiful blond haired, blue eyed boys that were so FU%#
UP that theyd all end up like Martin Bryant (remember the Port Arthur massacre).
Food for thought!
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Thanks for your reply on the Today show, Pinky ;)I thought you came across really well, and hopefully made people think twice about co-sleeping, especially.9am with David and Kim, what's that show? Or is that the name of the show? I don't think we get that here in WA if it is the name.Good
questions on Today from you? The media response has been phenomenal -I have already been asked back on several of them. Pinkywww.pinky-mychild- Original Message -From: Jo WatsonTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:09 PMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV
HH! Anyone else screaming at the
tv
jo
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Tonight (VIC) Caesarean Births
FYI
OOH, can someone please provide a rundown on this for us not in Victoria? Or do you think there will be a transcript?Thanks,JoOn 10/07/2006, at 4:32 PM, Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote:FYI there is a story on tonight about increased caesareans being performed. Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator,
Thanks Janet - had given that no: apparently a no go!
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Noeline Lang
Hi all,
Have had an enquiry from a woman in Orange (NSW) wanting a homebirth -
anyone know of any willing midwives?
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Actually, NSW Health is really moving now. They have
FYI
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Hi all,
Read below for the article that appeared in the Geelong
What a fabulous idea re: stickers for
ozmidders!
Looking fwd to meeting many of you there.
Jo Hunter
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Sent: Friday, 23 June 2006 10:34
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!
Congratulations on all that you do
Carolyn.
Warm regards
Jo Hunter
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I am going! I'm bringing a Midwife friend and my 1yo (who my sister will look after during the days). Can't wait!Jo WatsonOn 22/06/2006, at 4:24 PM, Susan Cudlipp wrote:Are many Ozmidders going to the conference?Sue
be the person to ask about the ABA sticker I have: "Human Milk for Human Babies"... does that come in a sew-on patch, by any chance? :)Thanks,Jo
*thanks* :)JoOn 22/06/2006, at 8:35 PM, Barbara Glare Chris Bright wrote:No sew on patch. Will add stickers to the inventory! Barb- Original Message -From: Jo WatsonTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:19 PMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 24th HBA conf - Tickets
I'm sure that is right for normally birthed babies, but those born via c/s or who have their cords clamped early don't get their 'owed' blood volume, so their iron stores might not be as good as they should be.JoOn 19/06/2006, at 7:58 AM, Mary Murphy wrote:Does anyone have information about the
I would say that would be the best way to carry the baby, as the load will be closest to her body, therefore the lightest.HTHJoOn 17/06/2006, at 4:27 AM, Päivi Laukkanen wrote:Hi, I was asked by a woman if she can wear a babysling two weeks after her c-section. She was told not to carry anything
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for 8 days
constant water trickling 37 +1 labour started 4 hours,
beautiful healthy baby born in lounge room.
Times, clocks, protocols, policies, its
all a load of rubbish.
Jo
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!
Thanks for listening
Jo
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Sent: Friday, 16 June 2006 2:14 PM
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long before synto is used?
I haveto say
on those love and laugh hormones! Perhaps people should suggest
that before synto?
Jo
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At 6:49 PM +1000 11/6/06, Sue Cookson wrote:
Hi,
This article appeared in last week's Sydney Morning Herald.
I think it's amazing and it appears that some of the information is incorrect
in that the article states that NSW
, blood
transfusion uuugg would've eaten a horse to avoid that again!
Jo
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I know
settled with
pain relief). The woman birthed and had no further problems with BP.
Cheers
Michelle
Eclamptic seizures happen, if I remember correctly, due to the oedema on
the brain, not necessarily what is in the blood.
Please correct me if Im wrong, anyone!?
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Try Jan Robinson - National Coordinator of Aus Society of Independent
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She'll have a current list of IPM's.
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I can relate to this.
When I was pregnant a doctor at work asked where I was having my baby.
When I said, "At home" he said, "Show me your armpits!" ... "I wouldn't
have picked you for a hippy!"
Nice...
Jo
Mary Murphy wrote:
At the
mom
it great when you get to work with a women who
is making those demands, and get to advocate for them - its very safe
territory because we are doing what our midwifery competancies demand.
Love Suzi
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Jo Bourne
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never experienced birth first hand can truly understand it.
Nothing will EVER match my birth experiences (Ooooh, maybe catching
my grandchildren one day) Id love to be pregnant and give birth another 10
times I just dont want anymore kids 4s enough for
me!
Cheers
Jo
From: owner
an obstetrician
BUT
A woman can not choose a known midwife
Choice, fear, informed decisionsall in the interpretation!
jo
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