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On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Søren Brier
<sb@cbs.dk<mailto:sb@cbs.dk>> wrote:
Jon, List
But if the Logos is logic as semiotics and is emerg
Jon, List
But if the Logos is logic as semiotics and is emerging as thirdness or the
tendency to take habits in all nature of Secondness as Stjernfelt argues so
Well in Natural propositions and feeling is present in all matter (Hylozoism)
and all three categories arise as universes from pure
Jeff, list
Thanks. That is also my impression, but I was not sure.
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22. oktober 2016 05:29
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Søren, List:
SB
are insufficient to relate the consequences to the
antecedent causes. In other words and symbols and indexes and icons, the atomic
numbers are facts and the addition of atomic numbers follow the conservation
laws of physics.
Cheers
Jerry
On Oct 21, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Søren Brier <sb@cbs
Dear Jerry
I think Einstein’s point is mine in Cybersemiotics. It seems impossible to
reduce one aspect of reality to any of the others.
Søren
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 20:05
To: John F Sowa
Cc: Peirce List
Subject:
, Søren Brier <sb@cbs.dk<mailto:sb@cbs.dk>>
wrote:
I can find no easy way from phenomenology alone - not even from Peirce’s
triadic phaneroscophy - to the reality of an outer world and other embodied
conscious subjects. I do not think Peirce solves this problem. Do you?
Jon
Yes it is both efficient and final causation and how they are related. I do
know Peirce has several papers on that. But still how does it relate to the
world as we know it today? Or rather how can we make a postmodern
transdisciplinary framework that allows us to combine them?
. oktober 2016 17:20
To: Peirce List
Cc: Søren Brier
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Soren:
Would it be fair to say that you seek to understand how CSP’s writings relate
to scientific causality?
I think it is fair to ask if Jon’s views on engineering wrt CSP
/conference2005/pdf/nicolescu.pdf and he is
pretty Peirce inspired and combines that with his knowledge of quantum physics
and philosophy.
Best
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 16:11
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Sorry my last mail was an answer to Jerry not Jeff
Søren
From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 01:17
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Jon Alan Schmidt; Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Soren, list:
I
of matter. How do we get from the
three universes to the world we are in today, with its physically real problem
of global warming?
Best
Søren
From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 01:17
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Jon Alan Schmidt; Peirce-L
this is possible without a recognition of the
independent reality of embodied conscious subjects living in language and
culture.
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 20. oktober 2016 18:22
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes
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From: Søren Brier <sb@cbs.dk<mailto:sb@cbs.dk>>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 5:56 AM
To: 'Jon Alan Schmidt'; Gary Richmond
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
I suggest that in a phaneroscopic process ontology the categories will develop
into worlds.
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 20. oktober 2016 15:34
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's
Dear Gary, Jon and list
I suggest that the problem is with a phenomenological foundation of his
semiotics and Peirce’s attempt to build a realistic ontology. In the
phenomenological view there is no basic difference between experience and the
outside world because there is no fundamental
Secondness.
Best
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt [mailto:jonalanschm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 12. oktober 2016 04:28
To: Søren Brier
Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Cosmology
Søren, List:
It is interesting that you mentioned
.com]
Sent: 12. oktober 2016 04:09
To: Søren Brier
Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's Cosmology
Søren, List:
SB: I think your problem is solved by Panentheism, which accept the divine to
be both transcendent and immanent.
Again, I am now leaning against trying to
Dear Jon
I have discussed this with Edwina before. I think the correct label for Peirce
is a Hylozoism or Hylopathism inspired by Aristotle, which only indicates that
matter is alive and in combination with his synechism that matter is a living
field.
Peirce writes: Has Time, or has Space,
Dear Helmut
I think your problem is solved by Panentheism, which accept the divine to be
both transcendent and immanent. Thus the Tohu va Bohu or pure Zero is the
transcendent, which as the first step in creation produces Firstness as real
possibilities of forms of existence, combined with the
. Rather experience is the prerequisite for
producing geometrical explanations.
Best
Søren
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com]
Sent: 12. september 2016 00:02
To: Søren Brier
Cc: VINOD KUMAR SEHGAL; Peirce List
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [Sadhu
'Semiotic realism' is good - could we extend it to 'triadic semiotic process
realism' ?
Søren
-Original Message-
From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sent: 23. august 2016 23:27
To: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L]
I do also think that this must be what synechism means. But what then is the
habit that drives evolution and the growth if mind. I have sometime compared it
to Schopenhauer’s Will.
Søren
From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca]
Sent: 22. august 2016 18:40
To: Søren Brier
Dear Jon and Edwina
In a way I think that you are both right. But I think the focus on if matter or
mind was first is not very fruitful and may come from our dualistic upbringing.
I view Peirce as a synechist triadic process philosopher. He has accepted the
term objective idealist for his
I think that Peirce and Heidegger has a lot in common: 1. A phenomenological
foundation in their philosophies, which Peirce calls phaneroscophy and 2. They
are both process philosophers, an aspect that separates them from the young
Husserl, with his absolutism. 3. The dynamical Dasein of
the Sadhu Sanga
site - and I don't think the Peirce-L site should be an appendage of that site.
Edwina
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From: Edwina Taborsky<mailto:tabor...@primus.ca>
To: Søren Brier<mailto:sb@cbs.dk> ;
peirce-l@list.iupui.edu<mailto:peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Sent
Dear Gary
My question was to a Bhakti Vedanta apprentice who believe that the absolute
truth was to be found in the Vedas and therefore doubted science, evolution and
democracy. Although the quotes you have found are interesting I do not quite
see how they answer the question?
Fra: Gary Richmond [mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com]
Sendt: 30. januar 2016 18:20
Til: Peirce-L
Cc: Søren Brier
Emne: Can we encompass spirituality, democracy and science in one culture?Re:
[PEIRCE-L] Individual universal spirituality and mutual respect.
Stephen, List,
I have taken the liberty
papers on this to Cybernetics &
Human Knowing. A special issue if there are several that want to attempt this
difficult area.
Best
Søren
Fra: John Collier [mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sendt: 30. december 2015 19:09
Til: Søren Brier; Stephen C. Rose; Peirce List
Emne
not.
Søren
Fra: John Collier [mailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sendt: 30. december 2015 11:01
Til: Søren Brier; Stephen C. Rose; Peirce List
Emne: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Triadic Philosophy -- Sign
Søren,
I have argued for some time that if Peircean thirds are irreducible they must
: PEIRCE-L
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8949] Re: Terms, Propositions, Arguments
(I broke out your responses to make them a little easier)
On Nov 24, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Søren Brier <sb@cbs.dk<mailto:sb@cbs.dk>>
wrote:
Which order are you speaking of here? Plo
Søren
Fra: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com]
Sendt: 20. november 2015 21:27
Til: PEIRCE-L
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8949] Re: Terms, Propositions, Arguments
On Nov 20, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Søren Brier <sb@cbs.dk<mailto:sb@cbs.dk>>
wrote:
I agre
Dear Clark
As I understand it Peirce’s God develops according to Agapism or the growth of
love and reasonability. Here he has some similarity to Neoplatonism, but it is
a universal philosophy of a religion of love combining mystical Buddhism and
Christianity.
Best
Søren
Fra:
I think that that what Piece was looking for was the connection between the
evolving universe and the rationality of the human way thinking. I have tried
to explain more here
Dear Stephen
I have tried to give an interpretation of Peirce's view on what we are immersed
in here Brier, S. (2014). Pure Zero, pp 207 in Charles Sanders Peirce in His
Own Words: 100 Years of Semiotics, Communication and Cognition. Editors:
Torkild Thellefsen and Bent Sørensen. Series:
Congratulations for getting there after all those years and hard work. Look
forward to read it.
Best
Søren
Fra: g...@gnusystems.ca [mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca]
Sendt: 6. september 2015 14:44
Til: 'Peirce-L'
Emne: [PEIRCE-L] book launching: Turning Signs
Hello friends (and
Dear Steven
Are you aware of the work of Unger and Smolin where they argue for the
evolution of laws?
The Singular Universe….THE SINGULAR UNIVERSE AND THE REALITY OF TIME
Cambridge University Press, November 30, 2014.
Synopsis
This is a book on the nature of time and the basic laws of nature.
Dear Steven
Not quantum mechanics as far as I can see.
Søren
Fra: stevenzen...@gmail.com [mailto:stevenzen...@gmail.com] På vegne af Steven
Ericsson-Zenith
Sendt: 12. marts 2015 03:55
Til: Edwina Taborsky
Cc: Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Jon Awbrey; Peirce List
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re:
Howard, Frederik and list
I agree with Ben that Peirce’s philosophy do have something to contribute to
the understanding of Quantum physics. Peirce’s idea of Firstness, Secondness
and thirdness combined with synechism and Haecceity can deal with a lot of the
problems in the measurement
Dear Clark and list
My I add a few thoughts? I agree that sign are reals, but when they manifests
as tokens their Secondness must enter the world of physics and thermodynamics
must apply. It is work to make signs emerge in non-verbal communication or as
language from ones feeling and thoughts.
forms I do not know.
And I do not know any relevant Peirce text.
Søren
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
Sendt: 28. juni 2014 21:44
Til: Søren Brier
Cc: Evgenii Rudnyi; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The second law
Dear Evgenii and list
That fact is - as Schrödinger and Prigogine points out - that more and more
complicated self-organized systems develop feeding on the general growth of
entropy in the universe. These systems order more and more of their
surroundings in order to support and prolong their
...@ukzn.ac.za]
Sendt: 17. juni 2014 16:28
Til: Søren Brier; John Collier; Edwina Taborsky; Catherine Legg; Gary Richmond;
g...@gnusystems.ca
Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: Re: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and
religion: text 1
Well, Søren, I would agree, as implicitly
. They might even be obliged to integrate semiotics,
which most of them considers to unscientific!
Cheers
Søren
Fra: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au]
Sendt: 4. juni 2014 08:26
Til: Søren Brier; 'Helmut Raulien'; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: The edifice
Sorry for this mistake. It was supposed to be an internal mail to a Danish
linguistic specialist.
Søren
Fra: Søren Brier [mailto:sb@cbs.dk]
Sendt: 4. juni 2014 17:12
Til: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: [PEIRCE-L] Japan?
Hej Per
Jeg fik slet ikke hørt hvordan Japan rejsen gik? Jeg håber
19, 2014, Søren Brier sb@cbs.dkmailto:sb@cbs.dk
wrote:
1. God is real but does not exist: so the best way to worship him is through
the religion of science
I thought this sums up nicely Section 9.6 in Kees' book and was a good way to
start the discussion of: God, science and religion
PM, Søren Brier wrote:
I did read this long post and in the end I did not find a question for me and
my subject. So what question did you mean?
Søren
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From: Søren Brier [sb@cbs.dk]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 5:52 AM
To: charles murray; Peirce List
Subject: SV: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on Mind, self
...@gmail.com] På vegne af Steven
Ericsson-Zenith
Sendt: 1. juni 2014 19:57
Til: Søren Brier
Cc: Steven Ericsson-Zenith; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; Kathrine Elizabeth Lorena
Johansson; Claudia Jacques (c...@claudiajacques.org); Elisabeth Sørup; Seth
Miller; Leslie Combs
Emne: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar
do look forward to read your development of these thoughts in an article.
Cheers
Søren
Fra: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com]
Sendt: 30. maj 2014 20:48
Til: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce List; charles murray
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9
have not been able to put my
finger on it. Maybe you can?
Cheers
Søren
Fra: stevenzen...@gmail.com [mailto:stevenzen...@gmail.com] På vegne af Steven
Ericsson-Zenith
Sendt: 31. maj 2014 01:19
Til: Søren Brier
Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; Kathrine Elizabeth Lorena
Dear Ben
Extremely interesting, but very difficult to connect to semiotic pragmaticism
at the moment.
Cheers
Søren
Fra: Benjamin Udell [mailto:bud...@nyc.rr.com]
Sendt: 31. maj 2014 03:37
Til: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: [PEIRCE-L] I'm not sure how much this has
.
Enough for now!
gary f.
From: Søren Brier [mailto:sb@cbs.dk]
Sent: 20-May-14 9:19 AM
To: Gary Fuhrman; Peirce List
Subject: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and
religion: text 1
Dear Gary
I think this problem you bring up here hinges on the definition
!
gary f.
From: Søren Brier [mailto:sb@cbs.dk]
Sent: 20-May-14 9:19 AM
To: Gary Fuhrman; Peirce List
Subject: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and
religion: text 1
Dear Gary
I think this problem you bring up here hinges on the definition of mystical.
I agree
Dear Gary and list
Your quote made me think of John of the Cross famous poem of the dark night
describing the mystical union. http://www.ewtn.com/library/SOURCES/DARK-JC.TXT
. I have italicized the places where the a-personal in the union is described
though the poem is within the frames of
Sorry, It was Ben who found the quote about walking in the garden.
Søren
Fra: Benjamin Udell [mailto:bud...@nyc.rr.com]
Sendt: 21. maj 2014 20:18
Til: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and
religion: text 1
Quick
. maj 2014 23:00
Til: Søren Brier
Cc: g...@gnusystems.ca; Peirce-L@list.iupui.edu
Emne: Re: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and
religion: text 1
Soren:
Forgive my intrusion and brevity. This is a beatiful message. In Spanish we
would say: muy hermoso.
Eduardo
Søren Brier
Professor in the semiotics of information, cognition and commmunication science,
department of International Business Communication, Copenhagen Business School,
Home page: www.cbs.dk/staff/sbibchttp://www.cbs.dk/staff/sbibc. ,
Cybersemiotics.com
Dear Sung
Prigogine can be said to deliver a physical support to Peirce's evolutionary
worldview except that he does not have a theory of signification and meaning.
Best
Søren
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Sungchul Ji [mailto:s...@rci.rutgers.edu]
Sendt: 28. april 2014
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