Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-23 Thread mrfroasty
Investing your time on Zend Framework is worth it.I do mostly php development under Magento Platform, and Zend Framework becomes one of the vital skills I need.Apart from that, ZF is also a well thought Library that is a joy to work with.As one mentioned, the best part of it it gives the option to

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-22 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 July 2011 23:56, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP

[PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, So, with your post you will probably get

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
+1 for CI. If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies. So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface? That would be pretty sweet. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Jim Lucas
On 7/21/2011 4:00 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: +1 for CI. If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies. So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface? That would be pretty sweet. :) So, what

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: So, what would said admin interface allow you to administrate? Your app models? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse rgmi...@gmail.com wrote: Your app models? More specifically, your app model data. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 07/21/2011 07:44 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse rgmi...@gmail.com wrote: Your app models? More specifically, your app model data. :) A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. --

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP.  Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
/ -Original Message- From: Micah Gersten [mailto:news.php@micahscomputing.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Marc Christopher Hall
seem to be a promising future contender. Thanks - Marc Measure twice and cut once. -Original Message- From: haliphax [mailto:halip...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Marc Christopher Hall m...@hallmarcwebsites.com wrote: @todd; Micah - Precisely why I presented the question anew. Not only do I not have enough time to troll through the archives; I was looking for a fresher set of responses based on today's smorgasbord. Thank

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Virgilio Quilario
m...@hallmarcwebsites.com wrote: @todd; Micah - Precisely why I presented the question anew. Not only do I not have enough time to troll through the archives; I was looking for a fresher set of responses based on today's smorgasbord. Thank you for your input; I have looked at both YII and

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the developer is a trade-off you're going to have to make for ANY of the

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jason Norwood-Young wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the developer is a trade-off you're going to have to

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jason Norwood-Young wrote: haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: haliphax wrote: Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ? You know damn well I didn't. :) -- // Todd -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: haliphax wrote: Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ? You know damn well I didn't. :) I'd love to

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread Micah Gersten
HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? Thanks,

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread Micah Gersten
-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-08 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/05/2006 11:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following: This is necessary to escape wildcards characters that should be taken literally in patterns. It is needed to implement the auto-complete feature using SQL conditions of type field LIKE 'typed-text%'. If typed-text contains % or

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-08 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/06/2006 09:52 PM Martin Alterisio said the following: Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-06 Thread Martin Alterisio
2006/8/4, Manuel Lemos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, on 08/03/2006 05:18 PM Martin Alterisio said the following: Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Tony Marston
Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:23 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/04/2006 05:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit everybody. How would you know that there is no framework to

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 15:36 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/04/2006 05:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:49 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit everybody. How would you know that there is no framework to

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:15 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:49 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:52 PM Kilbride, James P. said the following: I admit I have not expressed myself clearly. What I meant is not that people should be disallowed to implement alternative APIs, but rather that they should not feel the need to do it. In the Java world, JDBC is the de

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:23 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 05:18 PM Martin Alterisio said the following: Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Jochem Maas
PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1 :-) Paul Scott wrote: You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer Science, as far as industry is concerned, I am not qualified to turn on a PC. Fortunately for me, I

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Arno Kuhl
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 August 2006 12:37 To: Paul Scott Cc: Robert Cummings; Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1 :-) Paul Scott wrote: You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! I

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Jochem Maas
@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1 :-) Paul Scott wrote: You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer Science, as far as industry

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:43 +0200, Arno Kuhl wrote: I'm not so sure if the botanist wasn't saying in a rather confused way that he was playing on the same side as PHPClasses, even if he did profess to be in the other team. Did he say he was rolling his own (in a way only botanists can do) or

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, August 2, 2006 9:50 am, Gabe wrote: Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:01 AM Robert Cummings said the following: Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 07:37 AM Jochem Maas said the following: PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1 :-) Erm Paul Scott is a good contributor of the PHPClasses site: http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/author/145758.html Several of his classes have been nominated to the PHP Programming Innovation

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 09:17 AM Jochem Maas said the following: Arno Kuhl wrote: I'm not so sure if the botanist wasn't saying in a rather confused way that he was playing on the same side as PHPClasses, even if he did profess to be in the other team. Did he say he was rolling his own (in a way

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that does

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:32 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:01 AM Robert Cummings said the following: Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 14:42 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Kilbride, James P.
-Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:43 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion Hello, on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following: The main thing in Manual's

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Martin Alterisio
2006/8/3, Manuel Lemos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust,

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Matt Todd
In my experience with the other frameworks (primarily Wasp, CakePHP, Symfony, eZ Components, and Zend Framework), I've found that I was not satisfied with the quantity of low-quality code they advocate. I have a high standard for code quality, readability, maintainability, and (more generally)

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Jens Kleikamp
Matt Todd wrote: In my experience with the other frameworks (primarily Wasp, CakePHP, Symfony, eZ Components, and Zend Framework), I've found that I was not satisfied with the quantity of low-quality code they advocate. I have a high standard for code quality, readability, maintainability, and

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-03 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Jens Kleikamp wrote: Matt Todd wrote: Because of this, I determined to build my own framework. This was a few months ago, and Canvas[1] was the result of my labor. I produced this framework while working on numerous projects at the university I work at. This allowed me to

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Tony Marston
Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc.

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread karthikeyan balasubramanian
Tony Marston wrote: Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Jochem Maas
karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Stut
Jochem Maas wrote: Stut wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. 006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure OS to the hardware of your choice

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Stut
Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Jochem Maas
Stut wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. 006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure OS to the hardware of your choice during my lunch break? -Stut -- PHP

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar to the service system

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Gabe
Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? Sounds like it's just personal preference.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote: Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Scott
Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Gabe
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote: Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Gabe
Paul Scott wrote: Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Scott
I see that there are a few different Universities in Africa supporting that framework. How active is the developer community? How long has KINKY/Chisimba been around? The AVOIR Project has been going for about 2 years now. KINKY and KEWL.NextGen were the first products of that project.

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Kilbride, James P.
I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought of how they could be abused and

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Jochem Maas
Kilbride, James P. wrote: I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought of

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts?

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 00:29 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 01:47 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Scott
You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer Science, as far as industry is concerned, I am not qualified to turn on a PC. Fortunately for me, I am also a geek. My PHP experiences started when

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-01 Thread Colin Guthrie
Satyam wrote: There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet. I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the near future and would like

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-01 Thread tedd
At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote: I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet. I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the near future and would like to think Zend would be a good horse to back, but the fact no-one here has mentioned

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote: At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote: I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet. I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the near future and would like to think Zend would be a good horse

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-01 Thread Colin Guthrie
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote: At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote: I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet. snip. I own Zend Professional, but don't use it (not good or bad). snip. An IDE is not a framework. it's

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-01 Thread Ligaya Turmelle
Colin Guthrie wrote: Satyam wrote: There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet. I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2005-12-27 Thread Petr Smith
Simon Reye wrote: I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects similar to these for php. Can anyone point me to a good php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2005-12-27 Thread Paul Scott
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 17:49 +0100, Petr Smith wrote: Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework? What about http://www.symfony-project.com/ ?? Anyone using it? There is also a relatively new application framework, out of Africa, called KINKY. http://avoir.uwc.ac.za/projects/nextgen