RE: epson 2400

[jcoyle]

Godfrey's procedures are similar to mine, with the difference that my colour 
printers have always been used for both document and photo printing, thus they 
have been well-exercised. With one (very) early exception, I've always used HP 
printers: currently have a one-year-old HP7770 A3 which does an excellent job, 
and an HP1100 B Laser which I bought in 2007, and is still going strong.  I 
only ever use genuine HP inks and toner, which may help to explain their 
longevity.


John in Brisbane



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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi  
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Subject: Re: epson 2400

> Am 22.03.23 um 20:39 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my 
> desk is around 3 years.


Hmm. Back in the early '00s, I went through a couple of older Epson 13" dye ink 
printers … they both worked okay, but one of them died from the Piezography 
inkset I used clogging the heads permanently and the other was just starting to 
fail when the R2400 came out. I bought that (Oct 2005) and printed literally 
thousands of prints with it over the next 10-11 years. The P600 came out about 
then, and Ann needed a printer, cheap, so I gave her the R2400 and bought 
myself a P600. 

The R2400 died shortly after Ann got it (but I think she got the job she needed 
done with it) … I've always suspected that the shipment handling probably was 
the death factor. The P600 continues to work perfectly and has similarly 
produced a couple of thousand prints in the years I've had it. 

The keys to longevity with these devices is:

1- Keep them in use, don't let them sit and sit. I try to print at least two 
8x10 photographs every other week at least, exercising all the print head 
nozzles 

2- Don't run them with inks past the the ink's expiration date. Most of the 
problems I've had with any of my printers have been when I stuck an expired ink 
cartridge in because I needed to get something done and didn't have a fresh 
cartridge on hand. Because the cartridges are expensive and sometimes I'm not 
printing very much, I keep one spare set only on hand, ordering new 
replacements as they each become exhausted. I mark the cartridges so I know the 
expiration date of what's in the printer, and when I put a cartridge into 
service.

I don't have much more to add to help David's problem, unfortunately. It's been 
too long since I used an R2400 to remember the details of its maintenance and 
error indicators at this point. 

G
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Re: epson 2400

[ann sanfedele]

On 3/22/2023 5:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Am 22.03.23 um 20:39 schrieb Henk Terhell:
Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
is around 3 years.

Hmm. Back in the early '00s, I went through a couple of older Epson 13" dye ink 
printers … they both worked okay, but one of them died from the Piezography inkset I 
used clogging the heads permanently and the other was just starting to fail when the 
R2400 came out. I bought that (Oct 2005) and printed literally thousands of prints 
with it over the next 10-11 years. The P600 came out about then, and Ann needed a 
printer, cheap, so I gave her the R2400 and bought myself a P600.

The R2400 died shortly after Ann got it (but I think she got the job she needed 
done with it)..


 I think I printed my 2015 exhibit on your gift ... then I got another 
one after that... at a very good price (cheap as dirt ) from someone in 
NY on Craigs list.  Her aunt had bought a new 2400 and the aunt actually 
died herself  before she had a chance to use it.. it had been stored 
away and needed to be revived, which I did by following isntructins by a 
guy on You tube whise name started with an R ,, all I rememeber but it 
worked.   when THAT R2400 froze in place I just put it out on the street and
went back to an R220 that still purrs  .. if I need anything larger than 
an 8 1/2 x 11 (or 14) Bay photo through smugmug does it.


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Re: epson 2400

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> Am 22.03.23 um 20:39 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
> is around 3 years.


Hmm. Back in the early '00s, I went through a couple of older Epson 13" dye ink 
printers … they both worked okay, but one of them died from the Piezography 
inkset I used clogging the heads permanently and the other was just starting to 
fail when the R2400 came out. I bought that (Oct 2005) and printed literally 
thousands of prints with it over the next 10-11 years. The P600 came out about 
then, and Ann needed a printer, cheap, so I gave her the R2400 and bought 
myself a P600. 

The R2400 died shortly after Ann got it (but I think she got the job she needed 
done with it) … I've always suspected that the shipment handling probably was 
the death factor. The P600 continues to work perfectly and has similarly 
produced a couple of thousand prints in the years I've had it. 

The keys to longevity with these devices is:

1- Keep them in use, don't let them sit and sit. I try to print at least two 
8x10 photographs every other week at least, exercising all the print head 
nozzles 

2- Don't run them with inks past the the ink's expiration date. Most of the 
problems I've had with any of my printers have been when I stuck an expired ink 
cartridge in because I needed to get something done and didn't have a fresh 
cartridge on hand. Because the cartridges are expensive and sometimes I'm not 
printing very much, I keep one spare set only on hand, ordering new 
replacements as they each become exhausted. I mark the cartridges so I know the 
expiration date of what's in the printer, and when I put a cartridge into 
service.

I don't have much more to add to help David's problem, unfortunately. It's been 
too long since I used an R2400 to remember the details of its maintenance and 
error indicators at this point. 

G
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Re: epson 2400

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 22.03.23 um 20:39 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
is around 3 years.


I had a Epson A3+ photo printer with dye-based inks which worked fine
for years and gave beautiful prints until there was a problem with
banding and Epson repaired it to death.

They offered me a discount on a new 2400 and over the next few years it
cost me a fortune in ink with all the attemps to free its clogged
nozzles. In the end I sold it as defect on ebay.

Seeing the few decent prints I've got out of it, it would have been
cheaper to haven them oil-painted.

As much as I'd like to be able to do my own printing, I'm totally put
off photo printers for the rest of my days.

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Re: epson 2400

[Henk Terhell]

Yes, I believe you are right. And the ink may be drying out.
When I want to have prints of my photo's. which is not very often, I use
the internet services of the local shops which do it far better and
probably cheaper than I can.

Henk

Op wo 22 mrt 2023 om 20:59 schreef Comcast :

> I would guess that the lousy colors are the result of mismatched
> calibration and/or letting the printer (rather than photoshop or Lightroom)
> control color.
>
> Paul
>
> > On Mar 22, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Henk Terhell 
> wrote:
> >
> > Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my
> desk
> > is around 3 years.
> > My current printer for about a year is an Epson 2410 which prints B/W OK,
> > but has lousy colours.
> >
> > I just came across a new funny YouTube video 'Why Printers Are Designed
> To
> > Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 22:48 schreef David J Brooks :
> >
> >> I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
> >> 2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
> >> clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to
> flash
> >> alternatively.
> >>
> >> Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old
> >>
> >> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
> >> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
> >> ??
> >>
> >> Dave
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Re: epson 2400

[Comcast]

I would guess that the lousy colors are the result of mismatched calibration 
and/or letting the printer (rather than photoshop or Lightroom) control color.

Paul

> On Mar 22, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
> is around 3 years.
> My current printer for about a year is an Epson 2410 which prints B/W OK,
> but has lousy colours.
> 
> I just came across a new funny YouTube video 'Why Printers Are Designed To
> Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 22:48 schreef David J Brooks :
> 
>> I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
>> 2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
>> clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to flash
>> alternatively.
>> 
>> Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old
>> 
>> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
>> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
>> ??
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: epson 2400

[Henk Terhell]

'Why Printers Are Designed To Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ35eQ9N3iY

Op wo 22 mrt 2023 om 20:39 schreef Henk Terhell :

> Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
> is around 3 years.
> My current printer for about a year is an Epson 2410 which prints B/W OK,
> but has lousy colours.
>
> I just came across a new funny YouTube video 'Why Printers Are Designed To
> Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.
>
> Henk
>
> Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 22:48 schreef David J Brooks :
>
>> I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
>> 2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
>> clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to flash
>> alternatively.
>>
>> Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old
>>
>> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
>> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
>> ??
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: epson 2400

[Henk Terhell]

Never had any luck with printers and I estimate their life time on my desk
is around 3 years.
My current printer for about a year is an Epson 2410 which prints B/W OK,
but has lousy colours.

I just came across a new funny YouTube video 'Why Printers Are Designed To
Fail: The Frustrating Truth'.

Henk

Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 22:48 schreef David J Brooks :

> I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
> 2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
> clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to flash
> alternatively.
>
> Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old
>
> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
> ??
>
> Dave
>
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Re: epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

Thanks, saw that video, not my printer, i mis named the printer its the
Epson Stylus R2400 printer i;ll have a google look and see if mine has a
light sensor

Dave

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:02 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Could be th ‘light sensor’ needs a clean - as per this video:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCH4nCK1wo
>
> Easy job - you eny good with a small screwdriver?? ;-)
>
> Cot
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Re: epson 2400

[Steve Cottrell]

Could be th ‘light sensor’ needs a clean - as per this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCH4nCK1wo

Easy job - you eny good with a small screwdriver?? ;-)

Cot



On 14 Mar 2023, at 13:25, David J Brooks  wrote:

I did Cotty, :-) but when I power the unit on there is a click sound, then
the lights come on, the print head does not go through a cycle so I can't
use your suggestions. The internet shows there being a well of sorts that
can be accessed at the back, i have no such access door on the printer, so
i'm stymied.
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Re: epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

>
>
> Dave - you need to RTFM to find out the flashing light combo and what it
> means ;-)
>
> Cotty
>

I did Cotty, :-) but when I power the unit on there is a click sound, then
the lights come on, the print head does not go through a cycle so I can't
use your suggestions. The internet shows there being a well of sorts that
can be accessed at the back, i have no such access door on the printer, so
i'm stymied.

Dave

>
>
> On 8 Mar 2023, at 21:47, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
> I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
> edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
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Re: epson 2400

[Steve Cottrell]

One of the things that many people don’t realise is that whenever the print 
heads go through a cleaning process, they do it by squirting ink through the 
heads. The ink falls out of the bottom and into ‘wells’ usually packed with 
foam. These wells become full over the years until ink literally spills out of 
them and usually gets dragged around by the heads and you find streaks on the 
paper and all sorts of mess.

To empty the wells is simple. You’ll need a plastic syringe. Depending on 
printer model, I have found one of the best methods is to open the lid, switch 
the printer on, and as it goes through it’s initial setup process at each 
power-on event, the heads will move along the rail a short ways - it’s while 
they are away from the ‘parked’ position that you have your finger on the power 
switch at the wall - or have someone standing by ready - and just switch off at 
the wall. This will depower the machine with the heads out of position. I have 
done this on various printers over the years to no ill effect. After all, there 
has to be circuitry inside that can cope with a natural power failure without 
causing damage.

You then insert the end of your syringe into each well and suck up all that 
horrible black mess and empty into a container of your choice. You’ll be amazed 
at how much ink was sitting there lurking beneath your print heads! Give the 
area a good mop up with paper towel.

To finish, simply power back on and the heads will go through the setup process 
again and park where they normally do.

Some printers you can manually move the heads along the rail while the power is 
off, but by no means all.

Hope this helps someone!

Dave - you need to RTFM to find out the flashing light combo and what it means 
;-)

Cotty


On 8 Mar 2023, at 21:47, David J Brooks  wrote:

I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
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epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

I went to print a document this afternoon and when I turned on my Epson
2400 printer, the green light came on for a short moment, I heard a
clicking sound then the paper jam and low ink red lights started to flash
alternatively.

Anyone run into this issue with a 2400, its about 15 years old

I did notice a blob of coloured ink on a piece of foam on the left hand
edge of the printer head rail, could that be it
??

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Re: Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bill and Paul

I'll look at those solutions. I have some alcohol here somewhere, also have
rubbing alcohol too.:-)

Dave

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 2:17 PM Paul Sorenson  wrote:

> Could very well be build-up on the feed roller(s).  If the rollers don't
> grab the paper right in order to feed it into the correct position the
> sensor just tells the machine to eject the paper.
>
> On my R2000 there's only on driven roller, all the rest are merely
> guides.  Use an alcohol pad or small piece of cloth saturated with
> rubbing alcohol held against the feed roller(s) and press the paper feed
> button.  Do that a couple times and you should get the roller pretty
> clean.  Happens with all papers but is most prevalent when you print a
> bunch on matte paper.
>
> -p
>
> On 1/31/2020 8:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > For quite a while now when i go to print something on my Epson 2400 it
> just
> > feeds sheets through the machine. It does this for anywhere from 3-6
> times
> > and then it will grab the paper normally and print
> >
> > Any ideas as to why. Rolls dirty, wore out ?? communication issues.??
> >
> > Dave
> >
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Re: Epson 2400

[Paul Sorenson]

Could very well be build-up on the feed roller(s).  If the rollers don't 
grab the paper right in order to feed it into the correct position the 
sensor just tells the machine to eject the paper.


On my R2000 there's only on driven roller, all the rest are merely 
guides.  Use an alcohol pad or small piece of cloth saturated with 
rubbing alcohol held against the feed roller(s) and press the paper feed 
button.  Do that a couple times and you should get the roller pretty 
clean.  Happens with all papers but is most prevalent when you print a 
bunch on matte paper.


-p

On 1/31/2020 8:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

For quite a while now when i go to print something on my Epson 2400 it just
feeds sheets through the machine. It does this for anywhere from 3-6 times
and then it will grab the paper normally and print

Any ideas as to why. Rolls dirty, wore out ?? communication issues.??

Dave


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Re: Epson 2400

[Bill]

On 1/31/2020 8:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

For quite a while now when i go to print something on my Epson 2400 it just
feeds sheets through the machine. It does this for anywhere from 3-6 times
and then it will grab the paper normally and print

Any ideas as to why. Rolls dirty, wore out ?? communication issues.??

Dave



I'm not sure if this will help, but my Epson 4800 was doing the same 
thing and it turned out that a little flap in the paper ejection 
section, I presume it covers a sensor, had become dislodged. Putting it 
back where it belongs cured my printer. I believe that our printers are 
pretty much the same except for size.


bill

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Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

For quite a while now when i go to print something on my Epson 2400 it just
feeds sheets through the machine. It does this for anywhere from 3-6 times
and then it will grab the paper normally and print

Any ideas as to why. Rolls dirty, wore out ?? communication issues.??

Dave

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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

[David J Brooks]

Ya it took me a while to figure out Apple had the drivers. Me thinks
that was or is part of the probnlem. Downloaded now so we'll see.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Apple supplies the Epson printer drivers. Go to the Apple Store and click the 
> upgrades link. It should automatically check to see if you need them. Make 
> sure also that you have the icc paper profiles and that Lightroom is 
> controlling color. If you're set up to have the printer control color, you 
> won't get good results.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with 
>>> one attempt.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>
>> Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
>> i mentioned in an email i discovered i was downloading the scanner
>> drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
>> hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
>> nothing.LOL
>>
>> Dave
>>>
 On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

 At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
 those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
 I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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Apple supplies the Epson printer drivers. Go to the Apple Store and click the 
upgrades link. It should automatically check to see if you need them. Make sure 
also that you have the icc paper profiles and that Lightroom is controlling 
color. If you're set up to have the printer control color, you won't get good 
results.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with one 
>> attempt.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
> 
> Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
> i mentioned in an email i discovered i was downloading the scanner
> drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
> hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
> nothing.LOL
> 
> Dave
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
>>> those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
>>> I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
>>> printer driver for most of the choices. I also remember now how much I
>>> hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
>>> really.
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with one 
> attempt.
>
> Paul via phone

Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
i mentioned in an email i discovered i was downloading the scanner
drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
nothing.LOL

Dave
>
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>
>> At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
>> those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
>> I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
>> printer driver for most of the choices. I also remember now how much I
>> hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
>> really.
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with one 
attempt.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> 
> At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
> those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
> I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

[Zos Xavius]

At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> I've never used LR on Mac, so, I am not familiar with possible
> peculiarities. On Windows, it works this way:
> There are some LR print templates that set the page size, and some others
> that don't. So, it is a combination of choosing the template and "page
> setup" that is needed to be done in a particular order (to preserve or set
> the page size, and to get the template suitable for that size).

I think that relationship may be my problem. I'll have another look.
>
> I just looked, and my LR has a 4x6 and a 5x7 print templates (#1 and #3 on
> the list, respectively) that are for a letter-size paper.
> If you are choosing those, that's what might be happening.

My print dialogue box came up with 8x10 in the preset window. I have
removed that but it was still printing 8x10.

I thought i was downloading updated 2400 driver software but it seems
i was updating, many many times, my 2450 scanner drivers instead. I
noticed that this evening and have down loaded the updated driver for
the 2400. Who knew.:-)

Hopefully this will help.



Dave
>
> But if you were to choose, say 5"x7" under "page setup", and then choose
> "maximize size" standard LR template (toward the bottom of the list), -
> you'd get the largest printable size on a 5"x7".
>
> HTH,
>
> Igor
>
>
> David J Brooks Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:41:37 -0800 wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> Prior to my upgrading to OS 10.11.6 my printing from LR went mostly
> well. I now find that it will only print via LR as 8x10 even if i
> select the 4x6 or 5x7 templates. Not sure whats what here.
>
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

[Igor PDML-StR]

I've never used LR on Mac, so, I am not familiar with possible 
peculiarities. On Windows, it works this way:
There are some LR print templates that set the page size, and some others 
that don't. So, it is a combination of choosing the template and "page 
setup" that is needed to be done in a particular order (to preserve or set 
the page size, and to get the template suitable for that size).


I just looked, and my LR has a 4x6 and a 5x7 print templates (#1 and #3 on 
the list, respectively) that are for a letter-size paper.

If you are choosing those, that's what might be happening.

But if you were to choose, say 5"x7" under "page setup", and then choose 
"maximize size" standard LR template (toward the bottom of the list), - 
you'd get the largest printable size on a 5"x7".


HTH,

Igor


David J Brooks Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:41:37 -0800 wrote:

Hi all.

Prior to my upgrading to OS 10.11.6 my printing from LR went mostly
well. I now find that it will only print via LR as 8x10 even if i
select the 4x6 or 5x7 templates. Not sure whats what here.


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PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

[David J Brooks]

Hi all.

Prior to my upgrading to OS 10.11.6 my printing from LR went mostly
well. I now find that it will only print via LR as 8x10 even if i
select the 4x6 or 5x7 templates. Not sure whats what here.

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Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

I still have print problems in LR.

I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it printed fine.

I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set the
sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is print
about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

I'm doing something wrong obviosly

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Re: Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'd need to know more ... precisely what operation you performed ...  
to say anything.


Normally, I print 5x7s two-up on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper and cut them  
afterwards. I find that simpler. But I have printed 5x7 and other  
sizes with no problems.


G

On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I still have print problems in LR.

I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it  
printed fine.


I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set the
sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is print
about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

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Re: Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

I didi the conversions etc in LR then went to the print module. The
canvas was set at 8x10 as from my previous print job, that went
well.
As i only wanted one 5x7 and used the Epson 5x7 paper, i set the guide
lines on the canvas to 5x7 and then when the Epson print box popped up
i set the paper to 5x7 there as well.

Then all it would do is print part of the picture, about 3x4, in the
LRH of the paper.

Is there a fit to page option i may have missed or center on sheet.??

I'm sure i missed something here.,

Like i mentioned the 8x10 printed out fine with the canvas guide set to 8x10.

The template used was the single sheet one. I could print the double
5x7 and do it that way, i suppose.

Dave


Dave

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd need to know more ... precisely what operation you performed ... to say
 anything.

 Normally, I print 5x7s two-up on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper and cut them
 afterwards. I find that simpler. But I have printed 5x7 and other sizes with
 no problems.

 G

 On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 I still have print problems in LR.

 I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it printed
 fine.

 I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set the
 sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is print
 about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

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Re: Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

In LR, first use the Page Setup button to pick a printer and page size/ 
orientation. Then use the Printer Setup button to bring up the driver  
dialog and set up the printing specifics for the paper type and  
quality you want. Now set up the print formatting in LR... Layout,  
Overlays, Print Job.


Then print.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I didi the conversions etc in LR then went to the print module. The
canvas was set at 8x10 as from my previous print job, that went
well.
As i only wanted one 5x7 and used the Epson 5x7 paper, i set the guide
lines on the canvas to 5x7 and then when the Epson print box popped up
i set the paper to 5x7 there as well.

Then all it would do is print part of the picture, about 3x4, in the
LRH of the paper.

Is there a fit to page option i may have missed or center on sheet.??

I'm sure i missed something here.,

Like i mentioned the 8x10 printed out fine with the canvas guide  
set to 8x10.


The template used was the single sheet one. I could print the double
5x7 and do it that way, i suppose.

Dave


Dave

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
I'd need to know more ... precisely what operation you  
performed ... to say

anything.

Normally, I print 5x7s two-up on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper and cut  
them
afterwards. I find that simpler. But I have printed 5x7 and other  
sizes with

no problems.

G

On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I still have print problems in LR.

I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it  
printed

fine.

I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set  
the
sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is  
print

about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

I'm doing something wrong obviosly



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Re: Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[Walter Hamler]

You changed the paper size so the printer put a same ratio print to paper size.
Leave the paper size as 8x10 and when you specify 5x7 it will print 5x7.

Walt

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I didi the conversions etc in LR then went to the print module. The
 canvas was set at 8x10 as from my previous print job, that went
 well.
 As i only wanted one 5x7 and used the Epson 5x7 paper, i set the guide
 lines on the canvas to 5x7 and then when the Epson print box popped up
 i set the paper to 5x7 there as well.

 Then all it would do is print part of the picture, about 3x4, in the
 LRH of the paper.

 Is there a fit to page option i may have missed or center on sheet.??

 I'm sure i missed something here.,

 Like i mentioned the 8x10 printed out fine with the canvas guide set to 
 8x10.

 The template used was the single sheet one. I could print the double
 5x7 and do it that way, i suppose.

 Dave


 Dave

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd need to know more ... precisely what operation you performed ... to say
 anything.

 Normally, I print 5x7s two-up on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper and cut them
 afterwards. I find that simpler. But I have printed 5x7 and other sizes with
 no problems.

 G

 On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 I still have print problems in LR.

 I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it printed
 fine.

 I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set the
 sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is print
 about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

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Re: Lightroom printing and the Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Godfrey and Walter.

I'll try that Sunday for a print i want.

Dave

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You changed the paper size so the printer put a same ratio print to paper 
 size.
 Leave the paper size as 8x10 and when you specify 5x7 it will print 5x7.

 Walt

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I didi the conversions etc in LR then went to the print module. The
 canvas was set at 8x10 as from my previous print job, that went
 well.
 As i only wanted one 5x7 and used the Epson 5x7 paper, i set the guide
 lines on the canvas to 5x7 and then when the Epson print box popped up
 i set the paper to 5x7 there as well.

 Then all it would do is print part of the picture, about 3x4, in the
 LRH of the paper.

 Is there a fit to page option i may have missed or center on sheet.??

 I'm sure i missed something here.,

 Like i mentioned the 8x10 printed out fine with the canvas guide set to 
 8x10.

 The template used was the single sheet one. I could print the double
 5x7 and do it that way, i suppose.

 Dave


 Dave

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd need to know more ... precisely what operation you performed ... to say
 anything.

 Normally, I print 5x7s two-up on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper and cut them
 afterwards. I find that simpler. But I have printed 5x7 and other sizes with
 no problems.

 G

 On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 I still have print problems in LR.

 I printed out an 8x10 recently, set the dimensions to 8x10 and it printed
 fine.

 I tried printing out a 5x7 of a friends dog from thanksgiving, set the
 sizes in L;R and the Epson print window, but all it would do is print
 about 3x5 on the 5x7 paper.

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Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[David J Brooks]

Hi all.

Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
in Rgb.

For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
there before.

I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
about 3'.

Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any problems.??

I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was well.

This is frustrating.

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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the  
first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.  
You should always check them before making a print.

Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

Godfrey



On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hi all.

 Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
 One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
 in Rgb.

 For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
 print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
 I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
 upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
 there before.

 I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

 Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
 unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
 other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
 about 3'.

 Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any  
 problems.??

 I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was  
 well.

 This is frustrating.


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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[David J Brooks]

And thats when this started, from the customer file

Dave

On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PC XP home CS2.

 Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
 Adjust photo in PSCS2

 Print from Preview
 Colour Adobe rgb
 Let PS determine colours
 Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

 Print box is set up for paper etc.
 Advanced and turn of colour management

 Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
 the monitor.

 I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
 file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
 wanted a 4x6 print.

 When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
 to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
 everything

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
 
  Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
  first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
  You should always check them before making a print.
 
  Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
   Hi all.
  
   Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
   One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
   in Rgb.
  
   For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
   print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
   I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
   upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
   there before.
  
   I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
  
   Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
   unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
   other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
   about 3'.
  
   Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
   problems.??
  
   I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
   well.
  
   This is frustrating.
 
 
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the  
photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The  
customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,  
which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for  
printing..

If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you  
ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce  
exactly what you've done before.

I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart  
handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question  
against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change  
monitor/printer configurations.

G


On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 And thats when this started, from the customer file

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PC XP home CS2.

 Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
 Adjust photo in PSCS2

 Print from Preview
 Colour Adobe rgb
 Let PS determine colours
 Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

 Print box is set up for paper etc.
 Advanced and turn off colour management

 Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
 the monitor.

 I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
 file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
 wanted a 4x6 print.

 When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i  
 went
 to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
 everything

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

 Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
 first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With  
 Preview.
 You should always check them before making a print.

 Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

 Godfrey



 On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hi all.

 Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out  
 dark.
 One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm  
 printing
 in Rgb.

 For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my  
 settings in
 print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
 I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
 upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was  
 never
 there before.

 I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.

 Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
 unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.  
 and the
 other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
 about 3'.

 Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
 problems.??

 I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[David J Brooks]

Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.

I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.

Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.

Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
etc.

I'll try and re calibrate

Dave

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
 photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
 customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
 which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
 printing..

 If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
 ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
 exactly what you've done before.

 I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
 handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
 against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
 monitor/printer configurations.

 G


 On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  And thats when this started, from the customer file
 
  Dave
 
  On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  PC XP home CS2.
 
  Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
  Adjust photo in PSCS2
 
  Print from Preview
  Colour Adobe rgb
  Let PS determine colours
  Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
 
  Print box is set up for paper etc.
  Advanced and turn off colour management
 
  Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
  the monitor.
 
  I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
  file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
  wanted a 4x6 print.
 
  When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
  went
  to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
  everything
 
  Dave
 
  On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
 
  Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
  first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
  Preview.
  You should always check them before making a print.
 
  Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
  Hi all.
 
  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
  dark.
  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
  printing
  in Rgb.
 
  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
  settings in
  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
  never
  there before.
 
  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
 
  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
  and the
  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
  about 3'.
 
  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
  problems.??
 
  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
  well.
 
  This is frustrating.
 
 
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[David J Brooks]

I tyhink, maybe that file he sent me screwed something up.

I rebooted and uncliked the black point box and reprinted on of the horse shots.

Looks a lot better.

Something with NO coulr management in the return file might have set
up flags in the epson.

I 'm just quess on that though

Sorry to bother.

Dave

On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, i did keep the original file, he just wanted a file to use for
 a web thing, and he sent me back his adjutments.

 I also went and printed several other horse photos from different
 days, and they came out dark aswell. The photos them selves are nice
 and crisp and sharpness is right were it should be.

 Maybe i'll re calibrate and try again.

 Its almost as if they are being printed in sRGB colour space but i
 have them assigned to Adobe 1998 rgb in the file and print previews
 etc.

 I'll try and re calibrate

 Dave

 On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So have you tried going back to your original reference file for the
  photo, with the embedded profile, and printing from that? The
  customer file was evidently stripped of any profile information,
  which means you need to profile it properly and readjust it for
  printing..
 
  If you are not keeping a reference file for work you sell, well, you
  ought to be... It's the only way to assure that you can reproduce
  exactly what you've done before.
 
  I keep a reference image file of a grayscale and macbeth color chart
  handy so I can proof the printer in case there is any question
  against prior print runs, like when I change ink carts or change
  monitor/printer configurations.
 
  G
 
 
  On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
   And thats when this started, from the customer file
  
   Dave
  
   On 8/23/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PC XP home CS2.
  
   Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
   Adjust photo in PSCS2
  
   Print from Preview
   Colour Adobe rgb
   Let PS determine colours
   Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point
  
   Print box is set up for paper etc.
   Advanced and turn off colour management
  
   Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
   the monitor.
  
   I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
   file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
   wanted a 4x6 print.
  
   When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i
   went
   to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
   everything
  
   Dave
  
   On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc
  
   Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
   first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With
   Preview.
   You should always check them before making a print.
  
   Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.
  
   Godfrey
  
  
  
   On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
  
   Hi all.
  
   Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out
   dark.
   One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm
   printing
   in Rgb.
  
   For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my
   settings in
   print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
   I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
   upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was
   never
   there before.
  
   I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
  
   Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
   unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower.
   and the
   other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
   about 3'.
  
   Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
   problems.??
  
   I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
   well.
  
   This is frustrating.
  
  
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Re: Sorry, another Epson 2400 problem

[David J Brooks]

PC XP home CS2.

Calibrate monitor with Syder I.
Adjust photo in PSCS2

Print from Preview
Colour Adobe rgb
Let PS determine colours
Set paper profile and relative colourmatic  and black point

Print box is set up for paper etc.
Advanced and turn of colour management

Basically everything is the same as Saturday, but now its darker than
the monitor.

I can't believe this could do anything to anything, but i printed a
file that was sent to me by a customer. My file i sold him and he
wanted a 4x6 print.

When i loaded it, there was no colour info in the file and when i went
to print preview, all the settings were different, i had to reset
everything

Dave

On 8/23/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On what system? What is your printing workflow? etc

 Photoshop often seems to lose the settings at the driver level the
 first time you go to the Print driver dialog from Print With Preview.
 You should always check them before making a print.

 Lightroom retains all the driver settings properly, ime.

 Godfrey



 On Aug 23, 2007, at 7:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  Hi all.
 
  Last week my 2400 was working fine. This week its printing out dark.
  One print had an sRGB colour space look to it even though I'm printing
  in Rgb.
 
  For some reason, when i went to print this morning, all my settings in
  print preview were changed. I reset them and printed. Same results.
  I notice now, where i only had Adobe rgb 1998 as an option in the
  upper left drop down menu i know have an output option, that was never
  there before.
 
  I cleaned the nozzles and no effect.
 
  Only thing that has happened that i know about from last week is, i
  unplugged everything this morning for a small Thunder shower. and the
  other day lucy the kitten jumped from a ledge onto the printer top,
  about 3'.
 
  Any ideas what to do next,. Could that landing have caused any
  problems.??
 
  I ran my Spyder I before i did the prints last Friday and all was
  well.
 
  This is frustrating.


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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David Savage]

Have you tried using soft proofing in PS?

Open a photo that you have already printed. Then go to ViewProof
Setup then select Custom... and in the Device to Simulate drop down
list select the appropriate printer/paper profile, then click OK. You
can turn the soft proofing on  off by pressing Ctrl+Y (or cmd+Y on
the Mac).

If everything is going well you shouldn't see much of a change on
screen. But If you do you can adjust the image to suit with soft proof
on.

I use the soft proof technique to good effect.

Cheers,

Dave

On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have.

 The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the
 monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's
 settings are the same as mine.

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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David J Brooks]

No i have not Dave.

I'll try.

I calibrated the monitor Tuesday, again, and did some colour prints
today. The colours on the horse and jumps are fine, but nowi see the
blue sky has some greyish to it and my sand is darker than the
monitor.
I assign rgb colour space when printing.

Maybe its just a cleaning to fix up this snag, as the prints i made
two weeks ago were spot on.

I wonder if is should print in sRGB



Dave

On 7/11/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried using soft proofing in PS?

 Open a photo that you have already printed. Then go to ViewProof
 Setup then select Custom... and in the Device to Simulate drop down
 list select the appropriate printer/paper profile, then click OK. You
 can turn the soft proofing on  off by pressing Ctrl+Y (or cmd+Y on
 the Mac).

 If everything is going well you shouldn't see much of a change on
 screen. But If you do you can adjust the image to suit with soft proof
 on.

 I use the soft proof technique to good effect.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have.
 
  The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the
  monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's
  settings are the same as mine.

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Epson 2400 BW help

[David J Brooks]

Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.

Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same.

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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David Savage]

I'd love to help Dave, but my PC is still down for repairs.

Basically I don't do anything different when printing BW, than I do
when printing colour (ie select the paper profile in the print setup
window, let PS determine colours, colour management off in the print
driver)

No doubt someone will be able to help soon.

Cheers,

Dave

On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
 print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
 so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.

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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David J Brooks]

I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly.

Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and
the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up
from Mark a while back.

Coulor i'm very pleased with.

Dave

On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mac or PC?
 I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right 
 now.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
  print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
  so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
 
  Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same.
 
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[pnstenquist]

Mac or PC?
I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right 
now.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
 print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
 so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
 
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David Savage]

OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC):

PS print dialogue:
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg

Print driver dialogue
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg

Cheers,

Dave

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 Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
 print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[pnstenquist]

Like Dave Savage, I print in BW exactly the same way that I print in color. I'm 
using PSCS. I set the ICC profile to the paper type in Print With Preview and 
make sure the color space that I'm printing in agrees with that of the file.  
In the print box I select the paper type, then check to  make sure my print 
settings are Advanced with hi-speed off and usually Best or RIM? quality. I 
then go to Color Management and make sure it's turned off. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly.
 
 Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and
 the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up
 from Mark a while back.
 
 Coulor i'm very pleased with.
 
 Dave
 
 On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mac or PC?
  I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work 
  right 
 now.
  Paul
   -- Original message --
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   Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
   print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
   so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
  
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[ann sanfedele]

David J Brooks wrote:

I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly.

Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and
the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up
from Mark a while back.

Coulor i'm very pleased with.

Dave

This sounds pretty simplistic but while your image is in photoshop try 
just sliding the brightening lever
over a bit when ever you print bw - so that the image on the monitor is 
lighter than you want...
I have the 220 with the PC  -

Even when I covert to black and white I keep the profile RGB and adjust 
the color to have a slightly blue cast
on the monitor to get it to print to a cool bw.  I have no idea why this 
works

ann


On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Mac or PC?
I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right 
now.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.

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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David Savage]

Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never
use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality
enough to justify the extra ink it uses.

I've updated the screenshot.

Cheers,

Dave

On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use 
  (PC):
 
  PS print dialogue:
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg
 
  Print driver dialogue
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
 
  On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
   print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
   so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
  
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[pnstenquist]

I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use 
 (PC):
 
 PS print dialogue:
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg
 
 Print driver dialogue
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
  print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
  so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
 
  Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same.
 
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David J Brooks]

Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have.

The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the
monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's
settings are the same as mine.

Ann. I had to do that with my Canon, and hoped to avoid doing that
with the 2400, as it is almost a $1000 printer up here, i didi not
expect this snag.

I have just gone out and bought a pack of Prem glossy 4x6 sheets as to
not waste 8x10 sheets, and i'll have another go at this.

if i find i have to bring up the curves to a certain point on screen,
that gives me the look i want, can i make that a profile.??

PC XP home CS2
Mac Ibook G4 PSCS.

Dave

On 7/5/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never
 use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality
 enough to justify the extra ink it uses.

 I've updated the screenshot.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off.
  Paul
   -- Original message --
  From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use 
   (PC):
  
   PS print dialogue:
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg
  
   Print driver dialogue
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg
  
   Cheers,
  
   Dave
  
   On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
   
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[David J Brooks]

Oh, i had anothe look at the PS screen.

I see you have the relative colourmetric, black point box turned off.
I have that turned on.

Lets see if thats it.

Dave

On 7/5/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never
 use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality
 enough to justify the extra ink it uses.

 I've updated the screenshot.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off.
  Paul
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  From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use 
   (PC):
  
   PS print dialogue:
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg
  
   Print driver dialogue
   http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg
  
   Cheers,
  
   Dave
  
   On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they
print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here,
so i can see where i'm still going wrong here.
   
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Re: Epson 2400 BW help

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I use exactly the same setup to print BW or Color from Photoshop CS2  
on Mac OS X. The Print W Preview dialog and Epson R2400 printer  
dialog settings are detailed here:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/R2400-CS2-print/

Only changes in recent months is that I have some of Epson's optional  
paper profiles for Enhanced Matte and Velvet Fine Art available now.  
I find very very little difference using them compared to the  
original profiles shows in this page.

(I tested using Best Photo with High Speed turned on and off. No  
difference on an A3 print that I could see, but it took twice/three  
times as long to print with it off.)

I've never printed with Glossy paper or the Photo Black ink with this  
printer, always with matte papers and the Matte Black ink.

Godfrey



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Re: OS X and the Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

Never mind. I quess they just install them selves as they see fit.

I can see them now.

Dave

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 Ok, i have finally got a round and installed the 2400 on the ibook G4.

 I also downloaded the latest ICC profiles as prompted in the CD. Now i
 ahve to ask, were do i put them. I cannot seem to find anywere on the
 harddrive, any Epson profiles, but they are they when i do a print
 preview of an image. Its the older ones i am assuming as the names are
 different.

 Can someone tell me were they go, and be gentle.:)

 OS X 10.4 ish and PSCS if that matters.

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OS X and the Epson 2400

[David J Brooks]

Ok, i have finally got a round and installed the 2400 on the ibook G4.

I also downloaded the latest ICC profiles as prompted in the CD. Now i
ahve to ask, were do i put them. I cannot seem to find anywere on the
harddrive, any Epson profiles, but they are they when i do a print
preview of an image. Its the older ones i am assuming as the names are
different.

Can someone tell me were they go, and be gentle.:)

OS X 10.4 ish and PSCS if that matters.

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[mike wilson]

David Savage wrote:

 On 12/28/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
David Savage wrote:


I had a blocked nozzle last week.

We know sod-all about space travel but if you've got a blocked nozzle
we're your lads!
 
 
 Geez you are a fan Mark. I had to Google that one.

As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are 
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Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Godders. That's exactly how I set up now, although with  
Premium Luster Prints look great.
Paul
On Dec 28, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I already read that you solved your immediate problem. If you're
 printing from Photoshop, you should adopt a fully color-manage print
 workflow using Photoshop as the color controller. As posted in some
 prior message:

 0
   - calibrate screen
   - Photoshop color settings to North America Prepress defaults

 1 Print with Preview
 Color management section
 - Photoshop manages colors
 - pick profile for the paper you're using from the popup...
 eg: SPR2400 Enhanced Matte if you're using Epson Enhanced Matte
 and the Matt Black inkset
 - Relative Colormetric
 - check Black point compensation on
 - click Print button

 3 Epson driver dialog
 - Print Settings:: pick Enhanced Matte Paper, Color, Advanced mode
 - Color Management:: pick Off (no Color Adjustment)

 Godfrey


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 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

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David Savage wrote:

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[David Savage]

On 12/28/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

 I had a blocked nozzle last week.

 We know sod-all about space travel but if you've got a blocked nozzle
 we're your lads!

Geez you are a fan Mark. I had to Google that one.

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OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work  
with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly  
with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with  
BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming  
up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a  
workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned  
off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can  
someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and  
error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

Macintosh, btw.
On Dec 27, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Scott Loveless]

Can't help with your color problems.  I usually print my BW inkjet
prints black ink only.  Got any plans for the 2200?

On 12/27/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[David Savage]

I have no idea if this will help, as I'm using a Windows box  CS2,
but here is my print setup:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_1.jpg
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_2.jpg

The big thing is to turn colour management off in the print driver.

These are the same settings I use for BW  I get no colour casts.

HTH

Cheers,

Dave

On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

I'll probably see if Epson can fix the 2200. If so, I might convert  
it to a grayscale inkset.
On Dec 27, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 Can't help with your color problems.  I usually print my BW inkjet
 prints black ink only.  Got any plans for the 2200?

 On 12/27/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks David. I really need Mac settings. However, I'm getting closer  
by trial and error. I may have it now, but I'd still love to get  
someone's Mac settings for CS1.
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 7:59 PM, David Savage wrote:

 I have no idea if this will help, as I'm using a Windows box  CS2,
 but here is my print setup:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_1.jpg
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_2.jpg

 The big thing is to turn colour management off in the print driver.

 These are the same settings I use for BW  I get no colour casts.

 HTH

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

My latest print is looking quite good. It's a gang print of 6x4 BW and 
color images on 13x19 paper. The color looks excellent. The BW is just 
slightly warmer than I'd like. My BW is all in RGB. Perhaps I should be 
converting it to grayscale? My settings now in Photoshop Color Settings 
are US Prepress Defaults workflow with Adobe 98 Working space for RGB, 
adobe (ACE) engine and perceptual intent. In print with preview. I have 
color management set to document: adobe 98. Print space is set to 
SPR2400 PremiumLuster. Intent is set to perceptual. And I have checked 
the box for Use black point compensation. Anything here that isn't 
kosher?
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Thanks David. I really need Mac settings. However, I'm getting closer
 by trial and error. I may have it now, but I'd still love to get
 someone's Mac settings for CS1.
 Paul
 On Dec 27, 2006, at 7:59 PM, David Savage wrote:

 I have no idea if this will help, as I'm using a Windows box  CS2,
 but here is my print setup:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_1.jpg
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/R2400PS_2.jpg

 The big thing is to turn colour management off in the print driver.

 These are the same settings I use for BW  I get no colour casts.

 HTH

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[David Savage]

That all looks fine to me. What are your settings in the Page setup dialogue

I'm surprised your having problems with BW. I got great results, free
of colour casts, straight out of the box.

Cheers,

Dave


On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My latest print is looking quite good. It's a gang print of 6x4 BW and
 color images on 13x19 paper. The color looks excellent. The BW is just
 slightly warmer than I'd like. My BW is all in RGB. Perhaps I should be
 converting it to grayscale? My settings now in Photoshop Color Settings
 are US Prepress Defaults workflow with Adobe 98 Working space for RGB,
 adobe (ACE) engine and perceptual intent. In print with preview. I have
 color management set to document: adobe 98. Print space is set to
 SPR2400 PremiumLuster. Intent is set to perceptual. And I have checked
 the box for Use black point compensation. Anything here that isn't
 kosher?
 Paul

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

My page setup dialogue doesn't allow for much. I have it set for  
Super B Paper, Epson 2400 printer.
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:01 PM, David Savage wrote:

 That all looks fine to me. What are your settings in the Page  
 setup dialogue

 I'm surprised your having problems with BW. I got great results, free
 of colour casts, straight out of the box.

 Cheers,

 Dave


 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My latest print is looking quite good. It's a gang print of 6x4 BW  
 and
 color images on 13x19 paper. The color looks excellent. The BW is  
 just
 slightly warmer than I'd like. My BW is all in RGB. Perhaps I  
 should be
 converting it to grayscale? My settings now in Photoshop Color  
 Settings
 are US Prepress Defaults workflow with Adobe 98 Working space for  
 RGB,
 adobe (ACE) engine and perceptual intent. In print with preview. I  
 have
 color management set to document: adobe 98. Print space is set to
 SPR2400 PremiumLuster. Intent is set to perceptual. And I have  
 checked
 the box for Use black point compensation. Anything here that isn't
 kosher?
 Paul

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[David Savage]

When you click on page set up is there a box marked printer or similar?

In Windows I select Page set upPrinterProperties which opens the
printers driver dialogue box. This is where my lack of Mac OS
knowledge comes into play.

New toys are fun hey?! :-)

Dave



On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My page setup dialogue doesn't allow for much. I have it set for
 Super B Paper, Epson 2400 printer.
 Paul
 On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:01 PM, David Savage wrote:

  That all looks fine to me. What are your settings in the Page
  setup dialogue
 
  I'm surprised your having problems with BW. I got great results, free
  of colour casts, straight out of the box.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
 
 
  On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My latest print is looking quite good. It's a gang print of 6x4 BW
  and
  color images on 13x19 paper. The color looks excellent. The BW is
  just
  slightly warmer than I'd like. My BW is all in RGB. Perhaps I
  should be
  converting it to grayscale? My settings now in Photoshop Color
  Settings
  are US Prepress Defaults workflow with Adobe 98 Working space for
  RGB,
  adobe (ACE) engine and perceptual intent. In print with preview. I
  have
  color management set to document: adobe 98. Print space is set to
  SPR2400 PremiumLuster. Intent is set to perceptual. And I have
  checked
  the box for Use black point compensation. Anything here that isn't
  kosher?
  Paul
 
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

I solved it. The printer I bought was a display model. (I got it for  
a very good price, considering it was from a retail camera store.)  
The ink had been loaded some time ago. And the nozzles were clogged.  
A nozzle cleaning made everything perfect. Just made a beautiful  
print. I'm a happy man. Thanks for your help.
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:43 PM, David Savage wrote:

 When you click on page set up is there a box marked printer or  
 similar?

 In Windows I select Page set upPrinterProperties which opens the
 printers driver dialogue box. This is where my lack of Mac OS
 knowledge comes into play.

 New toys are fun hey?! :-)

 Dave



 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My page setup dialogue doesn't allow for much. I have it set for
 Super B Paper, Epson 2400 printer.
 Paul
 On Dec 27, 2006, at 9:01 PM, David Savage wrote:

 That all looks fine to me. What are your settings in the Page
 setup dialogue

 I'm surprised your having problems with BW. I got great results,  
 free
 of colour casts, straight out of the box.

 Cheers,

 Dave


 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My latest print is looking quite good. It's a gang print of 6x4 BW
 and
 color images on 13x19 paper. The color looks excellent. The BW is
 just
 slightly warmer than I'd like. My BW is all in RGB. Perhaps I
 should be
 converting it to grayscale? My settings now in Photoshop Color
 Settings
 are US Prepress Defaults workflow with Adobe 98 Working space for
 RGB,
 adobe (ACE) engine and perceptual intent. In print with preview. I
 have
 color management set to document: adobe 98. Print space is set to
 SPR2400 PremiumLuster. Intent is set to perceptual. And I have
 checked
 the box for Use black point compensation. Anything here that isn't
 kosher?
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[David Savage]

Excellent.

I should have thought of that, as I had a blocked nozzle last week.

Cheers,

Dave



On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I solved it. The printer I bought was a display model. (I got it for
 a very good price, considering it was from a retail camera store.)
 The ink had been loaded some time ago. And the nozzles were clogged.
 A nozzle cleaning made everything perfect. Just made a beautiful
 print. I'm a happy man. Thanks for your help.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Mat Maessen]

On 12/27/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The ink had been loaded some time ago. And the nozzles were clogged.
 A nozzle cleaning made everything perfect. Just made a beautiful
 print. I'm a happy man. Thanks for your help.

On my Epson, if you hold down the paper feed/nozzle cleaning button as
you turn on the power, it will print a nozzle check page. Mine clogs
so often, that I do this as a matter of course whenever I turn it on.

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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

That should be: Inspecting the 2400 print with reading glasses...
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Well, one wouldn't expect it with a new printer. But I knew it had
 been a display model. Should have thought of that right off. In any
 case, I printed a gang sheet that I had printed on the 2200 just a
 couple of days ago. Inspecting the 2500 print with reading glasses
 showed it to have slightly better sharpness. More importantly, the BW
 frames were much cleaner. No color cast whatsoever. I'm very pleased.
 Paul
 On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:17 PM, David Savage wrote:

 Excellent.

 I should have thought of that, as I had a blocked nozzle last week.

 Cheers,

 Dave



 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I solved it. The printer I bought was a display model. (I got it for
 a very good price, considering it was from a retail camera store.)
 The ink had been loaded some time ago. And the nozzles were clogged.
 A nozzle cleaning made everything perfect. Just made a beautiful
 print. I'm a happy man. Thanks for your help.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Paul Stenquist]

Well, one wouldn't expect it with a new printer. But I knew it had  
been a display model. Should have thought of that right off. In any  
case, I printed a gang sheet that I had printed on the 2200 just a  
couple of days ago. Inspecting the 2500 print with reading glasses  
showed it to have slightly better sharpness. More importantly, the BW  
frames were much cleaner. No color cast whatsoever. I'm very pleased.
Paul
On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:17 PM, David Savage wrote:

 Excellent.

 I should have thought of that, as I had a blocked nozzle last week.

 Cheers,

 Dave



 On 12/28/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I solved it. The printer I bought was a display model. (I got it for
 a very good price, considering it was from a retail camera store.)
 The ink had been loaded some time ago. And the nozzles were clogged.
 A nozzle cleaning made everything perfect. Just made a beautiful
 print. I'm a happy man. Thanks for your help.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I already read that you solved your immediate problem. If you're  
printing from Photoshop, you should adopt a fully color-manage print  
workflow using Photoshop as the color controller. As posted in some  
prior message:

0
  - calibrate screen
  - Photoshop color settings to North America Prepress defaults

1 Print with Preview
Color management section
- Photoshop manages colors
- pick profile for the paper you're using from the popup...
eg: SPR2400 Enhanced Matte if you're using Epson Enhanced Matte  
and the Matt Black inkset
- Relative Colormetric
- check Black point compensation on
- click Print button

3 Epson driver dialog
- Print Settings:: pick Enhanced Matte Paper, Color, Advanced mode
- Color Management:: pick Off (no Color Adjustment)

Godfrey


On Dec 27, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I bought an Epson 2400. I'm having trouble getting it set up to work
 with PhotoShop CS1. My 2200 ColorSynch setup, which worked flawlessly
 with the 2200, doesn't seem to work with the 2400. I'm testing with
 BW, since that immediately shows a color cast. Everything is coming
 up Sepia. I tried switching to North American prepress default as a
 workflow and Adobe 98 as a colorspace with color management turned
 off in the Epson print window. BW prints still coming up sepia. Can
 someone give me their settings? That could save me hours of trial and
 error, not to mention many dollars worth of paper.
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Re: OT: Need Help with Epson 2400 setup for CS1

[Brian Walters]

Hope its cleared up. Did you take some sort of medication?


Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Excellent.
 
 I should have thought of that, as I had a blocked nozzle last
 week.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave



Cheers

Brian

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