On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:09:08AM -0500, David Grove wrote:
I realize that's hard to do, and "core" developers get swamped, but
without a public voice
Perl 6 Public Relations - brian d foy
The public relations side of development relays important
events and happenings
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:10:57PM -0500, David Grove wrote:
Perl 6 Public Relations - brian d foy
Public relations? Uh, who is the Perl 6 information officer?
I don't have the faintest idea.
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On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:34:33PM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
is there some way we can duplicate/adapt
their process so that we can simultaneously put to rest both David Grove's
concerns about elitism and Dan Sugalski's concerns about lack of planning?
No.
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Everything that can ever be
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 03:11:54PM -0500, David Grove wrote:
Perhaps, then, there should be one more officer, chosen by Larry himself.
This person would be responsible for collecting public opinions and
representing them to the developer group, who needs to follow that guidance
as long as
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 03:38:17PM -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see a problem yet. If Perl were
somehow being "taken over", then I expect the Perl community (at the
very least, one David Grove :-) to be up in arms about it.
And then they could fork,
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:42:24PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
This one's double:
Compilers,Principles, Techniques and Tools
Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools.
You should read it twice.
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Machines should work. People should think.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 04:59:50PM -0400, Jorg Ziefle wrote:
Detailed information should follow soon. Should I write an RFC to
discuss about, though I would come a bit late? :(
RFC 313 not good enough for you? :)
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Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
Rename the local operator? Yeah, I think we ought to do that. It
confuses people when we call it local(). The problem is, of course,
that this is not a perfect solution--they haven't come up with the
right name here: savetmp,
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:58:45AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
@foo wa kaite kudasai;
Wahey, INTERCAL in Japanese.
"Now, we have to start over from scratch". That's INTERCAL.
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The debate rages on: Is Perl Bachtrian or Dromedary?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 02:37:16PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/perl6-language@perl.org/msg00517.html
No, and no, and no.
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On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 10:11:56AM -0500, Mark-Jason Dominus wrote:
My critique of the Perl 6 RFC process and following discussion is now
available at
http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/11/perl6rfc.html
Agree 100% to every point.
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"The best index to a person's character is a) how he
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:12:50AM -0500, John Porter wrote:
As an RFC author and persistent discutant, I always assumed that
all/most/many of such qualified internals folks would be reading
the perl6 lists, and would squawk when appropriate.
On the whole, driving a spike between language
This is the fourth time I've sent this mail to perl6-internals-api-parser,
but it doesn't seem to be arriving. None of my other mail is affected, and
perl5-porters is, for once, behaving itself; why this list in particular?
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Damn
Eric Raymond's book-in-development ``The Art of Unix Programming'' says
this about the future of Perl:
Perl usage has grown respectably, but the language itself has been stagnant
for two years or more.
Bah. Looks like my Perl5-Porters summaries have been completely in vain. :)
The past two
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:46:42AM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
Perhaps we're not giving the right impression. Hey, brian, aren't
you supposed to be preventing this from happening?
no, it isn't.
I find
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 06:57:03AM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
Likewise. More so since I didn't even receive it.
I retract that; I've been having mail problems all weekend and it's
since arrived.
Brian, you're not in my good books today, this month or this year.
Please sort it out. Now.
I
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 11:28:45AM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
okay. i quit.
Well, hm. I'd rather we actually made something positive out of this.
There's obvious FUD out there and we don't seem to be giving the impression of
getting much done, or doing anything to counter it. Part of the
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:03:12PM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
In order to do something about this, I suggest that we should:
i) ...
ii) ...
I forgot iii)...
Ask, could we have the PDDs placed up on dev.perl.org in the same way as the
RFCs, please?
So far we have
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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servant,
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* [9]Notes
* [10]Autoloading Modules
* [11]Packaging
* [12]Vtables
* [13]Subroutine return values
* [14]End of Scope Actions
* [15]Garbage Collection
* [16]kdb
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perhaps another way perl6
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:57:13AM -0500, Kirrily Skud Robert wrote:
Would anyone like to volunteer to do weekly summaries
Well, don't forget that I *do* have people helping me out with the weekly
summaries. I don't know how people want to play this. Do you want:
* One weekly summary of
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:46:08PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
Would it be possible to make this summary subsribable, so I can drop my
subscribtions to p6-internal?
To you, and to everyone else who has asked, yes. I'm working on setting
up a list right now, hosted at netthink. It's currently
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:11:33AM -0800, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the magic address;
-digest has a specific meaning with many mailing list managers. I
would suggest calling it perl6-summaries or such to avoid confusion.
Yuh, I thought of that the second after telling
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:00:45PM -0800, Edward Peschko wrote:
So I ask you - *why* make an artificial deadline? What's the point?
Do you currently believe we're all sufficiently focused on getting the
job done? I ask merely for information.
--
You are in a maze of little twisting passages,
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 05:17:10PM +, David Grove wrote:
Do you currently believe we're all sufficiently focused on getting the
job done?
What was the question?
Do you currently believe we're all sufficiently focused on getting the job
done?
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Do you associate ST JOHN'S with
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:41:09PM -0400, David Grove wrote:
Anywhere else? :)
FreeBSD comes to mind, among others.
Hm. You initially restricted your survey to commercial vendors, but now
you are moving the goalposts.
Can we get back to the subject now?
Certainly. The subject was whether
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:15:09PM +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote:
The general tendency is to over-design the second system, using all
the ideas and frills that were cautiously sidetracked on the first
one. The result ... is a 'big pile'.
-- Fred Brooks Jr, The
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:22:04PM -0400, Stephen P. Potter wrote:
This is quite a simple little script. The majority of the changes that are
being talked about won't ever show up in this. It'd be nice if you could
show something a little more complex.
The problem is that some people are
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 11:14:57AM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
afraid of, and to express your concerns about it. However, the way that
you chose to do that (Once quick and dirty dies, Perl dies.) implies
that the only thing that Perl is good for is q-n-d
A veritable lesson in logic! Here's an
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:55:55PM -0400, Stephen P. Potter wrote:
Atoms- Unicode. If everything is Unicode, you're going to have to grok
Unicode (at least tangentally) to be able to use perl.
Bah. Rubbish, no more than you need to grok Unicode to use Perl 5.6.
Do you know what data of yours
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