Oops :)
(actually I wanted to say that I inspected also other FRAMES on the
film, but it's also true that I really had 2 identical DA*60-250 LENSES
for testing. No difference between the copies)
BRM
mike wilson wrote:
Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee wrote:
I've inspected also my other
Look at the first image here.
www.eftel.net.au/~james_bradford/peso.htm
taken with an A70/210 at F32 on macro setting with a K10D, no flash.
That lens has been pulled apart and fungus cleaned off. (not by me)
James
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Look at the first image here.
www.eftel.net.au/~james_bradford/peso.htm
taken with an A70/210 at F32 on macro setting with a K10D, no flash.
That lens
P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's the subject matter or just my eyes, but I seem to detect a
bit of image degradation at the edges and corners. Not a lot different
than the FA 28-200mm. I don't think I'd want to use the DA* 60-250mm on
film, ( or a 24x36mm sensor
Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee wrote:
I've inspected also my other DA*60-250.
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You're right it is just one web image. However you can usually see
lens defects in a single image. I'm talking about what appears to me
be softness, when used on 35mm film a medium that is /beyond/ /the/
/advertised/ /limits/ /o/f /the/ /lens./ The impression is the same one
I get from
Gross defects, probably. Marginal changes in sharpness, with this image, not
in a million years.
The trees appear to be in a line closest to the camera on the right and
furthest away on the left. Those in the middle are in focus, the rest are not,
as I would expect at f4. The leaves are
mike wilson wrote:
P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's the subject matter or just my eyes, but I seem to detect a
bit of image degradation at the edges and corners. Not a lot different
than the FA 28-200mm. I don't think I'd want to use the DA* 60-250mm on
film, (
Mark Roberts wrote:
mike wilson wrote:
P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote:
Maybe it's the subject matter or just my eyes, but I seem to detect a
bit of image degradation at the edges and corners. Not a lot different
than the FA 28-200mm. I don't think I'd want to use the
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:08:40AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
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From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site, not the APS-C sensor. Could this be the start
paul stenquist wrote:
If I have time, I'll put it on the LX and shoot some test frames.
Might be interesting.
This appeared about a week ago:
http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10450739size=oalbum_id=148643
Z-1p, DA*60-250 at 60mm, f/4, AGFA Vista 200
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Well, there you have it. Only minor vignetting. Would that increase or
decrease at a smaller aperture?
In any case, it's probably useable on full frame, although I would
think it's optimized for APS-C.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
paul stenquist wrote:
If I have
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I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site, not the APS-C sensor. Could this be the start
of something? Regards, Bob S.
2009/5/10 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee:
Much more
* image quality - sharp and nice
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Look here:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_DA_Star_60-250mm_F
4_ED_(IF)_SDM/
Exclusively
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I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site, not the APS-C sensor
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Well, there you have it. Only minor vignetting. Would that increase or
decrease at a smaller aperture?
It's probably falloff, rather than vignetting, and it would improve at
smaller apertures.
In any case, it's probably useable on full frame, although I would
think
True enough. I haven't tried my DA* 50-135 on full frame, but I expect
the results would be similar. I know the DA 50-200 covers full frame.
But if you believe Ned and the Pentax website, none of these lenses
were designed for full-frame use. As you point out, the 60-250 may be
different
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Some lenses that are optimized for APS will still cover the full
frame, particularly those of longer focal length. Pentax has indicated
that all the DA* lenses
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
Well, there you have it. Only minor vignetting. Would that increase or
decrease at a smaller aperture?
It's probably falloff, rather than vignetting, and it would improve at
smaller apertures.
In any case, it's probably useable on full
Unfortunately DA*50-135 doesn't fit FF. Wide open you can see dark
corners clearly at 50mm, vignette achieves the maximum at 70mm and then
reduces to mild falloff after 90mm (but you can still see it at 135mm).
Stopping down makes it worse and at small apertures you can clearly see
a round
So that would suggest that perhaps the DA 60-250 was designed to be
used with both formats. That would certainly be a plus.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Margus Männik wrote:
Unfortunately DA*50-135 doesn't fit FF. Wide open you can see dark
corners clearly at 50mm, vignette achieves
Absolutely,
and this is probably why it shows so good results right from wide open
(at APS-C bodies).
One more interesting fact. As you may know, there is a MTF sub-program
at K10D and K20D (actually the setting have been there since FA lenses
and Z/PZ bodies appeared - for example Z-1p has
Sounds good. I've noticed that the MTF choice for the DA8 50-135 is f4
at shorter focal lengths as well. It goes to 6.7 at the longest focal
lengths.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Margus Männik wrote:
Absolutely,
and this is probably why it shows so good results right from wide
open
If I get the time and remember, I will take my A70-210 out
to Boca Inlet and get some seascapes with it and some similar
primes and zooms for comparison. I aint be able to shoot
the DA60-250 because theres no way Im buying that at $1350
now. From what I recall my Tamron SP 80-200/2.8 is at the
top
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From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site, not the APS-C sensor. Could this be the start
of something? Regards, Bob S.
I read somewhere that the reason
Maybe it's the subject matter or just my eyes, but I seem to detect a
bit of image degradation at the edges and corners. Not a lot different
than the FA 28-200mm. I don't think I'd want to use the DA* 60-250mm on
film, ( or a 24x36mm sensor if or when it becomes available on a K mount
body),
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I doubt it. I think the K7 may well be the last DSLR from Pentax;
certainly the last high-end model (think PZ-1p/MZ-S, which marked
the end of technological advancement on the PEntax film bodies).
The future
I've inspected also my other DA*60-250 on film frames. To get maximum
performance, I would use f/5.6 or smaller. I lab-printed (direct
film-to-paper copies) couple of frames to A3 size (30x40cm) and those
look quite good. I just dont' like AGFA colors - too yellowish and
redish for me. I'm
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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:08:40AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
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From: Bob Sullivan
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:00:29AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
- Original Message - From: John Francis
By going to a micro 4/3 camera complete with EVF Pentax will be
able to achieve the smaller, lighter goal that Hoya seem to have
in mind. A camera with a 36x24mm sensor will
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Note that Panasonic is a consumer electronics company; Pentax (and Hoya)
are optical companies. They don't want to wander out of the area of
their strengths into those of the competition, which is what moving to
an EVF would do.
I
William Robb wrote:
I read somewhere that the reason for the really long delay on this lens was
caused by a complete redesign of the optical formula to allow for full frame
coverage. The 55/1.4 also covers the 24x36 format.
I'm just guessing here, but I expect Pentax knows that whether they go
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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Pragmatically, if that thing on top of the K-7 is an EVF, you're likely
right. If it's a full-view, full magnification pentaprism, I'm going to
suggest that it means I'm right, at least as far as optical viewfinder
being included in
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 02:07:42PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Note that Panasonic is a consumer electronics company; Pentax (and
Hoya) are optical companies. They don't want to wander out of the
area of their strengths into those
William Robb wrote:
I hope you are wrong about the EVF part, unless they get several magnitudes
of quality better. I haven't seen one yet that I think is usable.
Apparently the Lumix DMC G1 is supposed to be a good one, and it gave me a
headache in less than half a minute of using it.
I'll
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 02:23:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Pragmatically, if that thing on top of the K-7 is an EVF, you're likely
right. If it's a full-view, full magnification pentaprism, I'm going to
suggest that it means
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From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I'll give you two daring predictions for the future:
1 - EVF's *will* eventually compete with mirror/prism viewfinders in
terms of image quality.
2 - The transition from mirror/prism to EVF will take place
: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
William Robb wrote:
I read somewhere that the reason for the really long delay on this lens
was
caused by a complete redesign of the optical formula to allow for full
frame
coverage. The 55/1.4 also covers the 24x36 format.
I'm just guessing here, but I expect Pentax knows
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From: JC OConnell
Subject: Sample Image - A70-210 on digital was RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
I got curious and went out in the parking lot
and snapped this one today handheld with the A70-210mm/4 on digital
(istDS).
I think I was around 180mm and F8 on this.
http://www.jchriso.com/temp
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John,
Your
, May 11, 2009 at 6:52 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:08:40AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
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From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site
On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:18:07 -0400
JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
blame google, I have repeated reported to them the problem ( russian
hack)
was corrected over 6 months ago but they refuse to update the status
or even reply to my requests for update. I can email photo if
requested for
From information absorbed by my little noggin way back when, I am now
under the impression that optimized for aps-c meant, among other
things, that it was an effort to make the light rays more parallel as
they struck the sensor to prevent the color fringing we see in our
digital images.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 02:07:07PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit:
From information absorbed by my little noggin way back when, I am now
under the impression that optimized for aps-c meant, among other
things, that it was an effort to make the light rays more parallel as
they struck the
One of the reasons I / we are nervous about jco's carriage returns, if
in fact that's all they are.
Fix it, damn it!
On May 11, 2009, at 13:51 , Bran Everseeking wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:18:07 -0400
JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
blame google, I have repeated reported to them
Sorry, but something in there is still alive and kicking. Whatever it
is, lives in the ebay info html and tried to download stuff from a long
series of .ru sites. I think all the attempts were blocked, but a
complete checkup is in order.
Sorry, but there may be a serious risk - not in the
, 2009 7:36 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
For what it is, no it is not that much.
And no, I'm not particularly interested in seeing quality comparisons.
My el-cheapo 18-55 lens regularly knocks my socks off in terms of image
quality. I'm sure the $1,200 lens
John Francis wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Pragmatically, if that thing on top of the K-7 is an EVF, you're likely
right. If it's a full-view, full magnification pentaprism, I'm going to
suggest that it means I'm right, at least as far as optical viewfinder
- Thomas Jefferson
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Joseph McAllister
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:07 PM
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From information absorbed by my little noggin way back when, I am now
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Graydon
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 02:07:07PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit:
From information absorbed by my little noggin way back when, I am now
under
: Sample Image - A70-210 on digital was RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
One of the reasons I / we are nervous about jco's carriage returns, if
in fact that's all they are.
Fix it, damn it!
On May 11, 2009, at 13:51 , Bran Everseeking wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:18:07 -0400
JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net
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Luiz Felipe
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Sorry, but something in there is still alive and kicking. Whatever it
is, lives in the ebay info html and tried to download stuff from
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:02:13PM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit:
I already stated the problem with the carraige returns, they are
specific only to this list and are coming in on the original posts,
when I hit reply the original post gets quoted. Its got to be
something specific with this list
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:32:47AM +0200, Frits W?thrich wrote:
John Francis wrote:
o Pentax put a 1/8000 shutter speed and 1/250 flash sync in the PZ-1p;
features that never showed up again in any future Pentax bodies (so
far; we'll see whether this remains true later this month).
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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:25:30PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
Note that Panasonic is a consumer
Of
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Sorry, but something in there is still alive and kicking. Whatever it
is, lives in the ebay info html and tried to download stuff from a long
FWIW, Until I get my web server sorted out I put
these over on the following site:
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/hifisapi/
( a couple of sample images taken today with A70-210/4 on digital)
JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net)
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in the book of wisdom - Thomas
Jefferson
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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 02:07:07PM -0700, Joseph
Frits Wüthrich wrote:
John Francis wrote:
Basing predictions for Pentax bodies on features showing up in past
bodies
has not, historically, been a sure-fire strategy. A few examples:
o Pentax put a 1/8000 shutter speed and 1/250 flash sync in the PZ-1p;
features that never showed up
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Pentax claims that the 645D is going forward.
On May 11, 2009, at 6:57 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
MF is dead forever. There would be FF digital before
John Francis wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:32:47AM +0200, Frits W?thrich wrote:
John Francis wrote:
o Pentax put a 1/8000 shutter speed and 1/250 flash sync in the PZ-1p;
features that never showed up again in any future Pentax bodies (so
far; we'll see whether this remains true
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
Pentax claims that the 645D is going forward.
On May 11, 2009, at 6:57 PM, JC OConnell wrote:
MF is dead forever. There would be FF digital before they ever went
back to those huge bodies and lenses of 67 or 645 size.
JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
There's a substantial pro market for medium format digital. If Pentax can
build a price leader, they'll do okay with it.
I kinda think that anyone with a significant investment in 645 glass will
snap up
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From: JC OConnell
Subject: RE: Sample Image - A70-210 on digital was RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
FWIW, Until I get my web server sorted out I put
these over on the following site:
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/hifisapi/
( a couple of sample images taken
thought.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 8:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
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From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
There's a substantial pro market for medium format digital. If
Pentax can
build a price leader, they'll do okay with it.
I kinda think
My prediction: Whatever the last model DSLR produced by Pentax is, it
will be the last high end camera I'm likely to buy from them. The
14mp sensor is already higher resolution than I could reasonably achieve
with 35mm film and its high ISO performance is better than I could have
dreamed of
Jefferson
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From: JC
Jefferson
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paul stenquist
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:27 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
You're right. And even those without a prior investment may go for a
Pentax MF
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:42:02PM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit:
None of this makes any sense to me. The point of medium format in
the film era was higher quality than 35mm. But it didnt skip from
35mm to large format, there was 645, 6x6, 6x7, then 4x5. Going from
aps to 645 ( asumming they do
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From: JC OConnell
Subject: RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
None of this makes any sense to me. The point of medium format in
the film era was higher quality than 35mm. But it didnt skip from
35mm to large format, there was 645, 6x6, 6x7, then 4x5. Going from
aps to 645
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
You're right. And even those without a prior investment may go for a
Pentax MF digital, since there are numerous excellent used lenses
available at very reasonable prices
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William Robb
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:59 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
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From: JC OConnell
Subject: RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
None of this makes any sense to me
I'm sure you are aware that the opposite is true.
35mm was the last of the line in film photography (not counting 1/2
frame and miniature) starting with large sheets of various sizes
(after glass negs) from 11 x 14 to 4 x 5, then the 3 x 4 and 2 1/4 x 3
1/4. Roll film came later for the
ME. And the film to go with it, up to 8 x 10 sheet.
Not proud of it, as I have so many other things to occupy my time than
shooting and trying to get processed and printed large and medium
format images.
I took a roll of Agfa 120 to a local outfit with a 35mm / 120 digital
Agfa processor
I added a 100% crop of the silver car the photo site. If you copy
and paste the full size image to photoshop and then zoom in
to more than lifesize, you can see that the badge
on the grille is resolving far greater than the
camera resolution ( granted its only a 6Mp sensor)
but that's not bad.
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Joseph McAllister
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:24 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
ME. And the film to go with it, up to 8 x 10 sheet.
Not proud of it, as I have so many other things to occupy my time than
with all the carriage returns in your emails?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: JC OConnell
Subject: Sample Image - A70-210 on digital was RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
I got curious and went out in the parking lot
and snapped this one today handheld with the A70-210mm/4 on digital
in the book of wisdom - Thomas Jefferson
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Joseph McAllister
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:16 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I'm sure you are aware that the opposite
- Thomas Jefferson
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P. J. Alling
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Sample Image - A70-210 on digital was RE: DA* 60-250 at BH
At least you get a security
William Robb wrote:
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From: JC OConnell
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/hifisapi/
It's hard to say anything without seeing a larger rendering, other than it
doesn't look like a swimming pool. :-)
William Robb
HAR!
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Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you to buy
it. Nevertheless, I have had my lens now for about two weeks and I'm
extremely satisfied. IMNSHO, it IS much more than my previous long zooms.
BR, Margus
(renovating hallway)
JC OConnell wrote:
I clearly stated that the
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you to buy
it. Nevertheless, I have had my lens now for about two weeks and I'm
extremely satisfied. IMNSHO, it IS much more than my previous long
zooms.
BR, Margus
(renovating hallway)
JC
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Margus Männik
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250
- Thomas Jefferson
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Margus Männik
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you
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Margus Männik
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you
to buy
it. Nevertheless, I have had my lens now for about two weeks and I'm
extremely satisfied. IMNSHO
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you to buy
it. Nevertheless, I have had my lens now for about two weeks and I'm
extremely satisfied. IMNSHO, it IS much more than my previous long
zooms.
BR, Margus
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Bob Sullivan wrote:
I also noticed that BH lists the DA*60-250/4 in the full frame lens
category on their site, not the APS-C sensor.
Remember, the 60-250 was originally designated a D-FA lens.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
Behalf Of
Margus Männik
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
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Margus Männik
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
Well, it's also clearly stated, that no-one is forcing me or you
to buy
it. Nevertheless, I have had my lens now for about two weeks and
I'm
-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Nick Wright
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:12 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I don't think it's all that terrible much.
The Canon 70-200/4L IS runs about $1,100.
Both lenses are weather-sealed f/4. The Canon
$1300+ is not that terrible much? Wouldnt you rather see a
test comparison to the $139 typical smc-A/70-210/F4 before judging
that $1300+ price?
Hmm... Are these both new prices, or are you comparing new with used here?
Can one still get the A70-210 new?
- Peter
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Nick Wright
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:12 PM
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I don't think it's all that terrible
: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:13 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
JC OConnell wrote:
$1300+ is not that terrible much? Wouldnt you rather see a test
comparison to the $139 typical smc-A/70-210/F4 before judging that
$1300+ price?
JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net
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Peter Loveday
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:07 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
$1300+ is not that terrible much? Wouldnt you rather see a test
comparison to the $139 typical smc-A/70-210/F4 before judging
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Nick Wright
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:12 PM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
I don't think it's all that terrible much.
The Canon 70-200/4L IS runs about $1,100.
Both lenses are weather
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:56 AM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
$1300+ is not that terrible much? Wouldnt you rather see a
test comparison to the $139 typical smc-A/70-210/F4 before judging
that $1300+ price?
JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net)
Honesty is the first chapter in the
I'm afraid they just tore it.
Jack
--- On Fri, 5/8/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: DA* 60-250 at BH
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Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 5:59 PM
It's listed now and in stock. $1395.
Of
Nick Wright
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:36 AM
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Subject: Re: DA* 60-250 at BH
For what it is, no it is not that much.
And no, I'm not particularly interested in seeing quality comparisons.
My el-cheapo 18-55 lens regularly knocks my socks off in terms of image
quality
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Adam Maas
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:08 AM
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