At 05:50 PM 3/3/2006, you wrote:
I'm logged into the pluggedin site. Where can i download the white
paper from inside it?
It has been integrated into Palm's standard documentation file, aka
PalmDeveloperGuide.pdf; see the NVFS section inside System Extensions there.
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recipe).
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autoresponder. Then, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying:
set palm-dev-forum mail
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not to the original senders instead of
the list (which would automatically unsubscribe the offenders.) Yes,
I'm particularly talking about the servers at Palm and PalmSource... :-(
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is probably for you to programmatically set a
selection via LstSetSelection. If you don't, then the selected item
can be a random value and might cause the behavior you're seeing.
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that a basic system service like MemMove()
is broken, it shows that I need to take a break :-)
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or two.
As for the References header: it isn't one of the ones which we've
asked the server to strip, so we'll ask Lyris (the company which
makes the mailing list sw) if there's something which can be done.
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is that the autoresponder should have the
intelligence to notice that it is about to respond to a mailing
list. There's a standard header which our list server adds
(x-precedence:bulk) which autoresponders should look for. Some don't
look, sadly, so they cause this problem.
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your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For example, if you wanted to send a message to the owner of the
palm-dev-forum, you would send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(I'll do it this time, assuming I get a bounce you're talking about,
due to me sending this post...)
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to it.)
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you read up on the endianness issues, maximum size of PNO code
due to resource limits, etc.
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deleted? Probably not related but still...
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This is a post I have put up twice before but still not found a solution.
I am backing up and restoring a database when I open and close my app. I
do this using VFSExportDatabaseToFile to backup
application on the Palm OS Emulator? If you can get it to
run there, POSE is excellent at detecting these sorts of stack corruptions
immediately.
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of software might be completely bug-free.
I agree with Dr. Vesselin Bontchev that the best way to figure things
out is to break the algorithm out into pieces, and step through with
a debugger. Shouldn't be hard to figure out what's causing it to
loop forever.
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give you a call.
Roel, the same goes for you, assuming you've already followed the
instructions on the webpages as to what to do. (I simply have to say
that part, because many people don't bother doing so, which is a huge
waste of time for everyone...)
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)
- there are probably other pitfalls that don't come to mind right now
In short, it is much easier to use a launch code if you're not
running, and besides, you don't really gain much by going the
ProcAlarm route anyway, unless you're a part of the ROM.
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Which line is causing the error? Step through with the debugger...
(Could it be that you have a copy-and-paste mistake? You're detaching
9780 twice.)
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Hi y all,
I am currently developing around on my PalmOS app and have encountered the
following error in my
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This is right. Remember that the Launcher is just another
application, and in fact on most operating systems this is the case
no matter how much this fact is hidden by the UI. Furthermore, the
built-in launcher might not be the one
be nay-sayers; I can't count how many times people have
said we're dead... some say it every year or more, for the last oh 8
years? Take it with a grain of salt as one person's opinion/rant.
Just realize we can't say much and don't want to until real devices
are available.
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to happen does
actually happen; instead, take charge! If you've a requirement, then
make it so! Enqueue that key as if the user hit the Home button and
you're done!
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keyDowns
as being handled unless you really did. Or unless you need to
override the standard behavior because you're an arcade game or
whatever.
Of course I could be way off base since I didn't actually look up 0x13D :-)
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licensees for various reasons, particularly contractual ones.
If you must use a background thread on 5.x and earlier, use as few
system services as possible: most of 5.x wasn't designed for
reentrancy and those sorts of problems are the hardest to debug.
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devices would hurry up and ship so
this'd be built-in and fairly easy!)
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need to
have your main event loop see) then don't use it. It isn't magic...
See option C of the modal dialogs recipe:
http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/recipes/modal_dialogs.html
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and keep using your existing tools.
Other tools vendors could well provide versions of their tools which
create Protein applications which use new 6.x functionality. I can't
say anything about their unannounced plans.
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; that's why we write them.
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David Fedor wrote:
Is PODS (Eclipse) is the only way for developing application
in Version 6?
No. You can use existing versions of CodeWarrior, prc-tools, etc.
to build a 68k application which can continue to run in 6.x just
like it did in 5.x and 4.x.
...
I am impressed with the work
think) has sample code and an explanation. If you don't get it in
email, look at http://www.palmsource.com/developer/newsletter/ in a
few days.
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, and will work due to the PACE
compatibility layer.
In fact there's no real difference between 5.x and 6.x in this respect.
(Try it out on the simulator!)
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I am trying to debug an application using palm os developer suite...
Which version of PODS are you using? The one which was posted a few
days ago? (If not, you should...)
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in on
where it happens. Presuming you can't reproduce the problem by
stepping in the debugger, of course.
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is to have this process be
pretty open with reasonably frequent tools postings along the way,
especially between here and 1.0.
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or not. Try making sure the values are all
positive.
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to minimize the per-record overhead, e.g. by bundling
several records together into one item, particularly if your data
is read-only or rarely written.
Standard database design techniques apply, memory isn't free, custom
designs can always improve upon general-purpose solutions, etc.
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another thread for your
callback routine, so in most cases, you're automatically getting what
you want.
And of course, Palm OS Cobalt includes a standard set of threading APIs.
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(inadvertently) taps on the screen in
a certain place, that might well be worth investigating :-)
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I have the exact same problem in my program (a WAP browser). If I have the
main browser window open and close or open the slider it closes the program.
It only does
remember if it would pick up a
RAM-based version of the prefs app; if it does, then you could have
an app in RAM with the same creator ID (and/or name?) of the prefs
app and perhaps you'd get launched instead of the ROM-based prefs
app. Worth testing.
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to the screen; now we have to share and play
nice. Understandably, doing a transition is difficult, but usually
is worth it for the long term.
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to a 6.0 device,
whether as a 68k application running in PACE, or as a Protein
application.
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I can simply hardcode it?
No, I don't believe you can rely on that assumption.
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, but a business one.
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BmpBitsSize probably.) You'll also need to look at the rowBytes
value which it returns, to know how to parse the data you get.
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is
having it be easy to use.
See http://www.palmsource.com/interests/religion_christianity/ for a
pretty good list of what's out there, including one app which I
happen to like a lot :-)
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code) for additional
control over events.
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You can get a near periodic nilEvent if you set the timeout parameter in
EvtGetEvent to something other than 0. Set the time out to something at
least twice the desired frequency and look at the current tick count before
better than using the old null event tick pseudo-API,
and should work on any OS version.
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data has different values than in
other contexts, etc.
Using a debugger is the way to find the bug :-)
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expecting.
So yes, it is unfortunately more work on older devices, but that's
mostly because very few people needed arbitrarily thick lines which
weren't horizontal or vertical.
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Is there a 3-D graphics library in Cobalt? An OpenGL port would be
very nice.
The new Gc API set should be very comfortable if you know OpenGL, but
it is only 2d at this point.
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(), but saving its bits is unlikely to do the
right thing so I'm not surprised it fails.
However, returning an undocumented error code would be a bug. How
about reporting it at http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/ so it
gets officially logged and addressed?
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If you make SampleCollapse_R3 and put it on the OS 6 Simulator, you can see
a problem by doing the following:
Thanks for providing an actionable bug report! I don't have cycles
to look at it myself today (today is meeting after meeting), but
hopefully someone else will be able to.
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what they
need, when they need it, and I think we've been doing pretty well
balancing the sometimes conflicting constraints. And I'm very open
to your feedback.
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slanderous allegation :-)
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talking about 100% solutions, since that's basically
trolling :-) We did a heck of a lot of work to keep things unchanged
when possible, and the changes we made were done for specific reasons
which were judged to outweigh the inconveniences.
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certainly save you time if you're
constantly rebooting.
FASTBOOT=1 will skip the welcome app and go straight to the launcher.
Sort of redundant if you've also set the AppCreator.
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It looks like FASTBOOT is not in the PDF file.
That's correct - I should have said that it isn't officially
supported at this point. Consider it a power user feature.
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should be able to
download it via the standard Eclipse update mechanism.
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, if you never call these functions, but you can't force
it to doze. (If you don't lead your horse to water, it can't
drink...?)
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for
communicating with developers. A name or official contact-point,
and possibly even an introduction would certainly be appreciated.
They've had their own DTS group for quite a while; they run the
http://pluggedin.palm.com website. As opposed to the platform's
http://www.palmos.com/ site.
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, and you might be running into something because of
that. More info would help people take a guess at the cause of the
problem.
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don't actually have to understand why the routines work; just
build them into your app and call them at the right times.
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a different extension, since it isn't unusual for
people to be confused and think they can drop one rom file on a
different Simulator.)
Hope this clarifies...
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I've not had any response to this so I thought I'd forward it to p-d-f,
as I am dead in the water in regards
code. See the knowledge base
articles on high density, not to mention the docs.
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you really want to rely on.
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and it is OK, there is also about 10
short entries), VFS goes bad and returns the vfsErrFileGeneric error.
I think I remember that this was a restriction of the FAT system
itself, and doesn't apply to files which aren't in the root. Use
directories!
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in January
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(BTW the Tungsten C is ARM-based; it is the Tungsten W which is 68k-based.)
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in the first place.
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At 7:45 AM + 5/14/03, g3BEPA wrote:
Hi, where did you grab it from? I've been looking around but cant
find the source.
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I recall something like this being discussed in the past
. It got lots better in 4.0 and higher.
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: the blitter will crash since it doesn't undo the memory
protection.
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be worth
investigating.
In other words, I don't have an opinion I'm willing/able to offer,
other than wanting to ensure you understand the tradeoffs.
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The infrastructure as shipped in Palm OS 5 isn't the one that we are
supporting for the long term, so it doesn't make sense to have apps
that only ran on 5 but neither prior nor subsequent OS releases.
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might consider allocating large hunks of memory in the storage
heap. Few things are ever locked in the storage heap, and it is much
bigger anyway, so you've got a better chance of the system being able
to produce a big contiguous chunk there.
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they send are
highly dependant on the lower levels of the system. Too many things
will change in those areas to make a firm guarantee.
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have been a meeting alarm set by
the datebook, or an alarm set because some app has to do some
housekeeping, or various other things only limited by developer
imagination. Datebook-style alarms are only one reason to wake up
with the Alarm Mgr mechanism.
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a bitmap at runtime whose bits I
can access directly? section, but the rest is worth at least a skim
so you know what's going on.
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with the
newer window mgr) it'll do bad things.
Usually you'd use PilRC or PalmRez to put these together, though;
they're careful to get things right...
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ARM back into 68k code all the time -
there's a lot of context to bring up and down. Besides, most hacks
assume way too much about the OS and its internal structures, so even
if they were called they probably wouldn't work anyway.
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dynamic heap, and the Palm Tungsten T has
2mb (I think - or perhaps 1; I forget.)
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on a real device is always
good; I'm probably less concerned since I've been able to do that
testing and didn't need to change anything :-)
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is, and if there is a supported way to do what
you want, I don't know.
And just a reminder: testing on Pose is far better than testing on a
device, in the vast majority of situations. It finds bugs, whereas
the device tries to hide them.
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the UI to wake up. I
forget precisely what triggers it, though.
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isn't quite the right time yet.
As for 5.0 versus 5.1... we'll be clarifying that distinction really
soon, but suffice it for now to point out that the Palm OS 5
simulator you've been using for several months says it is 5.1.
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When I search and open CtlGlue.h in my other computer which
has CodeWarrior version 8.0, I can't find CtlGlueSetFont. Do you guys
know where they (PalmOS) move this function?
It is part of the most recent release of PalmOSGlue. Install the
Palm OS 5 SDK and you should be all set.
-David
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, so
re-implementing it would be a bad idea.)
Why not call SysGetTrapAddress()? The whole point of that function
is to give you the address.
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3.3 or 3.5. Even before then, it basically worked, but just didn't
look correct. (It only knew how to draw up and down arrows, so the
visual look was very bad!)
I see the docs don't say anything either way about horizontal ones.
Hmm. Well, they should.
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PalmSource has never really defined much info on fonts, including
the high-res variety...
On the contrary, it is all in the Fonts chapter of the Reference doc,
as of the 5.0 documentation release. (I had a hard time finding it
too, but that's a fairly logical place nevertheless.)
-David
there are lots of PRCs on the card.
Try to do it in the background if you can, by having a timeout on
EvtGetEvent and checking a few every time you get a nilEvent. Makes
for much nicer interface than making the user wait.)
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this.
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your .r file
contain the following:
type 'msrc' {
hex string;
};
read 'mrsc' (1000) helperapp.prc
I used that technique in the Waves sample app which is part of the 5.0 SDK.
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Thank you, David, for adding memory leak detection to Poser!
All the credit goes to Keith Rollin; I'm just the bearer of glad tidings.
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of the Pavilion on palmos.com
which is designed to demonstrate the right way to do things like this.
It'll eventually be made public but it isn't quite as polished as they
want, I believe. Check it out - it is called BmpRsc I think.
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mistaken in some respects of
this, I'm told, and the docs folks have been informed already.
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won't
necessarily work like you want.
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when it left the seeding area.
I don't know the status of the GCC link libraries.
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the prefix... see
vfsErrorClass's definition for example), and start debugging. Debugging is
the #1 job of a programmer, so dive in...
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That's correct; build 10 had a bug which prevented it from working on the
older Windows systems (95 and NT4).
Same bug in dr11!
Seems they... ah... mislead us when they told us that fix was integrated
into the dr11 build. They claim the next one will have it.
-David Fedor
PalmSource, Inc
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