[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread tigerbengalis
Sean So if I connect the dots in your equation below, it boils down to a claim that this most dangerous movement (and I don't dispute its dangerousness, although perhaps its mostness) is driven by Jewish ethnic nationalism and passionate Israeli patriotism. A) not true, not by a longshot. That's

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
Do you actually know anything about the intellectual history of neoconservatism, or are you just making this stuff up as you go along? Which neocon sources do you monitor regularly? Have you read the last few decades of Commentary, which is the lead journal of neoconservatism? I have.

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yet you feel the need to single out a Jewish neo-con to compare to a protoNazi. Why? Are you saying current American policy (which has hardly changed in decades, despite the current ascenency of neocons) is a Jewish

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread tigerbengalis
Sean, Commentary has for decades been openly identified as a journal with a focus on Jewish interests, from a conservative and now neo-con perspective. Your calling the obsessed is quite offensive. It's like calling People mag obsessed with celebrities. It's not an obsession if its commonly

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you actually know anything about the intellectual history of neoconservatism, or are you just making this stuff up as you go along? Which neocon sources do you monitor regularly? Having been aware of

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
Yes, I've read all your sources, and many more. But why don't you go straight to the horse's mouth? Why not read the neocons in their own words? Commentary is the best place to start. Go to the library and browse through a few decades of back issues. I assume you have some speed reading

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
Ah -- you are making little sense. Clearly this is a highly emotional topic for you, and I honestly think that you are incapable of thinking about it objectively and clearly. Commentary is not just any old Jewish magazine, it's the fountainhead of neoconservatism and a haven for Jewish

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How obsessed are neocons with the Jews? You be the judge. Here are some verbatim titles of Commentary articles: For a journal sponsored by the American Jewish Committee, this is what s/b expected. For a journal

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The anger against the neocons coming from the American foreign policy establishment these days is electric and palpable. Yes. Good old intra-ruling class divisions. I say we go go back to good old Buchananite

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
Well, if you have no objections to Commentary, certainly you will have no objections to white nationalist publications which rant on and on about their ethnic enemies. The core theme of Commentary is that the Jews are locked in an apocalyptic holy war against the rest of the human race. This

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've read all your sources, and many more. But why don't you go straight to the horse's mouth? Why not read the neocons in their own words? Commentary is the best place to start. Go to the library and browse

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, if you have no objections to Commentary, certainly you will have no objections to white nationalist publications which rant on and on about their ethnic enemies... Get a grip, Sean. If you had any knowledge

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
A suggestion: if you and tigerbengalis don't want to appear to be neocon fellow travelers, then stop trying to downplay the offenses of Commentary and the neocons, and start dealing in an honest way with the influence of Jewish ethnic militants on the Bush 43 administration and the Iraq War,

[political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread michael098762001
I say we go go back to good old , classical liberal, foreign policy. http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS by Dr. Zoltan Grossman The following is a partial list of U.S. military interventions from 1890 to 2007.

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Pugliese
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics... So negligible that the GOP for decades has had Ethnic Outreach Committees full of the most Fascist, anti-Communist sectors aligned with WACL. Drawn upon in the

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Pugliese
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics... If you lived in a neighborhood w/ immigrants from Central America, like I have, hard working and loyal to the mainstream , American, values of family and

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Pugliese
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics... http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_jmr_fmasid=1Itemid=91 Mapping the New Nativism is a comprehensive study of the location of state and local

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
I'm curious: with which ethnic group do you most strongly identify? Which ethnic tradition has most influenced you? And do you support illegal immigration? Legal immigration is a fine American tradition. Illegal immigration on the scale we are seeing it is a disaster. Any administration

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Pugliese
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious: with which ethnic group do you most strongly identify? Which ethnic tradition has most influenced you? I'm Italian-American. But, I don't identify that way. My Italian-American relatives in Pittsburgh were all racists who

Re: [political-research] Re: Unanswered Questions on Ethnic Nationalism

2007-06-29 Thread Sean McBride
Well, I am not Italian, but I am a bit of an Italian chauvinist. I've spent some time in Italy, and greatly admire the genius of Italian culture in almost all its forms (maybe there are a few problems with the Corleone/Soprano faction). And what I especially love about the Italians I've met