The bad new is that the $800 Canon Power Shot G1 Mark II was given the
highest score any camera ever received from CR.
The good news is that same article on Point-and-Shoot cameras lists
There other standouts:
The Panasonic LumC-LF1 ($350)
The Olymous Stylus 1 ($650)
AND
The Pentax MX-1, $250, a
In the November 2013 Issue, Consumer Reports covers 550 items
described as Best Products of the Year. FWIW, there are 14 DSLRs,
including 2 from Penjtax, the K-30 and the K-5. All the others are
from C***N or N***N
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That's not off topic, that's perfectly on topic. The important question
is did Condemner Reports like them or not? I can't remember the last
time that I read a CR that I agreed with on any high tech product.
On 10/8/2013 4:01 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
In the November 2013 Issue, Consumer
. The important question is
did Condemner Reports like them or not? I can't remember the last time that
I read a CR that I agreed with on any high tech product.
On 10/8/2013 4:01 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
In the November 2013 Issue, Consumer Reports covers 550 items
described as Best
I guess I still don't agree with consumer reports.
On 10/8/2013 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Well, they placed the K-5 and the K-30 among The Best 550 Products of
the Year. That is pretty good. 14 DSLRs made the list; the K-5 and
K-30 were 13th and 12th, edging out the Nikon D5100
Dan,
You don't have to abbreviate camera names like that...They are
already stars in their own mind!
John Graves
On 10/8/2013 4:01 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
In the November 2013 Issue, Consumer Reports covers 550 items
described as Best Products of the Year. FWIW, there are 14
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/12/index.htm
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On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:44 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
CR is not for the enthusiast.
Of anything.
Back when I read the odd high end stereo mag like Stereophile or Absolute
Sound (Are either of those still around? I don't know...) they decried CR
stereo ratings: This Naim
, 2012 1:17 AM
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On 2012-10-01 20:44, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 listeners couldn't tell the
difference...
Odds are that's 100% truth.
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From: J.C. O'Connell
But if 2 out of 10 could consistently hear a difference, then there was a
difference.
Did it say 2 out of 10 could *consistently* hear a difference? Could the
two of them always hear a consistent difference? Was the difference
between the two of them consistent?
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But if 2 out of 10 could consistently hear a difference, then there was a
difference.
Did it say 2 out of 10 could
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment. They always seem to be missing the point.
Judging cameras and lenses by the same criteria you use for washers and
bicycles is at best silly, yet that's much of what they do. Still it's
nice to see
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.
Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles
:
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.
Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 01:30:51PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.
Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn
On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.
Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 12:50:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:
On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.
Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern
://www.photolightimages.com/
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P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
For just about forever, I've
,
frank
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The November 2012 issue
Considering the nadaring they tried to do on the Suzuki Samurai, I am not
inclined to trust anything that CR says.
On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year. Among the listed items are 12
on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote
The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year. Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!
that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales
i'm with the rest
: OT: Consumer Reports
on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote
The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year. Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!
that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales
i'm
Jack Davis wrote:
I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive.
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula.
That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss poor rating.
It was about 30 years ago, so my recollections are surely imperfect,
but I'm pretty sure
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Jack Davis wrote:
I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive.
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula.
That might, however
On 2012-10-01 20:44, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 listeners couldn't tell the
difference...
Odds are that's 100% truth.
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I was looking at the Consumer Reports Buying Guide for 2011 for a
purpose unrelated to photography. I looked at the digital camera
ratings, just for fun. The K-7 is the fifth rated SLR, about equal
with the D300S, which costs almost twice as much. The K-x was one of
three SLRs rated as a CR
wrote:
I was looking at the Consumer Reports Buying Guide for 2011 for a
purpose unrelated to photography. I looked at the digital camera
ratings, just for fun. The K-7 is the fifth rated SLR, about equal
with the D300S, which costs almost twice as much. The K-x was one of
three SLRs rated as a CR
Head gasket would be relatively easy to repair, so I'd bet on rings or
valves...
John Celio wrote:
Hey, while we're on the subject of cars, I have a '95 Chevy Cavalier
that I absolutely hate but still kinda need. It recently lost
compression in two cylinders, according to the mechanic (who
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 03:36:19PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car - these are
designed by people that know what a
On Jun 6, 2009, at 22:36 , Rob Studdert wrote:
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car - these are
designed by people that know what a driver wants
From: William Robb
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
The union guys would say its immoral. Obama and the dems would probably
agree, since they agree with everything the unions say. But, no, it's
not illegal or immoral
Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 03:36:19PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your
Scott Loveless wrote:
On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wow. Not even a hint of HD. How unpatriotic.
The last time I looked at an HD was in the mid-90s and the
middle-aged, gold card bikers had pretty much driven the price through
the roof. If you could even find a
Ken Waller wrote:
I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive !
The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.
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On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 10:20:14PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
Ken Waller wrote:
I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive !
The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.
Not here - I'm in Silicon Valley. Porsche dealerships are commonplace
(my
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
There is governor in the black box, ignition cuts Off at 115 MPH and comes
back on at 110 MPH. Engine
Only doing 2800 rpm in fourth gear at 115 MPH.
FYI -The engine is goverened to that speed due to several things but mainly
due to the
On Jun 7, 2009, at 14:56 , John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 10:20:14PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
Ken Waller wrote:
I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a
demo drive !
The phrase before the comma would be the difficult part.
Not here - I'm in Silicon
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car
-
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Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
Ken Waller wrote:
I bet if you went to your local dealer, you could easily get a demo drive
Cars I have owned
1962 Chevy Impala SS My first car. It was what got me my wife!
1957 Mercury Parklane Cruiser After getting the wife I had to
downsize to the Mercury for cheaper payments!
1958 VW Beetle Car we bought overseas on Guam. A real Guam Bomb!
1968 Toyota Corona Bought on
Well, I don't have the car history that a lot of you guys have, this post
should really be in the Windows bashing thread, but here goes...
72 Mercury Capri (1.6 litre IIRC automatic). This started out life as my
mom's car, hence the slush box.
Met an untimely demise at the hood of a large
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I don't have the car history that a lot of you guys have, this post
should really be in the Windows bashing thread, but here goes...
My history is even shorter, having only owned 2 cars and had 2 others on loan.
1986
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it had a low top speed and shook like an
epileptic crack whore
Ken, Did you ever blow any of the head gaskets on the Super Coupes ?
No,
Never did.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: 27...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
Ken, Did you ever blow any of the head
Back then I lusted after a 914 2.0L but was too involved with sedan racing
in SCCA/IMSA to have the money to purchase one.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com
Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports
Lets see here.
1973 Datsun 1200 coupe. Great car but rusted incredibly fast. Body was
toast at 40,000 miles. I had enough money left after i bought this,
last year of college, to either get a radio or rust proofing, i took
the radio.
1979 GMC Jimmy. My first ordered truck. Three on the tree, 2
My car history has one theme. All American/rear wheel drive/V8 except
the first.
'69 Camaro V6 chevy
'71 Sport Lemans V8 pontiac
'71 Cutlass Supreme V8 olds
'79 Cutlass Supreme V8 olds
'84 T-Bird V8 ford
'95 T-Bird LX V8 ford
No imports on my list of any make.
I havent bought a car in over a
You might be able to buy an aftermarket chip for that computer that
will cancel the governor while enriching the fuel mixture a bit and
improving the ignition advance curve.
Paul
On Jun 6, 2009, at 5:39 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
My car history has one theme. All American/rear wheel drive/V8
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Subject: RE: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
My car history has one theme. All American/rear wheel drive/V8 except
the first.
'69 Camaro V6 chevy
'71 Sport Lemans V8 pontiac
On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wow. Not even a hint of HD. How unpatriotic.
The last time I looked at an HD was in the mid-90s and the
middle-aged, gold card bikers had pretty much driven the price through
the roof. If you could even find a bike on a showroom floor it
Harley's are big around silicon valley amongst the recently monied
hardware and software set. And here in the northwest, anywhere within
75 miles of Microsoft in Redmond, it's the commuter vehicle of choice.
On Jun 6, 2009, at 15:33 , Scott Loveless wrote:
On 6/5/09, mike wilson
On 6/6/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
2005 Porsche Boxster S new - what can I say, simply the best handling
vehicle I've ever driven - not your typical committee car - these are
designed by people that know what a driver wants provide it.
I this is the hardest thing to convey to
OK - I'll chime in with my car history.
My first car was a mid '60s Morris Minor 1000(sic) Estate
with the 1100cc engine, which my mother gave to me. While
not an exciting car to drive, it served me well for a few
years with very few problems (until the frame rusted out),
and was an easy car to
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
I blame the United Auto Workers for all the industry problems.
I'd agree if the issues were assembly related.
Kenneth Waller
Which a fair amount of them were/are. Can't blame the UAW for
everything though, the Detroit
On 6/5/09, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Toyotas are great cars, if you're a fan of roll-steer.
And about 98% of the Anmerican buying public has no idea what that is.
I have a Green Machine that does that! ;)
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I'll play:
all my cars:
1978 Plymouth Horizon - bought used in 1984 shared with my older sister.
Fine, reliable car until she melted the engine.
1965 Ford Mustang 289 4bbl V8 - used in 1985. Really a car that a 17
year old high school kid should never have owned. The car deserved
better than
Ken,
I blame the UAW for the economics of the industry, not the assembly
line problems. The union might as well have used a mask and a gun to
hold up the auto makers in the '60's. That's when I notices the big
wages and generous benefit packages. You could argue that it was
better to hire on
Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars . . .
Dan
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On 6/5/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars . . .
They talk about that stuff over at the Pentax forums. gdr
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Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does 50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
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On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does 50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
No. Motorcycles are off-topic.
A couple of ancient
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:15:03AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars . . .
It is a fundamental law that you can't decide what a thread is going to
be about, only what you're going to post to it. Given long enough,
it'll be about
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:39:51 +0100
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does
50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
i have a car. it's purple.
Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does 50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks. Both have worked
well for us. Subarus have their quirks and some odd repairs, but are generally
very reliable and handle well.
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Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
On 6/5/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote
This isn't an exhaustive chronicle of my cars but it does have
pictures of quite a few of them from the past 20 years:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/schoolpix.html
A few of the racecars I've owned and/or driven:
http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/racecars.html
This'll have links to
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks. Both
have worked well for us. Subarus have their quirks and some odd
repairs, but are generally very reliable and handle well.
I *hate* the steering boxes in Ford
On 6/5/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
This'll have links to pictures of my current racecar and daily driver
http://red4est.com/miata
About 8 years ago I almost had my wife convinced to let me turn her
'94 Miata into a Spec Miata. Since we already had the car, the
conversion would
Oh, I realize that. I was trying for subtle humor, but that seldom works.
I'm just glad to see Pentax get some good reviews for its consumer
cameras in the popular press. I think that will help Pentax sales and
the company's ability to keep manufacturing the kind of equipment we
want and need.
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:34:41PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
On 6/5/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
This'll have links to pictures of my current racecar and daily driver
http://red4est.com/miata
About 8 years ago I almost had my wife convinced to let me turn her
'94 Miata
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:15:03AM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Gee, I thought I was starting a thread on cameras, not cars . . .
Dan
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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks. Both
have worked well for us. Subarus have their quirks and some odd
repairs, but are generally very
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:47:15PM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
LOL. I'm not nearly this picky with cars. The truck starts and hauls stuff
where I want it to. The Subaru stays on the road in bad weather. This is
what most folks care about, which is why the in-depth analysis of
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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:47:15PM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
LOL. I'm not nearly this picky with cars. The truck starts and hauls stuff
where I want it to. The Subaru stays
On Jun 5, 2009, at 11:24, Larry Colen wrote:
Subie's do pretty well, but if you push them at all, you *have* to
trailbrake to get them to turn in. Though powering out of the esses in
a power induced four wheel drift in a 4WD can be a lot of fun.
I simply LIVE for the 8-12 inch snowstorms
believed it unless I experienced it.
Bad union/company relationship at the assembly is no where near as bad as it
use to be.
Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
Ken
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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:15:09AM -0400, Desjardins, Steve wrote:
We have a simple plan. We buy Subaru cars and Ford trucks. Both
From: paul stenquist
He had it completely wrong. Consumer Reports recommends all Toyotas
and no GM cars. For the most part, they're apologists for any car made
outside the U.S.
Toyotas are manufactured in Alabama, Indiana, Kentucky, Texas West
Virginia. They have a new manufacturing
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Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
Ken,
I blame the UAW for the economics of the industry, not the assembly
line problems. The union might as well have used a mask and a gun to
hold up the auto makers
We get much less snow in Va, but we get that damned wintry mix from
Dec to March. I always apreciate the Outback when I drive another car.
Steve Desjardins
On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com
wrote:
On Jun 5, 2009, at 11:24, Larry Colen wrote:
Subie's do
From: William Robb
I guess the questions are:
What are their criteria? Is it initial owner impression or is it long term
reliability?
Are they testing the vehicles to failure or depending on consumer feedback?
Consumer's Union (publisher of Consumer Reports) BUYs the cars they test
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:36:20PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
Oh, I realize that. I was trying for subtle humor, but that seldom works.
Well, there's this thing I _use_ for a sense of humour; it's not that
good at subtle.
I'm just glad to see Pentax get some good reviews for its
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:25:11PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote:
Except for the heavest of GVW vehicles, Ford trucks now have Rack pinion
steering installed.
The gearbox you complain about, (XR 50), continues to be the main steering
gear assembly in NASCAR cup cars.
Which I suspect don't
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:25:11PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote:
Except for the heavest of GVW vehicles, Ford trucks now have Rack
pinion
steering installed.
The gearbox you complain about, (XR 50), continues to be the main
steering
gear assembly
From: John Celio
Hey, while we're on the subject of cars, I have a '95 Chevy Cavalier that I
absolutely hate but still kinda need. It recently lost compression in two
cylinders, according to the mechanic (who also said it probably wasn't worth
repairing). Do you wise auto gurus think it
it completely wrong. Consumer Reports recommends all
Toyotas and no GM cars. For the most part, they're apologists for
any car made outside the U.S.
Toyotas are manufactured in Alabama, Indiana, Kentucky, Texas West
Virginia. They have a new manufacturing plant under construction
Head gasket fixes rarely work unless the block and head are
resurfaced. That makes it a big job. Cracks almost always cause loss
of coolant and overheating.
Paul
On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Celio
Hey, while we're on the subject of cars, I have a '95 Chevy
More or less in order starting from age 16. I don't think I've forgotten
any:
(16) 1961 Bel Air 4 dr; 283 powerglide - an automatic that could be
push started. Actually my parents car that I inherited because I could
fix it.
196x-something Morris Minor that I never got running - who knew
From: mike wilson
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does 50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
Motorcycles are in the Why does Windows ... thread. ;-D
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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:50:17 PM
Subject: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
More or less in order starting from age 16. I don't think I've forgotten any:
(16) 1961 Bel Air 4 dr
it.
- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:50:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
More or less in order starting from age 16. I don't think I've forgotten
any:
(16) 1961 Bel
John Sessoms wrote:
From: mike wilson
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Cars I have owned:
I have a car. It's dark green. It's done 173,000 miles. It does 50mpg.
Can I talk about my motorcycles?
Motorcycles are in the Why does Windows ... thread. ;-D
*Very* good, John
This will be a good memory test for me.
Let's see. The first car I ever bought was a 1934 Ford Tudor. I paid
$150 for it in 1963. It came with a Pontiac engine laying on the floor
where the back seat shold have been. With the help of three buddies, I
pushed it home -- about a mile and a
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From: John Sessoms
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
FWIW, the two vehicle manufacturers who have sued Consumers Union over
product reviews were Suzuki and Isuzu - both Japanese companies. Neither
was able to collect.
I remember the Isuzu one. I
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras
Made was a poor choice of words. The profits go back to Japan. Of
course all Toyota plants are in right to work states. No UAW. No health
care and pension burdens. So they have a huge
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From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 6:25:45 PM
Subject: Re: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
This will be a good memory test for me.
Let's see. The first
Brendan MacRae wrote:
Do you still wish you had the blown 426? The engine, I mean...!?
I don't know if it's still true, but as of four or five years ago you
could order a brand new, crate 428 or 429 (your choice, they had both)
from Ford Racing Performance Parts.
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DougF (KG4LMZ)
: Car History (was Re: Consumer Reports on cool cameras)
Brendan MacRae wrote:
Do you still wish you had the blown 426? The engine, I mean...!?
I don't know if it's still true, but as of four or five years ago you could
order a brand new, crate 428 or 429 (your choice, they had both) from
On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
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