On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Larry Garfield la...@garfieldtech.com wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 11:32:10 pm Tommy Pham wrote:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Teus Benschop teusjanne...@gmail.com
wrote:
When looking at PHP as used in enterprise class applications, we can see
the
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Teus Benschop teusjanne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 21:32 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
# of requests / second can be solved by load balancers/clusters. What
about the multiple answers for a simple request per user as in my
example? How you would
Tommy Pham wrote:
The company started small. As their business grows because they have
products services that do not exist in the marketplace, their
hardware are already growing along side with it, (load balancers,
clusters). So then your solution is buy bigger/more boxes? What if
the
stop bashing the people who DO have a use for threading and other
advanced concepts eh.
just because you don't have a use for it, it shouldn't be included?!
kinda arrogant.
also kinda arrogant: how do you know the guy needing threading is not
working on projects many times as complex as your own
The problem you're getting is that your web-server interprets the
request as a request for a normal file and just sends it - in effect,
you're not outputting the postscript file, you're just sending the
.php file. Normally, you'll only get your php executed if the file
requested is a .php or
throw more hardware at it?
how about you not butt into my business and how i save costs eh..
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
The company started small. As their business grows because they have
products services that do not exist in
and btw, complexity of design can go up considerably when you have to
deal with more than 1 php and 1 mysql server, because the language
forces inefficient constructs _and_ is stuck on 1 server
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com wrote:
throw more hardware at it?
Tommy Pham wrote:
Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example. The manufacturers list is
about 3,700. The categories is about about 2,400. The products list
is right now at 500,000 and expected to be around 750,000. The site
is only in English. The store owner wants to expand and be I18n:
Teus Benschop wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 19:08 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
The response time, max 5 seconds, will be tested on local gigabit LAN
to ensure the adequate response (optimized DB code proper
hardware) without worrying about users' connection limit and site's
upload bandwidth
jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved
by a sql solution.
imo, they're NOT. example? any realtime system with real work to do.
please stop pretending you know the proper design of all software that
is made or yet has to be made.
both a ya.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at
Rene Veerman wrote:
stop bashing the people who DO have a use for threading and other
advanced concepts eh.
I'm not bashing anyone.
just because you don't have a use for it, it shouldn't be included?!
kinda arrogant.
Feel free to think so - I never said I don't have a use for it
yes you are bashing them (me included) imo
you say threading support doesnt belong in php; with that you're
determining what i may and may not do, even if i have given you good
reasons for it, that you chose to ignore.
i hope the php developers have more sense than you. i'm done
discussing this
Rene Veerman wrote:
look per, i for one build systems designed to scale to popular levels.
that means that whatever i can squeeze out of a single machine will
save me money. quite a lot, coz as you know dedicated hosting gets
very expensive when you have to buy fast machines.
Well, at
Rene Veerman wrote:
jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved
by a sql solution.
imo, they're NOT. example? any realtime system with real work to do.
please stop pretending you know the proper design of all software that
is made or yet has to be made.
both a ya.
I
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:00 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved
by a sql solution.
imo, they're NOT. example? any realtime system with real work to do.
please stop pretending you know the proper design of all software that
is
popular : facebook youtube etc
and you're still trying to impose a toolset on me. i think it's not
strange to ask a programming language support basic hardware
architecture features as they evolve into mainstream.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Rene
so your systems represent all the software problems out there in the world?
or your experience does?
hard to believe.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved
by a sql
Rene Veerman wrote:
yes you are bashing them (me included) imo
you say threading support doesnt belong in php; with that you're
determining what i may and may not do, even if i have given you good
reasons for it, that you chose to ignore.
Well, call it what you like, I think I'm being
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:28 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
funny how i've been topposting for over a year here and the complaints
start when i tell some people not to butt into my business and choice
of tools.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:07 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
and i like top-posting. a lot.
Rene, please do stop posting. It is in the mailing list rules that you
should bottom post.
There is a reason for it. It helps with readability if everyone conforms
to the same practice, and the mailing
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:00 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
jeez dude, you're assuming that all software problems are best solved
by a sql solution.
imo, they're NOT. example? any realtime system with real work to
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
By advocating that thread support does not belong in PHP, I am in no way
determining what you (or anyone else) may or may not do. You are a
free individual and free to choose the programming language and
paradigm that is
funny how i've been topposting for over a year here and the complaints start
when i tell some people not to butt into my business and choice of tools.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 10:07 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
and
Rene Veerman wrote:
popular : facebook youtube etc
Rene, I must be missing something here. That sort of size implies
millions in advertising revenue, so why are we discussing how much
performance we can squeeze out of a single box? I mean, I'm all for
efficient use of system resources, but
talk to me about this some other time.
atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their very very
annoying behaviour of determining my toolset for me.
keeping a thread on topic is also ettiquette from the mailinglist rules eh?
you might wanna consider just how much it pisses me off
Tommy Pham wrote:
When you do use AJAX, there is a slight difference in your app design
then when you don't use AJAX. That's the way I see threads.
A threaded design makes for a lot more than a slight difference IMHO.
Once you've said threading, the next words in rapid succession are:
Rene Veerman wrote:
funny how i've been topposting for over a year here and the complaints
start when i tell some people not to butt into my business and choice
of tools.
Rene, the only reason I mentioned it was because your language was
becoming abusive and annoying. If it hadn't, I
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
popular : facebook youtube etc
Rene, I must be missing something here. That sort of size implies
millions in advertising revenue, so why are we discussing how much
performance we can squeeze out of a
exactly. the knock-on problems you mentioned are well solved and well
documented.
realtime programmers using threads have to get their heads around it
on their first realtime project.
i don't like doing my code in c(++), or worse; having to interface
between c(++) and php.
i chose php because my
Rene Veerman wrote:
again:
a) you're determining the contents of my toolset, without it affecting
you at all. the way you want it php will degrade into a toy language.
Rene, it seems to me that you and I are advocating two opposite
positions on the topic of threading in PHP, so aren't we both
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
again:
a) you're determining the contents of my toolset, without it affecting
you at all. the way you want it php will degrade into a toy language.
Rene, it seems to me that you and I are advocating
Heh, you guys are funny!
On 24 Mar 2010, at 08:58, Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
popular : facebook youtube etc
Rene, I must be missing something here. That sort of size implies
millions in advertising
Rene Veerman wrote:
what you're suggesting is highly intrusive in my work-style, one that
you're not affected by at all.
Hmm, you're the one suggesting a change, I'm suggesting no change. How
can no change be intrusive?
in fact if you make things more difficult for me, i have less time to
If you added threading to the bag of tricks it already has, you're getting
into areas that make it more difficult to pick up for beginners (and that's
not to mention the technical elements involved in actually adding threading
to PHP) Currently the only other 'easy' language I know for beginners
Rene Veerman wrote:
b) i will aim for all possible decreases in development time and
operating costs during, not only in the grow phase but also in hard
economic times. any business person knows why.
Given that the lifetime effort (=cost) of any software project is
divided into 25%
php is not a hammer, its a programming language.
one that i feel needs to stay ahead of the computing trend if it is to
be considered a language for large scale applications.
but you nay-sayers here have convinced me; i'll be shopping for
another language with which to serve my applications and
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the dev-team to such extent that
these features would actually not make it into php.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Rene Veerman
and if threading and shared memory aren't implemented, then hey, the
php dev team can build something else in that these naysayers DO need
eh...
lol...
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
On 24 March 2010 10:38, Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com wrote:
and if threading and shared memory aren't implemented, then hey, the
php dev team can build something else in that these naysayers DO need
eh...
lol...
Do you have any idea how sad and pathetic you come across? I'm very
sorry to
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 11:36 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the dev-team to such extent that
these features would actually not make it into php
I assume you have some proof for that accusation?
This thread has almost now turned into a platform for insulting
On 24 March 2010 10:38, Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com wrote:
and if threading and shared memory aren't implemented, then hey, the
php dev team can build something else in that these naysayers DO need
eh...
lol...
take a look at this - http://nanoserv.si.kz/
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thanks for opening my eyes and telling to abandon ship in time.
===
Bye, enjoy the swim...
Maybe by
sad and pathetic? how about revealing.
i can call your sad and pathetic for:
- insisting on how others should do their work.
- group-attacking your opposition, hoping to intimidate by outnumbering.
- ignoring all valid explanations on why someone would like their fav
tool to evolve with the
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the dev-team to such extent that
these features would actually not make it into
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 11:56 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote:
sad and pathetic? how about revealing.
i can call your sad and pathetic for:
- insisting on how others should do their work.
- group-attacking your opposition, hoping to intimidate by outnumbering.
- ignoring all valid explanations on
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app. Now
I hear people mentioning C when they need productivity or speed...
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Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the dev-team to such extent that
these features would actually not make it into php.
I for one will not
Stuart Dallas wrote:
I love the way you call us nay-sayers like it's supposed to be an
insult. I follow the KISS principle to the nth, and as such threading
in PHP doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm yet to come across a
problem I couldn't solve with pure PHP, but when the need arises I
On 23 March 2010 16:39, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Richard Quadling wrote:
However you want to identify the location, the autoloading techniques
will allow you to only need to identify the location once. As compared
to every file meticulously
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app. Now
I hear people mentioning C when they need productivity or speed...
I think I was the one to mention the latter, but as I started out
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app. Now
I hear people mentioning C when they need productivity or speed...
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:24, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that you're longer with
that company, either by direct employment or contract consultant.
You've implemented C because you need 'thread'. Now your replacement
comes in and has
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:24, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh
Per Jessen wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
what you're suggesting is highly intrusive in my work-style, one that
you're not affected by at all.
Hmm, you're the one suggesting a change, I'm suggesting no change. How
can no change be intrusive?
in fact if you make things more difficult for me, i
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:34, Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that you're longer with
that company, either by direct employment or contract consultant.
You've implemented C because you need
I subscribe to this list to share tips on software designs.
Getting and keeping your respect i'm not even interested in.
I'm interested in the quality of your tips on problems i post, as tips can
lead faster to products, leads to money, leads to my personal freedom and
options in life.
Respect
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com
wrote:
Give us a real example of why you think it should be
supported and I guarantee we can come up with a way to get you what
you want without requiring massive changes to the core of your chosen
tool. And
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app.
Now I hear people mentioning C when they need
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that important.
these nay-sayers usually also lobby the
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 03:38 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:24, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:38, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:24, Tommy Pham wrote:
I did give a real life example, ie e-commerce site mentioned earlier.
Amazon has the similar features of my example except they have
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:34, Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that you're longer with
that company, either by direct
Tommy Pham wrote:
How exactly will threading in PHP help with the size of the database? That
makes no sense to me, please help me understand how you think threading will
help in this scenario.
Looking at my example, not just the rows There are other features
that require queries to a DB
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 03:38 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:24, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Stuart
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
How exactly will threading in PHP help with the size of the database?
That makes no sense to me, please help me understand how you think threading
will help in this scenario.
Looking at my example, not
On 24 March 2010 11:53, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP
On 24 March 2010 12:04, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
How exactly will threading in PHP help with the size of the database?
That makes no sense to me, please help me understand how you think
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:46, Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 09:36, Rene Veerman wrote:
unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this
matter of course.
yes, i do consider it that
yea right..
i really want to keep my code base in 1 language, because that
simplifies everything later on imo.
you people, who are against the evolotion of php towards cloud
computing, would force me to do mixed-languages projects or even
rewrite large sections of my codebase if as i want, i keep
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 March 2010 12:04, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
How exactly will threading in PHP help with the size of the
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:48, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Stuart Dallas stut...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:34, Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that
Stuart Dallas wrote:
I love the way you call us nay-sayers like it's supposed to be an
insult. I follow the KISS principle to the nth, and as such
threading in PHP doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm yet to come
across a problem I couldn't solve with pure PHP, but when the need
arises I
Peter Lind wrote:
Any you have a database that can actually handle that?
If the database is taking 0.1 seconds per query, and you have 10 queries,
then getting the data is going to take 1 second to generate. If you want
some slow query to be started, and come back for the data later, then I
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Stuart Dallas
I find it curious and amusing that you think the lack of threading support
means PHP is somehow living in the dark ages. But yeah, complaining that the
FREE tool you've CHOSEN to use doesn't support the feature YOU want... yeah,
that's the way
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org
wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier
mentioned that how silly it
how about having a threaded php server query 10 mysql servers at the
same time? 10 results in .1 seconds!
and dont start with 'apache will handle that', there are cases where
you're best off doing it in php, so you can gather/calculate relations
from the data off 10 different servers.
On Wed,
Rene Veerman wrote:
how about having a threaded php server query 10 mysql servers at the
same time? 10 results in .1 seconds!
How about using mysqlnd? AFAIK, it has support for asynchronous
queries.
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again; i have neither the expertise ready, nor the time nor the money
atm, to implement it myself.
i'm hoping the php-dev team will agree with me that scalability of php
driven apps should be put on the agenda.
threading and shared memory are only a part of that discussion..
i'm opening a new
On 03/24/2010 05:25 PM, Rene Veerman wrote:
Hi..
As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated when will php
grow up and support threading thread, i'm requesting you people list
how you scale from 1 server to many servers; what's called cloud
computing.
In particular, i'm interested
On 24 March 2010 12:14, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 March 2010 12:04, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tommy Pham wrote:
How
Rene Veerman wrote:
Hi..
As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated when will php
grow up and support threading thread, i'm requesting you people list
how you scale from 1 server to many servers; what's called cloud
computing.
Scaling to N boxes is first a matter of
On 03/24/2010 05:31 PM, jose javier parra sanchez wrote:
I have already answer that on the other thread, but anyway
http://nanoserv.si.kz/ , or use the web webserver made with it
http://nanoweb.si.kz/. And thinking about your 'requirements', avoid
mysql from that equation. There are other faster
Hmmm, that looks to me like you're trying to solve a problem in PHP
with a c/c++c/# overloading solution. I'd give the builder pattern a
try instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder_pattern
On 24 March 2010 13:01, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi.
I have a scenario
On 03/24/2010 05:31 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:
Hi.
I have a scenario where I would _like_ to have multiple constructors
for a class.
Each constructor has a greater number of parameters than the previous one.
e.g.
?php
class myClass {
__construct(string $Key) // use key to get the complex
On 03/24/2010 05:38 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 03/24/2010 05:31 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:
Hi.
I have a scenario where I would _like_ to have multiple constructors
for a class.
Each constructor has a greater number of parameters than the previous
one.
e.g.
?php
class myClass {
Hi,
I want to properly learn object oriented programming as I've been coding in
procedural style since I started with PHP a few years ago, and want to give
OOP a shot. The web isn't really a good resource to learn OOP in PHP to be
honest, as a lot is outdated for PHP4's style of OOP. I've looked
Rene Veerman wrote:
Hi..
As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated when will php
grow up and support threading thread, i'm requesting you people list
how you scale from 1 server to many servers; what's called cloud
computing.
In particular, i'm interested in how to set up an
On 24 March 2010 12:08, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote:
On 03/24/2010 05:31 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:
Hi.
I have a scenario where I would _like_ to have multiple constructors
for a class.
Each constructor has a greater number of parameters than the previous one.
e.g.
?php
On 24 March 2010 12:06, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmmm, that looks to me like you're trying to solve a problem in PHP
with a c/c++c/# overloading solution. I'd give the builder pattern a
try instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder_pattern
On 24 March 2010 13:01, Richard
And how exactly does that differ from building the same pizza in
different ways? Builder doesn't mean you have to create different
objects, it means taking the complexity in building a given object or
set of objects and storing it in one place.
In your case, it allows you to build your object in
On 24 Mar 2010, at 11:55, Rene Veerman wrote:
As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated when will php
grow up and support threading thread, i'm requesting you people list
how you scale from 1 server to many servers; what's called cloud
computing.
In particular, i'm interested
On 24 March 2010 12:39, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote:
And how exactly does that differ from building the same pizza in
different ways? Builder doesn't mean you have to create different
objects, it means taking the complexity in building a given object or
set of objects and storing
Per Jessen wrote:
Rene Veerman wrote:
stop bashing the people who DO have a use for threading and other
advanced concepts eh.
I'm not bashing anyone.
just because you don't have a use for it, it shouldn't be included?!
kinda arrogant.
Feel free to think so - I never said I don't have a
Hello,
dan...@daniel-laptop:~$ php test.php /dev/null
Error 1
Error 2
dan...@daniel-laptop:~$ ./src/php-5.2.12/sapi/cli/php test.php /dev/null
Error 1
Error 2
well, using php-cli instead of php-cgi, this finally worked:
?
fwrite(STDERR, test\n);
fclose(STDERR);
?
But why doesn't it work
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Rene Veerman rene7...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi..
As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated when will php
grow up and support threading thread, i'm requesting you people list
how you scale from 1 server to many servers; what's called cloud
Rene Veerman wrote:
talk to me about this some other time.
atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their very very
annoying behaviour of determining my toolset for me.
keeping a thread on topic is also ettiquette from the mailinglist rules eh?
you might wanna consider just how
Rene Veerman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
By advocating that thread support does not belong in PHP, I am in no way
determining what you (or anyone else) may or may not do. You are a
free individual and free to choose the programming language and
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