Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks! Downloaded it already. Will play with it later today at home... Boris On 11/8/2010 9:45 AM, SV Hovland wrote: You can use this, http://download.heime.org/sfk/IMGP0158.DNG I took it specifically for testing how clipping is handled and to see how much information there is in the dark

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/8/2010 9:44 AM, Larry Colen wrote: One area where I see increased Dynamic range to be useful for me is photographing bands where one band member will be in bright light, and another will be in shadows. With two more stops of dynamic range, I have a better chance of making both musicians

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Thibouille
Idealy, a raw talen by both k7 ans k5 with exact same exposure and if possible Lens would be perfect. 2010/11/8, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Well, the only visible and major difference in spec is DR. May be what I should do is simply ask Paul and Bob S and others who have K-5 shoot for

Re: PESO - Port Nr.1

2010-11-08 Thread Thibouille
It may havé indeed. It is thé first Time I do such shooting so it is probably quite bad compared to what I'll acheive with experience. I'm waiting for Ralf verdict ;) Other shots are better but how Am I gonna PP those I dunno yet. 2010/11/8, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hmm... Oddly it

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Paul and Dave. She sure is (growing up fast). On 11/6/2010 10:24 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Nice pics of Galia. She's growing up fast! Paul On Nov 6, 2010, at 2:36 AM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 6, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Re: PESO - Port Nr.1

2010-11-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm waiting for Ralf verdict ;) Other shots are better but how Am I gonna PP those I dunno yet. Technically, it's as OK as a single exposure of such a scene can be. And no, I don't see any sharpness/tripod probs. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Dave. On 11/6/2010 2:30 PM, David J Brooks wrote: A nice series. Looks yummy Dave On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-48-pizza.html Cheers! :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, this pizza was made from wholesome wheat so that it wasn't entirely anti-diet :-). On 11/6/2010 3:28 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: Dang, now I'm hungry again!! There goes my diet.. Nice shots of a cute kid :-) Walt On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
It is unfortunate that I did not bring her to Chicago, but may be next time there is a gathering she'll accompany her father... On 11/6/2010 3:48 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Sweet, sweet, sweet. She's really cute, Boris. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Richard! On 11/6/2010 7:29 PM, Richard D Bush wrote: You have a beautiful young daughter. I wish I had someone like her to make pizzas for me. RB On Nov 5, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-48-pizza.html Cheers! :-)

Re: Galia PESO #49 - Cormorant

2010-11-08 Thread eckinator
2010/11/8 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Indeed she is. Having been acquainted with a number of PDMLers in person make her even more eligible... how are her fancy language skills then? PDML has a vacancy to fill ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread paul stenquist
It's good that the K-7 meets your needs. It meets mine as well for the most part. But you don't need a 300% enlargement to see the advantages on the K-5 in low light. While those are due only in part to the dynamic range, they are very real advantages that are easy to see even in web sized

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/8/2010 1:52 PM, paul stenquist wrote: It's good that the K-7 meets your needs. It meets mine as well for the most part. But you don't need a 300% enlargement to see the advantages on the K-5 in low light. While those are due only in part to the dynamic range, they are very real advantages

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Well, the only visible and major difference in spec is DR. May be what I should do is simply ask Paul and Bob S and others who have K-5 shoot for me a scene in bright daylight with assortment of shadows and send me the RAW file (DNG). I

Re: Peso - how long?

2010-11-08 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Boris and Bob. Yes, Grace has a watch as well but doesn't wear it. She's far too young for that. But a phone? I'm sure she thinks she's ready:-). But she won't be getting one for a long time. Paul On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Excellent! And that pumpkin?! in the

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/8/2010 1:52 PM, paul stenquist wrote: It's good that the K-7 meets your needs. It meets mine as well for the most part. But you don't need a 300% enlargement to see the advantages on the K-5 in low light. While those are due only in

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/8/2010 2:16 PM, paul stenquist wrote: That would still be somewhat apples to oranges, since they would be different photos. But when I have time, perhaps tonight, I will record the same image with both cameras at high ISO in low light. I'd surely appreciate that, Paul. Boris -- PDML

Re: PESO - Love is only a four letter word

2010-11-08 Thread paul stenquist
Very nice, Dario. The girls appear to be carefully considering the message. Paul On 11/7/2010 7:08 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Lasse's FB link reminded me of this picture, shot on Hohenzollern Bridge in Cologne. Pity the writing is not true to Dylan's song, but here we go:

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's because Galia probably thinks the K10D is a wonderful camera and it loves her in return. Either that or her eyes are better. ;-) Yesterday I processed some of the Galia's photos from K10D. I find it very hard to let it go and as well I might keep it anyway. It is impossible to put

Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
And thus ends another tragic period in Ralf's life. ;-) Congrats. 2010/11/7 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: P.S.: le K-7 est vendu. -- Ralf R. Radermacher  -  DL9KCG  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog   : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: PESO - Love is only a four letter word

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I kind of like the FOV. It seems to really emphasize the message without completely marginalizing the girls. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:19 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very nice, Dario. The girls appear to be carefully considering the message. Paul On 11/7/2010 7:08 PM,

Re: Peso - how long?

2010-11-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
Haha -- sooner than you think! Interestingly, when it happens, you'll find that chatting is not its primary function... http://bit.ly/bi6vyN :) -c On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:55 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Before she wants one of her own?

Re: PESO - The Lost One

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
definitely the color one. You might have the best of bought worlds by desaturating the surroundings a bit. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:20 AM, frank theriault wrote: This didn't work in BW - or at least I haven't found the right

Re: Goin' to Beilbyville

2010-11-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/11/10, Theodore Beilby, discombobulated, unleashed: Diane was diagnosed with breast cancer and underwent surgery on the 21st. I have been her nurse/servant so that has kept me busy. The margins of her lumpectomy were clear as well as the lymph node that the surgeon removed. She is now

It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
DxO has tested the D7000: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/nikon-d7000-sensor-raw.html And the K-5 gets an slight advantage thanks to its ISO 80 setting, not present in the D7000. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Galia PESO #49 - Cormorant

2010-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Boris. I wasn't really referring so much to the pano crop, but, instead, the space back of the bird. I always feel more comfortable with there being somewhat more frame space in the direction a subject is either facing (as in this case) or, especially, in the direction of movement.

Re: OT - web editing software for Mac

2010-11-08 Thread Cotty
I use Softpress Freeway. WYSIWYG. Based on a Quark-like interface. http://www.softpress.com/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Just now saw this, Boris. She's a photogenic treasure. Jack --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 1:14 AM Thanks,

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 08:26, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: DxO has tested the D7000: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/nikon-d7000-sensor-raw.html And the K-5 gets an slight advantage thanks to its ISO 80 setting, not present in the D7000. I suppose it's time for me

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lun,8 noviembre, 2010 15:54 Asunto: Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested) On 8 November 2010 08:26, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: DxO has tested the

Re: OT Firefox Attachment Warnings

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:  I'd much rather be warned that I haven't spelled something properly. There is a warning for that. Wow, what a world Dave -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral

Re: OT - web editing software for Mac

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
I use Text Wrangler for my site, and it shows. DAVE On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:54 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-11-07 12:43 , Adam Maas wrote: For text there is only one answer. BBEdit/textWrangler. i use BBEdit and recommend TextWrangler too, but it's not the _only_

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't remember pictures of her before, although I'm sure you've posted. Another child in the spotlight, although Galia can fight back. ;-) On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Just now saw this, Boris. She's a photogenic treasure. Jack --- On Mon, 11/8/10,

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: At low ISO you need a good sensor, but at high ISO you also need great algorithms. I thought you needed great legs.?? Dave  --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com     http://EnticingTheLight.com     A

Re: Peso - how long?

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
Looks like she is on hold. Tell Grace to get used to it.;-) Dave On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:55 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Before she wants one of her own? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11915816 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 10:12, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: At low ISO you need a good sensor, but at high ISO you also need great algorithms. I thought you needed great legs.?? Dave I already have those. --M.

Re: Boris PESO #48 - Pizza

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, here you totally misread the picture, Steve. I am posting pictures from my family album extremely rarely. Really just few times a year if not less. I often post pictures that Galia took, but not those where she appears. On 11/8/2010 5:11 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I don't remember

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 10:06, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Miserere, this is what I call 'team work'... Team España ;-) Regarding the Sony A55...May its results be affected by the mirror preventing part of the light from reaching the sensor? Hmmm...that's a good question.

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 00:49, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I processed some of the Galia's photos from K10D. I find it very hard to let it go and as well I might keep it anyway. It is impossible to put into words, but if Galia manages to hit it, it looks so much more pleasant

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2010 08:26, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: DxO has tested the D7000: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/nikon-d7000-sensor-raw.html And the K-5 gets an slight advantage thanks to its

Re: Peso - how long?

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another stunning portrait, Paul Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:55 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Before she wants one of her own? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11915816 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
According to DxO, K-7 has bigger sensor than D7000. The crop factors are 1.52 vs 1.53 respectively... *Evil grin* On 11/8/2010 3:26 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: DxO has tested the D7000: http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-tecnicas/nikon-d7000-sensor-raw.html And the K-5 gets an slight

Re: Peso - how long?

2010-11-08 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks Dan. She was talking to her father in Scotland. That's a delicate issue around here given our previous legal battles with him, but we encourage her to stay in touch. It's hard to get her to spend more than a couple minutes talking to him. I doubt that she understands much of what

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread CheekyGeek
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: According to DxO, K-7 has bigger sensor than D7000. The crop factors are 1.52 vs 1.53 respectively... *Evil grin* I'm guessing that you are not serious, but isn't the crop factor due to a *combination* of the sensor size

Re: OT - web editing software for Mac

2010-11-08 Thread Jeffery Smith
Thanks to all of you who replied to this email post. Most if not all of these programs have a free trial period, so I'm going to download a heap of them and see which has the look and feel I am most comfortable with. Thanks again! Jeffery On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/11/10, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: but if I'm going to buy a K-5 Hey money-bags, and the X100 right? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 12:01, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/11/10, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: but if I'm going to buy a K-5 Hey money-bags, and the X100 right? ;-) Argh! Don't remind me! So much gear...so little money... --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com  

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:15:58AM -0600, CheekyGeek wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: According to DxO, K-7 has bigger sensor than D7000. The crop factors are 1.52 vs 1.53 respectively... *Evil grin* I'm guessing that you are not serious,

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
On 11/8/2010 11:15 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: According to DxO, K-7 has bigger sensor than D7000. The crop factors are 1.52 vs 1.53 respectively... *Evil grin* I'm guessing that you are not serious, but isn't the crop factor

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, of course I am not being serious. I am thinking however that this web site, which is looked up and looked at by great many people and which is striving to be most well known could be more attentive to the small details such as this. It should be 1.53 and most likely it is yet another minor

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: According to DxO, K-7 has bigger sensor than D7000. The crop factors are 1.52 vs 1.53 respectively... *Evil grin* I'm guessing that you are not serious, but isn't the crop factor due to a *combination*

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
- Mensaje original De: John Francis jo...@panix.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lun,8 noviembre, 2010 18:23 Asunto: Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested) On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:15:58AM -0600, CheekyGeek wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at

Re: OT - web editing software for Mac

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It is a wonderment. On 11/8/2010 10:10 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I use Text Wrangler for my site, and it shows. DAVE On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:54 AM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-11-07 12:43 , Adam Maas wrote: For text there is only one answer. BBEdit/textWrangler. i use

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not entirely sure that the K-5 D7000 and Alpha 55 actually use the /exact/ same sensor. Not only do they seem to have different frame sizes, and pixel counts, (which could be accounted for in the three manufactures implementations, but they also have different Pixel pitches. That seems

Re: Proof of Time Travel

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another time traveler, in a 1940 photo, with modern sun glasses and a modern compact camera: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VSQaMHhvm20/SeJcy-yRNII/BIU/nIiN_MGMqc0/s1600-h/Hipster+1940.jpg http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread553942/pg1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 4 November 2010 15:03, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: From a post by Kerrick James on the DP Review Pentax forum: For those of you interested in the 645D and the K-5, I am presenting a show called 'SOUTHWEST SOJOURNS' twice at W B Hunts in Boston this Friday from 4-6 PM and

Re: Green images... :-(

2010-11-08 Thread Charles Robinson
In case anyone is interested in what the green imaging looks like when taking a daylight shot. In daylight. This is a screen capture from Lightroom. Check out the weird histogram! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/green_image_k7.jpg -Charles -- Charles Robinson -

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, he seems deeply disappointed ;-) It must be nice for a long time 6x7 shooter to have something approaching a digital equivalent to what he's used too. I loved the phrase expedition grade field camera. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 November 2010

Re: Green images... :-(

2010-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Charles Robinson wrote: In case anyone is interested in what the green imaging looks like when taking a daylight shot. In daylight. This is a screen capture from Lightroom. Check out the weird histogram! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/green_image_k7.jpg -Charles -- Charles

Re: Proof of Time Travel

2010-11-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another time traveler, in a 1940 photo, with modern sun glasses and a modern compact camera: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VSQaMHhvm20/SeJcy-yRNII/BIU/nIiN_MGMqc0/s1600-h/Hipster+1940.jpg http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread553942/pg1 not such a good

RE: OT - web editing software for Mac

2010-11-08 Thread Bob W
I use Softpress Freeway. WYSIWYG. Based on a Quark-like interface. http://www.softpress.com/ be careful how you use that - it's really difficult to get quark-gluon plasma stains out of the carpet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11711228 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: OT Firefox Attachment Warnings

2010-11-08 Thread Bob W
 I'd much rather be warned that I haven't spelled something properly. There is a warning for that. Wow, what a world Do you mean wordl? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Green images... :-(

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow. That's plain old broken. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Charles Robinson wrote: In case anyone is interested in what the green imaging looks like when taking a daylight shot.  In daylight.   This is a screen capture from Lightroom. Check out the

Re: Proof of Time Travel

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Actually, it's not photoshop. The image appears to be genuine, but everything in it really could have been there at the time: http://forgetomori.com/2010/fortean/time-traveler-caught-in-museum-photo/ Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Ann

Re: Green images... :-(

2010-11-08 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:19:28PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: In case anyone is interested in what the green imaging looks like when taking a daylight shot. In daylight. This is a screen capture from Lightroom. Check out the weird histogram!

PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*50-...@80mm, 1/180s, f/13, ISO200 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 November 2010 13:30, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, he seems deeply disappointed ;-) It must be nice for a long time 6x7 shooter to have something approaching a digital equivalent to what he's used too.  I loved the phrase expedition grade field camera. He's obviously

Re: Green images... :-(

2010-11-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 8, 2010, at 13:54, John Francis wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:19:28PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: In case anyone is interested in what the green imaging looks like when taking a daylight shot. In daylight. This is a screen capture from Lightroom. Check out the weird

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Save this, DagT! Truly terrific. Congrats! Jack --- On Mon, 11/8/10, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: From: DagT li...@thrane.name Subject: PAW44 - Bug To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 11:56 AM

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread drd1135
A very neat shot. Nice catch. -Original Message- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:56:49 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW44 - Bug

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread drd1135
The best endorsements come from those who actually like the product. For an outdoor photographer this has to be a great camera. -Original Message- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:59:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net

Re: It's offical: K-5 is the best (D7000 tested)

2010-11-08 Thread Thibouille
The true iso values are different as well, Pentax bing a lot closer to advertised iso values. Cheating that way (yes Pentax does as well) is a way to get more DR at a given advertised iso value. I hate this behaviour ! 2010/11/8, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: I'm not entirely sure

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Intriguing and effective; well seen and brilliantly captured. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*50-...@80mm, 1/180s, f/13, ISO200 DagT

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
That's just very very clever. Sometimes I just want to make a photograph and can't find anything to shoot. You're becoming an inspiration. You make great photos out of nothing. (Oh by the way I really hate you). On 11/8/2010 2:56 PM, DagT wrote:

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread Jeffery Smith
Hanging on for dear life? Jeffery On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:56 PM, DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*50-...@80mm, 1/180s, f/13, ISO200 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Almost rhetorical question about focus problem.

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I was shooting an event last night, and ran into a problem with my FA 43mm limited. It wouldn't register a focus lock at medium distances ~15ft on the K20. So I'd switch to manual focus, and the focus hexagon burned bright and steady, without any focus adjustment. Seems weird. Now I've

Re: Almost rhetorical question about focus problem.

2010-11-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Try it again. Is the problem repeatable? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I was shooting an event last night, and ran into a problem with my FA 43mm limited.  It wouldn't register a focus lock at medium distances ~15ft on the

Peso: Fall Sunlight

2010-11-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11919975size=lg Comments, and critiques welcome. Shot today with the K-5 DA 60-250/4 zoom ISO 200, 250mm f4.0 @ 1/320 Beautiful day here... Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: k-5 autofocus fine adjustment

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:20 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I might build something like that. But the target on the floor works. Great, now i have to build a floor. Dave Paul On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:42 PM, paul stenquist

Re: PESO - Love is only a four letter word

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I kind of like the FOV.  It seems to really emphasize the message without completely marginalizing the girls. I agree. Dave On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:19 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very nice,

Re: Almost rhetorical question about focus problem.

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It was repeatable all night, (he said stupidly), I'll have to go someplace of roughly the same size and lighting levels to try again. Probably tomorrow. On 11/8/2010 4:42 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Try it again. Is the problem repeatable? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:16 PM, P.

Re: PAW44 - Bug

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
Love it dAVE On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*50-...@80mm, 1/180s, f/13, ISO200 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Peso: Fall Sunlight

2010-11-08 Thread David J Brooks
Pretty Dave On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11919975size=lg Comments, and critiques welcome. Shot today with the K-5 DA 60-250/4 zoom ISO 200, 250mm f4.0 @ 1/320 Beautiful day here... Regards,  Bob S. --

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/11/10, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: For those that couldn't make it to the seminar, here is a publicity video for the 645D featuring John Carlson and Kerrick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrseh35DZis Nice to see a good quality video for a change - well made. Makes me want a

Re: Almost rhetorical question about focus problem.

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'd mess with it again, try to reproduce the effect on a different day, maybe on a different camera. Then I'd get depressed and sens it in. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It was repeatable all night, (he said stupidly), I'll have to go someplace

K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread P N Stenquist
Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. One pic each of the same scene from each camera, shot off a tripod with the DA* 16-50 at f5.6, 1/60th. (Both meters agreed on that exposure.) The FOV varies slightly, because I turned the zoom ring a bit when removing the lens

Re: Anyone wanna come see the 645D in Boston this weekend?

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Not to get silly about this, but it's an effective video. James comes across as a serious mature photographer. He presents the 645D as big and solid in all the important ways, not tricks and features. A serious camera for serious work, and he makes that camera look so nice to use. For all I

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
That noise right at the top is most telling to me. At least I found it the easiest to see scrolling up and down on my Mac, My reaction: the K5 shot is clearly better but the K7 shot is OK. I'm surprise the difference is not more extreme, given what I've been reading. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: That noise right at the top is most telling to me. At least I found it the easiest to see scrolling up and down on my Mac, My reaction: the K5 shot is clearly better but the K7 shot is OK. I'm surprise the difference is not more

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: That noise right at the top is most telling to me. At least I found it the easiest to see scrolling up and down on my Mac, My reaction: the K5 shot is clearly better but the K7 shot is OK.

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I can't afford a 645D either. I think I adopt that position as well. No question the K5 is better. Still, with a little cleanup the K7 will produce a usable image. Of course, the K5 might produce a near perfect image. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. The tabletop looks horribly grainy. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's true: the K-7 is not horrible at 6400. I've said that before, and I've sot with it at that ISO. But the K-5 is close to noise free. Look also at the side of the freezer -- the white object to the far right -- and the ceiling tiles above. Note

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Looking at the photos, while not noiseless to my eye, the K-5 noise patterns are clearly less obtrusive, so much more controlled than the K-7 that I'm now clearly glad that I decided to skip that generation of DSLR and wait for the next. Well I guess the next generation is here and I'll have

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It does doesn't it. On 11/8/2010 6:15 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P N Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. The tabletop looks horribly grainy. Ralf -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. The tabletop looks horribly grainy. Yes, it was solid color:-). Seriously, the tonality of the tabletop is near perfect in

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm surprised that Paul would buy a table that grainy. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It does doesn't it. On 11/8/2010 6:15 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P N Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Lol.. Jack --- On Mon, 11/8/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 3:16 PM Looking at the photos, while not

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Even though slightly less contrast, the K-5 offers an image willing to allow ones PP preferences without first dealing with the K-7's more limited DR. The dark counter behind the table is the first area that caught my eye and gave the margin comfortably to the K-5. Thanks very much, Paul. Nice

Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400

2010-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:25 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. One pic each of the same scene from each camera, shot off a tripod with the DA* 16-50 at f5.6, 1/60th. (Both meters agreed on that exposure.) The FOV varies

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