On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Too exhibitionist for showing a picture of her daughter? That is
called slut shaming (or victim blaming if you are sensitive), blaming
the victim for acting outside your accepted norms.
Dave, let me try to explain.
I've tried to stay out of this discussion, but alas...
Boris' reasoning has two _big_ flaws. One is accepting that certain
geographical (or virtual in the sense of facebook) areas are exempt from
common sense and law. I can see no reason why anyone would resign to such a
state of affairs.
The only thing missing from that shot is a couple of ewoks! :-)
Jostein
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Fra: Larry Colen
Dato: 9. desember 2013 04:17
Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Emne: PESO redwood trunk
I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon.
I think I like this one
Jostein,
I don't understand how it come to be that you inferred from my
reasoning that common sense and law don't apply somewhere, say on FB?
I would appreciate an explanation, even if off-list.
Then, I did not mean to imply that FB were criminals. I meant to
illustrate the point that this
Between your viewpoint from Israel and mine from the Frostpit I think both
of us suspect that community rules are crafted by bet-hedging lawyers
catering for the American judicial system. :-)
My main point was that I failed to see the analogy between your post and the
original topic in the
Indeed, the FB is American company, as knowing its history, it
naturally stands to reason that initially it was tailored/directed to
the American judicial system, just like you said.
As for being off-topic - that's been my point all along that the real
issue at hand has nothing to do with the
lighting on bark certainly makes it. Nice -this is a redwood tree
shot - which is difficult to do - great to have that just across the
street from where you live, too.
ann
On 12/8/2013 22:17, Larry Colen wrote:
I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon.
I think I like
On 12/8/2013 23:02, Alan C wrote:
Peat moss is quite widely used for pot plants because it retains water
like a sponge. I just use topsoil mixed with compost.
Alan C
In that case, I'll try peat moss. THe odor of compost in a small NY
apartment would not be something I could tolerate and
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are wrong.
Compare your scenario to this one.
I'm having a party at my house and I have a bunch of friends over. No
big deal. Someone who has a grudge against me calls the police and
my party is shut down because of the complaint, even though
Well, you're right but not completely. I'm not saying that FB were
right to apply whatever corrective action their applied following
(supposedly) report of this image via their standard procedures. I'm
saying that the problem is elsewhere, and not in the what picture
shows or FB action, especially
Decided to check to see if a couple of my recent offerings to my On Line Pentax
Gallery have been accepted or approved.
Doesn't come up. Anyone else?
Jack
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Sometimes when I walk, something touches my eye in a way that connects.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290946473/
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I had a look at the gallery a couple of years ago, and it came right upL-).
Paul
On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Decided to check to see if a couple of my recent offerings to my On Line
Pentax Gallery have been accepted or approved.
Doesn't come up. Anyone
Looked thru mine last night and all was as it should be.
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Subject: Re: My Pentax Photo Gallery
I had a look at the gallery a couple of years ago, and it came right upL-).
Paul
On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Jack Davis
I think the underlying premise -- that to portray a human as a sexual
being is to inherently denigrate other aspects of their humanity -- is a
false one.
All of this calls to mind a recent discovery for me: a woman named Susan
Oliver. I just happened to see her in an episode of the Andy
Here's a handy site to check that precludes such questions:
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Looked thru mine last night and all was as it should be.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist
Can't have a Santa Claus parade with out a fluffy bunny:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17622750
D200, 18-75, SB 800 for fill.
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and again i ask, whats a Santa Claus parade with out Edna.:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17622749
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Thanks, Ken. Due to the array of recent problems encountered, I'm sure it's due
to the activity of my geek and I, in our struggle to set up a new 64 bit
computer.
Jack
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From: Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
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Cc:
Thanks Darren, but one of my current problems is that I am unable to open ANY
links.??
Jack
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From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: My Pentax Photo Gallery
Here's
Sounds like you are VERY secure. Maybe the browser settings are for too much
security?
Or you've lost the address for your DNS.
On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
Thanks Darren, but one of my current problems is that I am unable to open ANY
links.??
Jack
- Original
To check if it is your DNS settings, see if you can open THIS link:
http://144.216.1.72/
That is the IP address for
http://www.unk.edu/
If you can open it by number, but not by name, your DNS server is down
or your DNS settings are borked.
Are you on Windows or Mac?
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:49
I believe you're right, Darren. I'm getting a severe warning not to open the
first of the two links you just sent.
I think MacAfee is trying to elbow in. At this point, Norton hasn't been
transferred.
Jack
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From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
To:
1) A happy accident becoming a bemusing abstract.
2) Fun to play with these things. I think the result works for a
magazine illustration or such.
3) I really like #2
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:51:49 -0600
From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com
To:
I would imagine that the warning is due to the fact that the IP
address can't be resolved (therefore the software can't evaluate it as
a threat, because it doesn't know where it is going).
I assure you that the numeric link is to the exact same place as the
link below it.
I would go into your
And your walk and vision provide simple pleasures for your viewers.
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 07:10:48 -0800
From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com
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PDML@pdml.net, SeePhoto
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 09:53:45AM -0600, Walt wrote:
All of this calls to mind a recent discovery for me: a woman named
Susan Oliver. I just happened to see her in an episode of the Andy
Griffith Show that was on the TV at the bar where I worked and was
struck by just how beautiful a woman
Thanks, Darren. Will chase it this PM. I'm saving your email 'til then.
Jack
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Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 9:26 AM
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I would imagine that
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:30:26AM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
lighting on bark certainly makes it. Nice -this is a redwood tree
shot - which is difficult to do - great to have that just across the
street from where you live, too.
Thanks Ann.
I did exagerate a little when I said just
Damn, you're so good. Perfect!
ann
On 12/9/2013 10:10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Sometimes when I walk, something touches my eye in a way that connects.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290946473/
Thanks for looking, enjoy!
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On 12/9/2013 13:55, Larry Colen wrote:
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:30:26AM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
If you click on Ben Lomond in the text below the picture
it will call up the map.
The map took the high road - no link here.
But, yes, I'm very spoiled. The shortest walk to Fall creek
Very nice, Larry. I like the colors and texture a lot.
Rick
On Dec 8, 2013, at 22:17 , Larry Colen wrote:
I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon.
I think I like this one the best of the set, just for the lighting on the
bark:
Very nice use of the dappled sunlight. I like it.
Rick
On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:10 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Sometimes when I walk, something touches my eye in a way that connects.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290946473/
Thanks for looking, enjoy!
Godfrey
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The fact
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:02:06PM -0500, Rick Womer wrote:
Very nice, Larry. I like the colors and texture a lot.
Thanks Rick.
Rick
On Dec 8, 2013, at 22:17 , Larry Colen wrote:
I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon.
I think I like this one the best of the
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 10:53:52AM +0100, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:
The only thing missing from that shot is a couple of ewoks! :-)
This is the one I call vacation on Endor:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99496143@N00/4409775400/in/photolist-7HFfAm
Jostein
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/stuffedsaddleofrabbi_92126
On 9 Dec 2013, at 16:34, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't have a Santa Claus parade with out a fluffy bunny:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17622750
D200, 18-75, SB 800 for fill.
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On 9 Dec 2013, at 16:36, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
and again i ask, whats a Santa Claus parade with out Edna.:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17622749
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Dave, consider this scenario. You drive in a neighborhood and in great
hurry you leave your car windows open. Your car gets robbed. You
invoke insurance, and so on. While engaged in damage control you are
[...].
2. The second time you did it on purpose. Further, this time you were
hehehe!
Jostein
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From: Larry Colen
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:08 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: SV: PESO redwood trunk
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 10:53:52AM +0100, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:
The only thing missing from that shot is a couple
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently, trying to keep up with the list, not looking at
as many PESOs as I should.
Here's a promo video I completed recently for a sailing adventure
business - thoroughly enjoyed filming, despite getting soaked in
seawater and slammed against hard bits in a speedboat.
Sun Dec 8 09:55:19 EST 2013
Attila Boros wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:
On the subject of some people finding any nudity to be sexual:
http://thefeministbreeder.com/why-subscribe/tfb-banned-facebook/
I agree that no sane person would find
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:03:49PM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
On 12/9/2013 13:55, Larry Colen wrote:
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:30:26AM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
If you click on Ben Lomond in the text below the picture
it will call up the map.
The map took the high road - no link
I must say, I was a bit disappointed at first, but that's probably because I
misread the word 'promo'. Once I'd recovered it was a very good video!
B
On 9 Dec 2013, at 20:12, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently, trying to keep up with the list, not
I remember several PDMLers mentioning that they liked
Expson Exhibition Fiber Paper.
(Paul? Godfrey?)
FYI: Atlex.com has some deal for it right now:
http://www.atlex.com/deals/cyber-monday-deals
Igor
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I must say, I was a bit disappointed at first, but that's probably because I
misread the word 'promo'.
It didn't hoist your mainsail?
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I wonder if anybody here has tried any of the papers from the brand/line
Simply Elegant Metallic ..:
Chrome Gloss, Metallic Pearl, Pure Silver Metallic, Pure Gold Metallic,
Moonglow Metallic.
And if so, - what is the difference between them in the actual
look (beyond what is in the short
On 9 Dec 2013, at 20:32, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I must say, I was a bit disappointed at first, but that's probably because I
misread the word 'promo'.
It didn't hoist your mainsail?
My yard-arm fell right
Igor -
I can't be of much help with the papers you have listed from Atlex, but
you might also investigate the papers from Red River Paper in Dallas.
http://www.redrivercatalog.com/
They have a Polar Pearl Metallic that prints up great on an Epson R2000.
Their papers are as good or better
Excellent work. Great shots and a superb edit.
Paul
On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently, trying to keep up with the list, not looking at
as many PESOs as I should.
Here's a promo video I completed recently for a
Very nice work!
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently, trying to keep up with the list, not looking at
as many PESOs as I should.
Here's a promo video I completed recently for a sailing adventure
business - thoroughly
It didn't hoist your mainsail?
My yard-arm fell right down.
Tacky.
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On 8/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:
I feel that the collection of images I have gathered on this trip are not,
when seen together, coherent enough to tell a good story beyond being a
travelogue.
Does coherency depend on a story? What's wrong with a decisive
On 8/12/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
I went for a walk in the park across the street this afternoon.
I think I like this one the best of the set, just for the lighting on the
bark:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/11282810134/in/set-72157638497397164
Concur. Like it!
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It looks like Candice and I will spend about a week kicking around the
southwest (maybe CA and AZ deserts) between 12/27ish and 1/3.
Suggestions for places to go take photos, preferably ones not already
photographed to a faretheewell?
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on 2013-12-09 13:12 Steve Cottrell wrote
https://vimeo.com/user2607591/review/81351774/7e34f33415
i'm a sucker for a sailing adventure; seeing all those smiles made me want to
sign up right away
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On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:11:10PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
It looks like Candice and I will spend about a week kicking around the
southwest (maybe CA and AZ deserts) between 12/27ish and 1/3.
Suggestions for places to go take photos, preferably ones not already
photographed to a
Good thing I took a dramamine before viewing :-)
Pretty sailboat, glad you didn't get too damaged filming that...
certainly well presents what it might be like to take that voyage -
clearly takes a special kind of tourist to do it... and a much more
interesting promo than the smooth water,
Is there anything out there that is even remotely close to the 50-135 f/2.8
that costs less than $350, or am I just dreaming?
I don't shoot concerts often enough (and it's just for fun) to justify even the
used 50-135 at KEH for $500, even though I know that's a bargain for that lens.
But I
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 04:29:04PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote:
Is there anything out there that is even remotely close to the 50-135 f/2.8
that costs less than $350, or am I just dreaming?
A bit over a year ago, I picked up a manual focus Tokina 80-200/2.8 for
about $150.
I think the
On 09/12/2013 9:53 AM, Walt wrote:
I think the underlying premise -- that to portray a human as a sexual
being is to inherently denigrate other aspects of their humanity -- is a
false one.
Of course, everyone here has it wrong, since they are either arguing for
or against the femal breast
Consensus bang for the buck would be the Pentax-F SMC 70-210mm
f4-4.6 (NOT the Takumar-F version).
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-70-210mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=930
You can find 'em for under a $100 pretty
You think I can afford another trip shortly?
Alas... :-(
Jostein
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From: Larry Colen
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:18 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Southwest roadtrip
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 02:11:10PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
It looks like
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 , Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I don't shoot concerts often enough (and it's just for fun) to justify even
the used 50-135 at KEH for $500, even though I know that's a bargain for
that lens.
Damn! KEH has a 50-135 for $500? !!!
$546 actually. Sorry I
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:46 , Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Consensus bang for the buck would be the Pentax-F SMC 70-210mm
f4-4.6 (NOT the Takumar-F version).
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-70-210mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html
the Pentax-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED is rated quite highly if you want to
buy new and should be in your budget - note the new WR version would
be more pricey than this.
The 50-200 is even cheaper but apparently optically not that great.
I haven't used either but I can second Darren's suggestion for
I'll think about it, Steve.
Jostein
-Opprinnelig melding-
From: Steve Cottrell
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:58 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: PESO - Big Sur
On 8/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:
I feel that the collection of images I have gathered
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 , Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I don't shoot concerts often enough (and it's just for fun) to justify even
the used 50-135 at KEH for $500, even though I know that's a bargain for
that
Charles,
If you find two of the 70-210 tele's. Let ME KNOW! I have been
looking and it's either going to be that one or a replacement for my
30-135 (which is really old and a manual lens...Golly you have to focus
and zoom it at the same time.)
John G - WA1JG
On 12/9/2013 5:56 PM,
Lodi was the last stop I made on this trip, so this is the last travelogue
blog post.
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/12/last-stop-lodi.html
Jostein
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Or come up with an arm and a leg and get the 60-250/4. Best lens I've ever
owned, and my editors agree.
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On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 ,
I'm posting the entire shoot from Saturday, some folks could not make
the Santa Claus parade and wanted to see them. About 161 for those
that have time:-)
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-parade/album/index.html
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The story is America from a fresh Norwegian perspective. Your photos are
stunning.
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On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote:
I'll think about it, Steve.
Jostein
-Opprinnelig melding- From: Steve Cottrell
Sent: Monday, December
On 9 December 2013 20:12, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently, trying to keep up with the list, not looking at
as many PESOs as I should.
Here's a promo video I completed recently for a sailing adventure
business - thoroughly enjoyed filming, despite
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 09:58:51PM +, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 8/12/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:
I feel that the collection of images I have gathered on this trip are not,
when seen together, coherent enough to tell a good story beyond being a
travelogue.
beautiful work! I like the incoming blurs - took a moment to spot
them. Is there some fill flash in that one? I am looking at the
double exposure effect of the two most prominent incoming birds What
lens(es) did you use for these?
Alastair
On 10 December 2013 12:26, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
The closest thing I could find to mission architecture in central San Diego;
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17618715
(K-5, DA 16-45)
Turned out it's a Nordstrom's.
Rick
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In the chill air of my walk Saturday morning, quiet rain was coming.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290890666/
Comments always appreciated. Thanks for looking!
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G
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290946473/
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Hmmm... it just looks like a cloudy day. Maybe darken the sky a bit?
Rick
On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
In the chill air of my walk Saturday morning, quiet rain was coming.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290890666/
Comments always appreciated. Thanks for
http://up.craigslist.org/grp/4235383318.html
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Nice stuff - but surprised that yours were shy - at the Bosque in New
Mexico they were really remarkably unshy
My fave is the trio.. for the wings of them all being in different
stages - I swear I took foraging 25 years ago - it seems they
pose a lot in that juxtaposition adn it's so
Well, I could. But it was a quiet rain coming, subtle, not dramatic. Darkening
the sky makes it far more dramatic than it was. I've already emphasized it
some. :-)
What happened, however, was that the wind moved the clouds to the north and
east. Instead of the rain we had strong sunshine a
Two antivirus programs on the same computer don't play well together.
When some programs update they have agreements with other companies and
will install a new antivirus (among other things) unless you are paying
real close attention and opt out. They'll also change your homepage and
your
On 12/9/2013 9:27 PM, CollinB wrote:
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I've never even seen a wolverine in North Carolina.
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Up here in Michigan Spartans like to keep a Wolverine or two as pets.
Paul via phone
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I know I said I was done with this thread. Apparently I lied. ;-)
But I had to jump in to completely disagree with your assertion wrt the
underlying premise.
To my mind the premise is that there is a huge disparity in the way that women
and men are portrayed in the media including the arts.
If you put one of those LED replacement bulbs in a 4 cell Maglight, it
will still light up really bright even if you do something stupid like
putting the last battery in backwards.
If you then leave it sitting for several months until you actually need
it, the other three batteries will be
On 09/12/2013 9:35 PM, knarf wrote:
I know I said I was done with this thread. Apparently I lied. ;-)
But I had to jump in to completely disagree with your assertion wrt the
underlying premise.
To my mind the premise is that there is a huge disparity in the way that women
and men are
As I told you last week, Kenichi and Shojiro finished Toronto's recent
messenger race in last place. Actually it was close, but Sho finished dead last
but still had a good time:
http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/12/last-place.html?m=1
Hard to win when you don't know the city or what needs
Very appealing. The clipper they used to circumsise the world? When are you
making the heavy weather version?
Alan C
-Original Message-
From: Steve Cottrell
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:12 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: OT - Sailing Video
Hi Listers
Been very busy recently,
The female breast is not a sexual object. It's merely a producer of infant
food. Nothing more.
Do you really believe that, Bill?
Cheers,
frank
Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/12/2013 9:35 PM, knarf wrote:
I know I said I was done with this thread. Apparently I lied. ;-)
Paul via phone
On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:35 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
I know I said I was done with this thread. Apparently I lied. ;-)
But I had to jump in to completely disagree with your assertion wrt the
underlying premise.
To my mind the premise is that there is a
I don't agonize but I am concerned. And my concern is that the blatant
sexualization of women in the media is degrading to them.
If you don't see it by now you never will.
Btw what you're doing is called the appeal to authority and it's a logical
fallacy.
Who says that? Please cite authors
Not to flog this dead horse, and I'll happily leave it alone after this,
but I do have to point out that in your original message on the subject
you said this:
But here's the rub: showing genitalia and breasts is sexual. It sexualizes the
women. Even if they consent to it they are being
Dear me! All this clipping and snipping!
Cheers,
frank
Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
snip The clipper they used to circumsise the world? snip
Alan C
-Original Message-
From: Steve Cottrell
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:12 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: OT - Sailing Video
Hi
On 12/9/2013 9:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
That is a recipe for victimhood. It's analogous to telling women not
to use the subway, or not to go out after dark. In other words, give
in to bullies rather than stand up for what's right, even at some
cost to yourself.
Do I understand you correctly, Bob,
On Dec 9, 2013, at 17:16 , John jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:
Charles,
If you find two of the 70-210 tele's. Let ME KNOW! I have been looking and
it's either going to be that one or a replacement for my 30-135 (which is
really old and a manual lens...Golly you have to focus and zoom it
Frank, purely for the matter of argument, not in any disrespect to you
or your reasoning, but didn't you just do the same (appeal to authority)?
I mean - who says that we're not hard wired as Paul indicated? Are there
studies to support that this specific part of our nature can be modified
Paul via phone
On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:50 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't agonize but I am concerned. And my concern is that the blatant
sexualization of women in the media is degrading to them.
If you don't see it by now you never will.
Btw what you're doing is
Paul via phone
On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:50 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't agonize but I am concerned. And my concern is that the blatant
sexualization of women in the media is degrading to them.
If you don't see it by now you never will.
Btw what you're doing is
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