Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Norm Baugher
Maybe the judges' eyes were just blurry... Norm frank theriault wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread frank theriault
On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Tom C
pretty pictures... Tom C. From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:39:41 -0400 You need to study the compositional aspects of many of those pictures

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Rebekah
The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... ;-) :o) that, and does a good subject make a good picture? rg2 On 9/13/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/07, Godfrey

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Tom C
On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... ;-) cheers, frank Let me be the first to weigh in on this then... What I say is art,

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread pnstenquist
Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's the compositon that makes a shot memorable. But a fascinating subject can achieve that as well. And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second look. In truth, there is no single, narrow definition. Paul -- Original

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Tom C
Nice and concise. I like it. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:43:09 + Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's the compositon

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread frank theriault
On 9/13/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the judges' eyes were just blurry... ...which would have made them look sharp? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Rebekah
works for me too :) rg2 On 9/13/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice and concise. I like it. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:43:09 +

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Tom!! Jack ;) --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... ;-) cheers, frank

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What is sheer beauty? G On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's the compositon that makes a shot memorable. But a fascinating subject can achieve that as well. And of course sheer beauty is always worth a second

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? Nikkala Stott. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread pnstenquist
It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is sheer beauty? G On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good pictures come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes it's

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The logic of your statement is that there is no definition of art, or beauty, that is not entirely subjective. Is that qualitative judgment, in the eye of the beholder, a product of nature or nurture? G On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is, of course, in the eye of

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread frank theriault
On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is sheer beauty? Perhaps the real question is what's beauty got to do with it? Lord knows, I take more than my share ugly photos that I think are none-the-less good. As to whether they're art, I'll leave to someone else to decide...

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Christian
Scott Loveless wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? Nikkala Stott. click - firefox - N-I-K-K-A-L-A S-T-O-T-T - enter click - images - scroll scroll... scroll... Ok, yes I can agree to that. :-) try Monica Bellucci -- Christian

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) Australian outback? I thought it was South Wales. ;-) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ --

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: What is sheer beauty? Nikkala Stott. Too bad. In another twenty years, sheer beauty will be somebody's mother-in-law. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Tom C wrote: On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... Like a well-written soap opera, the story

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) Australian outback? I thought it was South Wales. ;-) And I hope the context is to other sheep. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) Australian outback? I thought it was South Wales. ;-) There too. Lots of places, in fact. Q: Why do

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Tom C
Let me be the first to weigh in on this then... What I say is art, IS art. LOL No ego there, eh? :-) G If we each use it, I bet it's the only one we all can agree on. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) Australian outback? I thought it was South

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
A picture that pleases because it's attractive can be a good picture. As I said, it's certainly not the only path to solid and rewarding visual communication, but it's one path. One of many. In any artistic endeavor there should be no limits on the paths one may take to reach the goal.

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The logic of your statement is that there is no definition of art, or beauty, that is not entirely subjective. There are many definitions of art, and all of them are in some way subjective. But there can be a consensus. Is that

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The logic of your statement is that there is no definition of art, or beauty, that is not entirely subjective. There are many definitions of art, and all of them are in some way subjective. But there can be a consensus. Consensus does not

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
:o) that, and does a good subject make a good picture? No. It takes a photographer with a camera ;+] Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. But is it art? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
But is it art? I seem to remember someone calling a bottle of urine art. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/09/2007

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. People keep confusing the question of is it art? with is it any good?. They're separate

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Much modern art is a scam, just so much crap, (oh after my last post that's poignant). Drivel that's passed off as Art is simply a method of separating people with more money than brains, and that includes museum boards, from that excess of money Mark Roberts wrote: Digital Image Studio

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
: But is it art? I seem to remember someone calling a bottle of urine art. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/09/2007, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People keep confusing the question of is it art? with is it any good?. They're separate issues. Of course it can concurrently be art and a dog shit but practically I'd tend towards labeling it the latter if that's what it is. -- Rob

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Rebekah
I guess at that point it'd be shitty art. rg2 On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People keep confusing the question of is it art? with is it any good?. They're separate issues. Of course it can concurrently be

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread David Savage
At 05:24 AM 14/09/2007, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) No, that's shear beauty. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Strange I thought that would be sheared beauty... (Punch line from a very bad joke... Sheep Lie.) David Savage wrote: At 05:24 AM 14/09/2007, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C On 9/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... ;-) cheers, frank Let me be the first to weigh in on this then...

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread David Savage
At 05:30 AM 14/09/2007, Scott Loveless wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What is sheer beauty? In the Australian outback, I believe it refers to an unusually attractive sheep. ;-) Australian outback? I thought it was South Wales. ;-) We have a New South

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi What is sheer beauty? The dance of the seven veils ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Your statement presumes that pleasing equals beautiful, that things considered beautiful are art, and that a consensus of opinion on the beauty of something defines it as art. By your definition, everything can be art, because nearly

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's why the test of time is critical. Works that are appreciated and applauded over the centuries earn the right to be called art. Nothing current can rightfully claim that title until generations have arrived at a consensus opinion. Almost all serious art critics would agree. One can

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling Much modern art is a scam, just so much crap, (oh after my last post that's poignant). Drivel that's passed off as Art is simply a method of separating people with more money than brains, and that includes museum boards, from that excess of money Hey! Works for me.

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Unfortunately, being a Con artist is a talent I don't have, my character flaw of being honest, gets in the way,not all the time, just enough that crime wouldn't pay. Doug Franklin wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Drivel that's passed off as Art is simply a method

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... :o) that, and does a good subject make a good picture? Good pictures come in all

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Doug Franklin
John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Drivel that's passed off as Art is simply a method of separating people with more money than brains, and that includes museum boards, from that excess of money Hey! Works for me. Anyway, ... I'd like to make it work for me.;-D I'm

Third Party lenses for the Pentax Gallery

2007-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
I got a succinct Yes from Pentax to the question of the acceptability of third party lens use for Gallery images. Also, I just read the submission FAQ's which state; either Pentax or third party lenses may be used. Jack

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-02 Thread David J Brooks
I have not submitted anything since the first batch. Phe.:-) Dave On 9/1/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the hell is going on. One of the shots I mentioned the other day that had been declined (the sunset shot), I resubmitted, and it has now been accepted.

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say on accepted images. Kenneth Waller Yeah, peer voters can vote it in and the judges can vote it out. But can the judges vote it in if the peer voters vote it out? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread David Savage
I don't know what the hell is going on. One of the shots I mentioned the other day that had been declined (the sunset shot), I resubmitted, and it has now been accepted. ??? Cheers, Dave On 9/1/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Rebekah
maybe this discussion has prompted more voters among the photographers, or maybe more positive voting? who knows. Glad to hear your photo got in though. rg2 On 9/1/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the hell is going on. One of the shots I mentioned the other day

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! J --- John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say on accepted images. Kenneth Waller Yeah, peer voters can vote it in and the judges can vote it out. But can the judges vote it in if

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread P. J. Alling
The question should be; Will the judges even see the photo, if the peers vote it out? John Sessoms wrote: From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say on accepted images. Kenneth Waller Yeah, peer voters can vote it in and

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Rebekah
The question should be; Will the judges even see the photo, if the peers vote it out? I think not: Your votes are used to sort the images so that the best are presented to the acceptance committee. PENTAX makes the final determination of which images will appear in the Gallery. I'd guess

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yes! I would certainly hope so. Is you answer based on any communications with the gallery? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting Yes! J --- John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting maybe this discussion has prompted more voters among the photographers, or maybe more positive voting? who knows. Glad to hear your photo got in though. rg2 On 9/1/07

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Jack Davis
? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting Yes! J --- John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: The question should be; Will the judges even see the photo, if the peers vote it out? My understanding is that the peers can't actually vote it out. In other words, the peer voting is used to give some rough prioritizing before the judges do their thing. -- PDML

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread John Sessoms
Indeed, that's it exactly. From: P. J. Alling The question should be; Will the judges even see the photo, if the peers vote it out? John Sessoms wrote: From: Kenneth Waller I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say on accepted images. Kenneth Waller

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Now you are starting to see my complaint. I truly believe that a certain number of no votes will reject it and the judges will not see it. Basically, because the number of artists voting is much larger than the judges, you will always get a subset of them who will vote - luck of the draw on

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 04:07:44PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: The question should be; Will the judges even see the photo, if the peers vote it out? My understanding is that the peers can't actually vote it out. In other words, the peer voting is used to give some

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Rebekah
If a certain number of votes rejects an image before it gets to the judges, I think it would be good if there were some requirements to be met before one could vote. I signed up, and suddenly have the power to vote, so this suggests that anyone could simply sign up and start negatively voting

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had a conversation with John Carlson a while back regards the Pentax Photo Gallery submission voting process because I had/have misgivings about it and am very uncomfortable. This is an excerpt from his reply: --- We are using the voting process to help limit the number of images we

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Jack Davis
There may be a bit of..if mine can't make it in, this sure as hell can't. Call it resentment, but I imagine there is a lot of sincerity, also, involved. It becomes a comparison of subjects and styles rather than a wholly artistic/technical evaluation. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: One of the shots I mentioned the other day that had been declined (the sunset shot), I resubmitted, and it has now been accepted. ??? This has happened to others as well. It happened to Doug Brewer, for one. And I might note that it happened long before the peer voting

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Brian Walters
Well stated, Godfrey. That' how I feel about the process as well. If someone feels strongly about the rejection of a particular image there's nothing to stop a resubmission. As a few of us have found out, it may be accepted the second time around. Cheers Brian

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Too much work for me. I will submit one image now and then -- perhaps one every two weeks or so. But I don't have time to submit a large quantity of work. And I feel more comfortable editing my submissions down to a very few. Paul On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I had a

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-09-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks for passing this on. I'm happy with the opportunity to have some of my work presented on their web gallery. Me too. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting I had

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Rebekah
my involuntary reaction. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I don't pay much attention to the titles. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting Something

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I don't pay much attention to the titles. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting Something that surprises me a bit is my dismay

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Rebekah
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting Something that surprises me a bit is my dismay at many of the titles. I don't find myself reviewing the equipment as much as I would have expected. It seems the oblique nature of many titles portend the lack

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread frank theriault
On 8/31/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the judges decide things with respect to those images that survive our voting. I don't imagine it takes very many yes votes to get it before the 'judges' for a final decision.(?) Since you seem to know so much, Jack... (anyone else can

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread frank theriault
On 8/31/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It took about six days for a recent update to my profile to be approved and posted. So it appears to be nothing personal then. I was worried that it was yet more anti-Canadianism... ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 31, 2007, at 9:51 AM, frank theriault wrote: I only signed up this week - I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday that I submitted my Artist's Profile (har) and a few photos. By what others on this list have said, a few of my photos have been up for rating, so that's good. However, my

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe it's personal, but not anti-Canadian? frank theriault wrote: On 8/31/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It took about six days for a recent update to my profile to be approved and posted. So it appears to be nothing personal then. I was worried that it was

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread frank theriault
On 8/31/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's personal, but not anti-Canadian? I've never considered that option... ;-) -f -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread frank theriault
On 8/31/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we have to vote you in... I'm in big trouble then -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Doug Brewer
frank theriault wrote: However, my Artist's Profile has yet to be approved. What's the usual turn-around time for acceptance and me being seen as An Official Pentax Photographer g. Anyone have any thoughts/experience in this? thanks, frank we have to vote you in... -- PDML

Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens in one was a Sigma 180/3.5 Macro and the other a Voigtlander 125/2.5. So I looked at the rules again and they only

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread P. J. Alling
This seems bizarre since I would think that Pentax would want to highlight it's lenses... Bruce Dayton wrote: In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Rebekah
In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens in one was a Sigma 180/3.5 Macro and the other a Voigtlander 125/2.5. So I looked at the rules again and they only

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
Not necessarily - I have rarely had anyone ask me about lenses I am using - but very often which camera. Wouldn't it make some sense that someone could create a great image with a Pentax SLR and a third party lens? When I bought my Sigma 100-300/4 EX lens I was looking for high optical quality

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Tom Cakalic
genre. Since numerous Pentax lenses have been made by 3rd parties any way, it wouldn't seem to matter that much, IMO. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery rules Date

RE: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Tom Cakalic
You don't use exclusively Pentax lenses? ;-) Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Gallery rules Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:18:46 -0700 In running through some of the photos today

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Gallery rules Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:18:46 -0700 In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
Whenever I see a watermark, creative framing, etc., I give it a 'no'. Haven't checked lately, but seems the rules so instructed. Jack --- Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The

RE: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Gallery rules Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:18:46 -0700 In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens in one

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Brian Walters
I just checked - when you press the 'Upload button, the page where you select the images for uploading still clearly states ...must be taken by a PENTAX SLR with a PENTAX lens It will be interesting to see if Bruce's non-Pentax lens images are accepted. I've got a few in that category I'd

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What do you mean by creative framing, Jack? Personally, I don't vote on other people's submitted photographs. I feel it is unwise for submitters to be voting on other submitters' work, I'm very uncomfortable doing it. G On Aug 31, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Whenever I see a

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/09/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by creative framing, Jack? I assume he means boarders/virtual frames. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
Extra wide or bright obtrusive framing. Voting on other peoples submissions does take some self control. I'm kidding myself that I can be objective. I even surprise myself at times with some of my yes choices. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by creative

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
Right, Rob. :) Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/09/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by creative framing, Jack? I assume he means boarders/virtual frames. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Kenneth Waller
So the hypothetical question is - can enough no votes keep an image from being seen by the judges.? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting sounds logical to me, thanks :o) rg2 On 8/31/07

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Rebekah
, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the hypothetical question is - can enough no votes keep an image from being seen by the judges.? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting sounds

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Kenneth Waller
- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax Gallery rules In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two photos that were not shot with Pentax lenses. The person(s) who uploaded had clearly indicated that the lens in one was a Sigma 180/3.5 Macro and the other

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/8/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: It will be interesting to see if Bruce's non-Pentax lens images are accepted. I've got a few in that category I'd like to submit. Okay, while we're at this, I wonder what reaction *I* would get. (shut it Alling!) -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: Pentax Gallery rules

2007-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
originally only listed Pentax lenses. I haven't noted if that has changed. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax Gallery rules In running through some of the photos today (voting), I came across two

Re: Pentax Gallery voting

2007-08-31 Thread Kenneth Waller
I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say on accepted images. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting So the hypothetical question is - can enough no votes

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