Investing your time on Zend Framework is worth it.I do mostly php
development under Magento Platform, and Zend Framework becomes one of
the vital skills I need.Apart from that, ZF is also a well thought
Library that is a joy to work with.As one mentioned, the best part of it
it gives the option to
On 21 July 2011 23:56, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to
>> get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is
>> about intermediate in PHP knowledge.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the
> admin of your tables/models if you wish.
Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :)
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On 07/21/2011 07:44 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
>> Your app models?
>
> More specifically, your app model data. :)
A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the
admin of your tables/models if you wish.
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h
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
> Your app models?
More specifically, your app model data. :)
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
> So, what would said admin interface allow you to administrate?
Your app models?
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On 7/21/2011 4:00 PM, Micky Hulse wrote:
> +1 for CI.
>
> If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about
> micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies.
>
> So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface?
> That would be pretty sweet. :)
>
So, w
+1 for CI.
If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about
micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies.
So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface?
That would be pretty sweet. :)
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On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to
> get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is
> about intermediate in PHP knowledge.
>
> Thank you,
So, with your post you will probabl
haliphax wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
haliphax wrote:
Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not
by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ?
You know damn well I didn't. :)
I'd love to lol - but really n
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> haliphax wrote:
>>
>> Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not
>
> by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ?
You know damn well I didn't. :)
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Jason Norwood-Young wrote:
haliphax wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young
wrote:
haliphax wrote:
Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been
discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already
writing this, I'll say that overh
haliphax wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young
wrote:
haliphax wrote:
Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been
discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already
writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity
Jason Norwood-Young wrote:
haliphax wrote:
Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been
discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already
writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the
developer is a trade-off you're going to have to m
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young
wrote:
> haliphax wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been
>> discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already
>> writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the
>> dev
haliphax wrote:
Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been
discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already
writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the
developer is a trade-off you're going to have to make for ANY of the
framework
> wrote:
>> @todd; Micah - Precisely why I presented the question anew. Not only do I
>> not have enough time to troll through the archives; I was looking for a
>> fresher set of responses based on today's smorgasbord. Thank you for your
>> input; I have looked at both YII and CI and they look
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Marc Christopher Hall
wrote:
> @todd; Micah - Precisely why I presented the question anew. Not only do I not
> have enough time to troll through the archives; I was looking for a fresher
> set of responses based on today's smorgasbord. Thank you for your input; I
does seem to be a promising
future contender.
Thanks - Marc
"Measure twice and cut once."
-Original Message-
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To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2
details at http://www.yiiframework.com/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Micah Gersten [mailto:news.php@micahscomputing.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:52 AM
>> To: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks
>>
>> HallMa
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> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:52 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks
>
> HallMarc Websites wrote:
>> First time caller; long time listener..
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been looking at various PHP MVC
HallMarc Websites wrote:
> First time caller; long time listener..
>
>
>
> I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi,
> Navigator, WACT, etc.
>
> I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems
> to be the most promising?
>
>
>
Hello,
on 08/06/2006 09:52 PM Martin Alterisio said the following:
>> >> Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the
>> state
>> >> of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what
>> suits
>> >> best for you:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/
Hello,
on 08/05/2006 11:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
This is necessary to escape wildcards characters that should be taken
literally in patterns. It is needed to implement the auto-complete
feature using SQL conditions of type field LIKE 'typed-text%'. If
typed-tex
2006/8/4, Manuel Lemos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 05:18 PM Martin Alterisio said the following:
>> Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state
>> of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what
suits
>> best for you:
>>
>> http://www
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 15:36 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/04/2006 05:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
> >> The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to
> >> recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It
> >> does n
Hello,
on 08/04/2006 05:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
>> The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to
>> recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It
>> does not mean they will suit everybody.
> How would you know that the
"Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:23 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
>> >>> The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
>> >>> pla
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 05:18 PM Martin Alterisio said the following:
>> Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state
>> of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits
>> best for you:
>>
>> http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-fr
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:23 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
> >>> The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
> >>> place was :
> >>>
> >>> "Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 02:52 PM Kilbride, James P. said the following:
>> I admit I have not expressed myself clearly. What I meant is
>> not that people should be disallowed to implement alternative
>> APIs, but rather that they should not feel the need to do it.
>>
>> In the Java world, JDBC is
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
>>> The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
>>> place was :
>>>
>>> "Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that
>>> we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:15 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 02:49 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
> The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to
> recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It
> does not mea
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 02:49 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to
recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It
does not mean they will suit everybody.
>>> How would you know that there is no
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Jens Kleikamp wrote:
Matt Todd wrote:
Because of this, I determined to build my own framework. This was a
few months ago, and Canvas[1] was the result of my labor. I produced
this framework while working on numerous projects at the university I
work at. This allowed me to
Matt Todd wrote:
In my experience with the other frameworks (primarily Wasp, CakePHP,
Symfony, eZ Components, and Zend Framework), I've found that I was not
satisfied with the quantity of low-quality code they advocate. I have
a high standard for code quality, readability, maintainability, and
(m
In my experience with the other frameworks (primarily Wasp, CakePHP,
Symfony, eZ Components, and Zend Framework), I've found that I was not
satisfied with the quantity of low-quality code they advocate. I have
a high standard for code quality, readability, maintainability, and
(more generally) sem
2006/8/3, Manuel Lemos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello,
on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following:
> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, a
> -Original Message-
> From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:43 PM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
>
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the follo
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 14:42 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following:
> > The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
> > place was :
> >
> > "Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that
> >
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:32 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 02:01 AM Robert Cummings said the following:
> Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state
> of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits
> best
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following:
> The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
> place was :
>
> "Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that
> we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that
>
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 09:17 AM Jochem Maas said the following:
> Arno Kuhl wrote:
>> I'm not so sure if the botanist wasn't saying in a rather confused way that
>> he was playing on the same side as PHPClasses, even if he did profess to be
>> in the other team. Did he say he was rolling his own (in
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 07:37 AM Jochem Maas said the following:
> PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1
>
> :-)
Erm
Paul Scott is a good contributor of the PHPClasses site:
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/author/145758.html
Several of his classes have been nominated to the PHP Programming
Innovation A
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 02:01 AM Robert Cummings said the following:
Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state
of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits
best for you:
http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommend
On Wed, August 2, 2006 9:50 am, Gabe wrote:
> Gabe wrote:
>> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
>> application development? There seems to be a number of them out
>> there,
>> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively
>> developed,
>> secure, etc et
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:43 +0200, Arno Kuhl wrote:
> I'm not so sure if the botanist wasn't saying in a rather confused way that
> he was playing on the same side as PHPClasses, even if he did profess to be
> in the other team. Did he say he was rolling his own (in a way only
> botanists can do)
Sent: 03 August 2006 12:37
> To: Paul Scott
> Cc: Robert Cummings; Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
>
>
> PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1
>
> :-)
>
> Paul Scott wrote:
>>> You mean we should all be happy that
ochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 August 2006 12:37
To: Paul Scott
Cc: Robert Cummings; Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1
:-)
Paul Scott wrote:
>
>> You mean we should all be happy that so much
PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1
:-)
Paul Scott wrote:
>
>> You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available!
>>
>
> I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer
> Science, as far as "industry" is concerned, I am not qualified to turn
> on a PC. Fortunately
> You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available!
>
I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer
Science, as far as "industry" is concerned, I am not qualified to turn
on a PC. Fortunately for me, I am also a geek. My PHP experiences
started when ru
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 01:47 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following:
> >>> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> >>> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> >>> but I'm not su
Hello,
on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following:
>>> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
>>> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
>>> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
>>> secure,
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 00:29 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following:
> > What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> > application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> > but I'm not sure which one's ar
Hello,
on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following:
> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
> secure, etc etc.
>
> Thou
Kilbride, James P. wrote:
> I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which
> is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I
> do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that
> leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought
I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which
is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I
do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that
leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought of how they could be
abused and t
> I see that there are a few different Universities in Africa supporting
> that framework. How active is the developer community? How long has
> KINKY/Chisimba been around?
>
The AVOIR Project has been going for about 2 years now. KINKY and
KEWL.NextGen were the first products of that projec
Paul Scott wrote:
Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then
just plug in the modules that you want/need to "flesh" it out. Then
you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed
and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing e
Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote:
>> Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular
>> framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like
>> "Inversion of Control", "Dependency Injection" etc.
>
> So
Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
>> Robert Cummings wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote:
Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular
framework in Java called Spring which has
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote:
Gabe wrote:
What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote:
> >> Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular
> >> framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like
> Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then
> just plug in the modules that you want/need to "flesh" it out. Then
> you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed
> and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra
> wou
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote:
> Gabe wrote:
> > What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> > application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> > but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
> > secure, et
Gabe wrote:
What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
secure, etc etc.
Thoughts?
Sounds like it's just personal preference.
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote:
>
> Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular
> framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like
> "Inversion of Control", "Dependency Injection" etc.
Sounds similar to the service sy
Stut wrote:
> Jochem Maas wrote:
>> I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want?
>>
>
> One license to kill to go please.
006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure
OS to the hardware of your choice during my lunch break?
>
> -Stut
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I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want?
One license to kill to go please.
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Jochem Maas wrote:
Stut wrote:
Jochem Maas wrote:
I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want?
One license to kill to go please.
006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure
OS to the hardware of your choice during
karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote:
> Tony Marston wrote:
>> "Gabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
>>> application development? There seems to be a number of them out
>>> there, but I'm not sure w
Tony Marston wrote:
"Gabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
"Gabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
> secure, et
Colin Guthrie wrote:
Satyam wrote:
There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots
and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions.
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.
I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the
near
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote:
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.
snip.
I own Zend Professional, but don't use it (not good or bad).
snip.
An IDE is not a framework. it's an
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote:
> >I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.
> >
> >I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in
> >the near future and would like to think Zend would be a goo
At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote:
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.
I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in
the near future and would like to think Zend would be a good horse
to back, but the fact no-one here has mentioned it
Satyam wrote:
There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots and
lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions.
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.
I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the
near future and would like t
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 17:49 +0100, Petr Smith wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework?
> What about http://www.symfony-project.com/ ?? Anyone using it?
>
There is also a relatively new application framework, out of Africa,
called KINKY. http://avoir.uwc.ac.za/projects/nex
Simon Reye wrote:
I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've
mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they
are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects
similar to these for php.
Can anyone point me to a good php MVC
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