Re: Crippled mount; was Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Bill Owens
My guess is the *ist is a new series that will eventually replace the MZ/ZX series. IIRC, the MZ/ZX replaced the Z/PZ series and the Z/PZ replaced.something. Bill - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:

Got to fondle an Optio S and *ist today

2003-03-19 Thread Bill Owens
The Optio S is really nice. As small as it is, it fit my paws just fine. Sweet little camera and is already oversold. The *ist is puzzling. The rep who demonstrated it said it was a pre-production model and was issued to him w/o an owners manual. I like the ergonomics and am interested in heari

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bill Owens
In Iraq of course. The list is an ideal place for weird things to happen under a full moon :-) Bill - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax) >

Re: *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
I have to say, Tom, that name is the dumbest name they could have come up with. Perhaps if everyone had to buy it online, and all they did was LOOK at it, not pronounce it, much less of a problem. However, I think your scenario of Anti-Marketing is about correct. You and I might buy one, regardles

Re: *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Steve Larson
LOLROTF! Well said. It`s like Pentax is just toying with us. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Malling List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: *ist > And while

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Keith, You're right, a hundred times at least! You'd think I'd realize by now that it ain't gonna make any difference, eh? Actually, although it was in reply to Bob, my rant was directed at everyone, on both sides (every side? there are probably more than two) of this thing. I'm feeling

Maybe film cameras still have a role in a PJ's camera bag

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Jones
Hi, According to The Age newspaper (AU Paper) the US has a new bomb called the E-Bomb and it disables electronic devises. This would spoil your day if you had a DSLR :) Heres the quote: "The Pentagon hopes that the star of the show will be the E-bomb, a high-powered microwave bomb sending out a p

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Cameron Hood
That's cause you're such a jerk most of the time nobody can stand you. c. On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:29:07 -0500 From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) Message-ID: <[EM

*ist

2003-03-19 Thread T Rittenhouse
And while we are at it, just how do you pronounce "*ist"? Leave it to Pentax Marketing to come up with a name that is going to cause a potential customer to think, "I have no idea how to ask about that camera. I don't want to make a fool of myselff Let me see that Nikon, please>" Maybe they

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread n5jrn
On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003, at 14:06 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe I've responded no less than 5 times to different folks saying, "I was wrong, My bad, My error, etc." concerning my ignorance and misunderstanding of where you were from and I'm getting Goddam tired of it.. What

Re: SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5

2003-03-19 Thread Andre Langevin
Peter Smekal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which would you prefer on an LX? The 18 would certainly be smaller and lighter and I think 18mm would probably be more useful, more often (15mm is W - I - D - E) but it's very rare and may be even more expemsive. I only have the 15/3.5 but I do love the thin

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread n5jrn
On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003, at 14:06 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [verbiage edited] To reiterate what has been said many times: take it elsewhere. Politics is off-topic for this list. Thank you. -- David Barts Portland, OR

Re: OT Report (was: Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Sorry Captain, I'll have the replicators back up and running in 10 minutes. Regards, Jordi... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stickto Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Downtown Baghdad? BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-)

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
I wish to take this opportunity to harangue Keith who herein harangues Frank for haranguing Bob (me). You guys are a hoot! Har! Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Keith Whale

Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Steve Larson
Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick t

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:32:49 -0800, Keith Whaley wrote: > I sure hope your unit has a Pentax linear amplifier attached to it, or > we'll have some of our members declaring it off limits too! I got a color printer. The store has sticky labels that are compatible with inkjet printers. Sounds li

Re: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
> Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has > inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities > and courteous residents? What about Warsaw, Poland? ;-) Lukasz

Re: Eyeglasses

2003-03-19 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
Carlos Royo said: > Bob Zwarick escribió: > > > > Hi, > > > > I had decided to switch to Canon. However, having to wear glasses, I found > > the Nikon models easier for me to view over the alternatives. > > I still have my Pentax cameras but having increasing difficulty viewing > > with my glasses

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>My emotions got the better of me. I should have followed my own advice... No excuse. Still your round! Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/

Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hmm.. Perhaps we should organize something then.. one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ? Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities and courteous residents? I think this would be a great

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Yep, the style strap that is on the ZX-5 is nice. I have them on my F100 and N80. Pentax wipes right off with a little acetone. Don't like any brand names on my straps. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentax strap on my D100. Much more sexy than the Nikon strap, and it makes better p

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Get off his back. He already apologized an hour an a half before your post. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You've made your point, Fr

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>Look, I know these are troubled times, and everyone is emotionally charged. >Sometimes things slip onto the list, and then get blown up over the course >of a >couple of posts. Shit happens, I realize that. But please, if someone says >something that upsets you, just tell them without subjecting

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>> For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I >> for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I >> don't think anyone else here would either. > >Hey, we let Cotty hang around... > >(why does it seem like all my input of late have been Cotty

OT Report (was: Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of >OT stuff, for the evening, at least, solely for reports from the >field. No editorial comments at all, please. Reporting only. >We have Cotty in England, Boris in Israel, and how others who are in >the thick of it. Just got in.

Re: What if *ist

2003-03-19 Thread James Fellows
I missed that section. I also figured if this was possible somebody else would have thought of it by now. - Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: What if *ist > >What if I take an M or K serie

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread John Mustarde
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:02:37 -0500, you wrote: >I might invest in a strap, but that's a big decision. I'll have to >think about it. > >tv I have a Pentax strap on my D100. Much more sexy than the Nikon strap, and it makes better pictures. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
I sure hope your unit has a Pentax linear amplifier attached to it, or we'll have some of our members declaring it off limits too! keith whaley Ex-WA6GXC Doug Franklin wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:57:50 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: > > > > b. Everyone, get your General Class license and we c

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
You've made your point, Frank, a hundred times over. What do you want from us NOW? If you are talking to Bob Blakely, please take it offline, and harangue at him there. We dodn't have room for Iraq and Bob's messages too! And by the way, take some more apoplectic pills, okay? keith whaley fra

Emergency Sale Also

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
AF200T Excellent $20 Canon AE-1 Program with Canon 50/1.8. Works fine. Glass & lens mechanics fine. Clean inside. $85

Re: What if *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Alan Chan
What if I take an M or K series lens and modify it for matrix metering per Mark Roberts web site? I make sure that there is still metal contact on the one "pin" location as there would be on an A version when the camera is in the A position. I then set the lens to f22 and treat it like a lens se

What if *ist

2003-03-19 Thread James Fellows
What if I take an M or K series lens and modify it for matrix metering per Mark Roberts web site? I make sure that there is still metal contact on the one "pin" location as there would be on an A version when the camera is in the A position. I then set the lens to f22 and treat it like a lens set

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.3.19 5:47 PM, "Carlos Royo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, as this thread started with Boz's message saying he will > leave the list, I join the chorus to ask him to stay. I'm sure that all > the info he can give us about his experience using Canon cameras and > lenses will be welc

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
What "Gamma scale" are you talking about? Gamma, in it's normal use has nothing to do with color temperature or rendition. Making sweeping generalizations for a maker's lens line, that could have dozens of different lenses, is certain to be wrong for a pretty fair number of lenses. BR [EMAIL P

Re: Emergency Sale

2003-03-19 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
> Due to a serious situation I'm going to part with everything I can to cover > needs. > > #1 MX with winder $150 I guess you won't be needing that winder cover then - I was going to send it tomorrow. Sorry to hear about your problems - hope everything workls out fine. Best of luck, Lukasz

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy
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Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread frank theriault
My apologies to the list. I posted several days ago, asking for calm during these troubled times, and then promised myself that I wouldn't, no matter how worked up I got, respond to any political posts; my thought being that just leaving matters alone is the best policy, that responding to crap i

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Gary L. Murphy" Subject: Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax) > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Them MIME suckers never have much to say. WW

Emergency Sale

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
Due to a serious situation I'm going to part with everything I can to cover needs. #1 MX with winder $150 User, but everything works as it should. Meter is +1 stop because of LX screen installed (Set iso to 1/2 of film rating for accurate metering) Shutter lock works properly. #2 Super Program $

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy
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Re: Was: TO FRED, now STOP IT

2003-03-19 Thread Frits Wüthrich
This is a wonderful proposal. On Wednesday 19 March 2003 05:16, Treena wrote: > I think it would be very effective to discourage emotionally-charged > political discussions on the list by requiring anyone who starts one to > provide new *ist Ds to every member on the list. I say this with the most

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Frank, we enjoy giving you an email wedgie. Why, if it weren't for the reactions of good folk like you, all these OTs would soon be boring. So far, only your post of righteous indignation. I must be slipping. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that G

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Peter Jansen
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: "News, as in "Just the facts Ma'am". is OK by me. I think that first hand accounts of what's going on in the rest of the world would be interesting." Yeah it would be interesting but not here please! Remember that this is the PENTAX DISCUSSION MAILING LIST not "WHAT'S GOI

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:57:50 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: > > b. Everyone, get your General Class license and we can all talk on 17 > meters! > > Give me a frequency and time and I'll be there. I'll tune in later. It will be a few months before I can try for my General license. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Crippled mount; was Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:31 US/Central, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What bothers me, (I am not Boz, and I am not switching to Canon anytime soon) > is that the film *ist is now the FOURTH entry-level body they've introduced > with this mount. I have a suspicion that there's a translation probl

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Greene
--- Roland Mabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:56:23 +0100 > Canon makes some great glass too, but I believe it's > a personal thing here. > They all have their characteristics. Isn't Canon and > Nikon quite close here? > High contrast, cool

Re: Controversial photo (was Re: Bombing for peace is like f***ing for virginity)

2003-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Treena wrote: >> Last time we did anything like that, it was also religious young couples >> with small children (as well as male and female retirees). > >I would recommend them to read some of the writings of St. Augustin of >Hippo, especially the Letters and

BG-10 - KEH

2003-03-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On another note... KEH has now lowered the price on the BG-10 grip to, $129.95 - My guess is they are going to completely drop and new Pentax stuff from their inventory... Later, Gary

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Andre Langevin" Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) > >I recall the FD lens mount users gave a great big shit about it when the EOS > >system came out, Bruce. As a matter of fact, they were extremely pissed that > >they, and their equipment was being orphaned. >

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Greene" Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) > Canon #1 eh? > > Not Nikon? Definitely not Nikon. William Robb

KEH

2003-03-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Anyone notice the KEH is not carrying any NEW Pentax bodies or lenses now? I know they didn't carry a lot, but now it's natta. Later, Gary

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Bill Owens
> #3 > a. Take lots of pictures. That's why we're here. > b. Everyone, get your General Class license and we can all talk on 17 meters! > (I'm trying for mine in the next month) Give me a frequency and time and I'll be there. Bill

Re: France

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Andre Langevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:29:41 -0500 It depends on the location in France... You want nice weather without the Florida humidity? Go to Provence. I have always liked the surroundings around Colmar. Best wishes, Roland

OT stuff was Re: Controversial photo (was Re: Bombing for peace islike f***ing for virginity)

2003-03-19 Thread bran . everseeking
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/19/03 at 04:10 PM, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: |>And now I'll retreat in my cave before anyone calls me a pagan. as a pagan I would think that to be high flattery. Best thing about us pagans is we never knock on your door selling religion or church raffle

RE: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread tom
Just for the record, I've never broken a camera, just lenses and flashes. Mostly flashes, which almost invariably cost $93 to fix. The PZ-1p's took a serious beating, no problem. The MZ-S's never really got tested, the 645n's have survived some dings. tv > -Original Message- > From: coll

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: > Good ol' Chris... What the f*** is that supposed to mean? > All I want to hear about is how our pdml-ers are faring 'over there.' > > Don't tell me to go to CNN for that. Whatever. It's not my call, anyway, so you might as well ask Doug directly. chr

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Blakely
I believe I've responded no less than 5 times to different folks saying, "I was wrong, My bad, My error, etc." concerning my ignorance and misunderstanding of where you were from and I'm getting Goddam tired of it.. Further... I did not write the mail that called the Middle East a toilet, nor did

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Good ol' Chris... All I want to hear about is how our pdml-ers are faring 'over there.' Don't tell me to go to CNN for that. keith Chris Brogden wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: > > > I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of > > OT stuff, for th

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
News, as in "Just the facts Ma'am". is OK by me. I think that first hand accounts of what's going on in the rest of the world would be interesting. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of OT stuff, for the evening, at least, solely for r

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread gfen
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Feroze Kistan wrote: > For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I > for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I > don't think anyone else here would either. Hey, we let Cotty hang around... (why does it seem like a

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: > I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of > OT stuff, for the evening, at least, solely for reports from the > field. No editorial comments at all, please. Reporting only. It's pretty much impossible to provide news reports wit

Re: Controversial photo (was Re: Bombing for peace is like f***ingfor virginity)

2003-03-19 Thread Caveman
Treena wrote: Last time we did anything like that, it was also religious young couples with small children (as well as male and female retirees). I would recommend them to read some of the writings of St. Augustin of Hippo, especially the Letters and Confessions. Then some readings on his life an

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Feroze Kistan
Come on, what do the rest of you say, I think Boz should stay Feroze - Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) > Agree'd > > > From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>Any good bars/pubs in Oxford, btw? :-) LOL. yeah, my house. Free, too! :-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/

Re: France

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Unquestionably one of the loveliest parts of the French countryside...or anyone elses countryside! keith whaley Andre Langevin wrote: > > >On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:57:51 -0500, Clive Evans wrote: > > > >>guess which is better? > > > >That's too easy. Florida, of course! > > > >Later, > >Gary >

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Keith Whaley
I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of OT stuff, for the evening, at least, solely for reports from the field. No editorial comments at all, please. Reporting only. We have Cotty in England, Boris in Israel, and how others who are in the thick of it. Cotty wrote: > [

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Jones
Agree'd From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I > for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I > don't think anyone else here would either. > > Feroze > > Boz wrote > and I must say good-

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Feroze Kistan
For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I don't think anyone else here would either. Feroze Boz wrote and I must say good-bye to this group. It's like being forced to abandon your domicil

It's Just Hardware

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
If (whoever makes it) meets your needs best, that's what you should use. Seems so simple, but the discussions sometimes seem almost religious.

Re: France

2003-03-19 Thread Andre Langevin
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:57:51 -0500, Clive Evans wrote: guess which is better? That's too easy. Florida, of course! Later, Gary It depends on the location in France... You want nice weather without the Florida humidity? Go to Provence. Andre --

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:56:39 -0800 (PST) I was under the impression that Pentax "K" and newer bodies worked with "Stepless" metering? That is, the camera body closes down the aperture to the setting you input. If you set f/8 on the lens, the camera body sets that

Re: France

2003-03-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
That was me and it was joke. My 12 yr old daughter had gone to France, and the little gifts she brought me were things like a "Paris" coffee mug and a necktie with the Eiffel tower, i.e., the standard tacky trinkets. I also got a tie and a mug when she went to Disney world the year after. >>> [EM

RE: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
Or at least his assistants will. :) * Ahhh, but that is the beauty of the LX - at least the ones I own - they can take a beating. A couple of them have fallen quite a distance with no complaints. People on this list can attest to my original 'beat to hell'

RE: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Cotty
>What a way to start the day - okay so it started about three hours ago... > >I just hope that when we finally meet - you will not remove me from that >table (maybe I will have to bring Annsan along). Always gives me goosebumps >to see myself mentioned in a post. And to think that no mention of t

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:27:57 EST Roland. Absolutely. Minolta too, after all they were first. Wasn't the >650 the first Canon? Hm, I don't think so but, you know, it was a long time ago. :-) Memories seems to fade away... :-) When I started with SLR photography in 1988, I

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Camdir
<< I remember when Canon changed from FD to EOS. Many users were not happy about this, since they couldn't use their old equipment any more. They had to have twin systems, or they had to sell all their manual focus gear if they wanted to stay with Canon. The EOS system was a slow starter, a

RE: SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5

2003-03-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5 > > > Peter Smekal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Which would you prefer on an LX? I would prefer the on

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:10:04 +0100, Roland Mabo wrote: >really hate themselves. They need professional help to solve their inner >problems. It's much easier to love others, if we love ourselves. It's within >ourselves everything starts. We can't force peace, it must be found within. >And every

Re: SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5

2003-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Smekal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Which would you prefer on an LX? The 18 would certainly be smaller and lighter and I think 18mm would probably be more useful, more often (15mm is W - I - D - E) but it's very rare and may be even more expemsive. I only have the 15/3.5 but I do love the t

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: collinb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:32:43 -0500 #2 We live in a fallen and sinful world where there can be no peace. Of course it can! But we can't find peace in the world if we don't find the peace in ourselves, that's where everything starts - with ourselves. Peace is no

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:14:55 +0200 I am not sure about Canon since I think I never actually held any Canon SLR camera for more than one minute. A friend of mine, who is a professional photographers, has an EOS 3. For me, it simply feels like a big, bulky

Re: PDML pub (was Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist)

2003-03-19 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.3.19 2:15 PM, "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion > on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner. The pub has > some good air conditioning, so we'll pretty much ignore his satisfied > smile after he fa

Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...

2003-03-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, My email is Russia based, not R*O*mania based. And I live in Israel. I suppose (name) calling my country a toilet can be and is considered an offence. I hope my opinion became more clear to you now... --- Boris Liberman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

RE: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread tom
-Original Message- > From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Don't I owe you a Program Plus body if the Ick D ships by > Sept.? The PP > is probably more reliable than the LX. Doubt it, I've owned 3 Program bodies, and each one developed a wonky meter. But I'll still take

RE: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread tom
I might invest in a strap, but that's a big decision. I'll have to think about it. tv > -Original Message- > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) > > > Can you imagine the expense i

Re: Bombing for peace is like f***ing for virginity

2003-03-19 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 1:19:48 PM, you wrote: > Bob, > Your political opinions, like Burt's, belong somewhere else. I am > disappointed that you chose to lower yourself to that level. well, I can limbo with the best of them sometimes, Doug. But I suppose as a longtime member my views a

Who wants a really long lens

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
Cord camera on 5th Ave. here in Columbus has a Super Multi-Coated Takumar 500/4.5 in case. It's been converted to a Nikon mount! Collin

Re: THE FRENCH

2003-03-19 Thread collinb
#1 I had lunch today with a friend from France. She & hubbie are working toward US citizenship. Even with this she has a coworker who told her to go home. The anger people are expressing toward individuals is totally unnecessary. Some radio personalities, Glenn Beck in particular, are fueling t

Battery Pack Fg & NiMH cells.

2003-03-19 Thread Rodelion
Now... I have read about this before, a few months ago, but my brains lack info. Is it possible to use AA battery pack Fg & NiMH cells together, if so are there any risks, problems or inaccuracies? Any input / personal experiences / technical information is welcome. I know about the 1.2V and 1.

Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread Camdir
<< They cant build the bars fast enough. I am amazed how they are all still packed. Almost every other building is a massive bar or restaurant or pub or nightclub! >> Sounds just like Brighton. If I was an eating out type of guy, I expect I could visit a different restaurant every night fo

Re: Tilt/shift.............Russian lenses

2003-03-19 Thread gfen
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Bill Owens wrote: > I have the 30mm and it's really a fine lens, especially for the money. One > heck of a big piece of glass though. I think you were one of the reasons I decided I wanted one, you're a big fan of yours, and I'm quite satisfied with the Zenitar. I'm still up

Re: Re: Why I stick to Pentax (was: Good-bye Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread akozak
In one point Bojidar is right.namely it is much easier and cheaper to find seconf hand Canon gear-great advantage! Alek Użytkownik Roland Mabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:56:23 +0100 >> >>Nice to see such words! I agree with you in most points

PDML pub (was Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist)

2003-03-19 Thread Caveman
KT Takeshita wrote: In the right moment, I will publish his "perverse" mails sent to me to show what he really is (I never do that in any other situation). Ken, Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner. T

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! All I can say is that you probably made a right choice. I am not sure about Canon since I think I never actually held any Canon SLR camera for more than one minute. But your reasons for abandoning Pentax seem pretty sound. That's exactly the point that seems to be worth repeating over and over

Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)

2003-03-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Rubenstein" Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2) > For anyone who has started photography with the EOS system since 1988, > and that's millions of people it's a total "who gives a shit?" Pentax > users put great importance on things about the Pentax system t

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It's amusing. Sort of like watching life aboard the USS Caine. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why are you here?

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash Seems to me like being a very useful feature. cheers, caveman

SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5

2003-03-19 Thread Peter Smekal
Which would you prefer on an LX? Peter Smekal Uppsala, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0500 You hardly know how the Pentax mount works, what makes you think you know anything about the Nikon one? The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash and can perfectly control (stop down

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