Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:17 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: J. C. O'Connell wrote: Actually not really, I was correct but I didnt state PENTAX manual focusl lenses new but the original post DID state why not buy PENTAX AF lenses. Of course you can a lot of manual focus lenses in general, but not

Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread P. J. Alling
in (electronics) manufacturing in this day and age. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ What would

RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ But Pentax or any other major won't do it. Only a niche marketer would ever consider it. They'd be starting from scratch

Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread Adam Maas
in this day and age. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ What would be the benefit to someone

RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
what is your question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ On Feb 20, 2007, at 10:17 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote

Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Quiet, you. On 2/20/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Mark. Too obvious. On Feb 20, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/20/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also the inability buy a lens on demand is a big minus. Why scour eBay the second hand stores

Re: M42 digital camera ( was 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread japilado
' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260086611089 It seems the Pentax M42 quality lens market is still very strong and getting even stronger lately. I have never seen one

RE: M42 digital camera ( was 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+

2007-02-20 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: M42 digital camera ( was 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ There's a company that makes stereo cameras by mating two

Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Hamilton
smc Pentax FA-31mm ltd - $1100! http://cgi.ebay.ca/Pentax-SMCP-FA-31mm-F1-8-AL-Limited-RARE-MINT_W0QQitemZ270081795322QQihZ017QQcategoryZ106877QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Considering it's a few hundred dollars less brand new... and not out of production... Someone's got some cash to

Re: Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
A few years ago I saw a used LX folding finder sell on e-bay for only 3 times the price BH photo was asking for them new. I'm always amazed at e-bay. Mike Hamilton wrote: smc Pentax FA-31mm ltd - $1100!

Re: Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/1/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smc Pentax FA-31mm ltd - $1100! http://cgi.ebay.ca/Pentax-SMCP-FA-31mm-F1-8-AL-Limited-RARE-MINT_W0QQitemZ270081795322QQihZ017QQcategoryZ106877QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Considering it's a few hundred dollars less brand new... and

Re: Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 2/1/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago I saw a used LX folding finder sell on e-bay for only 3 times the price BH photo was asking for them new. I'm always amazed at e-bay. I'm considering selling my two FA limiteds (43 and 77) and purchasing the DA limiteds in that

Re: Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
the original eBay post, I did a search on BH and it showed out of stock... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Yet another ebay scam

2007-01-25 Thread Christian
My inbox today had an eBay invoice for items I did not purchase with a very convenient pay now link. An obvious scam, but I wanted to let people know to watch out for bogus invoices. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
. The item is as described. Please do not send the item back as I will not be refunding you in this instance. Please feel free to take the matter up with eBay. I will be forwarding all email exchanges between us to eBay for consideration. Regards, Steve C. Steve, Have checked with Canon

eBay Communications PART 1

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
Just looking at the other thread currently running about ebay and feedback, I thought I'd recount a little tale that might be of use to someone here. I sold an IR remote used with Darkside flash units a while back on eBay. Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemitem

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
. Managing and Completing your sales. ... Once the sale is complete, leave feedback for your buyer and encourage them to do the same for you. -- Unambiguous and final. Ebay is all about protocol. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote: Hope this is of use to someone :-) Very much so. Thanks, a reminder to keep all correspondence. Here's another one to note. My one neg came from a non-paying bidder. You've got to watch these and just file a non-paying report ASAP and end it as soon as you can without a reply from

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. Well, that's not how the game is played: That's the way the game is played by cautious sellers. There are no specific

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this is of use to someone :-) Yeah, it'll make me think twice about selling stuff on eBay (I've only ever bought). Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this is of use to someone :-) Yeah, it'll make me think twice about selling stuff on eBay (I've only ever bought). Cheers, Interesting story Cotty, but I think I can beat it. If you enjoy

RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Rob Brigham
That's nothing - read this little lot if you have some time on your hands: http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322205 Pretty hilarious! Certainly puts me off selling on ebay regularly although I do on occasion when I must... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad. For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without problems, product shipped without much delay and received in good condition - I

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. This thread is fascinating! Wouldn't this whole eBay feedback thing make an excellent study for game theorists? If the buyer never posts feedback, I don't either. Works for me. Whether buying

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. Well, that's not how the game is played: That's the way the game is played

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad. For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without problems, product shipped

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether buying or selling, on the (relatively rare) occasions that I leave any feedback, I always wait until I've received feedback from the other party before I leave mine. If this results in a waiting game in which neither of us gets

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
like normal misunderstandings, those I will buy from. I also sell on Amazon, and because there isn't buyer feedback there per se, I get feedback from only about 10% or less of customers. That is partly why I wait on ebay, it works as a reminder. I tell them I will give them feedback once

RE: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Rob Brigham
! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 24 January 2007 13:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: eBay Communications PART 2 My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at all unless

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/24/2007 6:00:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1/24/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: OT- eBay On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: OT- eBay If this results in a waiting game in which neither of us gets feedback... that's just fine with me. Can't see what the big deal is. As a buyer, I want positive feedback, as it makes my bidding on items more legitimate

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread pnstenquist
The rules I deleted were yours and yours alone. Ebay has no specific policy in regard to feedback timing or sequence. Paul -- Original message -- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 5

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Feedback participation is purely OPTIONAL on ebay, there are no ebay rules regarding when and and even if you leave feedback for the other party on a transaction. The problem with the so called guideline, there is really no other way of knowing if the sale is truly complete other than positive

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Perry Pellechia wrote: On 1/23/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. There's a risk of being blackmailed by unscrupulous buyers if you commit too soon to positive feedback. I've heard many horror stories of buyers

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
require buyers to contact me to promote good communications. It seems to work. I've only ever had one other bad sale, not on Ebay, by one of those scammers who want to launder money through a seller. It's very easy to simply refuse the sale and accept no money from them. G On Jan 23, 2007

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: OT- eBay Two way street Paul. I've only done some 50 eBay transactions Keyword, only 50 :) , all were purchases on my part. I've had two sellers rip me off outright, one seller send an item

Re: eBay Communications PART 2

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Interesting story Cotty, but I think I can beat it. If you enjoy poking yourself in the eye with a blunt stick on occasion check out my little experience: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/An_eBay_folly.html What a bloody

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
hi Ann, Here's the thing, Ann: I just don't care. I sell things on Ebay now and then, in bursts, for the benefit of the buyers. It's mostly stuff that I have cluttering up the apartment and I figure if I put it out for sale a) other people who value it will have the opportunity to buy

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The thing is, people ought to look -- on ebay negative buyer feedback is much lower than seller negative feedback. A seller is not going to leave negative or neutral feedback for a buyer unless they absolutely have to, because there is no point in shooting

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rules I deleted were yours and yours alone. Ebay has no specific policy in regard to feedback timing or sequence. There was an ebay URL there as well; I promise I did not hack into that site. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread graywolf
From one of my ads: -- THE FINE PRINT WARRANTY: The only warranty is that the item is as described above, and shown in the photos. Winner must notify me withing 7 days of any discrepancies, after that the sale is final. RESERVE: I have set a reasonable reserve of $xxx which is well below

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 25/01/07, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was an ebay URL there as well; I promise I did not hack into that site. They definitely strongly encourage users to leave feedback however it doesn't appear to be more than a recommendation on the US site, maybe the policy

OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread graywolf
as, or better than, described should be the goal of every eBay seller. They are mine, when I am the seller. Maybe eBay needs a new rating system, something like: 4- Service and merchandise beyond reasonable expectations. 3- Service and merchandise meets expectations 2- Service and merchandise did

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: OT- eBay Oh yes, and any indication of rating blackmail, by seller or buyer, should be dealt with severely. I've run into a couple of sellers who won't leave feedback until the buyer has left feedback. In these instances, I was tempted

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2007 8:36:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've run into a couple of sellers who won't leave feedback until the buyer has left feedback. In these instances, I was tempted to leave negative feedback at the last second, better judgement for once ruled

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Of course, I am just a small time seller, selling personal items. Soiled or clean? *parp* -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT- eBay I've run into a couple of sellers who won't leave feedback until the buyer has left feedback. In these instances, I was tempted to leave negative feedback at the last second, better judgement for once ruled the day

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Perry Pellechia
otherewise isn't ethical. I agree 100%. I just bought a Optech strap from an eBay dealer and he thanked me for the sale and wrote you can anticipate us leaving positive feedback for you ... when you have posted positive feedback for us. This is BS. I bought the item via buy-it-now and paid immediately

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- eBay - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT- eBay I've run into a couple of sellers

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: OT- eBay Actually, I really dont see how feedback can logically be left in any other sequence, buyer leaves first, then seller reciprocates. I'm not following your logic (not surprising). What you are saying is that it doesn't

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread keith_w
of the deal. To do otherewise isn't ethical. I agree 100%. I just bought a Optech strap from an eBay dealer and he thanked me for the sale and wrote you can anticipate us leaving positive feedback for you ... when you have posted positive feedback for us. This is BS. I bought the item via

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of Perry Pellechia Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- eBay On 1/23/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I win an item, pay promptly and in all ways stay within the confines of the published terms of the auction, then the seller should

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: I agree 100%. I just bought a Optech strap from an eBay dealer and he thanked me for the sale and wrote you can anticipate us leaving positive feedback for you ... when you have posted positive feedback for us. This is BS. I bought

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
post auction for instance demanding that I accept Paypal payments, credit card payments, escrow etc when my terms state plainly that they are not options. I've mainly sold on eBay and I've only ever received one negative from an idiot who simply changed his mind about his interest

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
a Optech strap from an eBay dealer and he thanked me for the sale and wrote you can anticipate us leaving positive feedback for you ... when you have posted positive feedback for us. This is BS. I bought the item via buy-it-now and paid immediately. He should be leaving positive feedback

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
does so. Paul On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: I agree 100%. I just bought a Optech strap from an eBay dealer and he thanked me for the sale and wrote you can anticipate us leaving positive feedback for you ... when you

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread ann sanfedele
I wouldn't have thought so a couple of years ago, but I agree now. I give repeat buyers feedback right away. I never _ask_ for buyers to leave me feedback - except when they are new to ebay - I write something like I'll be sure to leave you good feedback when I get your payment and hope you

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
response to your emails combined with their eBay feedback provides a fair indication of how easy they will be to deal with That's one big reason why the checkout system doesn't work for me as a seller. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- eBay Perry Pellechia wrote: On 1/23/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I win an item, pay promptly and in all ways stay within the confines of the published terms of the auction, then the seller should be giving me positive feedback without holding my giving positive feedback

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
feedback - except when they are new to ebay - I write something like I'll be sure to leave you good feedback when I get your payment and hope you will do the same when you receive the item - let me know if there are any problems, etc.. I chat a lot with the buyers - always write personal

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
left a positive feedback first, well, I guess they could leave a negative after a buyer left a positive, but I have never heard of such a thing ever on ebay and I have been doing ebay for over 10 years and I have seen all kinds of crazy stuff going on there. How psycho could a seller be to leave

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
WRONG- you assume all buyers are like you. Ebay sellers have to deal with all kinds of nutty buyers and the deal isnt done just because they paid. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:07 PM

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
have nothing to fear but the occasional person who is an aberration to the norm (but that's the same in all areas of living of course). Generally the buyers response to your emails combined with their eBay feedback provides a fair indication of how easy they will be to deal with That's one big

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Perry Pellechia
On 1/23/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. There's a risk of being blackmailed by unscrupulous buyers if you commit too soon to positive feedback. I've heard many horror stories of buyers complaining about

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't agree. Positive feedback from a seller regards a buyer means the buyer paid the invoice according to the stipulations of the transaction and communicated in a fair and sensible manner. If the buyer didn't pay or paid late, or otherwise acted obnoxiously, a note to the ebay staff

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
acted obnoxiously, a note to the ebay staff and neutral or negative feedback would be indicated. Positive feedback from the buyer regards a seller means the seller responded to queries, described the item accurately and shipped promptly, and that the merchandise was received and met approval

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've a number of things to people in Asia, South America, Europe and Africa. In all cases, I require puchasers of goods that live outside the US to communicate with me before placing a bid, and I put that right in the auction description. I do this because I will not quote the cost of

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
WHY WHY WHY do you or other buyers need immediate positve feedback? Whats the point? Why not be patient, wait til you get your goods, and when you do and are satisfied, leave a positive for the seller. With all the bullshit going on on ebay, I can tell you that I am delighted when any deal works

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
with an apology. I require buyers to contact me to promote good communications. It seems to work. I've only ever had one other bad sale, not on Ebay, by one of those scammers who want to launder money through a seller. It's very easy to simply refuse the sale and accept no money from them. G On Jan

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a perfect world, you might be right, Godfrey. But in the real world, unscrupulous buyers frequently try to rip off legitimate sellers. Leaving feedback before the buyer has approved the merchandise only encourages that behavior. Do as you

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fine. I do the same, although I don't restrict bidding. But good communication and due caution are just common sense. But if you provide positive feedback before the buyer indicates that the merchandise is acceptable, you open the door to blackmail and possible problems. Waiting for

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: OT- eBay In a perfect world, you might be right, Godfrey. But in the real world, unscrupulous buyers frequently try to rip off legitimate sellers. Leaving feedback before the buyer has approved the merchandise only encourages

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: OT- eBay Any other way of thinking about it means that your judgement on the buyer's end of the transaction is contingent upon how they feel about you acted, which poses a quiet threat or bribe. I feel this is unethical

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
There are numerous cases of buyers complaining to ebay that the merchandise was never delivered or was faulty. If it's a paypal deal, they can sometimes get their money back. Do as you will, but I prefer to wait until I'm sure everything is okay before I post feedback. Others are free

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- eBay I don't agree. Positive feedback from a seller regards a buyer means the buyer paid the invoice

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
No bingo. Ebay is a two-way street and buyers are as unscrupulous as sellers. If you're an honest seller, you have to be wary of dishonest buyers. Paul On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:19 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: OT- eBay Any other

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: OT- eBay In a perfect world, you might be right, Godfrey. But in the real world, unscrupulous buyers frequently try to rip off legitimate sellers. Leaving feedback before the buyer has approved the merchandise only encourages that behavior. Do

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
How can a buyer blackmail you? You have the money, they have your goods. If they're dissatisfied with the goods, tell them to return them and then return their money. Use an insured, tracked shipping service only, and stipulate that in the communications surrounding the sale. If the goods

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
transactions, not just listings made or payments sent. Feedback for the buyer and seller is obviously independent, otherwise eBay would implement a mechanism to ensure that the feedback posted between buyer and seller was complementary. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
If they paid with Paypal, they can get their money back. Even if they didn't, they can give you negative feedback. For a seller, any negative feedback is deadly. Anyone who sells a substantial amount of goods on ebay will tell you the same thing: You wait for your feedback, which indicates

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Exactly. On Jan 23, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 24/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if they give me bad feedback in an unjustified manner, I go to the auction host and have them remove it. Be thankful nobody has ever given you negative feedback,

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if they give me bad feedback in an unjustified manner, I go to the auction host and have them remove it. Be thankful nobody has ever given you negative feedback, unfortunately even if illegitimately posted it can be very difficult to

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
What's your point in the context of my quote? I dont get it. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT- eBay On 24/01/07, J. C

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You are the clueless person of the day. EBAY FEEDBACK is essentially PERMANENT. They will not retract it for you unless it breaks very strict/narrow ebay rules like giving personal information away, linking to webpage rants, a court order is issued to do so, etc. In other words, if someone gives

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
shipping, bulletproof packing, and as good as, or better than, described should be the goal of every eBay seller. They are mine, when I am the seller. Maybe eBay needs a new rating system, something like: 4- Service and merchandise beyond reasonable expectations. 3- Service and merchandise

RE: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
huh? your not making any sense. If ebay did what you propose (buyer and seller have to agree for FB to be posted?), there wouldnt be anything but positives would there? and that would be useless. I said that feedback is intended is for the entire transaction and I stand by that. That doesnt mean

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your point in the context of my quote? I dont get it. You stated: Feedback is for entire completed transactions, not just listings made or payments sent. This is plainly false, otherwise eBay would have implemented a mechanism whereby

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2007 6:27:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I disagree. As a seller, I never leave feedback until the buyer does. There's a risk of being blackmailed by unscrupulous buyers if you commit too soon to positive feedback. I've heard many horror

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread J and K Messervy
feedback as soon as the buyer has completed his part of the transaction...ie, paid. James - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:33 AM Subject: Re: OT- eBay In a message dated 1/23/2007 8:36:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: OT- eBay

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
. Godfrey On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If they paid with Paypal, they can get their money back. Even if they didn't, they can give you negative feedback. For a seller, any negative feedback is deadly. Anyone who sells a substantial amount of goods on ebay will tell you the same

Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread Micah B. Kleit
If he's paid through Paypal, then he should, theoretically, have an address that's been verified, or at least one that he entered at Paypal as the addressed\ to which he wants things sent. I've seen address with PO boxes; the boxes can just designate a specific location at an address. I

Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread npx
So my *istD outfit sold last night. The buyer, unfortunately, has zero feedback and his account is only a week old: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMESO% 3AITviewitem=item=150079244619rd=1rd=1 He already sent full payment through PayPal, and the transaction

Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread pnstenquist
Since you have the money, you have nothing to worry about. Send him the camera. If you don't, you will have something to worry about since he sent you the money:-). What would you want to protect yourself against? You've been paid. Paul -- Original message --

Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Buyer ratings are irrelevant once you have the money in hand. UPS and FedEx will not deliver to PO Boxes, but USPS will. Be sure you have documentation that proves you sent the item in a timely manner to wherever the buyer stipulates as being the correct address, through the agreed upon

RE: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
payment for the item and the item. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question) Since

RE: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread pnstenquist
both his payment for the item and the item. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:00 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay

RE: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question) Here's an example of how fuckface hurls the first personal insult

Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 20/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an example of how fuckface hurls the first personal insult of a thread. He will of course deny it, but he will always be just plain old fuckface. By the way, he's wrong. And he's fuckface. Only if you can clear your PP account

RE: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question)

2007-01-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: Camera sold, but worries remain (yet another eBay question) On 20/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an example of how fuckface hurls the first personal insult of a thread. He will of course deny it, but he will always be just plain old fuckface. By the way

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