Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It's not difficult to ship, however payments are more difficult, especially if the seller prefers not to take payment through Paypal. J and K Messervy wrote: Is there something about the postal system in the US that makes it particularly difficult to post things overseas? I ask because I am

Exposure with Polarizer

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Howdy, folks, I'm still in the process of culling and post processing the nearly 1,000 shots I took at the Petit le Mans last weekend. I'm noticing something that seems strange to me, though, in those shots. As (sort of) implied in the Stuck Filter thread, I had a polarizer on my 400/5.6 all

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread J and K Messervy
I guess the US market is big enough. It's still frustrating though. - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Ebay frustration It's not difficult to ship, however payments

Re: Exposure with Polarizer

2006-10-08 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/8/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: always. But what I'm seeing in the shots is that all of the ones shot with the polarizer, and the 400/5.6, are much darker than the ones shot with the other lenses /sans/ polarizer. So it's got me wondering if the difference is the polarizer

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread John Celio
listed on Ebay in the US will only ship to the US. It is extremely frustrating. Is it laziness on the part of the lister? Does the rest of the world not exist? Is there some kind of difficulty involved? A lot of times if you just ask the seller, they'll come up with some sort of deal to

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/10/06, J and K Messervy, discombobulated, unleashed: Is there something about the postal system in the US that makes it particularly difficult to post things overseas? I ask because I am searching for Pentax medium format systems and most of the ones I find listed on Ebay in the US will

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread J and K Messervy
Thanks mate. I have asked quite a few if they'll ship to Aus, one responded by asking ME how much that would cost. The problem with Ebay.au is that it's a pretty small market. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 08,

Re: Exposure with Polarizer

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin
Mat Maessen wrote: Is the polarizer a linear or circular polarizer? If it's a linear polarizer, it's possible that it could be throwing off the metering in the camera. I just invested in a couple of circular polarizers to replace the linear polarizers I was using before I got my *istDS2. I

k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread David Bliss
Hi all, I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last few weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. I'm a long time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first DSLR. I was minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced...

FS ist-D + grip, Metz 40MZ2, Z1(not p)

2006-10-08 Thread Thibouille
I'm selling a couple items obviously 'cos of K10D purchase. * Metz 40MZ2 + SCA3702 + SCA 372 Supports TTL / Auto / Manual with AF bodies (3702) and MF bodies (372) including LX/SuperA. Supports Strobo, partial power, motorized zoom head.

Re: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Francis, On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:56:39 -0700, Francis wrote: Very cool! Thanks! I think it could be improved by bringing the blue down a bit in curves and turning up the saturation a tad. That is my default fix-all adjustment for photos taken in the middle of the day. Hmm, I already took

Re: Geso: Sandhill crane, Hornet, Turtle, Boat, Landscape and (Shudder) Cat photos

2006-10-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Francis, On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:35:47 -0700, Francis wrote: The bird is a Sand Hill Crane, the first one of these rather impressive birds I've ever seen. It was amazingly tame and I spent most of the day following it around on my hands and knees taking photos and watching it go about its

Re: Photokina visit (was: Re: K10 samples)

2006-10-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Dario, On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 21:41:50 +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: I was at Pentax booth to meet you the day and time planned (sep. 28 at 14:00), for about 45 minutes, but couldn't find you. Ah, there is the mixup then, I was there on Wednesday the 27th, at the Pentax booth a few times,

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Thibouille
The way you will be able to use K/M lenses on K10D will be the same as on my ist-D/DS. Either DOF or Green button will close the diaphragm, take the reading and open it again. It is in fact VERY quick and problematic only for particuliar shooting mode. Concerning AF sensors, it has always been

PTTL flash metering

2006-10-08 Thread Thibouille
I often questioned myself about the metering used with PTTL. I know it uses the same system as without flash (wihch is why there is a preflash) but is it influenced by the choice between spot/CW/Matrix ? Can I shoot spot with flash? With TTL flash, Pentax has always used CW AFAIK so I'm

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I always ship overseas. It's simple enough. Probably around $60 to ship an MF camera to Australia via airmail and with insurance. However, the buyer sometimes have to pay substantial customs fees, and some react angrily. I think that has caused some sellers wto be wary of international

Re: OT: Who needs mega pixels?

2006-10-08 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:20:41 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry Pellechia wrote: My point is that a decades ago people were saying digital cameras would never replace film. I do not think most people feel this way today. Read this story about the first digital image

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
James, Posting items internationally from the US is not difficult. Paying can be more of a problem (scams), and issues are much more difficult to resolve because of the distance. Poor understanding of import duties or attempts to avoid them are problematic as well (No, I won't insure it for $600

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Nothing overly awesome, just a shot of last night's big harvest moon. http://www.neovenator.com/special/2006_harvest_moon.html John, it's a nice shot, but, like every other similar photo of the moon, it is boring. How many hundreds of these shots of the full moon have we seen? While such a

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
Welcome onboard David. I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses before I tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, you will get used to it. In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the light. If lighting changes you

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No, an extra bonus on a $1000 top line camera would be A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this is Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong [slapping myself happily over forehead]. The glass is half empty, not half full. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C.

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Why settle for shit for no reason? Glass is still definitely half empty. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? I

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Shel, It's fine to wish for more, but sometimes it's about trying. I think it's great that John tried something. I wish I had done so last night. Until you try, get results, and seek feedback, you can't make the next step. I think there's a good lession in this for those of us sitting on the

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/8/2006 4:33:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always ship overseas. It's simple enough. Probably around $60 to ship an MF camera to Australia via airmail and with insurance. However, the buyer sometimes have to pay substantial customs fees, and some

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
No the glass is twice as big as it has to be... Tim Øsleby wrote: I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong [slapping myself happily over forehead]. The glass is half empty, not half full. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From:

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's the same old song from JCO every time the subject comes up. I think we all know his view on this by now. I don't recall, but does he have a Pentax DSLR? I will say this, however, it may be easier for some to adjust to the green button approach than others. For example, having come from

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
In practice, the 'Green Button'/AE-lock hack on the DSLR's is simple and easy to use. You always set aperture on the lens for non-A lenses, and either hit the AE-Lock (Green Button on D/K10D) and it immediately sets an appropriate shutter speed or you use the DoF preview to get a metering

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bob, I don't disagree at all. In fact, had I some long glass I'd probably take the same pic. The _real_ purpose of my post was to encourage those who want to take such shots to try for more, and step out of the box in which everyone is making the same photo. Shel [Original Message] From:

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
Because it ain't shit. The green button hack is one of the reasons I bought the K100D to replace my D50. Some metering is better than no metering. And that's the choice we're faced with. The Aperture Simulator is dead. Deal With It. Those of us who shoot with K glass and the DSLR's are doing

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? I know that now. From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. JCO. Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been solved better, I agree on that. But I prefer looking

Re: PESO - Something Old

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/25/2006 10:20:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A bit of a departure for me. This was taken in San Francisco at a memorial for a battleship. There was a piece of the ship hull as part of the memorial and this item was bolted to it. Pentax *istD, DA

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Adam Maas wrote: In practice, the 'Green Button'/AE-lock hack on the DSLR's is simple and easy to use. You always set aperture on the lens for non-A lenses, and either hit the AE-Lock (Green Button on D/K10D) and it immediately sets an appropriate shutter speed or you use the DoF preview to

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I know that now. From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. JCO. Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been solved better, I agree on that. But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of beating this dead horse. I don't believe irritation

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread John Celio
It's fine to wish for more, but sometimes it's about trying. I think it's great that John tried something. I wish I had done so last night. Until you try, get results, and seek feedback, you can't make the next step. I think there's a good lession in this for those of us sitting on the

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? In practice, the 'Green Button'/AE-lock hack on the DSLR's is simple and easy to use. You always set aperture on the lens for non-A lenses, and either hit the AE-Lock (Green Button on D/K10D) and it

Re: PESO: Yosemite, halfdome plus reflection

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2006 11:25:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Came across this one while selecting some stuff for large format prints today, it is a scan from a 67 slide taken at Yosemite. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=182 A split ND filter was used

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Doug Franklin
John Celio wrote: Speaking of teleconverters, does anyone know what, exactly, the advantage would be in using the longer telecons (the ones made for telephoto lenses only) instead of the more compact ones (made for use with any lens)? My understanding is that they're better matched

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
But the DSLR are NOT manual bodies...DUH. With the on board CPUs the PK/PKM lens Implementation would be child's play. Why compare a manual body to DSLR? The DSLR should be compared to LX/KX Which had these features 25-30 YEARS ago! jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO - The Line Forms to the Right

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/7/2006 8:49:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I visit Zarri's at least once a week for a lunch sandwich, or to sometimes pick up a favorite olive oil or some pasta. http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/lineformstoright.html This was one of the first

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2006 1:44:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Bullshit. There is nothing to prevent its implementation In the future, either by Pentax or other camera makers Using the PK mount. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss

Re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-08 Thread graywolf
Ha, I can understand your frustration. Even here in the US you get these Pick Up Only items, ebay ought not to allow them grin. High shipping rates, although small items can be sent anywhere in the world in a Global Express Envelope for as littl as $5; lack of knowledge about customs; payment

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? In practice, the 'Green Button'/AE-lock hack on the DSLR's is simple and easy to use. You always set aperture on the lens for non-A lenses, and either hit the AE-Lock (Green

Re: Halloween Moon High-jinks

2006-10-08 Thread graywolf
Manipulating your photos, huh? You are fired. GRIN -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jack Davis wrote: As a lark, I'm putting up a contrived image that kind of suits this Halloween

Re: Exposure with Polarizer

2006-10-08 Thread George Sinos
Doug - are they truly darker or are the colors more saturated? The increased saturation from the polarizer could make them seem darker. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net On 10/8/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, folks, I'm still in the process of culling and post

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
P. J. Alling wrote: Adam Maas wrote: In practice, the 'Green Button'/AE-lock hack on the DSLR's is simple and easy to use. You always set aperture on the lens for non-A lenses, and either hit the AE-Lock (Green Button on D/K10D) and it immediately sets an appropriate shutter speed or you

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
Because I shoot DSLR's and manual bodies. Can't compare to what I don't use. And other than the Manual and Aperture priority bodies, K/M lenses do not have full function on other bodies (No Shutter Priority or Program, no Matrix Metering). -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: But the DSLR are NOT

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Look you can apologize all you want for pentax But I have over two dozen world class NICE manual focus Pentax PK/PKM lenses and I DON’T BUY what I don’t Want. I wanted K/KM support in the new top line Body, if you don’t, that doesn’t matter to me One Iota. ALL of the later Pentax MF lenses are

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
No, there is nothing to prevent it being re-implemented. But the Camera makers in the position to do so (Nikon and Pentax, the only two of major makers stillusing their MF mount) have written it off on consumer and semi-pro bodies a number of years ago. This happened in the film era, we've

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Marnie. A timeless feeling was what I was going for. It is something with the cormorants. They looks like it has been there forever, coming directly out of the nuclear soup zillion years ago. That’s why I made it so orange, lava like feeling. You are right. The second is nearly

Re: Halloween Moon High-jinks

2006-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
I used to manipulate other folk's photos, but I don't do that any more. Never mind why. ;-) IMO, it's OK if you divulge your shenanigans. questioning grin Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manipulating your photos, huh? You are fired. GRIN -- graywolf

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread George Sinos
Shel - I think we fundamentally agree on the impact of the subject, but having tried to get a similar shot (and failed) I have to compiment John's technical skills. It seems I've never had the right combination of location, weather and available time to get a good clean shot. See you later, gs

Re: PESO - Runoff

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/2/2006 2:22:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/1000 sec @ f/9.5 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3378a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce === Doesn't do a lot for me, Bruce. Then I've never been fond of

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread William Robb
John, why don't you get off this particular pot of shite. You aren't saying anything new, nor anything we haven't read from you on at least a dozen other occassions. The best information that anyone onlist has been able to get is that the aperture simulator coupling is a gone, never to return.

Re: Flat or punchy

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2006 9:38:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Care to comment? -- Best regards, Bruce Depends on the picture, for me. And I know my monitor is not as good as some, although I try to calibrate it about every 6 months or sooner. Probably need

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
Pushing 2 buttons instead of one is slowing down? I also shoot with K/M lenses, don't own as many as you, but 2 of my 3 main lenses are K/M (Kiron 28/2, SMC-M 50/2, SMC-A 70-210) and I shoot with a couple of screwmount lenses too. You don't shoot with a Pentax DSLR, so you don't know how

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Program mode is for idiots. AE with aperture selected By photographer is another matter altoghter. I have Never used Program mode in my life and never will. Maxrix metering really has nothing to do will PK/PKM Vs later lenses, just another screwjob by pentax... jco -Original Message-

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/7/2006 10:06:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing overly awesome, just a shot of last night's big harvest moon. http://www.neovenator.com/special/2006_harvest_moon.html Technical mumbojumbo: *istD ISO 200 K500mm f4.5, probably somewhere in the

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't say that - just asked if you had one and therefore if you'd used one. It was a question, not an accusation or a judgement. As long as we are on this subject, how about cleaning up your language. There's no need to be rude or abusive or use low language. Look, you're entitled to your

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax wrote it off in the Semi Pro bodies only with the introduction of the *ist and *ist-D. This is very recent, in fact they still supported it on what is a current model MZ/ZX-M, though admittedly probably no longer in full production, it is still considered a current model.

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's what I said Shel [Original Message] From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we fundamentally agree on the impact of the subject, but having tried to get a similar shot (and failed) I have to compiment John's technical skills. On 10/8/06, Shel Belinkoff

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You are missing my point. Those film bodies that didn’t Support PK/PKM were cheap models for those who didn’t want The feature, and pentax always offered higher levels models the Entire time that did. With the DSLRs none of them support It. There should be at least ONE model at all times that Does

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Screw YOU. My opinions are just a valid of yours. If you don't have a damn then that's your thing But I have the right to express my opinion. Pentax needs to improve, not get worse. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent:

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Oh screw YOU. I am not here to flog ebay. I am here to Discuss pentax like everyone else and I don't know Why you think its wrong for me to disagree with pentax Designs if I don't like them and I don't like the DSLR ignorance of PK/PKM aperture settings one bit. You can settle for REGRESSION, I

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Pushing 2 buttons instead of one is slowing down? I also shoot with K/M lenses, don't own as many as you, but 2 of my 3 main lenses are K/M (Kiron 28/2, SMC-M 50/2, SMC-A 70-210) and I shoot with a

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/7/2006 3:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I made this pic last year about this time. This morning I revisited the photo and saw something more, different in it. So, here's the revised edition. http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/fallenleaf2.html

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Don’t be absure. I know what stop down one shot manual metering is. Spotmatic had that since 1964. ( Little easier on DSLR as it turns The shutter dial for you). I don’t need to use the Pentax DSLR w K/KM to know what it Is. Its not the same as OPEN APERTURE AUTOMATIC EXPOSURE (Aperture

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread George Sinos
JCO - I guessing that your frustration is the basis for the strong idiots statement. Frankly, I don't see a lot of difference between program, Av, and Tv. I see it as a choose the type of convenience that works for you. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net On 10/8/06, J. C. O'Connell

RE: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-08 Thread Jens Bladt
No, the 6x7 is closer to nearly square, isn't it? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af J and K Messervy Sendt: 4. oktober 2006 01:46 Til:

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-08 Thread Jens Bladt
I like it :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Tim Øsleby Sendt: 8. oktober 2006 18:35 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: PESO - Another

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I shoot a D and a Ds, and yes I have no real problem in normal shooting using the green button/AE-L kludge with my K/M lenses. However I've also been shooting weddings lately, and one of my favorite lenses for that is the Vivitar S1 35-85 f2.8, wonderful bokeh, and fast and available at a

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread George Sinos
JCO - I think I finally get what you're saying. It's the open aperature meetering. I guess coming from the old screw-mount, stop-down meeting paradigm, even though I've had a couple of more recent auto-bodies, the open-aperture part never registered in my mind. See you later, gs

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Another problem with the DSLRs is with PK/PKM Variable aperture zooms you HAVE TO RE-METER Everytime you zoom the lens. THAT SUCKS And would not be necessary with full PK/PKM AE Support. DUH... JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J.

Re: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Juan Buhler
I know it is a dead horse, but I think it was killed in the wrong way. The mechanical coupler is gone for good, and there's no reason for Pentax to reimplement it. But a better solution could be achieved with software. I'd like to have, besides the green button behavior in M mode, a similar

Re: PESO -- With Further Egret.

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 12:09:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's interesting when you can take photos of birds from above them... http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_withfurtheregret.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 800 @ 1/1000sec (Av) (-1.0EV)

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
I'm not going to disagree with you on that, with the caveat that this applies when the lighting is inconsistent or changing, otherwise you generally don't need to meter (Weddings are an exception to that since you are balancing such an extreme contrast range due to clothing colour). -Adam

Re: Halloween Moon High-jinks

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/7/2006 7:18:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a lark, I'm putting up a contrived image that kind of suits this Halloween month. In my hauntings of a nearby State Wildlife Area, I happened to stumble upon this Vulture gaping scene. Probably a year or

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
Note the last body introduced with an aperture simulator was the MZ-S. The MZ-M is an older body remaining in either hsort-run production or stocks. It was introduced almost 10 years ago. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Pentax wrote it off in the Semi Pro bodies only with the introduction of the

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No program mode is bad because you are not controlling DOF like you are by choosing the aperture setting. BIG KEY DIFFERENCE. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:05 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2

2006-10-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Different crop, some local contrast adjustment, change in tonality, a little brighter in some areas, maybe even a different orientation, changed the color in about 12 pixels - don't recall if it was posted to the list with a horizontal or vertical orientation, although both are in my files. Shel

Re: Still in search of that telephoto zoom

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/22/2006 10:28:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking that you bought an A 70-210 constant f4 aperture. The F 70-210 is AF and a variable aperture (slower) also meaning it could be a bit smaller and lighter. -- Best regards, Bruce =

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
Somebodies never heard of HyperProgram or shiftable programs. Hint, with HyperProgram and Shiftable programs, you have this control in Program mode. And DoF isn't everything (Tv exists for a very good reason) sometimes it's not what you want to control. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: No

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Adam Maas
That would be a nice addition, and I agree it would be fairly simple to implement. -Adam Juan Buhler wrote: I know it is a dead horse, but I think it was killed in the wrong way. The mechanical coupler is gone for good, and there's no reason for Pentax to reimplement it. But a better

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2

2006-10-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/8/2006 10:33:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different crop, some local contrast adjustment, change in tonality, a little brighter in some areas, maybe even a different orientation, changed the color in about 12 pixels - don't recall if it was posted

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Program mode is for idiots. Bravo! Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

GESO - Breaking Waves

2006-10-08 Thread Jens Bladt
I have discovered, that photographinig the sea is much more difficult than I thought :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594316648589/ Sorry 'bout the blue cast, though ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- -- No virus

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Its not only open aperture meter, its CONTINOUS Autoexposure on the fly without the need to keep re-metering Everytime you change the aperture setting or the Lighting changes... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sinos Sent:

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I know what hyperprogram is but if you have to Shift to the aperture you want then you might As well use aperture preferred and get right to The point. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:24 PM

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] John, why don't you get off this particular pot of shite. Oh no! It is entertaining. The best information that anyone onlist has been able to get is that the aperture simulator coupling is a gone, never to return. I'm

RE: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Its impossible to achive in software because there Is no way for the camera to know what aperture setting Is other than to stop down which is one shot, not continous AE. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: Sunday, October

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
David? David? Still there ;-) I have already welcomed you once. But as this thread turned out I think it is appropriate to welcome you to this world of lunatics one more time. It is a soap opera, with live characters, and it is free. As you can see, asking a simple question here can be a rather

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2

2006-10-08 Thread Jens Bladt
Great shot, Shel. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 7. oktober 2006 12:15 Til: PDML Emne: PESO - Fallen Leaf #2 I made

Re: Halloween Moon High-jinks

2006-10-08 Thread Jack Davis
That's not my fault. wise grin Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/7/2006 7:18:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a lark, I'm putting up a contrived image that kind of suits this Halloween month. In my hauntings of a nearby State Wildlife Area, I

Re: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] The mechanical coupler is gone for good, and there's no reason for Pentax to reimplement it. We don't know that for a fact. Pentax have patented a new lens mount, KAF3 that support everything. It could be marketed in a product

Re: RE: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread Juan Buhler
Wrong. The camera has metered closing down when you pressed the button, and can meter at open aperture at all times. All the software has to do is add the relative change of exposure to the one it has stored. j On 10/8/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its impossible to achive in

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread John Forbes
Don't apologise to JC O'Connell. He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six months or so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for very old lenses. After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: Gimme a friggin break with your you don?t own a

RE: RE: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I didn't read you message fully, yes you could Compensate for changes in lighting but in order To compensate for changes is aperture setting You would need to re-stop-down meter over and over. Re-Implementing the PK/PKM aperture sensing solves everything And fully open aperture to boot. Its dirt

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-08 Thread George Sinos
I see it more as different ways to get to the same place - Two different ways to work. Different people think and work different ways. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net On 10/8/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No program mode is bad because you are not controlling DOF

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ironically, just a couple of days ago my stock house sold a shot of the moon that took me about 5 minutes to execute. Ordinary pictures sell. However, I agree that some foreground elements can make such a shot more interesting. That usually works best as a composite, as illustrated by

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