Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread David Mann
On Aug 17, 2006, at 4:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manual focus screen. That's something I'd like for any AF camera. Just a microprism spot in the centre, please. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
I'm going to be putting my digital darkroom together soon and I've decided on everything but the printer at this point. I want a large format ink jet and have been looking at Canon and Epson. Both of the 17 wide $1800 printers have gotten good reviews. I'm leaning toward the Epson since I know a

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
I have the Epson R2400 highly recommend it. I got excellent prints straight out of the box. And the BW prints are stunning. I also have an older PrintFix profiler that I got bundled with my Spyder2 Pro. I've never used it. I only use Epson Ilford paper and their profiles are excellent. Cheers,

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Marco Alpert
I'm not much into guessing games, but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards for this camera, because of the 10-megapixels and... other

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread Keith McGuinness
David Savage wrote: You've got 3 days (4 in some places) to get your Juxtaposition entry in. I have to admit I'm struggling with this one. I'm struggling too, big time! I hereby submit a disclaimer in advance and direct all blame for the quality (or lack of) in my entry (assuming I have

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks, Dave. Most people gush about their Epsons so that would be a safe bet. However, the Canon uses a 12 color system which sounds intriguing. I just wonder how that translates to $ in inks. I think I'm going to try the ColorVision since the custom profiling appeals to me. I'd like to be able

RE: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Hi Brendan, I am in the exactly same situation right now. I am looking at the Epson 4800 and the Canon IPF5000. The 5000 is pretty new so there is no long term information available yet (good source for information is the luminous-landscape forum). What interests me mostly and what I have

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are you looking for a 13 gate or wider? I've got the R2400 and am very happy with it. If I were to get anything at this point, I'd stick with Epson and go for the R4800. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's

2006-08-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Is that Zingerman's Roadhouse? If so, I was there maybe fifteen years ago ... don't recall much about the food, but it was recommended by a couple of friends who lived in South Dakota at the time. I recall them trying to put food out like a NYC deli - didn't quite cut it for a New Yawka, but

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Bengt Falke
. and there is a slot for them in my portable computer... ;o) Shel Belinkoff wrote / skrev: I like 'em. They're small, light, easy to carry, contribute to making the camera smaller and lighter, they're inexpensive, and they're fun to launch across the room. Shel [Original

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:35:27 +0200 schreef Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not much into guessing games, Yeah, right :o) but for those who are, I noticed this post from Aaron earlier today: On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: If you shoot RAW you'll probably want

Re: Testing the K100D and some more K10D hype

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/16 Wed PM 10:45:22 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Testing the K100D and some more K10D hype nononono All that Was of CouRse entirely UNintentIOnal... JostEin - So...Jostein's latest message should be decoded as:

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be compressed with variable bit rates so that the detail goes where it is needed and not where it would be wasted, could image files be saved with variable bit depth? Inky shadows and blue skies could get high compression and low bit

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Thibouille
Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. Yeah but you don't need any PC/Mac nor do you need a any software like Adobe and such. If you lab was good then that was it. William Robb -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille --

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:32:57 +0200 schreef Keith McGuinness [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Savage wrote: You've got 3 days (4 in some places) to get your Juxtaposition entry in. I have to admit I'm struggling with this one. I'm struggling too, big time! I hereby submit a disclaimer in

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
One more thing came to my head about what Aaron could like in K10D. What about in-camera RAW development? ;-) Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Compression, was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:38:20 +0200 schreef Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be compressed with variable bit rates so that the detail goes where it is needed and not where it would be wasted, could image files be saved with

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Bengt Falke
Yes, this is a good idea. Give us a jp4-file format! Anthony Farr wrote / skrev: Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be compressed with variable bit rates so that the detail goes where it is needed and not where it would be wasted, could image files be saved with variable

RE: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
Still? But you've become so mellow of late. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 2:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the

RE: Compression, was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
The compression gets optimized locally, but AFAIK the bit depth stays at 8bpp (24 bits overall) from top to bottom. To me the bit depth is much more important than compression because that's where all the smooth gradations and subtle tonalities come from. IMO the highlights could get away with

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread David Mann
On Aug 17, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: I have to admit I'm struggling with this one. I'm struggling too, big time! One of my recent scans actually fit the bill. This will be my first PUG in... quite a long time! - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: 4 Gig SD card for the DS?

2006-08-17 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Glen. I have a 4gig AGL brand Sd card currently in use in the *ist Ds running the latest firmware. The Ds tells me that this card will hold 373 raw files. The card has been formated in the Ds as well as on the computer via card reader and is working fine. Yesterday I took 178 RAW images

Re: Another PDML Win

2006-08-17 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Well done Paul! Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
The newer Epsons don't seem to clog. My 2200 has never clogged in the five years I've been using it. Paul On Aug 17, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Hi Brendan, I am in the exactly same situation right now. I am looking at the Epson 4800 and the Canon IPF5000. The 5000 is

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
We already have that. It's called shooting tiff or jpeg. Paul On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: One more thing came to my head about what Aaron could like in K10D. What about in-camera RAW development? ;-) Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Tonal gradation in shadows WAS - Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
This should demonstrate why digital photography needs more RD to correct some deficiencies of shadow rendition. The examples are 8 bit for the web of course, so 12 or more bit samples should be somewhat better. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4816986 Regards, Anthony Farr --

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Thibouille
I don't think so. Image quality is important beacsue you will work with it and apply effects. Ifyou looose information: it is lost, period. Think JPEG vs RAW. You can compress RAW of course... 2006/8/17, Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thinking along this line, and considering that music can be

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 17, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The newer Epsons don't seem to clog. My 2200 has never clogged in the five years I've been using it. Clogging is heavily dependent on usage. If you leave the printer for long stretches without printing, it's more likely to clog. If you

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
I already had a look to try and help inspire me. I'm still struggling. :-) Dave On 8/17/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into a nice junxtaposition in febuari, so I'm not complaining :o) For those who are, it's junxtaposition _II_, so there's a whole gallery of inspiration:

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Anthony Farr
My thoughts are less towards lowering the bit depth of featureless areas than they are towards raising the bit depth of darker and/or detail filled areas. I could have made that clearer but chose an example that weighed in the wrong direction :-( Regards, Anthony Farr -Original

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 17.08.2006, at 12:19 , Paul Stenquist wrote: We already have that. It's called shooting tiff or jpeg. Paul But we have very little control of this ;-) Much more can be done for example in Olympus E-1. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: left handed digital PS?

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
8-)) From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 01:42:29 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: left handed digital PS? On 8/17/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/16 Wed PM

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 03:00:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: For those in the know about K10D - Original Message - From: Jim Apilado Subject: Re: For those in the know about K10D That's what digital

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
Raw rules! But in addition to PEF (if they insist on keeping it), please implement compressed DNG properly with full sized embedded JPEG in-camera as an option. Smaller file sizes = faster write times = more shots per card = less time dumping to storage tanks (saves batteries/charge) = also

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 17, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The newer Epsons don't seem to clog. My 2200 has never clogged in the five years I've been using it. Clogging is heavily dependent on usage. If you leave the printer for long stretches without printing, it's more

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote: The simple solution is to continue to use your old camera with your old cards -- you're not being forced to buy a new body, nor are you being forced to discard your old one. Now that's just silly, especially considering what you know about the capabilities of the K10D.

was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Roman
What K10D will or will not be, time shows. If it's as good as *istDL, + 11 AF points then its all good + 10Mp gives more space to crop more and compose less during the shooting. http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060814223110 -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: The last post I can find from Wiggy is 22/06/05. According to my archives he was only active for that month. Some people just lack stamina. What I find hilarious is his comment that criticizing Pentax isn't tolerated. Do we ever do anything *else* here?! Mark I Hate SD

Question for those that print 11x14 and up

2006-08-17 Thread David J Brooks
Hi Gang. I shot a horse show last weekend using the D1, file size is 1.1 meg and pixel size is 2000 x 1312. A customer is asking for a large print of 16x20. I found the upres tutorial in Bruces Frasers book, but am wonder what i should res this file up to to get a decent 11x14 and or

Re: Zoom Lenses

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Binder wrote: I use a Spotmatic F and I have a Tamron 35-135mm zoom lens. I'm interested in getting a different zoom, preferably one that goes up to 200mm and is not a push/pull type. Do you have any suggestions? Used would best as I don't have a lot to spend. I think push/pull zooms

RE: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Printer Recommendations? ... By the way, I do not at all recommend being on the bleeding edge with

RE: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
I remember seeing reports (on luminous-landscape and other boards) that also the newer Epsons (as well as the large format Epsons) clog sometimes even in the middle of a print. My 2000 has never clogged during a print. And on my 2000 the clog problem is not with the head but with the CIS tubing

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Mark Roberts wrote: It's also a point that some people just don't like SD cards. I hate SD cards because they're too small. I don't *want* cards smaller than CF. Me, either. Only something as worthless as a stick of gum should be that easy to lose. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML

Re: Question for those that print 11x14 and up

2006-08-17 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote: A customer is asking for a large print of 16x20. I found the upres tutorial in Bruces Frasers book, but am wonder what i should res this file up to to get a decent 11x14 and or 16x20. Any help here. My current lab only goes to 11x14. What's the native

Re: Zoom Lenses

2006-08-17 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/16/06, Mark Binder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a Spotmatic F and I have a Tamron 35-135mm zoom lens. I'm interested in getting a different zoom, preferably one that goes up to 200mm and is not a push/pull type. Do you have any suggestions? Used would best as I don't have a lot to

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
In keeping with my severe resolution hang-up, I've noted that the R1800 advertises having the smallest ink droplets in the industry, 1.5 picoliters. The R2400, 3.5 picoliters, but produces superior BW prints. This is my total offering on the subject. Jack --- Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K100D antishake test #2

2006-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: K100D antishake test #2 On Aug 16, 2006, at 19:28, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/antishake/antishake_2/index.html The bummer about the ones with the really small aperture is that you can see

Re: K100D antishake test #2

2006-08-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 16, 2006, at 19:28, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/antishake/antishake_2/index.html The bummer about the ones with the really small aperture is that you can see dust on the sensor (OK, so it's really dust on the AA filter, but still)! -Charles --

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: For those in the know about K10D Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. Yeah but you don't need any PC/Mac nor do you need a any software like Adobe and such. If you lab was good then that was it. You wouldn't

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Printer Recommendations? I'm going to be putting my digital darkroom together soon and I've decided on everything but the printer at this point. I want a large format ink jet and have been looking at Canon and Epson. Both of the

RE: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
That's why the 1800 has one of the highest clogging rates of any of the latest Epson printers! The R2400 is worth every penny, minimal issues, better image quality :) - More money :( You often get what you pay for! Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 7:16 AM -0600 8/17/06, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: For those in the know about K10D Thik of all the money we don't spend on film.. Yeah but you don't need any PC/Mac nor do you need a any software like Adobe and such. If you lab

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
That's because everyone wants quality for nothing, Bill! Related: bad news for those who enjoyed the 12 cent prints from photolab.ca, as TCN (who were providing the service) are shutting down operations. -Aaron -Original Message- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: For

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MPbody

2006-08-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: I've never understood this, so maybe somebody could enlighten me. What makes people think they have to crop the image to fit the paper? To my mind it's a brain-upside-down way of thinking, but I've heard and read it so often that perhaps it's me that's got something wrong.

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread gibikote
same here Sridhar - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: PUG reminder I already had a look to try and help inspire me. I'm still struggling. :-) Dave On 8/17/06,

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:35:26 +0200 schreef Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 7:16 AM -0600 8/17/06, William Robb wrote: You wouldn't believe how much bitching and complaining about photolabs we used to get on list before the istD hit the market. A decent lab is hard to find. I wouldn't

Re: PUG reminder

2006-08-17 Thread DagT
I just decided that I could blame it on my limited English vocabulary .-) DagT Fra: gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] same here Sridhar - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:19 PM

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you saw what I get offlist, you'd understand. William Robb Listen you big lard! I apologized for that already... what more can I do? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Another PDML Win

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Humph! Only to be expected of you, Paul. Twas luck, I would give you a pat on the back. But to praise you because you do what you do expertly, expertly? Well, if needs be, jumping up an down excitedly. YOU WON! YOU WON, PAUL! -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Well, anyone who has useless CF cards can send them to me. Only my camera, my PDA, and my laptop use the things but I could probably put one or two 0.5 to 1.0gb cards to use. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
So, you are a reactionary Luddite just like me? Next year the manufactures will be going to the mini-SD cards. I too feel that there is a point when things become too small for normal handling, as well as too large. I do have a SD card in the PDA, but I choose to leave it in and treat it as a

RE: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
Lazy... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:22:40 +0300 compose less

Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I've never understood this, so maybe somebody could enlighten me. What makes people think they have to crop the image to fit the paper? To my mind it's a brain-upside-down way of thinking, but I've heard and read it so often that perhaps it's me

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Well, it is called profit taking. The way around it is to sit on your wallet for a few months. Of course with digital you probably will never get to buy anything new if you do that grin. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
That is about what I live off of per month SIGH!. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Digital Image Studio wrote: I only paid AU$700 for my 2GB CF -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: well, call me old-fashioned, but I think it should be a 'B' setting, LX-style off-the-sensor metering, and no plastic. You're old-fashioned. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: I sold my first photograph!

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Steve Sharpe, discombobulated, unleashed: It was this one - http://earth.delith.com/malin.html Does this make me a pro, now? :^) Nice cliche. Only kidding ;-) Lovely shot and well done. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Yes, that indeed is the best thing about digital for serious photographers. Of course there were good labs around if you did enough volume to be able to use them, they tended to have hefty surcharges on small orders. Snapshot mini-labs were not the place to get quality work done. I have not

Re: Another PDML Win

2006-08-17 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Tom. I really appreciate the jumping up and down excitedly. Paul -- Original message -- From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humph! Only to be expected of you, Paul. Twas luck, I would give you a pat on the back. But to praise you because you do what you do

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Then you have never used even a merely decent lab. But I will agree it was getting harder to find a decent lab outside of very large cities in the decade or so prior to the event of digital. The mini-labs were putting them out of business. You have to realize that mass marketers do not run

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: So, you are a reactionary Luddite just like me? Next year the manufactures will be going to the mini-SD cards. I too feel that there is a point when things become too small for normal handling, as well as too large. I do have a SD card in the PDA, but I choose to leave it in

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: There's a recent thread over at the photodotnet Pentax forum that mentions the PDML in a rather, well, unforgiving light. It made me laugh out loud. Enjoy: http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Hfddtag= Nice one Dave and Paul

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
Would you two please get a room. Dave On 8/17/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you saw what I get offlist, you'd understand. William Robb Listen you big lard! I apologized for that already... what more can I do? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Faces

2006-08-17 Thread Roman
Just few faces fit into my sense of color today. A vagabond musician with clarinet and one of his listeners from the crowd. http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/460x690-IMGP6500.jpg ^^^one of a crowd http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060817150419 ^^^Just follow your ears when you hear the music, you

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Richard Day wrote: Raw rules! But in addition to PEF (if they insist on keeping it), please implement compressed DNG properly with full sized embedded JPEG in-camera as an option. PEF, of course, already includes a full sized embedded JPEG

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
Room for what? Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread graywolf
Sounds like you played with a digital camera once, Scott. By the way, my Oly requires about that much work after a battery change. Olympus fixed that problem free under warranty (the capacitive devices that is supposed to maintain power during a battery change were defective), but I bought

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:57 AM, graywolf wrote: I have not checked but I suspect that many of those high volume quality people labs are still doing business as most pro photographers still make their money by shooting, not by sitting in front of a computer In Toronto and the surrounding

Re: was Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread John Francis
Nobody is in any doubt that it will be at least as good as the K100D, which is already a step up from the DL. Most of the angst comes from *ist-D shooters like myself - people for whom all the later variants (DS, DL, DS2, DL2, K100D, K110D) have too many drawbacks to be considered as *ist-D

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
I don't even want to guess :-) Dave On 8/18/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Room for what? Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To:

Aurora Watch

2006-08-17 Thread Tom C
From: SpaceWeather.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SpaceWeather.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Aurora Watch Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:26:53 -0500 Space Weather News for August 17, 2006 http://spaceweather.com AURORA WATCH: An explosion on the sun yesterday (Aug. 16) hurled a coronal mass ejection

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 16/8/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: There's a recent thread over at the photodotnet Pentax forum that mentions the PDML in a rather, well, unforgiving light. It made me laugh out loud. Enjoy: http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Hfddtag= Nice one

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
Indeed, a correctly implemented DNG with a full size hi-res embedded JPEG would be best. I use iView for archiving and it also uses the embedded full size JPEG within DNG which, if you colour profile and correct in ACR within browser and save as DNG, rather than the stand alone converter, that

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
I'm looking for something at 17 wide. I don't really see myself doing anything larger than 16 x 20 (and even at that, rarely). Anything bigger and I'll go to a lab. Yes, the 4800 is talked up so much I just can't ignore it. -B --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you looking for

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:57 AM, graywolf wrote: I have not checked but I suspect that many of those high volume quality people labs are still doing business as most pro photographers still make their money by shooting, not by sitting in front of a computer In Toronto

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Come on folks - it's not that hard. What makes the 67 superior to almost ANY digital camera - except for resolution? The K10D closes this gap. And - yes - I believe I did guess Aarons secret. Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248

RE: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
Antti-Pekka, Thanks for the info! I hadn't heard that the Epson's tended to clog. That's interesting. I too read that the Canon doesn't require a swap-out to do the matte finish. I can't imagine going through the ink sets in 6 months but who knows? Perhaps searching around for some preventative

Re: For those in the know about K10D

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 12:04 PM -0400 8/17/06, graywolf wrote: Then you have never used even a merely decent lab. You are probably right. But I will agree it was getting harder to find a decent lab outside of very large cities in the decade or so prior to the event of digital. The mini-labs were putting them out

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/8/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice one Dave and Paul - I even get an honourable mention! Well, a *mention*, at least. ;-) Are you calling me *dis*honourable, pta'ak?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml

2006-08-17 Thread mike wilson
Honourable From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 04:14:58 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: photo dot net thread mentioning the pdml On 16/8/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: There's a recent thread over at the photodotnet Pentax forum

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
Good point, Aaron. That's one of the reasons that the Canon isn't my top choice. I don't want to be a guinea pig. Still, I supppose it's possible that out of the box Canon may hit a home run. Who knows? Years and years ago I gave my Dad my old BJ series bubble jet (circa 1992) and it still prints

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Maas
Jens, If it was merely resolution, why the heck would Aaron be looking at the K10D instead of a higher-resolution body from Nikon or Canon (Or a Hasselblad or other MF body with a digiback). Aaron specifically said it was something _no_ other DSLR offered yet. And between the D2x, 5D, 1Ds

Kodachrome processing: Ambiguous press release

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Kodak is shutting down some or all of its Kodachrome processing capability in Switzerland, the only place in Europe where it's currently being done. Here's the catch: The headline says Kodak announces end dates for Kodachrome motion picture film processing. Note MOTION PICTURE FILM PROCESSING.

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Brendan MacRae
Hum, not sure that smaller droplets always translate to print detail. The paper is a big variable here. However, that's interesting, too. The 2400 has a huge following, I know, but it's too small for what I want to do. -Brendan --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In keeping with my severe

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
I've had Epson Photo printers since 1997. Currently have three. I've printed hundreds of prints from 4X6 to 13X19. I had a printer sit for months without printing. I only use Epson inks. I normally run the cartridges till a color shows up missing. My printers are always turned off at the

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread David Savage
Dunno. I've never shot medium format. 4x5 is the best I've used. Dave On 8/18/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on folks - it's not that hard. What makes the 67 superior to almost ANY digital camera - except for resolution? The K10D closes this gap. And - yes - I believe I did

RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Day
A By big bright viewfinder! Maybe the K10D has a x3 magnifier in the eyepiece that allows you to see the whole area without cropping, just fantastic for accurate MF and macro work. Oh, and great for old fogies like me who's eyesight is failing! Richard -Original Message- From:

Re: Printer Recommendations?

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: I've had Epson Photo printers since 1997. Currently have three. I've printed hundreds of prints from 4X6 to 13X19. I had a printer sit for months without printing. I only use Epson inks. I normally run the cartridges till a color shows up missing. My printers are always

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-17 Thread Patrick Genovese
How about true 16 bit output ? On 8/17/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens, If it was merely resolution, why the heck would Aaron be looking at the K10D instead of a higher-resolution body from Nikon or Canon (Or a Hasselblad or other MF body with a digiback). Aaron specifically

The third best selling DSLR in Japan

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital-camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole lot of Canons and Nikons. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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