[PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Angus Mann
Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others as well. Are there any rules or advice I can use for formatting (especially indenting) code? for example how best to format / indent this ? if

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others as well. Are there any rules or advice I can use for formatting (especially indenting) code? for example how best to format /

RE: [PHP] MYSQL TABLES (One To Many Relationship)

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Thanks Tedd, You're such an angel. I've tried it your way and it works perfectly well. (maybe I'll send you a return ticket to Nigeria when I organize the PHP conference). Hey Dan, help me amplify my thanks to Tedd. Alugo Abdulazeez www.frangeovic.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009

Re: [PHP] quick question - need a site i can more or less copy from

2009-03-23 Thread Jochem Maas
bruce schreef: Hi... Working on a test app, and I need a web interface to test/view the underlying information. Looking for (hopefully) quick pointers/suggestions. I'm dealing with a number of cli web crawling apps that return data. I'm trying to find a quick app that I can modify the db

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole thing of Server Side MVC and other yada yada was became joke. Those server siders become JSON pushers for JS frameworks.

[PHP] PHP checkstyle

2009-03-23 Thread Dipen
Hi list, After searching google for 1 hr I am still unable to find an equivalent for java checkstyle for PHP which would play nice with eclipse. I could find this http://developer.spikesource.com/wiki/index.php?title=Projects:phpcheckstyleNewsand one abandoned project with no releases on

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole thing of Server Side MVC and other yada yada was became

[PHP] Form To Mail script generators for Linux

2009-03-23 Thread Linda Stark
Hi, I am trying to find out if there are any “form to mail” php script generators that run on Linux available - that would generate the script needed to profess web mail forms such as a “contact us” page or a “mail us” page on a web site. There was one in patricular I was looking at that is

RE: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Michael A. Peters Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others as well. Are there any rules or advice I can use for formatting (especially indenting) code?

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Bob McConnell wrote: From: Michael A. Peters Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others as well. Are there any rules or advice I can use for formatting (especially

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread George Larson
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Bob McConnell wrote: From: Michael A. Peters Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others

[PHP] Google Summer Of Code : The PHP Project

2009-03-23 Thread Nabil Khamassi
Dear Sir/Madam, I am a first-year student at the ENSIMAG, one of the french educational institutions in informatics, applied mathematics and telecommunications, pioneer in the field of information processing and I am writing this letter to show my deep motivation and interest to work on the PHP

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Jason Pruim
George Larson wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Bob McConnell wrote: From: Michael A. Peters Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Hi Angus, please, read this topic http://www.igorescobar.com/blog/2009/02/03/coding-standards/ I speak a little bit about Coding Standards. Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Jason Pruim pru...@gmail.com wrote: George

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread George Larson
Well, I was pondering making a recommendation, of sorts. I work in an environment with various levels of coders, perhaps similar to your description. Currently, there are no standards that I have seen. We all are bringing our coding habits with us. I don't know if it is important that I like

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 4:19 PM +1000 3/23/09, Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future, and for others as well. Are there any rules or advice I can use for formatting (especially indenting) code? for

Re: [PHP] Re: Multithreading in PHP

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Great Project, Lemos. When you are thinking in show more exemples? Regards, Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Manuel Lemos mle...@acm.org wrote: Hello Andrea, on 03/18/2009 06:07 AM Andrea Giammarchi said the

Re: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Do not try this at home... Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Virgilio Quilario virgilio.quila...@gmail.com wrote: if( !function_exists('clean_sql_term') ) { function clean_sql_term($term) { return

Re: [PHP] Google Summer Of Code : The PHP Project

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:57 AM +0100 3/23/09, Nabil Khamassi wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I am a first-year student at the ENSIMAG, one of the french educational institutions in informatics, applied mathematics and telecommunications, pioneer in the field of information processing and I am writing this letter to show

Re: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:07, Igor Escobar titiolin...@gmail.com wrote: Do not try this at home... Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ ||

Re: [PHP] So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Say this: Okey man, where are the camera? it's not funny :D Regards, Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:16 PM, abdulazeez alugo defati...@hotmail.comwrote: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:54:56 -0400 From: danbr...@php.net

Re: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen

2009-03-23 Thread Jason Pruim
Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:07, Igor Escobar titiolin...@gmail.com wrote: Do not try this at home... Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P Yeah... Would you keep your voice down You self titled oh so important

Re: [PHP] Google Summer Of Code : The PHP Project

2009-03-23 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:57, Nabil Khamassi nabil.khama...@ensimag.imag.fr wrote: I am especially interested in Integrated Code Coverage of C and PHP Code because I have a solid knowledge in C language (and a full-time project in C is planned at the end of this semester in ENSIMAG) but also

Re: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen

2009-03-23 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jason Pruim wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:07, Igor Escobar titiolin...@gmail.com wrote: Do not try this at home... Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P Yeah... Would you keep your voice down You self

RE: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:11:00 -0400 From: danbr...@php.net To: titiolin...@gmail.com CC: virgilio.quila...@gmail.com; nrix...@gmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] today i found the best function I've ever seen On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:07, Igor Escobar

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Bob McConnell wrote: To take this question a step further, is there a PHP best practices document available? I am looking for one that I can give to a new programmer and tell her do it this way until you can explain to me why you shouldn't. Bob McConnell I just remembered why I started

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
George Larson wrote: Well, I was pondering making a recommendation, of sorts. I work in an environment with various levels of coders, perhaps similar to your description. Currently, there are no standards that I have seen. We all are bringing our coding habits with us. I don't know if it is

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole

[PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be sent one day and then a week. or so later, it's sent again? Even

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread Jason Pruim
tedd wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be sent one day and then a week. or so later, it's sent again?

RE: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:52:21 -0300 From: titiolin...@gmail.com To: pru...@gmail.com CC: george.g.lar...@gmail.com; nos...@mckenzies.net; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting Hi Angus, please, read this topic

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:58 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Im brazilian, and i understand your language, why you dont undertand my ? Regards, Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, abdulazeez alugo defati...@hotmail.comwrote: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:52:21 -0300 From:

RE: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be sent one day and then a week. or so later, it's sent again?

RE: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Im brazilian, and i understand your language, why you dont undertand my ? Regards, Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com Well I guess the answer to that is obvious. I'm not brazilian and it would be so generous of you to use the most acceptable

Re: [PHP] Form To Mail script generators for Linux

2009-03-23 Thread Jacques Manukyan
Take a look at http://php.resourceindex.com/Complete_Scripts/Form_Processing/ Note that not all the scripts there are free though so look at type. By the way, as long as the server can run PHP and there are no specific shell commands in the script, it should run on any operating system. --

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:09 AM -0400 3/23/09, Jason Pruim wrote: tedd wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be sent one day

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread Jason Pruim
tedd wrote: At 10:09 AM -0400 3/23/09, Jason Pruim wrote: tedd wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular environment. The deprecation of usefulness of any technology is based on

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Stuart
2009/3/23 tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com: However, I have heard of new javascript being run server-side. What's the likelihood of that catching on and surpassing php? http://aptana.com/jaxer I really like the idea, but I'm yet to have a good reason to try it. If you're starting from scratch it

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular

Re: [PHP] Form To Mail script generators for Linux

2009-03-23 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Jacques Manukyan ml...@streamingedge.comwrote: Take a look at http://php.resourceindex.com/Complete_Scripts/Form_Processing/ Note that not all the scripts there are free though so look at type. By the way, as long as the server can run PHP and there are no

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Ok man, I'm sorry. This post i wrote in a few days ago in my native language. I dont have time enough to write in two languagesbut who knows in the future i can do it? I'm sorry about that man,but if you like the post anyway, try something like google translator. Regards, Igor Escobar

RE: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread abdulazeez alugo
Ok man, I'm sorry. This post i wrote in a few days ago in my native language. I dont have time enough to write in two languagesbut who knows in the future i can do it? I'm sorry about that man,but if you like the post anyway, try something like google translator. Regards,Igor Escobar

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
George Larson wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Bob McConnell wrote: From: Michael A. Peters Angus Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to PHP so I don't have too many bad habits yet. I'm keen to make my code easy to read for me in the future,

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Jesse.Hazen
Not to mention the Object Oriented nature of PHP. This looks like a pretty cool idea, but JS OO cannot compare to PHP OO programming. Thanks, Jesse Hazen -Original Message- From: Stuart [mailto:stut...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:49 AM To: tedd Cc:

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Arno Kuhl
-Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
tedd wrote: At 10:09 AM -0400 3/23/09, Jason Pruim wrote: tedd wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Sorry, all, I must have yelled. Two days later and my words are still echoing. ;-P I'm sure everyone has experienced email being delivered oddly. What's the problem that causes an email to be

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Arno Kuhl wrote: -Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank

Re: [PHP] Re: So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread Eduardo
No, please! In some districts of the world, license means bribe. Eduardo Varela Buenos Aires, 25 ºC Marc Christopher Hall m...@hallmarcwebsites.com wrote in message news:!!AAAYAFiX02vhnU9NtdOHs2jtbxfCgAAAEMVvYN00QhlOn0no wcs77jkba...@hallmarcwebsites.com... This is why I

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Arno Kuhl wrote: -Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:31 AM -0500 3/23/09, Shawn McKenzie wrote: tedd wrote: At 10:09 AM -0400 3/23/09, Jason Pruim wrote: Well... As my Dad would say... Someone wasn't holding their mouth right... :) That's a strange answer. Maybe I'm dense, but what does that have to do with email? Cheers, tedd

RE: [PHP] Re: So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Eduardo No, please! In some districts of the world, license means bribe. You misspelled most. In a lot of cases it is simply disguised as union or association dues or as a fee or tax, but the effect is just the same. The purpose is to protect the incumbents from too much

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:50 AM -0400 3/23/09, Bastien Koert wrote: Tedd, JS has been running on MS servers for a long time. It was always viewes as an acceptable replacement for vbscript. Well -- that's been my fear. I think that M$ is trying to get it's foot into this so they can charge for it -- similar to

Re: [PHP] Re: So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 12:49 PM -0300 3/23/09, Eduardo wrote: No, please! In some districts of the world, license means bribe. Eduardo Varela Buenos Aires, 25 †C It means the same here. It's a payment for being allowed to do something instead of payment for services rendered. In the USA politicians don't want

Re: [PHP] Proper code formatting

2009-03-23 Thread Igor Escobar
Thx ab. I'm did not to be rude ;) Have a nice day. Regards, Igor Escobar systems analyst interface designer www . igorescobar . com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM, abdulazeez alugo defati...@hotmail.comwrote: Ok man, I'm sorry. This post i wrote in a few days ago in my native

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:50 AM -0400 3/23/09, Bastien Koert wrote: Tedd, JS has been running on MS servers for a long time. It was always viewes as an acceptable replacement for vbscript. Well -- that's been my fear. I think that M$ is

Re: [PHP] So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread haliphax
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com wrote: ---8--- ### function h3x($envar){    $hax3d = bin2hex($envar);    $hax3d  = chunk_split($hax3d , 2, %);    $hax3d  = % . substr($hax3d , 0, strlen($hax3d ) - 1);    return $hax3d;

Re: [PHP] Having trouble with a form to mail script.

2009-03-23 Thread Jan G.B.
2009/3/21 Linda Stark nads...@live.com: I’m not sure if I am in the right forum but thought I would give this a shot… Sure, you are I just created a new mail form in Dreamweaver for a web site.  I’m working on a form to mail script that I started after reading a few on line tutorials,

Re: [PHP] So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread George Larson
OMGBBQ I didn't even catch that! He truly is the c0d1ng g0d! On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:45 PM, haliphax halip...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com wrote: ---8--- ### function h3x($envar){

Re: [PHP] So called PHP Expert

2009-03-23 Thread Jan G.B.
2009/3/20 דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com: I'm a member of some forums about some topics, One of them include a programming forum. Now, I've visited there a week ago and saw a topic with the title Free security, Someone who calls himself a PHP expert (and said that he could teach me PHP

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 10:43 -0400, tedd wrote: At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular environment. The

Re: [PHP] Double the fun

2009-03-23 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:05:27PM -0400, tedd wrote: At 10:31 AM -0500 3/23/09, Shawn McKenzie wrote: tedd wrote: At 10:09 AM -0400 3/23/09, Jason Pruim wrote: Well... As my Dad would say... Someone wasn't holding their mouth right... :) That's a strange answer. Maybe I'm dense,

Re: [PHP] Re: Multithreading in PHP

2009-03-23 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 03/23/2009 10:05 AM Igor Escobar said the following: Great Project, Lemos. Thanks? When you are thinking in show more exemples? Who? Me or Andrea? -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Find and post PHP jobs http://www.phpclasses.org/jobs/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
On Monday 23 March 2009 16:24:55 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:58 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man.

[PHP] utf-8-safe replacement for strtr()?

2009-03-23 Thread Tom Worster
i havea general replacement or workaround for every php function in my code that i know to be utf-8-unsafe. except one: strtr(). the only ideas i have to implement strtr in php with known utf-8-safe php functions would be rather inefficient. any ideas, suggestions, pointers? or maybe you're

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Daniel Kolbo P.P.P.S. What might be nice is to have an online repository of PHP community approved classes, then programmers could mix and match 'modules' as needed...well now I am sounding like that snake oil salesman. You mean something like CPAN over in the Perl arena? Or

[PHP] Re: PHP + IIS7 - 'weird stuff' with multiple sites on same server

2009-03-23 Thread scubak1w1
Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote in message news:b8.7e.55398.e12b2...@pb1.pair.com... [snip] I've never done this, but just scanning that link, did you do the Per-site PHP process pools steps? Found it! I was using a php.ini file, a little adjusted, from the test server on IIS5.1

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. No it won't. People are getting sick and tired of allowing third scripts to modify the DOM - browsers are

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Daniel Kolbo wrote: P.P.P.S. What might be nice is to have an online repository of PHP community approved classes, then programmers could mix and match 'modules' as needed...well now I am sounding like that snake oil salesman. There is a php class web site that focuses on OO

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Bob McConnell wrote: However, don't limit it to classes. There are enough non-OO people that collections of usable function libraries should also be worth assembling. I would also suggest including unit test fixtures and utilities in any collection. Bob McConnell Most functions can be

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Phpster
Sorry for top posting, but here goes... Stopping third party js from running on the client will never happen. If so, you just killed your servers thru put in attempting to handle things like google maps, google analytics and other fun things coming out of companies like that ( google, zoho

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Phpster wrote: Sorry for top posting, but here goes... Stopping third party js from running on the client will never happen. If so, you just killed your servers thru put in attempting to handle things like google maps, google analytics and other fun things coming out of companies like that (