Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > What is the character on alt+control+d? It's the Arabic Alef Maksura. For cases you just need a "dandaane" in the middle of a word. Almost always Koranic quotes. > Or maybe that's supposed to be the tatweel?? No, Tatweel is at Shift+"-". > And forgive m

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > I also have only heard of Alif Maksura used in Arabic only in Final > position, never in initial, medial or isolated. > > Please give an example of "dandaane" which must be a Persian invention in > which case why don't you use Persian Yeh? [Wearing my Unico

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > > Guess what? It's already done. Unicode has the dotless forms of all Arabic > > letters already encoded. Exercise for the reader: Look at the charts and > > list all of them. > > Exercise for the fontmaker: make them! Who are you addressing here? A fontmak

Re: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > Hey, it's the Persian poets who liked to engage in tajnis. What if a fontmaker doesn't care about all those linguistics-only needs, and wants to give his mates just some support for their language proper, as used in modern times, and only in official letter

[PersianComputing] New keyboard layout for Windows

Using Microsoft's new keyboard creation tool, we created a keyboard layout based on the latest committee draft for the future national Iranian keyboard layout. You can download it at: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/farsitools/persiankeyboard.zip?download Important Note: This only works for W

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: > Thanks for your efforts to provide us with an experimental version of > the new standard keyboard layout for Persian ! You're welcome Peter. But please don't propagate it much, since that may be changed. > I tried the keyboard in Word2000/Win2000, using A

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > In a textbook, you might want to say, "This here is a maddah". In the > past, I wanted to show what a superscript alif compared to fatha looks > like and was not able to You should put them either over a space, or a Tatweel (U+0640, the base line exten

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: > No other keyboard I know for "extended Arabic" languages provides keytop > positions for standalone versions of maddah, hamzah above and hamzah > below, although it might make sense to use these keys as "deadkeys" to > type compounded glyphs alef-madda, ale

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > Just over a space is fine but the font should be able to render it and the > fontmakers don't always know what all people may want to type. That's some other matter. > If the fontmakers see it's a character on the keyboard, they might make > an isolated fo

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: > The question remains why you provide direct keyboard input for > "combining" hamza & madda. Are there any letter combinations other than > with alef/ya/waw that can be created via combination? Yes. Heh. > (I've seen accents added in handwriting for Pashto

Re: [PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > For whatever they're worth, they're here as PDF files: > > http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/roman.html That only mentions there is only one Kurdish letter not already in Persian. But we know a lot of accent marks are used, while the above reference only me

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > If you don't redefine your concept of "easy", Well, honestly the way it is now in MS software (or even Linux) is not good enough even for experts. IMO, all OS-es should come automatically with all languages enabled, or, at the minimum, come with an automati

[PersianComputing] RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: > >>These are *combining* Maddah, Hamza Above, and Hamza Below.<< > Isn't that what I called "deadkeys" in another context? (Had no time to > look into SC Unipad so far to see how exactly they function...) There is a difference. Dead keys are typed "before"

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: > But doesn't ALEF MAKSURA appear mostly at the end of words, i.e. in its > final or isolated forms? It does, but that is the Arabic. A normal Persian Yeh is used in Persian contexts. For example, both words "ali" and "kobraa" should be written (and encoded

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > An exhausted but euphoric Roozbeh? Not euphoric. Not at all. I just feel talkative. The really good word for what I am now is tired. I need a lot of alcohol, and then a lot of sleep. A good Persian word is "mozmahel". > Admit it, you're enjoying every mi

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > No, I've alerted all the embassies of the world not to issue you any more > visas for conferences. It should have been you then :)) > Look how much we all have profited from the fruits of your visa > frustations of the past few days-- > a very nice keyboa

RE: [farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > Yes, that's what I meant and it took YOU half an hour but would have taken > me and the silent lurkers weeks or possibly never so thank you. I don't believe it. Full stop. > And did I hear you say, "nice MS tool"? Hmmm It's a nice tool. But it's a sha

[PersianComputing] Persian is essentially ...

Following is a huge list of quotes with a pattern of "Language X is essentially language Y under conditions Z": http://mercury.ccil.org/~cowan/essential.html A few of them with references to Persian and Persians, which I find very funny: Hindi is essentially a combination of bad Persian and w

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:45, C Bobroff wrote: > There is already a font called Koodak. Won't users (and their computers) > have a problem when they THINK they are seeing this font but it's really > the old one? It won't occur to them to download the new one. The point is, this is exactly just *tha

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 05:09, C Bobroff wrote: > I don't understand why all the Arabic Yehs on Persian websites and > documents. Some sort of hot fashion? Plain ignorance?? It's CP1256 legacy. The original version didn't have a Persian Yeh, so people started using the Arabic one instead. It stuck,

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 23:28, C Bobroff wrote: > In this case, I just don't want to think about the > people who will download the new Koodak for free and sell it for a nice > profit. Not fair to the Farsiweb team nor the person who first made > Koodak. But fair if, say, the developers allow it to

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:43, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Can someone produce a BDF version? The question is: why do you need one? roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 22:20, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > My computing environment is Plan9. Plan9 fully supports Unicode > (UTF-8), but it lacks the glyphs for several font ranges. There is > currently no ttf or opentype support or conversion routines. I've > written a BDF font converter to Plan9

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 22:43, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > I didn't see a link from the index page at www.farsiweb.info to > the Koodak font. It might be convient to have one. We will do that when we reach 'beta'. Too soon now. roozbeh ___ PersianComputi

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 21:56, C Bobroff wrote: > Too bad the person who drew the original outlines remains a mystery. That just needs a little research (interviews, etc). Unfortunately nobody in FarsiWeb has the time. > My guess is that most people won't realize they should download the new, > im

[PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

ol Panel -> Fonts". 3. Delete all copies of any font you may have installed on your system named 'Koodak', 'Koodak Bold', ... 4. Install the 'Koodak' font from the menu. Roozbeh Pournader, for the FarsiWeb Project Group _

[PersianComputing] [Fwd: Unicode 4.0 is online!]

FYI. -Forwarded Message- From: Kenneth Whistler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Unicode 4.0 is online! Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:32:15 -0700 Unicadetti, The day you have been waiting for has arrived. All of the pdf for the online version of Unicode 4.0 has been generated and is now availabl

[PersianComputing] Persian Academy's computer terms

The Persian Academy has published its first official list of computer terms that have been finalized (that is, approved by the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran). The copy I'm holding is labeled "second edition" and is dated "Dey of 1381" (2003-01). It has an appendix of the Iranian law on

[PersianComputing] Re: Persian Academy's computer terms

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 05:36, C Bobroff wrote: > > "taghghe bezanid"? > We'll have to wait and see if the Academy passes that one! There is a finalized list of other terms that is not published yet, which either is waiting in a queue for the signature of the president, or is just getting prepared t

[PersianComputing] Major Enhancements to the Unicode Standard: Enabling InternationalDomain Names, Expanding Worldwide Accessibility, and Reducing the DigitalDivide

FYI. -Forwarded Message- From: Magda Danish (Unicode) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Major Enhancements to the Unicod

[PersianComputing] For the World's A B C's, He Makes 1's and 0's

An Article by New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/25/technology/circuits/25code.html roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: [PersianComputing] For the World's A B C's, He Makes 1's and 0's

On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 05:55, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I just registered. Are you telling me to pay $2.95 to read the > interview with Michael Everson? Did you PAY ANYTHING?!!! Of course New York Times has free registration! I didn't pay a single dollar when I read that. I couldn't, anyaway. > Co

[PersianComputing] Re: persian-language.org

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:37, C Bobroff wrote: > Actuallyand I'm risking exposing more of my genius tendancies > hereI wanted to ask what I misunderstood along the line because I was > under the impression that search engines or any search tool had been > instructed to consider Arabic and Pe

[PersianComputing] Netiquette (was Re: persian-language.org)

such irrelevant, inappropriate, and impolite comments to the lists, or you will be banned from posting to the lists at first, and from subscribing to them later. Roozbeh Pournader, Administrator for "lists.sharif.edu". ___ PersianComputing mail

[PersianComputing] Interesting Article

Take a look at: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html Title: The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and Character Sets (No Excuses!) First Paragraphs: Ever wonder about that mysterious Content-Type tag? You know, the o

[PersianComputing] Re: SOLVED: Button translation

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 11:04, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > "Button Phrasing. Write button labels as imperative verbs, for > example Save, Print. This allows users to select an action with > less hesitation. An active phrase also fits best with the > button's role in initiating actions, as contrasted wi

[PersianComputing] Re: [farsi] Re: SOLVED: Button translation

On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 02:16, Behnam Esfahbod wrote: > I think no, it's right about *buttons*. One should ask the authors... > But we should translate "Print..." in "File" menu as infinitive, "chaap" > or "chaap-kardan", IMPO. That is a little hard to determine when translating, "Is this some tex

Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 03:51, Behnam Esfahbod wrote: > As I know, "Farhang-e Hezareh" (also from Moaser publications) is more > better. ;) Your reasons? If you ask my opinion, Bateni's is much more consistent, and so better. Hezareh only has more entries, including multi-word phrases. roozbeh

Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 00:42, masouds wrote: > How hard is it to contact the copyright holder to release their data > and/or put it under GPL? Bad news: * It's hard. It's very hard. Almost all publishers believe they have already done their "isaar" by going through all the trouble of publishing t

[PersianComputing] Dar Jaabolsaa-ye Internet

Dar Jaabolsaa-ye Internet, an article by Nasrollah Pourjavadi: http://www.farsiweb.info/misc/dar-jaabolsaaye-internet.pdf (Sorry about the not-so-good quality.) The Persian Academy will be considering proposals for an ASCII-only way for doing this (may be extended to ISO 8859-1, but that is cons

Re: [PersianComputing] Dar Jaabolsaa-ye Internet

On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 10:24, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > So, do you know the procedure to send proposals? I can forward. In Persian, please, PS or PDF. roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/p

[PersianComputing] Persian or Farsi?

This is absolutely the best article I've ever seen on comparison of the words "Persian" and "Farsi": http://www.persian-language.org/Group/Article.asp?ID=173 Everybody, please, please, please, use the word "Persian" when refering to the name of our language in English. roozbeh

Re: [PersianComputing] VOIP Question

Dear Patrik, This is completely off-topic on this list. We would appreciate if you bring your question to other lists, or at least mark your question as off-topic when posting. roozbeh On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 22:16, patrik smida wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > My name is Patrik, and I am thinking of

[PersianComputing] An alphabetician on radio...

There is another inverview about Unicode by Michael Everson online, which was broadcast on radio in the US: http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2003/11/20031120_b_main.asp On-topic parts: 1) It mentions me by name ;) 2) One of the callers says "Farsi" in a question, then immediately corrects hims

New beta release of Persian Fonts

mpossible without their labors. Roozbeh Pournader, Sharif FarsiWeb Inc ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

PersianComputing and FarsiWeb lists merged

Dear members, We (a few key members of the FarsiWeb and PersianComputing lists) decided to merge the two mailing lists to one. There will be no more FarsiWeb mailing list, and the previous members have been moved to the PersianComputing member list. Nasser Silakhori and me will be the administrato

Re: Jalali Date & Time

On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 00:26, Sina Ghazi wrote: > Jalali extension of java.util.GregorianCalendar: > http://www.siliconws.com/JDateTime/JDateTime.zip I was wondering about the licensing of the above. What is the license? Who are the copyright holders? roozbeh __

Re: PersoArabic tables for XP fonts

On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 03:01, Behnam wrote: > Hi everybody, > Is anybody can give me an instruction, sort of "how to for Dummies", to > insert, install or whatever, the tables that are required for a Unicode > PersoArabic font to function properly on Windows XP? Adding OpenType tables to a font i

Re: PersoArabic tables for XP fonts

On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 20:47, Behnam wrote: > I was thinking of something more like taking tables from one font which > already has it, and puting it in another one which doesn't. Is it > possible? or am I completely off track? Well, that won't work unless the fonts have the same glyphs at the sa

Re: Fwd: PersoArabic tables for XP fonts

On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 21:54, Behnam wrote: > Suppose I DO have a font with tables with identical indexed > glyphs asthe one which doesn't have tables. How do I proceed > to add tables fromone to the other? There are a few tools for that. One is TTX at

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect

On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 22:47, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: > As described in the book "Nogh-teh GozAri" (The official Persian > Manual of Editing, Vol.5, Punctuaion Book) written by "Mohammad-RezA > Mohammadi-Far", page 460: Who has made this "official"?! > It is not correct to use comma (",") or U+06

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect

On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 02:27, C Bobroff wrote: > Really? I thought the "Reh" was just a workaround for fonts lacking both > "," and U+066C. I didn't think it was something that should be > prescribed. "Reh" is a workaround for the decimal separator (U+066B). This is the first time I'm seeing it re

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 00:56, C Bobroff wrote: > And now that you mention it, I recall the Arabic font-makers were having a > lot of trouble reaching a concensus as to what the decimal separator > should look like. (I don't remember the details, though.) OpenType *supposedly* has a feature that can

Re: Problem with justify lines in OpenOffice !

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 00:19, Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: > I have installed the Fedora Core 1 with KDE and OpenOffice included in > fedora CD . So the problem is that when I type Persian characters in > OpenOffice Writer ( with koodak or any unicode compatible fonts ) and > want to justify the

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect (second e-mail)

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 16:32, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > [...] As you are not a Persian whatever > expert, just go with my recommendation. period. ... or face the consequences if you wish to decide otherwise. "nagoo nagoftim!" ;) roozbeh ___ PersianCompu

Re: Writing Farsi with a german Word

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 18:36, Thomas Speck wrote: > When I start Word 2003, and change the language to farsi, i can type in > farsi, but the numerals appear in western typeset. That's a misfeature in MS Windows keyboard layouts. You can use our experimental layout described at: http://lis

Re: Writing Farsi with a german Word

> Someone also recently mentioned the following method which I haven't tried > so I can't say if it works. It may change all your numbers to Persian in > a more permanent fashion. Maybe someone else here can comment: > > 1. Control panel > > 2. Regional and language options > > 3. `Select an it

Re: Writing Farsi with a german Word

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 19:56, C Bobroff wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > > > That's a misfeature in MS Windows keyboard layouts. > > I think it's supposed to be a feature. [...] I know. That's the reason I used the term "mis

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 21:02, C Bobroff wrote: > By the way, what is the difference between "faargilisi" and "finglish?" Personal preference, perhaps. BTW, some people say the second should be called "Pinglish" ;) roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect (second e-mail)

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 20:55, C Bobroff wrote: > (Certain others may like to note how promptly Behzad has sent that when > I'm still waiting for printed wedding invitations, flyers, invoices, etc > with the Arabic Yeh and Kaf for the other museum exhibit announced a long > time ago) I'm worried

Re: [persiancomputing]Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect (second e-mail)

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 21:55, C Bobroff wrote: > Then he needs more feedback, support, participationmore "Persian > customers" as Behdad puts it, or else he will just assume no one cares and > who can blame him. I tried to convince him to refine his work based on better references, but he didn'

Re: Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect (second e-mail)

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 15:30, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: > A professional in Persian language [Mr. MohammadReza Mohammadifar], > has stated that "using of 'Reh' is prefered", So have I > ; though I'm not a Persian language expert. Look at his reason: "because of problems created in word processing".

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 18:14, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: > But don't you think shape of U+066C is very similar to sign of 'foot' > and 'minute'? > (http://students.washington.edu/irina/persianword/afgDecSep.JPG) Depends on the font. Compare with , for example

Re: Help me to change my email address for this mailing list.

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 01:27, D.A.S. Moslehi wrote: > By the way, I really did not know that we have such an email, or even > URL, as "yahoo.ir" You can find about ".ir" domain names from . "yahoo.ir" is registered it says, but the DNS service seems to be down. roozbeh

Re: Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect (second e-mail)

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:09, C Bobroff wrote: > > Look at his reason: "because of problems created in word processing". > > OK, glad everyone owns the book. I was quoting the scanned page. But I just checked and I happen to have it. > Is there a date of publication on there? > Can you please che

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:18, C Bobroff wrote: > Make a model website [...] and use [...] Weft [...] so everyone can > see how it's done. Not everyone can see Weft-enabled web pages: 1) It's a closed standard, so not everyone can implement it. Mozilla, Netscape, and Linux users won't be able to u

Re: commas in Persian (was Separating persian numbers with comma is incorrect)

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:04, C Bobroff wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > > > > Speaking of comma (060C), are there any guidelines for Persian texts about > > > putting a space between the preceding word and the comma? Again, I don't > > &

Re: New beta release of Persian Fonts

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 07:45, C Bobroff wrote: > > You can download your copy from: > > > > http://www.farsiweb.info/font/farsifonts-0.2.zip > > I can't download. > I'm getting an alert box that says "The Compressed (zipped) Folder is > invalid or corrupted." Can't reproduce that. Works just f

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:17, C Bobroff wrote: > I was told that earlier, it WAS possible on Netscape but they purposely > disabled the features that Weft makes use of. Reference? > Maybe they should put that > back. I don't know if the Linux people intentionally haven't implemented > whatever it

Re: New beta release of Persian Fonts

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:55, C Bobroff wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/farsitools/farsifonts-0.2.zip?download > > The first sourceforge attempt DID download but was unusable. I had > to make use of the "You

Re: Digestive version

On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 17:41, Admin wrote: > I wonder if there is a digestive version of the newsletter. You can ask for a digest version here: http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/options/persiancomputing > A digestive version once in a week would be perfect. I guess it's currently daily. Un

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 15:47, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote: > I wonder even the Nesf2 has a bug about this U+066C. Nesf2 is deprecated, as far as the original author (Hooman Mehr), its porter to Unicode (Mehran Mehr) and the latest maintainers (FarsiWeb) are concerned. There are currently no plan to sup

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 17:35, Behnam wrote: > Roozbeh in an interview > mentioned that users in Iran don't even spend money for their softwares > because Iran didn't sign the copyright treaty. I can't recall saying that anywhere. Reference? > But I don't understand what stops users in Iran to us

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 18:16, Behnam wrote: > Sorry, I didn't intend to put words in your mouth. [...] No problem. It just made me wonder that you're referring to something else. I checked it, and I hadn't said that. I'm not that much into commercial value of software... roozbeh

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 22:10, Ali A. Khanban wrote: > I know it is kind of personal preferences, but I was wondering whether a > right-faced comma-shaped character is suitable for the thousand > separator. I read from right to left when I see such glyph. Because > numbers are written and read fro

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 23:43, Ali A. Khanban wrote: > Mirrored is even better. It is more similar to the way I usually > separate them in handwriting. Put the pen on a paper and then move it to > the top and left, a natural number separator! I move it to top and right. I remember doing that in sc

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 22:07, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > BTW, what would the use of Reh instead of proper chars like U+066C or > U+066B do to sort orders or parsing of numeric vs. alphabetic sequences? If someone insists of having the "Reh" shape, he should use the U+066x code, while changing the gl

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:02, C Bobroff wrote: > Anyhow, I need some help. I'm just cheating by using Farsiweb's > "Persian experimental standard" keyboard and rearranging things. Please > tell me why you have included the following. Are they used for Persian? > U+0060 Grave Accent > U+003b Western

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:20, C Bobroff wrote: > Glad I asked before deleting! > I don't know about these things. Put them in if you have the space. They'll prove to be necessary. It's not XML only. It's everything that is considered *rich text*, a text file that is supposed to mean more than the e

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:31, C Bobroff wrote: > I wish there was a way to put 2-3 characters on a single keystroke with > this tool. How have they managed that with Rial on the normal keyboards? There is. Just input multiple characters in the box that asks you for the character. roozbeh ___

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:39, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Don't be hasty. Leave some unused for later when we encode new > characters ;). That is supposed to happen, actually. The Persian Academy is starting a project to define the repretoire of characters used in Persian, and recommendations for the

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:43, C Bobroff wrote: > Oh my gosh, you're so very right! Now I can put entire words! Now you'd > really better stop me! There is a maximum of four UTF-16 units (four normal characters, or two characters outside BMP). roozbeh _

Re: Using of U+066C as a number-separator

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 10:02, C Bobroff wrote: > Ok, I'll see what I can create. (By the way, they still haven't fixed the > space bar problem, not that you were holding your breath.) I've contacted a few more member of the MS team with an exact problem report. That will supposedly get fixed in a

RE: A piece of history

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:30, Linguasoft wrote: > What may make more sense these days is a keyboard that supports all the > glyphs of the Extended Arabic codeset, from Maghrebian to Uyghur or Malay, > and since many of the people concerned have been subject to one or several > script "reforms" in a

RE: A piece of history

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 21:19, Linguasoft wrote: > Thanks for the URL to the final document of the AF-locales. Have these > keyboards been implemented already, and if so, where can one get the > drivers? Michael Everson is trying to keep a list: http://www.evertype.com/standards/af/enabled.html ro

RE: sorting (again)

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 23:55, C Bobroff wrote: > (Persian borrowed the Arabic script before Arabic underwent some changes > and so you can say Persian has preserved the historically older order.) Any more info on this? I've always wondered why are these two different. roozbeh ___

job postings (was RE: A piece of history)

I wish to mention that while recruiting for academic positions is OK, we won't appreciate commercial job postings to the list. Don't say we didn't tell. On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 17:29, Jalal Maleki wrote: > Preliminary Annoncement > > Linköping University (Sweden) will be announcing a scholarshi

RE: A piece of history

On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 14:05, Linguasoft wrote: > I wonder why no keyboard drivers for the AF-locales have become available > for standard Windows applications. Since no one has put some time on it yet? > It can't be that Macintosh is the new > computing standard in Afghanistan, or am I wrong? No

RE: sorting (again)

On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:31, Sina Ghazi wrote: > I'm using Microsoft Windows Server 2003/Office 2003. So, the only remained > difference is windows versions. That is it, then. I remember a Microsoft bug on their MSDN site about this. Connie is probably using an older version. roozbeh __

Re: please remove me from list

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Re: Internationalization HOW-TO / Roadmap

On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:04, Medi Montaseri wrote: > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission > is intended by 3ware for the use of the named individual or entity to which > it is directed and may contain information that is confidential or > privileged and should

Re: Internationalization HOW-TO / Roadmap

On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:04, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Here are some random qeustions: > > 1- Would the existing input and output functions (such as iostream or C's > I/O libs) continue to > work, or do I need to change them? > 2- Do I have a resource (or data type) issue, for example 7 bit ASCII vs

FarsiFonts 0.3 (beta)

fonts. This was impossible without their labors. Roozbeh Pournader, Sharif FarsiWeb Inc ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: What is address and telephone format for Iran

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 04:30, hameed afssari wrote: > Hi; > I wanted to know if there is a standard format for Postal address and > telephone numbers in Iran. I've heard from employees of IPM (people reponsible for ".ir") that there is a standard format the Minisitry of Communications is recommendi

Re: Nesf2

On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 12:02, Mohammad Samini wrote: > I want to use "Nesf2" from http://www.farsiweb.info/font/nesf2.zip. > But it has problem while using it in microsoft office. Nesf2 has officially stopped development. There are many known bugs, with no plans to fix them. roozbeh _

Re: FarsiFonts 0.3 (beta)

On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 18:30, Ali A. Khanban wrote: > 1. Arabic Hamza Above (U+0654), Arabic Hamza Below (U+0655), Arabic > Subscript Alef (U+0656) and Arabic Maddah Above (U+0653) behave > differently from Arabic Fatha and so on. They behave more like a letter. This should be because of old sof

Re: pdf2Word

On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 19:51, Sam Baran wrote: > Does anyone know how to convert Adobe pdf Farsi text > to MS Word 2000 Farsi text? It depends on the software that created the PDF page. In each case, special decoding software should be written, since these packages usually do not follow the Adobe s

Re: Pango and FarsiTeX

On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 16:43, Mostafa Modirrousta wrote: > Would anyone please elaborate on what Pango > (http://www.pango.org/index.shtml) is? I just saw a picture of how it > treats Farsi and would that somehow let's more easily use Farsi under > Linux than Chapdiz (sorry, forgot the exact name of

Persian and Pan localization workshop

I was at Lahore the last week as a trainer for a workshop called the "Fundamentals of Local Language Computing" (http://www.panl10n.net/training.htm). It was a wonderful experience seeing Lahore, and meeting various people there, but I'm not writing about that here. Something that should be intere

Re: Nasta'aligh font

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 14:27, Behnam wrote: > Nasta'aligh font which was available at > http://www.crulp.org/ (which seems to be no more there) Should be a server issue. I'm contacting the guys to ask. > I said it wasn't Unicode. Connie thought it was. It is Unicode, it seems, but Pakistanis hav

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