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On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:48:17PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?...
I'd
John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:48:17PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?...
I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any
day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO
performance at 1600
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From: Tom C
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Certainly... I understand. Given that you could achieve your desired
results, would you opt for a lower or higher ISO? My guess is one usually
opts for the lowest ISO possible
Adam Maas wrote:
Tom C wrote:
With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?...
I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any
day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO [ ... ]
I get results at ISO1600+ on film that I would
Tom C wrote:
Certainly... I understand. Given that you could achieve your desired
results, would you opt for a lower or higher ISO? My guess is one usually
opts for the lowest ISO possible.
For me personally, if I could get a FF DLSR that was great at ISO 200 - 800,
comparable to the
.
Tom C.
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Adam Maas wrote:
Not only
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Tri-X heads shooting available light were always looking for more speed.
It was the content that counted not so much the quality. I find that
both the *ist-D and Ds
Heck, I've finally learned to compose for the 35mm frame, and unlike
some people I know the 6x9 format well predates the popularity of 35mm
double frame cameras.
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Toralf Lund
graywolf wrote:
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Or 24x28,
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Tri-X heads shooting available light were always looking for more speed.
It was the content that counted not so much the quality. I find
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Tri-X heads shooting available light were always looking for more speed.
It was the content that counted not so much
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:47:22 -0400 (EDT)
Adam Maas wrote:
Not only an old sensor, but one with extremely poor high ISO
performance
(it's the Sensor Kodak used
Tom C wrote:
Most of you guys are missing my point, or maybe I'm not
acknowledging that I get yours.
I'm just trying to say that high ISO quality seems to viewed as a
holy grail in digital photography, and my perception, right, wrong,
I think you're exactly right, Tom.
Sure there are a few
Anyone who shoots indoor events, including weddings, can benefit from
good high ISO performance. And even family pics and portraits are
much nicer in available light. I think high ISO performance is a good
plus for most photographers. That being said I'm far less offended by
noise and/or
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Tom C wrote:
Most of you guys are missing my point, or maybe I'm not
acknowledging that I get yours.
I'm just trying to say that high ISO quality seems to viewed
Bill Owens wrote:
I think you're exactly right, Tom.
Sure there are a few who really need high ISO performance: sports pros
often shoot football games with a 600/4 and 2x teleconverter under
stadium lighting at night. Closed down 1 f-stop to recover some
sharpness, they're at f/11 and
I think you're exactly right, Tom.
Sure there are a few who really need high ISO performance: sports pros
often shoot football games with a 600/4 and 2x teleconverter under
stadium lighting at night. Closed down 1 f-stop to recover some
sharpness, they're at f/11 and shooting fast action.
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Anyone who shoots indoor events, including weddings, can benefit
I agree. For me frame rate is relatively unimportant compared to buffer
size and throughput.
Tom C.
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NEVER, perhaps uniquely with me. Didn't ever care for the 'stark,
gritty, under belly of life' genre.
S'pose that could make me less than complete. ;)
Jack
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Anyone who shoots indoor events, including weddings, can benefit from
good high ISO
When I work with my Minox subminiature cameras, ISO 100 is high ISO...
I have the K10D set to Auto ISO with the range constrained to 100-400
most of the time. Differences in performance are near to invisible in
that range. I go to 800, and very rarely to 1600, when I need more
sensitivity.
If I can't capture a hockey game with players clothed in black and played by
candle light, the glass is NOT fast enough and the ISO is NOT high enough!
If I can't capture a timber wolf racing through a dense forest by starlight,
the glass is NOT fast enough and the ISO is NOT high enough!
If I
Bob,
You've gotta get off the crank! :-))
Paul
On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Bob Blakely wrote:
If I can't capture a hockey game with players clothed in black and
played by
candle light, the glass is NOT fast enough and the ISO is NOT high
enough!
If I can't capture a timber wolf racing
2-1/2 x 3-1/2 was a quarter 5x7 plate just as 3-1/4 x 4-1/4 was a quarter
6-1/2
x 8-1/2 plate and 4x5 was a quarter 8x10 plate. Those were the 2:3, 3:4, and
4:5
ratios that are still pretty much standard today and go back to the early days
of photography when those full plate sizes were the
You mean one of these?
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/TO-Y600.jpg
Sorry there are no transistors in there. However there are ten 9 volt
transistor
batteries in that one, plus 6 D cells. The clock radio is a fairly large one.
It
has no transistors either, just one IC.
P. J.
120 Roll film was invented by Kodak in the late 1890's You should look
at the formats most of those old folders which took 120 film..2 1/4 x 3
1/4 on 120 size was quite common. I can point to a few examples the
Kodak Autographic and early Folding Brownies between 1919-1929, the
actual image
2:3 = 6:9 which I believe makes my point.
graywolf wrote:
2-1/2 x 3-1/2 was a quarter 5x7 plate just as 3-1/4 x 4-1/4 was a quarter
6-1/2
x 8-1/2 plate and 4x5 was a quarter 8x10 plate. Those were the 2:3, 3:4, and
4:5
ratios that are still pretty much standard today and go back to the
From: P. J. Alling
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I think you left the letter B out of there somewhere ...
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I think you are a half century late there, Peter. Once again you are arguing
with someone who is basically agreeing with you. You seem to do that a lot
lately. 2:3 predates film by several decades.
P. J. Alling wrote:
120 Roll film was invented by Kodak in the late 1890's You should look
at
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go with
Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It seems someone is going to use that sensor and since Pentax is the
only brand not affiliated with any sensor brand for now...
http://news.fengniao.com/69/691199.html
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go with
Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It seems someone is going to use that sensor and since Pentax is the
only brand not affiliated with any sensor brand for
That thing would never land into a K20D IMO but an hypothetical
K5D/K1D, why not ;) ?
2007/10/21, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go with
Cypress 14Mpix
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go with
Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It seems someone is going to use that sensor and since Pentax is the
only brand not affiliated with any sensor brand for
Yes but maybe the equivallent with updated tech?
I can't read Japanese so really I can't say much and Babelfish is
absolutely of no help at all.
I know lenses are problem but I suppose a part of the fuel to this
rumour is indeed the recent delay introduced when DA*200/300 should
have been
I'd like it. I'd be very happy with FF, but it doesn't seem logical.
However, I'm now going to hold off on buying any DA* lenses until I
know more. (Other than the 60-250, which is my most lusted after
anway -- if not my most needed.) But rumors of this sort are a sure
way to put the
David Savage wrote:
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go
with Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It seems someone is going to use that sensor and since Pentax
is the only brand not affiliated with
2007/10/21, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dave: *Whatever* Pentax does will piss off a lot of people. Use the
Cypress sensor. Not use the Cypress sensor. Go full-frame, not go
full-frame. etc.
;-)
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On 10/21/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Whatever* Pentax does will piss off a lot of people. Use the
Cypress sensor. Not use the Cypress sensor. Go full-frame, not go
full-frame. etc.
Mark!
So very true.
Cheers,
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Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go with
Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It seems someone is going to use that sensor and since Pentax is the
only brand not
Adam Maas wrote:
Not only an old sensor, but one with extremely poor high ISO
performance
(it's the Sensor Kodak used in the DCS14n, DCS/n and DCS/c).
Well they may have improved it since then: The data sheet shows it's
been revised, January 2007 -- they've nearly doubled the frame rate
from
If they go full frame I want the aperture simulator back. :-P
Mark Roberts wrote:
David Savage wrote:
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to Ken Takeshita:
Seems there's a strong rumour in Japan that Pentax would go
with Cypress 14Mpix FF sensor.
It
But that'll just add to the cost ot the camera.
:-)
Cheers,
Dave
On 10/21/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If they go full frame I want the aperture simulator back. :-P
Mark Roberts wrote:
David Savage wrote:
On 10/21/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According
graywolf wrote:
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Or 24x28, even?
Yes, a change of aspect ratio would be interesting. I wonder what the
reaction would be...
Toralf Lund wrote:
On the other hand, as perhaps someone mentioned earlier, there's a lot
between 1.5x and 1.0x. It's
No thanks, I want to use it on my existing camera. However that is about the
price I would want to pay for it.
Your thing I could do manually with my existing digital at no cost, but since I
am not into stilllifes much it would not help me a lot.
Sandy Harris wrote:
On 10/21/07, graywolf
Quote:
Hi Thibouille,
I do not know how latest the sensor is, but the Chinese site is talking
quite in detail about the spec and the expected price (So, I was told. I do
not read Chinese :-).
I noted it is 3fps which is on par with 5D which indicates it should not be
an obsolete sensor
Make that my existing 4x5 camera, the Graphic from 1952.
graywolf wrote:
No thanks, I want to use it on my existing camera. However that is about the
price I would want to pay for it.
Your thing I could do manually with my existing digital at no cost, but since
I
am not into stilllifes
and a
tripod.
Tom C.
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Adam Maas wrote:
Not only
Tom C wrote:
With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?...
I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any
day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO
performance at 1600 and above. I find any photo I take at 1600 or higher
with
it doesn't work near as well as a lower
ISO and a
tripod.
Tom C.
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Adam Maas wrote:
Not only an old sensor, but one
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Who *seriously* shoots at ISO1600+ and gets results they would rave about?
For my kind of photgraphy it doesn't work near as well as a lower ISO and
a
tripod.
I shot a few
From: Toralf Lund
graywolf wrote:
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Or 24x28, even?
Yes, a change of aspect ratio would be interesting. I wonder what the
reaction would be...
Stunned horror followed by extreme outrage.
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John Sessoms wrote:
From: Toralf Lund
graywolf wrote:
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Or 24x28, even?
Yes, a change of aspect ratio would be interesting. I wonder what the
reaction would be...
Stunned horror followed by extreme outrage.
I dunno, I definitely prefer
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A shot that I consider one of the best of my career was at 3200. But
I don't get all bent out of shape about noise or grain. Apparently,
some
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:48:17PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
With the caveat regarding who knows about Pentax?...
I'd take a full frame sensor that did very well between 200 - 400 ISO any
day (ISO 800) w/b nice, over any sensor that had marginal high ISO
performance at 1600 and above. I find
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next
camera(s)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:18:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If
the
645d does return it will be a large scale New Product
introduction.
Something I don't
On 19/10/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It
does not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You
wouldn't *need* new lenses of course...
As others have already posted,
The Leica M8:
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:49:10 +
Tom,
You know Hoya management? Can you introduce them to the rest of us?
Paul
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May
I want a full frame portable all in one back for my 4x5. It does not have to be
high resolution, 4000x5000 will do fine for me.
How's that for a dream?
Rebekah wrote:
Hopefully a new camera will drive down the price of the K10 :)
But this 'I want FF' thing is really out of proportion IMO.
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Toralf Lund wrote:
On the other hand, as perhaps someone mentioned earlier, there's a lot
between 1.5x and 1.0x. It's been reported here that the DA lenses
generally cover very nearly the image circle required by 35mm film, so
perhaps they would
will they actually do? The CEO hasn't told me. :-)
Tom C.
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On 10/21/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want a full frame portable all in one back for my 4x5. It does not have to
be
high resolution, 4000x5000 will do fine for me.
How's that for a dream?
Good one.
More realistic: how about a little robotic device that manages using
a digital
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Tom,
You know Hoya management? Can you introduce them to the rest of us?
Paul
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No.
On Oct 20, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Tom C wrote:
No. But I read
It might be a reflection of things at home.
Is your granddaughter in that No stage Paul?
:-)
Cheers,
Dave
On 10/21/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These one word answers aren't giving me much fuel for a rebuttal Paul. ;-)
Tom C.
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No.
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Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Oh, possibly. But the point is that two megapixels *alone* won't do
anything - there has to be more to it. Lower noise would count :)
I don't expect Pentax to go full-frame yet but I certainly hope they
don't try to cram more than 10 MP into an APS-C sensor. A 1.2-1.3
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From what Adam has told us about the newest sensors, 12
megapixels with good noise characteristics might well be possible
at 1.5.
Could be. But every so often I look at what Nikon's getting from 12
megapixels at full-frame...
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Date: 2007/10/19 Fri AM 09:05:02 GMT
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On 19.10.2007, at 02:36 , Adam Maas wrote:
That depends, if those extra
Feels right, Paul.
Jack
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It wouldn't be logical from a marketing point of view to introduce a
camera that can't use the lenses that you've just introduced. The DA*
60-250 hasn't even seen the light of day yet. Plus, most of the full
frame lenses seem to have been
When SR is turned off, does it automatically center? It must, huh?
Jack
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Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Oh, possibly. But the point is that two megapixels *alone* won't
do
anything - there has to be more to it. Lower noise would count :)
I don't expect
On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Cotty wrote:
The pecking order is
1. Shitbag
2. Fartbag
3. Sleazebag.
Is there a position for smeghead in your hierarchy?
G
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In fact, more likely than a full frame camera and a line of lenses is the
645D. Lenses for that camera are already in production
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:49:52 -0400
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:06:18AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
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From what Adam has told us about the newest sensors, 12
megapixels with good noise
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:46:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
A few days ago Mike J had a really interesting historical tale of
camera marketing and product lines:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2007/10/in-the-early-19.html
Apropos of nothing: I just love
So where does 'Turd Gnat' fit in the order?
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Friday, October 19, 2007, 10:37:40 AM, you wrote:
mw Cotty wrote:
On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
I thought Cotty was the only one able to bestow shitbag status on a list
member. I'm feeling that my exclusive club
have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today?
Tom C.
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did
have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today?
I think it is wrong to think medium format. Medium format used a certain
film type that
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:18:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If the
645d does return it will be a large scale New Product introduction
They're not really cameras anymore. They're optical computers. We think of
the LX as a camera circa 1980. We should think of the latest crop of digital
cameras as circa 10:30 AM.
Regards,
Bob...
Art is not a reflection of reality. it is
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at the K10D. :-) While I appreciate the low price, it's got to be
hard to make money on a body that depreciates by 50% in one year. It
makes me wonder if they are still in the production line. Some of the
stores selling at $999
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645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If the
645d does return it will be a large scale New Product
Mafud? (whoops)...
Tom C.
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colostomy bag
: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:18:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If the
645d does return it will be a large scale New Product introduction.
Something I don't think Pentax has the chutzpah to carry off. Nor do I
On 2007-10-19, at 21:20, Mark Roberts wrote:
I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage
(but optimized for digital with the latest anti-reflective coatings)
and the designation was changed to DA because it has no aperture ring.
We'll see what the score is when it
always been optimized for the center of the image
circle it projects. :-)
Tom C.
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Canon 1D series, Leica M8.
One never needs new lenses. You only have to think creatively and
use the lenses you have. You might not be able to do *exactly* what
you used to do, but for many that's not really such a terrible thing
to deal with... ;-)
Photographers shouldn't be so
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Given the reports on Hoya's management priorities, I can't see them
allowing
Pentax to embark down a road on a niche-market, low-volume product.
According to Pentax and subsequently Hoya they want to be niche maker
concentrating
Mafud? (whoops)...
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:18:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site
: hints about sensor for next camera(s)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:18:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If the
645d does return it will be a large scale New Product introduction.
Something I don't think Pentax has the chutzpah to carry off. Nor do I
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Tom,
One thing you are forgetting is that pro-level 645 glass is far
Mafud? (whoops)...
Tom C.
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* new lenses of course...
Tom C.
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It's been
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645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site
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Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It
does not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You
wouldn't *need* new lenses of course...
Leica M8 is 1.33 or so.
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It's been reported here that the DA lenses generally cover very nearly the
image circle required by 35mm film, so
perhaps they would be perfect
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The market changes fast. I think Pentax missed the mark with the 645D.
If
it was released 2 years ago it might have had a chance.
No chance at all. It would have been far too expensive. Only when the cost
is right will a 645D
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