RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality
Alledgedly.
You take someone nice and normal say from New England, remove 3/4 of their
brain, munch up their speech.
Marry them off to their cousin, dump them in a trailer park, give them a dozen
guns and a combined IQ to match.
Get them the largest pickup truck you can find then smash it up so it barely
gets from the trailer park to the bar and back again and get them on welfare
whilst working.
But then that'd just be a stereotype like some people do for Europeans etc
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Ed Leafe wrote:
On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:11 PM, john harvey wrote:
Gee Ed, I had to edit your email for errors!
[snip]
For the last decade and a half, the Democrat party has pursued an
Gee, you went to all that trouble, and yet you still can't handle
basic grammar. Maybe one of our foreign list members can explain
basic English to you, such as the difference between a noun
('Democrat') and an adjective ('Democratic').
You really should be more careful, or people might get the
impression that all Southerners are stupid.
I get the difference between a noun and an adjective, but. what is a
Southerner? ;c)
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Re: [OT] Republicans and Reality
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Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
I've been down the same road myself and have ended up cobbling together icons from various sources. I've never found a large repository of 24-bit icons that you could use in applications. You're right, the sets supplied with VFP are in dire need of an overhaul, they're very Windows 95. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
I also have a CPA do my taxes because it is impossible for me to keep up with it. Confessions of a Mad Man! Actually, I am encouraged by your comment re: having a CPA do your taxes despite your own background and expertise. I was feeling badly that I finally retained a CPA last year to do my taxes when things got far more complex when I put my SoCal house into rental service after 27 years of owning it and my kids finally having moved out after graduating from university. Worse yet, I actually had a colleague come over to do some simple hardware work (for pay, not for free) the other day as I can not do the things I could previously due to the pinched nerve issue I am contending with. I tried to do the work myself, and managed to pinch the same nerve again - ouch, big time ouch! I am not using to paying someone for doing what I am otherwise quite proficient at myself. But, since it was for my ftp Server that I use commercially for clients I had little choice, and I had a narrow time frame to get it back up with a replacement boot Hard Drive. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN It's crap. What do you use for personal and/or business accounting? The only features that I really care about are to synchronizing my bank account information (which quicken is sh*tty at doing) and being able to automatically import the data into tax programs. ??? I am a degreed accountant with many years in the field before turning to programming. I use Quickbooks. Always have, probably always will. I download all of my credit cards and bank statements. I run them through a VFP filter and then import them into Quickbooks. I have used the SDK also, but haven't had time to do that for my own stuff. I also have a CPA do my taxes because it is impossible for me to keep up with it. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/x-pkcs7-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
I have used Quicken for personal finances for years, and QuickBooks Pro for at least 6 years for business (I have some inventory, so only the Pro version will do for me). I never seriously considered using QuickBooks for both business and personal finances, but it actually makes sense to do so. I can not think of any good reason to not do so in fact. Hmmm, with all this snow we are getting out here things get real quiet with incoming calls. Maybe that will keep me occupied during the impending slow days... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN I've recently given up on quicken also and am curious to see what others suggest using. At 04:48 PM 2/13/2007, you wrote: It's crap. What do you use for personal and/or business accounting? The only features that I really care about are to synchronizing my bank account information (which quicken is sh*tty at doing) and being able to automatically import the data into tax programs. ??? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
One thing to consider for commercial apps, there are still some folks with business that are running relatively weak machines as compared to what I am running. So I use Virtual PC to make certain my apps still look good in lesser RAM and video configurations. I try to make certain all my apps still look good when using 16 bit color, even though 24/32 bit looks nicer. I have to address the lowest common denominator, or risk having to remove newer, flashier looking icons and color choices if a person were to need to run my stuff on a (goodness!) Win 98 or weaker RAM/video PC. I do have minimum system requirements, and use InstallShield to test for minimum RAM, screen resolution and video capability. Every once in a while I get an eMail or call about the app not being to get installed on some anemic PC g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial I'm not much of an artist and would really like to start jazzing up some of my apps with icons / graphics. The problem is I don't really know where to get nice looking graphics to include. The ones included with VFP look unprofessional, as do many of the freebies I've found on the net. If there's some really professional looking stuff, I don't mind paying for it, I just want to know what people are using.. Some of the professional ones I've found just don't seem to fit into any of my apps, ie, they seem to target either hardware icons, like a cd drive or floppy, or certain other areas of interest which don't necessary translate into database applications as a theme. In fact, if some of the VFP ones just looked professional I'd probably be fairly happy with those. I'd appreciate hearing what you guys have used in the past/present, whether it's free or commerical. Thanks -Steve [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
Steve, For free nice looking ones take a look at http://www.famfamfam.com/ Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: 14 February 2007 05:40 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial I'm not much of an artist and would really like to start jazzing up some of my apps with icons / graphics. The problem is I don't really know where to get nice looking graphics to include. The ones included with VFP look unprofessional, as do many of the freebies I've found on the net. If there's some really professional looking stuff, I don't mind paying for it, I just want to know what people are using.. Some of the professional ones I've found just don't seem to fit into any of my apps, ie, they seem to target either hardware icons, like a cd drive or floppy, or certain other areas of interest which don't necessary translate into database applications as a theme. In fact, if some of the VFP ones just looked professional I'd probably be fairly happy with those. I'd appreciate hearing what you guys have used in the past/present, whether it's free or commerical. Thanks -Steve [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality
Adam Buckland wrote: Alledgedly. You take someone nice and normal say from New England, remove 3/4 of their brain, munch up their speech. Marry them off to their cousin, dump them in a trailer park, give them a dozen guns and a combined IQ to match. Get them the largest pickup truck you can find then smash it up so it barely gets from the trailer park to the bar and back again and get them on welfare whilst working. But then that'd just be a stereotype like some people do for Europeans etc Looks like you’re a Jerry Springer fan. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality
I did go and see the Jerry Springer opera but I'm just stereotyping some of the people I've met on my travels through 47 states and one district! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: 14 February 2007 12:06 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality Adam Buckland wrote: Alledgedly. You take someone nice and normal say from New England, remove 3/4 of their brain, munch up their speech. Marry them off to their cousin, dump them in a trailer park, give them a dozen guns and a combined IQ to match. Get them the largest pickup truck you can find then smash it up so it barely gets from the trailer park to the bar and back again and get them on welfare whilst working. But then that'd just be a stereotype like some people do for Europeans etc Looks like you're a Jerry Springer fan. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Why a CPA for taxes was I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Jeff Johnson wrote: I am a degreed accountant with many years in the field before turning to programming. I use Quickbooks. Always have, probably always will. I download all of my credit cards and bank statements. I run them through a VFP filter and then import them into Quickbooks. I have used the SDK also, but haven't had time to do that for my own stuff. I also have a CPA do my taxes because it is impossible for me to keep up with it. I have to ask this question. Why is a certified public accountant the person everyone turns to for getting their taxes done? You are doing an audit and you need the certified mark for submission or your looking for tax law loop holes? I know a few CPAs who are very busy this time of year but they specialize in Star-Box work. I wouldn't ask them for assistance in taxes but because they are certified they have a ton of business. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/686 - Release Date: 2/14/2007 7:54 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Steve Ellenoff wrote: I've recently given up on quicken also and am curious to see what others suggest using. Steve -- why did you give up on it? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Kevin, Yes, Turbocash is written in Delphi and versions up to last September can run when compiled with Kylix (The Linux fork of Delphi - which is no longer in production however). I have installed a couple of systems and they went in no problem with the addition of some bespoke code. The man modules are solid and well written but not completely embracing OOP as they mainly follow procedural programming lines but good nevertheless. Documentation and end user support is excellent from the forums but my main gripe was the number of updates which seem just too frequent for an accounting system even though the mvast majority of changes are either cosmetic or new features. Well worth a look though. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: 14 February 2007 13:45 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN I've written my own system that is an Everything system for me. It is not a double entry accounting system, but as an LLC my taxes are pretty simple. It has contact management, project management, invoicing, expenses, AR, and reporting. It currently is a WWWC app against VFP tables. My wife and I can both work with the data in our home network. I'm tempted to rewrite it with REALbasic so that it can run on Windows and Linux against a MySQL or PostgreSQL backend and perhaps develop some PHP front end for simple web operations. In all of my free time! I was Googling and TurboCash came up. The USA version of the web site has some broken links but the UK version of the web site looks complete. It's open sourced but only runs on Windows. f I believe it is either written in Delphi or some sort of Pascal. I haven't picked through the Wiki enough to really tell the current state. It looks like it's worth a look: http://www.turbocashuk.com/ Steve Ellenoff wrote: I've recently given up on quicken also and am curious to see what others suggest using. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Dave, It looks like Delphi isn't going to be in production either. g That doesn't mean that Delphi or Turbocash won't be useful and productive for years into the future! I would think the main point of interest for developers on this forum is that their next accounting system is open enough that they could potentially extend the system, or access the data in such a way that they could create custom reports or make small enhancements. Via ODBC, I would think that the TurboCash data would be available to this extent. Thanks! Dave Crozier wrote: Kevin, Yes, Turbocash is written in Delphi and versions up to last September can run when compiled with Kylix (The Linux fork of Delphi - which is no longer in production however). I have installed a couple of systems and they went in no problem with the addition of some bespoke code. The man modules are solid and well written but not completely embracing OOP as they mainly follow procedural programming lines but good nevertheless. Documentation and end user support is excellent from the forums but my main gripe was the number of updates which seem just too frequent for an accounting system even though the mvast majority of changes are either cosmetic or new features. Well worth a look though. Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Kevin, Well Delphi and the other Borland developer products may well be acquired by outside interests as Borland themselves want to concentrate on other non developer tools but judging by the turbo range of products Delphi, C++, C# and Delphi for .NET which are free) http://www.turboexplorer.com/ it looks like they still have a future and are also aimed at the mass market - Like wot VFP should be!! BG However, if there is one thing that is worse than dealing with VFP data via ODBC, it is dealing with data controlled by the Borland BDE which I absolutely hate which is the only down side I found with it! However, the Turbocash remains a good product and recommended. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: 14 February 2007 14:08 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN Dave, It looks like Delphi isn't going to be in production either. g That doesn't mean that Delphi or Turbocash won't be useful and productive for years into the future! I would think the main point of interest for developers on this forum is that their next accounting system is open enough that they could potentially extend the system, or access the data in such a way that they could create custom reports or make small enhancements. Via ODBC, I would think that the TurboCash data would be available to this extent. Thanks! Dave Crozier wrote: Kevin, Yes, Turbocash is written in Delphi and versions up to last September can run when compiled with Kylix (The Linux fork of Delphi - which is no longer in production however). I have installed a couple of systems and they went in no problem with the addition of some bespoke code. The man modules are solid and well written but not completely embracing OOP as they mainly follow procedural programming lines but good nevertheless. Documentation and end user support is excellent from the forums but my main gripe was the number of updates which seem just too frequent for an accounting system even though the mvast majority of changes are either cosmetic or new features. Well worth a look though. Dave Crozier [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
I'm not much of an artist and would really like to start jazzing up some of my apps with icons / graphics. The problem is I don't really know where to get nice looking graphics to include. The ones included with VFP look unprofessional, as do many of the freebies I've found on the net. I sunk a couple hundred dollars into some icon collections from this place about a year ago: http://www.iconshock.com/ It looks like they have a ton more now than they did back then. They get high icon counts by layering smaller versions of icons on top of bigger versions-- kinda like the way the arrow is in a shortcut, but it makes a bit more sense, like a 'wrench' on top of a picture of a 'user' to signify user management or something... I've used a small handful of these combinations, but mostly just use the main icon without the small icons on top. As a good rule, I'd probably take their #'s and divide it by 10 or so to get a more accurate number of truly unique icons I've also changed a few in color-- say, a blue check mark to a green checkmark. I use 'Iconomaker' to do this, where I can simply change the 'levels'. Iconomaker is a very good app, but the publishers discontinued it-- it's sad, 'cause it's the most sensible and featureful icon editor I've ever used. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Why a CPA for taxes was I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Why a CPA for taxes was I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN Jeff Johnson wrote: I am a degreed accountant with many years in the field before turning to programming. I use Quickbooks. Always have, probably always will. I download all of my credit cards and bank statements. I run them through a VFP filter and then import them into Quickbooks. I have used the SDK also, but haven't had time to do that for my own stuff. I also have a CPA do my taxes because it is impossible for me to keep up with it. I have to ask this question. Why is a certified public accountant the person everyone turns to for getting their taxes done? You are doing an audit and you need the certified mark for submission or your looking for tax law loop holes? I know a few CPAs who are very busy this time of year but they specialize in Star-Box work. I wouldn't ask them for assistance in taxes but because they are certified they have a ton of business. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ Hey Stephen: I am self-un-employed and have been for 15 years. If I were getting a paycheck I would be doing my own taxes. When it comes to self-employment there are way too many factors to consider for me when doing my taxes. For example: wages vs. dividends, office in residence, how I treat my primary vehicle, computer and software purchases. Certified means that they meet requirements to keep their license. Using a non-certified tax preparer would be similar to using a Para-legal; perfectly fine in most cases. The important thing about a CPA is their continuing education. My CPA has 200 small businesses just like mine for clients and he spends his continuing education studying the changes in tax rules. FYI - I also have a hardware guy that builds my computers, for the same reason. I can't keep up with the changes in hardware. When I think of the time I used to spend setting up a computer and installing OS and software, it's embarrassing. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/x-pkcs7-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
Steve: I have collected over the years some 2400+ icons. I have them in a zipped folder and will email it to you if you wish. Regards, Jack Skelley Steve Ellenoff wrote: I'm not much of an artist and would really like to start jazzing up some of my apps with icons / graphics. The problem is I don't really know where to get nice looking graphics to include. The ones included with VFP look unprofessional, as do many of the freebies I've found on the net. If there's some really professional looking stuff, I don't mind paying for it, I just want to know what people are using.. Some of the professional ones I've found just don't seem to fit into any of my apps, ie, they seem to target either hardware icons, like a cd drive or floppy, or certain other areas of interest which don't necessary translate into database applications as a theme. In fact, if some of the VFP ones just looked professional I'd probably be fairly happy with those. I'd appreciate hearing what you guys have used in the past/present, whether it's free or commerical. Thanks -Steve [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
I have collected over the years some 2400+ icons. I have them in a zipped folder and will email it to you if you wish. Are these all royalty free? If so, I think a number of us would be interested-- I know I would... Thanks. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
Steve Ellenoff wrote: I'd appreciate hearing what you guys have used in the past/present, whether it's free or commerical. this one has some specific icons for database stuff http://www.iconexperience.com/index.php if you are 'ok' using the terms of use http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project kc ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
We've been using old FoxPro 2.6 based accounting software for years ... since the early 80's.This is the last evolution of what WAS SBT Accounting software. It's still available, undergoing updates, multi-user, and runs on Linux Unix, and yes, the source code comes with it ! NOT FREE - but very reasonably priced, and rock-solid accounting that's easy to use full featured. Of course, it's text mode, with limited graphics (fast !), but who needs flashy accounting !!!;-) http://www.accountixinc.com/ Free demos for d/l .. legal FoxPro runtimes too ... I'm sure everyone here could easily handle tweaking the FoxPro source if needed ... ;-) Being FP, there's no problem with importing exporting ! -- ..bobp http://www.prosumers.ca http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com ---orig.- On Wednesday 14 February 2007 05:29, Steve Ellenoff wrote: I've recently given up on quicken also and am curious to see what others suggest using. At 04:48 PM 2/13/2007, you wrote: It's crap. What do you use for personal and/or business accounting? The only features that I really care about are to synchronizing my bank account information (which quicken is sh*tty at doing) and being able to automatically import the data into tax programs. ??? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: I just got 3 photocopies of a 1099 from a client. That's not legal, is it?
Madigan, That's not legal,is it? This guy sent me 3 photocopies of 1099s. Don't I have to provide originals to the IRS? At least he sent you something. Selling 1099 forms is a profit center for accounting software companies this time of year -- they're kinda expensive. He's probably just trying to save a buck by making photocopies. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.shamrocktrails.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Steve -- why did you give up on it? I was fed up with their backhanded upgrade tactics. I've been upgrading every year since 98, and have noticed the software get worse in terms of bloat, relentless advertising stuck in your face, and in many ways I prefered the older versions ( the functionality seemed cleaner and easier to me ). When I hit version 2003 I decided I was done upgrading; I hadn't seen any compelling features to keep going. Then I found out how Quicken basically disables some of the most crucial features of their software after a certain time frame which coincides with them dropping support for the product. I think they call this the sunset period or something. I don't care if they drop phone support ( it's useless anyway ), but to disable features, is criminal. The most notable feature is the automatic downloading of credit card bank account information. It basically stopped working after this date (which was about 5 months ago I think). I was warned many many times by the software that it would stop, and that I *must* upgrade, and I was even sent numerous emails about it. I was and am still outraged at this tactic, so I decided instead of knuckling under, I would abandon them all together. So I did, but now I'm looking for a replacement, and I'm unsure what to go with ( I've heard some horror stories about MS Money ).. -Steve ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
Thanks Dave I'll check it out. At 04:39 AM 2/14/2007, you wrote: Steve, For free nice looking ones take a look at http://www.famfamfam.com/ Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: 14 February 2007 05:40 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial I'm not much of an artist and would really like to start jazzing up some of my apps with icons / graphics. The problem is I don't really know where to get nice looking graphics to include. The ones included with VFP look unprofessional, as do many of the freebies I've found on the net. If there's some really professional looking stuff, I don't mind paying for it, I just want to know what people are using.. Some of the professional ones I've found just don't seem to fit into any of my apps, ie, they seem to target either hardware icons, like a cd drive or floppy, or certain other areas of interest which don't necessary translate into database applications as a theme. In fact, if some of the VFP ones just looked professional I'd probably be fairly happy with those. I'd appreciate hearing what you guys have used in the past/present, whether it's free or commerical. Thanks -Steve [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Republicans and Reality
On Feb 14, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Adam Buckland wrote: I did go and see the Jerry Springer opera but I'm just stereotyping some of the people I've met on my travels through 47 states and one district! Getting away from talk of stereotypes and back to the original topic, it seems that the writer I quoted in the original post was quite correct. Republicans are recognizing that if they try to defend the President using facts, they will lose. They are consciously trying to avoid facts and instead focus on emotional arguments centering on terrorism, Islam, and all those other bogeymen. http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/feb/13/ leaked_gop_letter_reveals_why_gop_doesnt_want_to_debate_escalation ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/2vbpw3 ) The following is an excerpt of a letter written by two Republican congressmen, John Shadegg and Peter Hoekstra, sent to the rest of the House Republicans: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - We are writing to urge you not to debate the Democratic Iraq resolution on their terms, but rather on ours. Democrats want to force us to focus on defending the surge, making the case that it will work and explaining why the President's new Iraq policy is different from prior efforts and therefore justified. We urge you to instead broaden the debate to the threat posed to Americans, the world, and all unbelievers by radical Islamists. We would further urge you to join us in educating the American people about the views of radical Islamists and the consequences of not defeating radical Islam in Iraq. The debate should not be about the surge or its details. This debate should not even be about the Iraq war to date, mistakes that have been made, or whether we can, or cannot, win militarily. If we let Democrats force us into a debate on the surge or the current situation in Iraq, we lose. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
So, there's our first look at Vista. It does benefit from a lot of good ideas, many of them Apple's, of course, but good nevertheless. It simply doesn't work very well, unfortunately. There are serious problems with execution; it's not polished; it's not ready. It should not be on the market, and certainly not for the outrageous prices being charged. Don't buy it, at least until after the first service pack is out. Don't pay to be a beta tester. ® http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/14/pricey_beta_bugger/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Software firm plans to move to Lansing
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/NEWS03/702140354/1004/news -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Software firm plans to move to Lansing
On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:47 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/ NEWS03/702140354/1004/news Wait: they're moving from Okemos to Lansing? How is this significant? That's only a couple of miles away. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Gonna be easy!
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tt/2007/tt070213.gif -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
OLE Drag Drop Classes
To All, Following Malcolm’s (I think it was him or Michael and I apologise for not remembering) post regarding OLE drag/drop in VFP onto PageFrames where he wanted to flip over pages in the PageFrame when the OLE object was moved over the PageFrame got an idea in my brain going. Hence, I’ve investigated OLD drag/drop further as I’m also on the next stage of the Organizer project that I’ve not touched for a few months. Apart from the OLE Drag/Drop is just plain cool once you can get your head around it. In the Organizer, I thought it would be nice to be able to use OLE drag/Drop as opposed the right click drag drop method that I’ve always used in the past so the demo is a result of this investigation and two classes that can be used anywhere OLE Drag/Drop is required on grids or pageframes All you need to do is drag/drop a class onto either a PageFrame or a grid and this gives instant Drag/Drop without any coding. Also on the PageFrame you get a “Hot Button” effect where the mouse can simply be moved over the page tabs and the active page will be changed automatically even when NOT drag/Dropping which is useful. You can download the demonstration and classes from: http://www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/OLE_Drag_Drop/VFP_OLE_Drag_Drop.zi p I’m going to blog about the development next week after I return from Italy and the full classes should be finished then with a revamp of the Organizer so you’ll have to wait until then to sample the finished product but I’m about 90% of the way there with the OLE drag/drop. As usual any comments/observations are welcome good or bad. I’ve lots of additions to make regarding dragging from Explorer/Windows/ Word/Excel etc into VFP but that will come later on. Hope it is of use to the group. Dave Crozier -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/686 - Release Date: 14/02/2007 07:54 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Software firm plans to move to Lansing
Didn't you read the article? Here's how it is significant: $1.2 million business tax break bg Ed Leafe wrote: Wait: they're moving from Okemos to Lansing? How is this significant? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/14/pricey_beta_bugger/ I don't know about the rest of what he says, not having tried it yet, but: Aero looks nearly as good as KDE, although it demands about three times the system resources. That's a ridiculous statement. First, in no way does vanilla KDE look anything like as good as Aero, although you can make it look that good. Secondly, is the comparison of system resources between the fundamentally different Linux and Windows architectures a valid one? I don't think so. What system resources, anyway? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Same old, same old...
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RE: OLE Drag Drop Classes
Just a note, The classes have a small gotcha if not used in VFP9 as there is a global include file (foxpro.h) which it expects in the VFP 9 folder so just change the include file reference in the classes if it is anywhere else. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 14 February 2007 16:18 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: OLE Drag Drop Classes To All, Following Malcolm’s (I think it was him or Michael and I apologise for not remembering) post regarding OLE drag/drop in VFP onto PageFrames where he wanted to flip over pages in the PageFrame when the OLE object was moved over the PageFrame got an idea in my brain going. Hence, I’ve investigated OLD drag/drop further as I’m also on the next stage of the Organizer project that I’ve not touched for a few months. Apart from the OLE Drag/Drop is just plain cool once you can get your head around it. In the Organizer, I thought it would be nice to be able to use OLE drag/Drop as opposed the right click drag drop method that I’ve always used in the past so the demo is a result of this investigation and two classes that can be used anywhere OLE Drag/Drop is required on grids or pageframes All you need to do is drag/drop a class onto either a PageFrame or a grid and this gives instant Drag/Drop without any coding. Also on the PageFrame you get a “Hot Button” effect where the mouse can simply be moved over the page tabs and the active page will be changed automatically even when NOT drag/Dropping which is useful. You can download the demonstration and classes from: http://www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/OLE_Drag_Drop/VFP_OLE_Drag_Drop.zi p I’m going to blog about the development next week after I return from Italy and the full classes should be finished then with a revamp of the Organizer so you’ll have to wait until then to sample the finished product but I’m about 90% of the way there with the OLE drag/drop. As usual any comments/observations are welcome good or bad. I’ve lots of additions to make regarding dragging from Explorer/Windows/ Word/Excel etc into VFP but that will come later on. Hope it is of use to the group. Dave Crozier -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/686 - Release Date: 14/02/2007 07:54 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
I accept that my experiences in UK are possibly not relevant to the US but I use Excel. I just keep a record of my income and expenditure and then pass it to my accountant who checks it to tell me what I should be including (like heating and lighting for my office at home) and what I will be pushing my luck if I include then sends the results off to the Revenue. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: 14 February 2007 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN Steve -- why did you give up on it? I was fed up with their backhanded upgrade tactics. I've been upgrading every year since 98, and have noticed the software get worse in terms of bloat, relentless advertising stuck in your face, and in many ways I prefered the older versions ( the functionality seemed cleaner and easier to me ). When I hit version 2003 I decided I was done upgrading; I hadn't seen any compelling features to keep going. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/14/pricey_beta_bugger/ I don't know about the rest of what he says, not having tried it yet, but: FWIW, I tried it for about 20min in a virtual machine, and I think he was pretty kind. I hated the blasted thing. My limited opinion on it stands that Vista is just yet another money-grab by MS, and the outrageous pricing just accents that. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP + Vista + Cleartype = problem
Developing on XP I have Cleartype turned off - I think VFP is much more readable that way and it doesn't have too much impact on other programs. Yesterday I started doing some development on Vista for the first time. First thing I noticed was that cleartype (which is on by default) seems to make VFP even more unreadable than in XP (to the point where after an hour of trying it I got a headache). So I turned cleartype off. VFP is now perfectly readable, but several other programs (notably Thunderbird) are really bad - much, much worse than in XP. I've experimented with the cleartype tuner, different versions of vfp (8 and 9) and different fonts. Nothing seems to make much difference. I'm dual booting XP and Vista so the video cards and TFT screens are the same. For the moment at least I'm back to using XP unless I need to test something under Vista. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? -- Cheers Brian Abbott ACA Systems -- Cheers Brian Abbott ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Yep, it's pricey - especially in EU compared to US but I suppose that's what we get for busting their balls on the IE thing. The OEM versions are way cheaper but limit you to only ever installing it on one PC. Everyone hated XP when it came out as well, because things had been moved from where they were in 2000, so that in itself doesn't bother me. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality
Sounds to me like he's been to Atoka, TN, except he forgot the thing about the teeth!G John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:06 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality Adam Buckland wrote: Alledgedly. You take someone nice and normal say from New England, remove 3/4 of their brain, munch up their speech. Marry them off to their cousin, dump them in a trailer park, give them a dozen guns and a combined IQ to match. Get them the largest pickup truck you can find then smash it up so it barely gets from the trailer park to the bar and back again and get them on welfare whilst working. But then that'd just be a stereotype like some people do for Europeans etc Looks like you're a Jerry Springer fan. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: Everyone hated XP when it came out as well, because things had been moved from where they were in 2000, so that in itself doesn't bother me. I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Everyone hated XP when it came out as well, because things had been moved from where they were in 2000, so that in itself doesn't bother me. Many people I know are still on W2K due to what MS did with XP(primarily activation hassles). Vista promises to make even more hassles. Maybe even worse than Windows 2003-- the O/S I've lost the MOST productivity ever to, due to 'security features' that give you absolutely NO CLUE as to how to fix, or even that there is a problem(such as returning 404 errors for every IIS problem instead of a real error-- ANYWHERE). Vista will take a LONG time for mainstream adoption, just as Windows XP did, but I think it'll be even longer this time. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Ed Leafe wrote: I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. That's probably the least of the hurdles facing it on the corporate desktop! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Vista will take a LONG time for mainstream adoption, just as Windows XP did, but I think it'll be even longer this time. I think you're right, as there is much less of a compelling reason to go from XP SP2 to Vista than there was from 2k to XP. I was thinking that when I wrote this comment, but it's hard for me to think of any specific reasons XP is better than W2K... Only a few ideas come to mind: o new 'look and feel'/themes o Easy Alternate IP configuration for NIC's(useful for laptops) o ClearType fonts o Better handling of multiple monitors o Able to run IE7(Microsoft's attempt at forcing late adopters from W2K to XP) Quite a lackluster list, honestly... It makes me wonder why I have XP installed at home and want it here at work... -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. That's probably the least of the hurdles facing it on the corporate desktop! The #1 reason, obviously being that Linux can't [legally] run Visual Foxpro applications. :-) -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP + Vista + Cleartype = problem
Hmmm, I will stay tuned for input from others. Interesting... Thanks for the Heads Up. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Abbott Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VFP + Vista + Cleartype = problem Developing on XP I have Cleartype turned off - I think VFP is much more readable that way and it doesn't have too much impact on other programs. Yesterday I started doing some development on Vista for the first time. First thing I noticed was that cleartype (which is on by default) seems to make VFP even more unreadable than in XP (to the point where after an hour of trying it I got a headache). So I turned cleartype off. VFP is now perfectly readable, but several other programs (notably Thunderbird) are really bad - much, much worse than in XP. I've experimented with the cleartype tuner, different versions of vfp (8 and 9) and different fonts. Nothing seems to make much difference. I'm dual booting XP and Vista so the video cards and TFT screens are the same. For the moment at least I'm back to using XP unless I need to test something under Vista. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? -- Cheers Brian Abbott ACA Systems -- Cheers Brian Abbott [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. Good shot! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: Everyone hated XP when it came out as well, because things had been moved from where they were in 2000, so that in itself doesn't bother me. I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Vista will take a LONG time for mainstream adoption, just as Windows XP did, but I think it'll be even longer this time. I think Vista will roll out far faster than we would like. Many PC manufacturers are providing Vista now, unless you want a very expensive business class PC, where you can still get XP for a while. A friend of mine lost his PC the other weekend, had been using XP home (light duty stuff). All he saw for new PCs at the major retail stores is Vista this and Vista that. Some XP Media PCs are still on the market, but they are pretty expensive relative to what his needs are. Now, if M$ were to do as the Blu-Ray (and in decades past VHS vs BetaMax) folks are supposedly doing, and try to edge into the benefits of Vista to the porn industry we are all dead g! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be Everyone hated XP when it came out as well, because things had been moved from where they were in 2000, so that in itself doesn't bother me. Many people I know are still on W2K due to what MS did with XP(primarily activation hassles). Vista promises to make even more hassles. Maybe even worse than Windows 2003-- the O/S I've lost the MOST productivity ever to, due to 'security features' that give you absolutely NO CLUE as to how to fix, or even that there is a problem(such as returning 404 errors for every IIS problem instead of a real error-- ANYWHERE). Vista will take a LONG time for mainstream adoption, just as Windows XP did, but I think it'll be even longer this time. -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Derek Kalweit wrote: I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. That's probably the least of the hurdles facing it on the corporate desktop! The #1 reason, obviously being that Linux can't [legally] run Visual Foxpro applications. :-) Well, that's not exactly true. MSFT has _no_ problem with running VFP on Linux if you buy a copy of Fox for every end-user. (Well, no more a problem than they have with you running VFP on Windows, ahem...) The place where they're spreading fud is the runtime issue. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I was thinking that when I wrote this comment, but it's hard for me to think of any specific reasons XP is better than W2K... Only a few ideas come to mind: I sill run Pro2k on several machines, but on my primary communication PC I do use XP Pro. Largely to be familiar with it for clients questions. I find Win2k has a smaller RAM footprint, runs fast, and is reliable. But at some point it will no longer get the updates (less likely to need them g) we get today. I also run NT4 Server sp6a, Server 2000 and Server 2003, again just to be familiar with them, and how they all interact. That said, here is the one major benefit I find in running XP and Server 2003 over Win2k Pro/Server... For backup software that supports it, these newer OSes have Virtual Shadow-Copy Service (VSS), which allows me to back up files that are open (I use SyncBack, more on that below). On some PCs I use Norton Ghost v-9/10, or Norton Save Restore to automatically burn weekly images of my boot HDD units, and retain the most recent 4 image sets (I limit the target file size to 4.0Gb, not 4.7Gb, as some DVD burning apps can't handle files over 4.0Gb). On my Servers I use r-tt.com's r-DriveImage, $50, and it works great unless you need to boot off the CD and restore to an SATA HDD. For that I use a separate machine to restore an SATA drive as their CD boot loader does not handle SATA, although in run-time under Windows it works fine burning images from SATA HDDs. Back to SyncBack and VSS, a personal license for SyncBack generously covers you for up to 5 PCs. For business use they want a license per PC (I think it is now $30 or $35/license, I have one per PC). To use VSS you must be running XP or 2003 (don't know about Vista), the source HDD must be a local unit, you must be running NTFS format (compressed or not), and VSS must be running as a service (some times it has to be set to run automatically). It is the cat's meow, and certainly makes XP/2003 a viable choice just to make certain I am getting solid backups of my .pst, quicken and quickbooks files as I rarely close those apps. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be Vista will take a LONG time for mainstream adoption, just as Windows XP did, but I think it'll be even longer this time. I think you're right, as there is much less of a compelling reason to go from XP SP2 to Vista than there was from 2k to XP. I was thinking that when I wrote this comment, but it's hard for me to think of any specific reasons XP is better than W2K... Only a few ideas come to mind: o new 'look and feel'/themes o Easy Alternate IP configuration for NIC's(useful for laptops) o ClearType fonts o Better handling of multiple monitors o Able to run IE7(Microsoft's attempt at forcing late adopters from W2K to XP) Quite a lackluster list, honestly... It makes me wonder why I have XP installed at home and want it here at work... -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I was thinking that when I wrote this comment, but it's hard for me to think of any specific reasons XP is better than W2K... Only a few ideas come to mind: o new 'look and feel'/themes o Easy Alternate IP configuration for NIC's(useful for laptops) o ClearType fonts o Better handling of multiple monitors o Able to run IE7(Microsoft's attempt at forcing late adopters from W2K to XP) Quite a lackluster list, honestly... It makes me wonder why I have XP installed at home and want it here at work... Ah-- just remembered the #1 reason to go to WINXP Pro from W2K Pro-- Remote Desktop. Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: OLE Drag Drop Classes
That sounds like a great contribution to the community, thanks Dave. At 11:18 AM 2/14/2007, you wrote: To All, Following Malcolm's (I think it was him or Michael and I apologise for not remembering) post regarding OLE drag/drop in VFP onto PageFrames where he wanted to flip over pages in the PageFrame when the OLE object was moved over the PageFrame got an idea in my brain going. Hence, I've investigated OLD drag/drop further as I'm also on the next stage of the Organizer project that I've not touched for a few months. Apart from the OLE Drag/Drop is just plain cool once you can get your head around it. In the Organizer, I thought it would be nice to be able to use OLE drag/Drop as opposed the right click drag drop method that I've always used in the past so the demo is a result of this investigation and two classes that can be used anywhere OLE Drag/Drop is required on grids or pageframes All you need to do is drag/drop a class onto either a PageFrame or a grid and this gives instant Drag/Drop without any coding. Also on the PageFrame you get a Hot Button effect where the mouse can simply be moved over the page tabs and the active page will be changed automatically even when NOT drag/Dropping which is useful. You can download the demonstration and classes from: http://www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/OLE_Drag_Drop/VFP_OLE_Drag_Drop.zi p I'm going to blog about the development next week after I return from Italy and the full classes should be finished then with a revamp of the Organizer so you'll have to wait until then to sample the finished product but I'm about 90% of the way there with the OLE drag/drop. As usual any comments/observations are welcome good or bad. I've lots of additions to make regarding dragging from Explorer/Windows/ Word/Excel etc into VFP but that will come later on. Hope it is of use to the group. Dave Crozier -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/686 - Release Date: 14/02/2007 07:54 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I don't know about the rest of what he says, not having tried it yet, but: I have been waiting for VPC 2007 to come out of beta (I heard from a colleague this morning it is now released, I have not checked). But an associate of mine went to a M$ sponsored seminar yesterday in Rochester, NY, and called me this morning with all the crapola being positioned as beneficial for all PC users by M$. Several of her questions re: migrating files with security settings from one HDD to another without losing said security settings were pooh-poohed, as were several other questions by she and several other folks amongst the almost 400 attendees. Although the presenters were linguistically polite, she told me the majority of answers were condescending (now, now, little girl, it really is good for you to not get a clear answer as that would involve deep complexities IN A ROOM FULL OF IT PROFESSIONALS!). And the matter of Vista being so protected it will not run without security warnings popping up, hence the practical need to disable said protections, was asked about. The answer was more political than technical, it was never answered, just danced around. For folks with compatibility issues the stock answer was to simply use VPC with an earlier OS (XP, 2000 Pro)! I wish I had gone. So, once I do get VPC 2007, and install Vista Ultimate, and provide 1.5Gb RAM to the VPC session, I will start testing my VFP and ProComm apps. And, if indeed there are issues I will need to see what happens when I compile them in VFP9 (I code in VFP9, but compile in VFP7). If they run okay then I guess I am going to have to force a run-time update from VFP7 to VFP9 on my End Users, or have a Vista and non-Vista version for folks. And, of course, if I can't get VFP compiled versions to run I will need to have my clients use VPC, with the additional RAM of course. Craziness. Oh, in the Register article Stephen Russell sent to us (see below), did y'all catch the deal where FireFox can't be made the default browser? Very clever. M$ allows other browsers to be used (maybe g), but only IE7 can be the default? Talk about slicing hairs... Technically compliant with the DOJ ruling, but virtually neutering FireFox, Opera, etc. from getting a firm displacement foothold in our browsing experience regardless of what the End User wants to use for a default browser. I hope I find this guy is all wrong in his findings, and my one colleague overstated her concerns after attending the M$ Vista seminar. Okay, back to other stuff... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/14/pricey_beta_bugger/ I don't know about the rest of what he says, not having tried it yet, but: Aero looks nearly as good as KDE, although it demands about three times the system resources. That's a ridiculous statement. First, in no way does vanilla KDE look anything like as good as Aero, although you can make it look that good. Secondly, is the comparison of system resources between the fundamentally different Linux and Windows architectures a valid one? I don't think so. What system resources, anyway? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Why a CPA for taxes was I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Stephen, Besides all the changes in the tax laws, and what is deductible and what is not, especially when it comes to self-employment which is all a minor consideration for the rate difference... The real benefit is a CPA can sit in an IRS audit with you and defned your tax return. The pimple kid from HR Block can not, and you are stuck there defending what the kid input for you. But, just like programmers, there are really good CPAs and really bad CPAs. When I was interviewing CPAs, my first question was how many IRS audits have you defended and won v. lost? And tell me what you learned from those experiences. Dan ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality
They gave you a visa? --- Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did go and see the Jerry Springer opera but I'm just stereotyping some of the people I've met on my travels through 47 states and one district! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: 14 February 2007 12:06 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Republicans and Reality Adam Buckland wrote: Alledgedly. You take someone nice and normal say from New England, remove 3/4 of their brain, munch up their speech. Marry them off to their cousin, dump them in a trailer park, give them a dozen guns and a combined IQ to match. Get them the largest pickup truck you can find then smash it up so it barely gets from the trailer park to the bar and back again and get them on welfare whilst working. But then that'd just be a stereotype like some people do for Europeans etc Looks like you're a Jerry Springer fan. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP + Vista + Cleartype = problem
I know Rick Strahl has blogged on his opinion of Cleartype but don't know if he's revisited under Vista. Brian Abbott wrote: Developing on XP I have Cleartype turned off - I think VFP is much more readable that way and it doesn't have too much impact on other programs. -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Oh, in the Register article Stephen Russell sent to us (see below), did y'all catch the deal where FireFox can't be made the default browser? Very clever. M$ allows other browsers to be used (maybe g), but only IE7 can be the default? Talk about slicing hairs... Technically compliant with the DOJ ruling, but virtually neutering FireFox, Opera, etc. from getting How is that compliant? I'd raise holy hell about that one. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP + Vista + Cleartype = problem
Rich Schummer blogged a couple of days ago about a new font in VS 2005. I'm not sure if the Consolas Font Pack applies to Vista's Cleartype or not. http://rickschummer.com/blog/2007/02/consolas-font-paying-it-forward.html Richard Kaye wrote: I know Rick Strahl has blogged on his opinion of Cleartype but don't know if he's revisited under Vista. Brian Abbott wrote: Developing on XP I have Cleartype turned off - I think VFP is much more readable that way and it doesn't have too much impact on other programs. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Climate getting warmer
Exxon leader: 'Climate getting warmer' By DAN PILLER Star-Telegram Staff Writer http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/16689019.htm HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil Chairman Rex Tillerson told a world energy conference today that there is no question that the world's climate is getting warmer, and said that technological advances and a global strategy will be needed to combat the rise in carbon emissions. It is foolish for individual countries to engage in their own actions because it won't do much more than make them feel good, Tillerson said. It is particularly important for the emerging economies of the Pacific Rim, where the biggest increases in carbon emissions will occur, to take part in the discussions. Tillerson's remarks, to the annual Cambridge Energy Research Associates conference, marked a continuation of Exxon Mobil's growing strategy to make itself part of the global climate debate rather than denying that the problem exists. More than 2,000 people from 44 countries are attending the CERA conference. Tillerson also said Exxon doesn't feel threatened by the rising interest in alternative or renewable energy. We don't feel threatened by alternative or renewable energy, he said. We welcome it. But we have to remember that in the huge scale of energy demand, fossil fuels will account for at least two-thirds of energy consumption for at least the next 25 years. Tillerson said the Irving-based multinational oil giant has devoted relatively little money to alternative and renewable energy, aside from a research project at Stanford University, because we are a petroleum company. That's what we do, and we do it well. We want to be able to add value to new energy, besides just money, Tillerson said at a news conference following his speech. Money isn't the problem in renewable energy. Tillerson didn't offer specific actions that nations should adopt to combat climate change but said technology can provide the bulk of the answers. The public and policymakers are largely unaware of the improved technologies that make our industry so much more efficient and reduce our environmental footprint, said Tillerson, a native of Wichita Falls who succeeded Lee Raymond as Exxon Mobil chairman 14 months ago. Tillerson spoke of what he called a disconnect between the oil industry and the media and policymakers over energy and environmental issues. He noted that while politicians think in terms of two or four-year election cycles, the energy industry thinks in terms of a two- or four-decade cycle for project development. He added that additional taxes on the energy industry would impede investment in expanded energy production. It is important to share our understandings of the industry with the public and policymakers, Tillerson said. He noted, for example, that Exxon Mobil's huge oil project that has just begun off Sakhalin Island on the Pacific side of Russia is tapping reserves first discovered in the 1970s and only developed in the last decade. For all the talk of alternative and renewable energies, Tillerson said, it must be acknowledged that fossil fuels are likely to provide the bulk of the worldwide demand for oil, expected to rise by 40 percent through the year 2030. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links Check out LogMeIn.com, with their free version. I finally let guilt get the best of me and licesned 5 Pro versions, but I still have almost 30 PCs running the free version on my account. And, for the record, as slick as LogMeIn is, I still far prefer pcAnyWhere over Remote Desktop, VNC and even LogMeIn (which I like a lot). I do not use any of these over dialup, but I do have some machinery behind slow DSL or fractional T1 connections. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be I was thinking that when I wrote this comment, but it's hard for me to think of any specific reasons XP is better than W2K... Only a few ideas come to mind: o new 'look and feel'/themes o Easy Alternate IP configuration for NIC's(useful for laptops) o ClearType fonts o Better handling of multiple monitors o Able to run IE7(Microsoft's attempt at forcing late adopters from W2K to XP) Quite a lackluster list, honestly... It makes me wonder why I have XP installed at home and want it here at work... Ah-- just remembered the #1 reason to go to WINXP Pro from W2K Pro-- Remote Desktop. Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I've been using LogMeIn for a while now with both free and Pro accounts in addition to TS, VNC and pcAW. If you need remote printing and file transfer, you need the Pro license. Highly recommended although I do prefer pcAW for it's file transfer. Except when it gives me agita... mrgmhale wrote: Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links Check out LogMeIn.com, with their free version. I finally let guilt get the best of me and licesned 5 Pro versions, but I still have almost 30 PCs running the free version on my account. And, for the record, as slick as LogMeIn is, I still far prefer pcAnyWhere over Remote Desktop, VNC and even LogMeIn (which I like a lot). I do not use any of these over dialup, but I do have some machinery behind slow DSL or fractional T1 connections. Gil -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries to: Technical Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Other Requests - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message has been checked for viruses before sending. - ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I agree with all except the multiple monitors, I have multiple monitors on Win2K - no problem. If you have trouble, it is probably due to the driver. You may be able to get an upgrade. Maybe we need a list of reasons for not upgrading: 1. don't have to worry about being forced to load IE7 with all the problems it causes. 2. activation - no need to call and be put on hold for 30 minutes when you upgrade your hard drive (stupid!!) 3. No need to hassle with sharing since it works in Win2K as it should and XP never did work. 4. No need to go through the new 'look and feel/themes' Win2K was the last OS from Microsoft that worked pretty well. As far as the remote desktop - there are many alternatives available that work great. I'll bet MS could increase their income by eliminating the activation crap and all the people who take those phone calls. Probably millions per year. I'll bet it costs them more than it produces. All they would have to do is imprint a name with each serial number and not allow it to be changed. Everytime it is installed, that same name would have to be entered. It could all be automated and would save them millions. That way you could upgrade your hard drive without the phone call. A stolen copy would have a certain name/serial number and could be easily blocked automatically. I have been using that with my software since 1982 and I have no trouble with pirated copies. I freely distribute trial versions. When they register, I check some things to ensure it is valid and give them a serial number cannot be used by anyone else without that same name appearing on the screen every time it comes up. If I am told about a pirated copy (1 time in all those years), it is easy to determine who distributed it. Most shareware that I have works that way. No need for activation. I guess that is too simple. MS would rather hassle all their clients - or maybe they are getting bad advice from someone who is making a lot of money from the activation nonsense. On 2/14/07, Derek Kalweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o new 'look and feel'/themes o Easy Alternate IP configuration for NIC's(useful for laptops) o ClearType fonts o Better handling of multiple monitors o Able to run IE7(Microsoft's attempt at forcing late adopters from W2K to XP) Ah-- just remembered the #1 reason to go to WINXP Pro from W2K Pro-- Remote Desktop. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] I've HAD IT WITH QUICKEN
Steve Ellenoff wrote: snipped I was and am still outraged at this tactic, so I decided instead of knuckling under, I would abandon them all together. So I did, but now I'm looking for a replacement, and I'm unsure what to go with ( I've heard some horror stories about MS Money ).. Have you considered PeachTree? I haven't used it, but wondered about it myself... -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Software firm plans to move to Lansing
Ed Leafe wrote: On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:47 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/ NEWS03/702140354/1004/news Wait: they're moving from Okemos to Lansing? How is this significant? That's only a couple of miles away. The article, from a MI publication, is basically saying they stayed in MI (as opposed to moving out of state). That's my take on it anyway. I posted this article because they apparently are the company who produced the Camtasia Studio that you used to produce your demos, iirc. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links Check out LogMeIn.com, with their free version. I finally let guilt get the best of me and licesned 5 Pro versions, but I still have almost 30 PCs running the free version on my account. And, for the record, as slick as LogMeIn is, I still far prefer pcAnyWhere over Remote Desktop, VNC and even LogMeIn (which I like a lot). I do not use any of these over dialup, but I do have some machinery behind slow DSL or fractional T1 connections. PC Anywhere? Don't get me started on how many machines their versions crash or simply quirks and PITA's with that... We ship it here standard for our customer's systems, so have 100's of installs that we dial into... Certain versions will completely ruin a W2K install, for one... Total crap. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Beretta and Toyota Prius
The Beretta Man was not impressed with the Toyota Prisu. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvp69lnZbANR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvp69lnZbANR Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, there's our first look at Vista. It does benefit from a lot of good ideas, many of them Apple's, of course, but good nevertheless. It simply doesn't work very well, unfortunately. There are serious problems with execution; it's not polished; it's not ready. It should not be on the market, and certainly not for the outrageous prices being charged. Don't buy it, at least until after the first service pack is out. Don't pay to be a beta tester. ® http://www.theregister.com/2007/02/14/pricey_beta_bugger/ Was channel surfing and saw the Home Shopping channel demoing it on a new Gateway computer (who takes pride in claiming that their support remains US-based, iirc). The hosts were cycling through the active windows (like a rolodex). I wasn't impressed. (BFD--what does *that* do for me?!?!?!??) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Ah-- just remembered the #1 reason to go to WINXP Pro from W2K Pro-- Remote Desktop. Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links FWIW, I'm using UltraVNC just about daily, including it's file transfer and chat, for at least a month now. I love it - and especially so because I have no expection they are going to change policy and start charging for it. Tried Remote Desktop but couldn't get it to work through a modem-router-router setup, which led me to LogMeIn's free offer, which I really liked (who wouldn't s), but was burned when they changed it, so decided to switch to something else that was free and would stay that way. Bill Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
mrgmhale wrote: snipped Now, if M$ were to do as the Blu-Ray (and in decades past VHS vs BetaMax) folks are supposedly doing, and try to edge into the benefits of Vista to the porn industry What advantage would the porn industry have with Vista???!? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Oh, in the Register article Stephen Russell sent to us (see below), did y'all catch the deal where FireFox can't be made the default browser? Very clever. M$ allows other browsers to be used (maybe g), but only IE7 can be the default? Talk about slicing hairs... Technically compliant with the DOJ ruling, but virtually neutering FireFox, Opera, etc. from getting How is that compliant? I'd raise holy hell about that one. Whil Ditto...that sounds like something no judge could look the other way oneven the Bushies cronies! lol... -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
For what it's worth, you *can* make FireFox the default browser in Vista. Back in the day, I bought my first Pentium computer (60 Mhz, with 32MB of RAM and a 10GB hard drive --- I thought I'd never need to buy a new computer again). It had Windows 95 preinstalled on it. After using it for two days, I formatted the hard drive and installed Windows 3.1. Because it was better? No. I went back to 3.11 because Windows 95 was too different for me. I knew 3.11, inside and out. Windows 95 slowed me down, so I went back to the OS I knew better. It was also a bit sluggish. Windows 3.11 was blazingly fast on the new Pentium. Eventually I did make the move to Windows 95, and once I got used to it I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread --- until Windows 98 came out. Windows ME? Thank God I missed that train wreck. Windows 2000 was a bit too different for me, but eventually I got used to it as well. Windows XP was the most God-awful thing I'd ever seen the first time I tried it, but it too has grown on me. I installed Vista Business as my primary OS two weeks ago today. The Aero is pretty. The best description I've seen is it's less 'cartoonish' than Windows XP. I've got a decent machine, but it feels sluggish. I tried unzipping a 10MB file, and the progress meter said it would take 29 minutes. I canceled the extraction after 10 minutes. Copying files is remarkably slow as well. Vista, to me, is different. But it's not the radically different experience that Win95 and WinXP were for me. But it is s-l-o-w. Dog-ass slow for a new operating system on a relatively new laptop. It was definitely *not* ready for prime time, and I do feel that early adopters are simply beta testing the OS. So, tonight I'll be redoing the whole thing, back to WinXP Pro as my primary OS and running Vista in VPC2007. I do have a need to test apps on Vista, because sooner or later one of my clients is going to upgrade/buy a new computer, and I'd prefer to 'fix' my Vista-related issues now instead of having the client report the issues to me. I like the 'WOW' factor with some of the graphical changes, but they wear thin rather quickly. Ultimately, my decision to stick with XP is simple: I am more productive with XP/2000/98 than I can be with Vista. Maybe after a service pack or two I'll be ready to try it again. And don't even get me started on the whole DRM thing... :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I agree with all except the multiple monitors, I have multiple monitors on Win2K - no problem. If you have trouble, it is probably due to the driver. You may be able to get an upgrade. I haven't tried multiple monitors on W2K, so it's probably better now, yes. I tried to load a 3rd monitor the other day on WXP and had some problems... I think that was driver-related, though... Maybe we need a list of reasons for not upgrading: That's the easy list to make. #1 would be 'don't fix what ain't broke', but if we did that, innovation of all sorts would stop. 1. don't have to worry about being forced to load IE7 with all the problems it causes. If you disable the auto-update crap, you can get away with not loading IE7. I unloaded it the first time it installed when it caused problems, but I loaded it when I recently re-installed a month or two ago and haven't had problems since-- I just had to get an update for Ultra Edit, as their installer was to blame for it not working properly, I guess... 2. activation - no need to call and be put on hold for 30 minutes when you upgrade your hard drive (stupid!!) Amen. Make that reason #1. 3. No need to hassle with sharing since it works in Win2K as it should and XP never did work. Did you turn off 'simple file sharing'? Simple, my ass. It makes things just not seem to work-- at least for anyone who knows how to share-- maybe those people who have never shared a folder can figure it out... 4. No need to go through the new 'look and feel/themes' I kinda like it. The updated fonts, clear type, 'hot' buttons, etc., all make the O/S just feel better to me. More a familiarity thing, I'm sure... Win2K was the last OS from Microsoft that worked pretty well. My stance until a year or 2 ago when I finally installed Windows XP on my main machine at home. As far as the remote desktop - there are many alternatives available that work great. Not usually as well nor as stable. Definitely not with the same LAN remote-control experience. Using RDP fullscreen over a LAN, you don't even realize you're RDP'd into another machine unless you try to run a video and notice it's a bit sluggish. All the window updates are almost as good as if you were, sound plays locally, colors are high, no screen anamolies, etc... I'll bet MS could increase their income by eliminating the activation crap and all the people who take those phone calls. Probably millions per year. I'll bet it costs them more than it produces. All they would have to do is imprint a name with each serial number and not allow it to be changed. Yep. They were making plenty of money and getting lots of people to upgrade up from Windows 3.1 to W2K, but then a huge segment of people stopped at W2K. They know this, hence their stopping support for W2K, limiting IE7 to WXP+, etc. Everytime it is installed, that same name would have to be entered. It could all be automated and would save them millions. That way you could upgrade your hard drive without the phone call. A stolen copy would have a certain name/serial number and could be easily blocked automatically. I have been using that with my software since 1982 and I have no trouble with pirated copies. I freely distribute trial versions. When they register, I check some things to ensure it is valid and give them a serial number cannot be used by anyone else without that same name appearing on the screen every time it comes up. If I am told about a pirated copy (1 time in all those years), it is easy to determine who distributed it. Most shareware that I have works that way. No need for activation. I guess that is too simple. MS would rather hassle all their clients - or maybe they are getting bad advice from someone who is making a lot of money from the activation nonsense. Retail software is sold in such a way you don't have customer information usually... -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Ah-- just remembered the #1 reason to go to WINXP Pro from W2K Pro-- Remote Desktop. Far superior to the alternatives, in practice, I've found. UltraVNC is more likely to crash my host computer and performs poorly over slow links FWIW, I'm using UltraVNC just about daily, including it's file transfer and chat, for at least a month now. I love it - and especially so because I have no expection they are going to change policy and start charging for it. I use UltraVNC daily. It crashes my one machine sometimes, and the others the screen sometimes doesn't update, etc. Usable, and my alternative on W2K, but I still don't like it that much.. Tried Remote Desktop but couldn't get it to work through a modem-router-router setup, which led me to LogMeIn's free offer, which I really liked (who wouldn't s), but was burned when they changed it, so decided to switch to something else that was free and would stay that way. I refuse to pay extra for something that should be part of the O/S to begin with. Forwarding port 3389 always works for me, btw. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Recommended Icon/Graphics Libraries Free or Commercial
Jack Skelley wrote: Steve: I have collected over the years some 2400+ icons. I have them in a zipped folder and will email it to you if you wish. Jack -- put them on the ProFox downloads page! http://leafe.com/dls -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
How is that compliant? I'd raise holy hell about that one. Seems to me DOJ required M$ to separate IE from the core OS, which M$ said could not be done without causing serious problems, rendering Windows inoperable. Along the way DOJ paved the way to require M$ to not prohibit competitive browsers from running under Windows. But I do not recall anything that required M$ to allow other browsers to run as default apps when a user wanted to have a browser come up. My gut tells me M$ allowed that for a while to keep the heat off, and now that some time has passed is making a play for default IE7, likely under the it is too tightly tied to the Windows OS to separate it claim - yet allowing other browsers to run (maybe properly if they comply with M$'s security policies g). Hmmm, I thought this was a new OS from the ground, devoid of DOS (like XP 2000, eh?), yet the browser seems awfully tied to the OS again... I smell a long dead fish around here. Thoughts? Clarifications? Corrections? Am I being paranoid? Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be Oh, in the Register article Stephen Russell sent to us (see below), did y'all catch the deal where FireFox can't be made the default browser? Very clever. M$ allows other browsers to be used (maybe g), but only IE7 can be the default? Talk about slicing hairs... Technically compliant with the DOJ ruling, but virtually neutering FireFox, Opera, etc. from getting How is that compliant? I'd raise holy hell about that one. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
FWIW, I'm using UltraVNC just about daily, including it's file transfer and chat, for at least a month now. I love it - and especially so because I have no expection they are going to change policy and start charging for it. I use UltraVNC daily. It crashes my one machine sometimes, and the others the screen sometimes doesn't update, etc. Usable, and my alternative on W2K, but I still don't like it that much.. Guess I've been lucky so far, with these particular machines (with XP/Pro on both ends), and should take this as a heads-up there can be trouble down the road. Well, will have to take it a machine at a time, and maybe try Remote Desktop again (with a simpler cable modem-router-PC setup) when/if I do run into trouble with UltraVNC on some other machine. Tried Remote Desktop but couldn't get it to work through a modem-router-router setup, which led me to LogMeIn's free offer, modem-router-which I really liked (who wouldn't s), but was burned when they changed it, so decided to switch to something else that was free and would stay that way. I refuse to pay extra for something that should be part of the O/S to begin with. That's what I meant s. It's the recurring monthly bills that get me going to great lengths to avoid. Forwarding port 3389 always works for me, btw. Sounds like a good thing to know, so will make a note of this port in my doc. Without checking, I think I'm setup with 5800 or 5900, whichever is the default. Bill Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
What advantage would the porn industry have with Vista???!? Uhhh,, h, sharper images? More detail with all that extra video RAM? A slicker experience for their viewers? I was kind of spoofing anyway, tongue in cheek with that crack. But, I bet if M$ could find some way to horn in there quietly to drive Vista they would whore themsleves to do so G... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be mrgmhale wrote: snipped Now, if M$ were to do as the Blu-Ray (and in decades past VHS vs BetaMax) folks are supposedly doing, and try to edge into the benefits of Vista to the porn industry What advantage would the porn industry have with Vista???!? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
For what it's worth, you *can* make FireFox the default browser in Vista. Glad to hear it. The author of the article I cited was then incorrect, and I had already qualified that I have not used it myself - therefore was relying on what seemed to be accurate info (but even that author was careful to position himself as not knowing all about Vista as well). Shame, it is one less thing to bitch about. But there are plenty of other things I think g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Ragsdale Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be For what it's worth, you *can* make FireFox the default browser in Vista. Back in the day, I bought my first Pentium computer (60 Mhz, with 32MB of RAM and a 10GB hard drive --- I thought I'd never need to buy a new computer again). It had Windows 95 preinstalled on it. After using it for two days, I formatted the hard drive and installed Windows 3.1. Because it was better? No. I went back to 3.11 because Windows 95 was too different for me. I knew 3.11, inside and out. Windows 95 slowed me down, so I went back to the OS I knew better. It was also a bit sluggish. Windows 3.11 was blazingly fast on the new Pentium. Eventually I did make the move to Windows 95, and once I got used to it I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread --- until Windows 98 came out. Windows ME? Thank God I missed that train wreck. Windows 2000 was a bit too different for me, but eventually I got used to it as well. Windows XP was the most God-awful thing I'd ever seen the first time I tried it, but it too has grown on me. I installed Vista Business as my primary OS two weeks ago today. The Aero is pretty. The best description I've seen is it's less 'cartoonish' than Windows XP. I've got a decent machine, but it feels sluggish. I tried unzipping a 10MB file, and the progress meter said it would take 29 minutes. I canceled the extraction after 10 minutes. Copying files is remarkably slow as well. Vista, to me, is different. But it's not the radically different experience that Win95 and WinXP were for me. But it is s-l-o-w. Dog-ass slow for a new operating system on a relatively new laptop. It was definitely *not* ready for prime time, and I do feel that early adopters are simply beta testing the OS. So, tonight I'll be redoing the whole thing, back to WinXP Pro as my primary OS and running Vista in VPC2007. I do have a need to test apps on Vista, because sooner or later one of my clients is going to upgrade/buy a new computer, and I'd prefer to 'fix' my Vista-related issues now instead of having the client report the issues to me. I like the 'WOW' factor with some of the graphical changes, but they wear thin rather quickly. Ultimately, my decision to stick with XP is simple: I am more productive with XP/2000/98 than I can be with Vista. Maybe after a service pack or two I'll be ready to try it again. And don't even get me started on the whole DRM thing... :) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
re: [SQL2K] Replication to Foxpro
Point by point, but not in the original order as presented:
1. The problem is that they have screens that pull back all the data from
certain key tables that are pretty large.
ALL the data? so the sql query code looks like:
select * from tablename.
Always bad form , imo/ime, in any client/server environment. Even if it's
a KEY table, it sounds like there needs to be some other normalization of
the data, or at least shift off to doing a parameterized query that
includes a 'where' clause, and the item in the where clause is a hit on a
column that is indexed.
2. but they say when they had the FoxPro database, the app would simply
open a pipe to the data and they could bring back the first screen full of
data in a couple of seconds, and then Foxpor [sic]would leave the pipe
open so it could smootly scroll forward/backward throught the results
without having to issue another data request.
Yup - thats the beauty of the speed of data access with native vfp tables.
Doesn't exist in SQL SERVER, sorry.
3. Therefore, the application is not built with any form of paging
capability
Ah - but it could be! With the same remote views into sql server, you can
set up the connection properties from vfp to not pull everything, and
limit each pull to 100 to 200 records. Then, as the pseudo-cursor is
moved (ie- go bottom) , VFP will force the odbc connection to get to the
end. There is a time lag, of course, but NOT for the initial VFP
form/screen load.
4. The proplem [sic] they've run into now that SQL Server is the
database is that in order to simulate the scrolling capability of the
FoxPro based tables, the middle layer has to pull all the data into a
cache area first.
OK - so now comes 'the rub' right ? This is where the design change comes
into play.
Going forward.
The set of tables that need to be 'replicated' - How often does this
information change ? How is each record uniquely identified? Have you done
any matching with primary ID's in the SQL table with primary ID's in the
VFP table?
IFIW - I'd take a 3 shot approach to your 'replication' process, could be
done in stored procedure, then migrated over to something else.
1. from sql server to VFP table via oledb
- get a sql cursor (call it diff_a) of the primary id's in the vfp table
2. in sql server
- do a diff on the diff_a cursor with the sql table you wish to push out,
getting only the primary id's, creating a new sql cursor (again storing
only the primary id's), call it diff_b
- create a sql cursor with everything in it that matches the primary id's
stored in diff_b
3. from sql server to vfp table via oledb
- simply append to the vfp table, the contents of the diff_b sql cursor.
This will negate the error you run across with the vfpoledb driver having
the parameterized problem.
Good Luck !
Mondo Regards [Bill]
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Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
trouble down the road. Well, will have to take it a machine at a time, and maybe try Remote Desktop again (with a simpler cable modem-router-PC setup) when/if I do run into trouble with UltraVNC on some other machine. A modem-router-router-PC setup should work as long as the outside router points at the inside router's wan IP and that inside router points to the inside PC... Why would you have two routers hooked up like that? I refuse to pay extra for something that should be part of the O/S to begin with. That's what I meant s. It's the recurring monthly bills that get me going to great lengths to avoid. Yep. I don't care for 'subscription' model anything, and avoid it whenever possible. Forwarding port 3389 always works for me, btw. Sounds like a good thing to know, so will make a note of this port in my doc. Without checking, I think I'm setup with 5800 or 5900, whichever is the default. 5900 is the default for VNC. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
Not knowing your environment, version of PCA, etc., I can't say why you are having such issues. I am running versions on some client PCs as hosts as far back as v-8.0, most are now 10.5-12.5. Yet all work fine with my VPN connections on several of my PCs. I am running v-10 - v-12.5 on my various machines. I never have a problem. If I recall for Win2k you must have v-10.0 or later. For XP I think it is v-10.5 0r 11.0 or later. But I am certain you already know this, therefore the problems lay elsewhere... I'm a developer with supports guys. I had to install PCA once, and I guess I installed a version on W2K that made it crash-- no message saying it was incompatible, etc.-- just breakage... Not at all acceptable, IMO. That said, I know that PayChex Windows version craps out if pcAnywhere v-10.5 or earlier is installed and in Host Mode on a PC running PayChex. I am not certain who between them is causing the problem. But by simply moving that client to v-10.0 to v-12.0 the problem went away with both pcAnywhere and PayChex. Conflicts happen. It is a shame it is impacting you so badly. A viable alternative is likely a good move, but that does not make pcAnywhere a poor product. It doesn't personally impact me that badly, as I avoid the crap. :) There's just no need for it when free, better alternatives exist... -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
re: [SQL2K] Replication to Foxpro
Hi Bill From: William Sanders / EFG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [SQL2K] Replication to Foxpro To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Point by point, but not in the original order as presented: 3. Therefore, the application is not built with any form of paging capability Ah - but it could be! With the same remote views into sql server, you can set up the connection properties from vfp to not pull everything, and limit each pull to 100 to 200 records. Then, as the pseudo-cursor is moved (ie- go bottom) , VFP will force the odbc connection to get to the end. There is a time lag, of course, but NOT for the initial VFP form/screen load. Actually, you can write queries that page through the data without ever seeing that go bottom delay. Select fields from table order by whatever top 100 where 1=1 now remember the last PK m.lastPK then when they click next ... select fields from table order by whatever top 100 where pkm.lastPK ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
my first Pentium computer (60 Mhz, with 32MB of RAM and a 10GB hard drive Actually, I think it was an 850MB hard drive. A HUGE increase over the computer it replaced (which had a 10MB hard drive). Ten megabytes --- I thought I'd *never* run out of disk space on that thing... :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
trouble down the road. Well, will have to take it a machine at a time, and maybe try Remote Desktop again (with a simpler cable modem-router-PC setup) when/if I do run into trouble with UltraVNC modem-router-on some other machine. A modem-router-router-PC setup should work as long as the outside router points at the inside router's wan IP and that inside router points to the inside PC... Why would you have two routers hooked up like that? DSL modem and router 1 were in an attached house with long RJ45 wire to router 2 in separate apt. Access was a pain, and I don't recall all the details, but there was some gotcha involved. I am pretty sure that I did try setting it up as you say, as that's how I generally understand it. Oh well, simpler cable-router setup now. Bill I refuse to pay extra for something that should be part of the O/S to begin with. That's what I meant s. It's the recurring monthly bills that get me going to great lengths to avoid. Yep. I don't care for 'subscription' model anything, and avoid it whenever possible. Forwarding port 3389 always works for me, btw. Sounds like a good thing to know, so will make a note of this port in my doc. Without checking, I think I'm setup with 5800 or 5900, whichever is the default. 5900 is the default for VNC. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
mrgmhale wrote: snipped Hmmm, I thought this was a new OS from the ground, devoid of DOS (like XP 2000, eh?), yet the browser seems awfully tied to the OS again... I smell a long dead fish around here. Thoughts? Clarifications? Corrections? Am I being paranoid? It can't be totally from scratch...it's gotta be old code mixed inaccording to what I heard...because to start from scratch would take MANY MORE YEARS than they already took, costing much more and obviously more bug prone if not tried/true/tested for years. Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Index on Deleted()
I have an index on DELETED() in most of my tables. To check if a table needs packing I look for a deleted record using this index. When I look at a table with no deleted records I'm finding that the line: LOCATE FOR DELETED() ?FOUND() returns False, whereas ? SEEK(DELETED(), 'MyTable', 'DelRecs') is returning True - which is obviously wrong! This happens on all of the tables which do not have deleted records. Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong? (I'm going to change the code to use LOCATE rather than SEEK as an interim measure). TIA John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] You and I are not in the Big Club
You and I are not in the Big Club by George Carlin (Forward by Mark Faulk) http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1070.html (Editor's note: WARNING- This is an R-rated excerpt from George Carlin's lastest special, Life is worth Losing. It's been airing for the past few months on HBO. The first time I saw it, and heard this segment on what I have been calling The Circle of Greed, about how the ultra-wealthy use Washington and Wall Street to rob America blind, about how the rich get richer and the rest of us get screwed, my first thought was if a 69 year-old comedian understands what's going on, why don't those in charge get it? And then I realized: they do get it...and that's exactly the problem. But as Carlin says in a trailer for this special, which was taped in 2005, you can't shut me up, and you can't dumb me down. Enjoy.) There's a reason that education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better, don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the big, wealthy, business interests that control all things and make the big decisions. Forget the politicians, they're irrelevant. Politicians are put there to give you that idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, and they've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State Houses, and the City Halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want—they don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interest. You know something, they don't want people that are smart enough to sit around their kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don't want that, you know what they want? They want obedient workers, obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they're coming for your social security money. They want your fucking retirement money; they want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all from you sooner or later because they own this fucking place. It's a big club and you ain't in it! You and I are not in the Big Club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you in the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged. Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people, white collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about them. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about…give a fuck about you! They don't care about you at all, at all, at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on, the fact that Americans are and will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth, it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Index on Deleted()
On 2/14/07, John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? SEEK(DELETED(), 'MyTable', 'DelRecs') is returning True - which is obviously wrong! Isn't the first argument the value you are supposed to be looking for? If so, it should be .T. shouldn't it? With your argument, it's evaluating DELETED() for the current record, likely .F., and then finding that in the table. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Index on Deleted()
John Weller wrote: I have an index on DELETED() in most of my tables. To check if a table needs packing I look for a deleted record using this index. When I look at a table with no deleted records I'm finding that the line: LOCATE FOR DELETED() ?FOUND() returns False, whereas ? SEEK(DELETED(), 'MyTable', 'DelRecs') is returning True - which is obviously wrong! This happens on all of the tables which do not have deleted records. Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong? (I'm going to change the code to use LOCATE rather than SEEK as an interim measure). I'm going to hem and haw my way carefully through this, so I don't look much more ignorant then most people already think I am. I can't answer the question, but maybe this will get someone a bit closer to it. IIRC, Deleted() returns a .T. for the current record. Since you have no deleted records, you are doing a Seek(.F.) With an index on Deleted(): with all records non-deleted, if you literally do a Seek(.F.), it always returns .T., and a Seek .T. always returns .F. with all records deleted, if you literally do a Seek(.F.), it always returns .F., and a Seek .T. always returns .T. With a mix, both always return .T. If you reverse your index, though ( Index on !Deleted() etc ), everything works exactly as you would expect, including your Seek(Deleted()) I dunno. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I'm a developer with supports guys. I had to install PCA once, and I guess I installed a version on W2K that made it crash-- no message saying it was incompatible, etc.-- just breakage... Not at all acceptable, IMO. I learned the hard way with a Win2k Pro machine as well, tried to install 9.5 I think. No warning, crash/trash. I went into Safe Mode, uninstalled and picked up v-10.0. I installed fine, I ducked a major bullet. Re: free alternatives, agreed that if they exist and work well, use them. LogMeIn.com has been awesome. I use my ftp Server for file transfers. For the few Pro licenses I have I have not yet used their file transfer solution. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be Not knowing your environment, version of PCA, etc., I can't say why you are having such issues. I am running versions on some client PCs as hosts as far back as v-8.0, most are now 10.5-12.5. Yet all work fine with my VPN connections on several of my PCs. I am running v-10 - v-12.5 on my various machines. I never have a problem. If I recall for Win2k you must have v-10.0 or later. For XP I think it is v-10.5 0r 11.0 or later. But I am certain you already know this, therefore the problems lay elsewhere... I'm a developer with supports guys. I had to install PCA once, and I guess I installed a version on W2K that made it crash-- no message saying it was incompatible, etc.-- just breakage... Not at all acceptable, IMO. That said, I know that PayChex Windows version craps out if pcAnywhere v-10.5 or earlier is installed and in Host Mode on a PC running PayChex. I am not certain who between them is causing the problem. But by simply moving that client to v-10.0 to v-12.0 the problem went away with both pcAnywhere and PayChex. Conflicts happen. It is a shame it is impacting you so badly. A viable alternative is likely a good move, but that does not make pcAnywhere a poor product. It doesn't personally impact me that badly, as I avoid the crap. :) There's just no need for it when free, better alternatives exist... -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
M$ Vista Speech Recognition and Programming
Gil! You'll have to wait for the voice recognition built into Vista! http://youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc (Yes, this seems like a hatched job. They probably have a terrible microphone but I was laughing my evil laugh anyway.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Republicans and Reality
Pete Theisen wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 1:02 am, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip Yeah, you and your lefty friends, bring it on. Wouldn't even make landfall before the Navy/CoastGuard blew you out of the water or Air Force blew you out of the sky. If you by some miracle did get here you had better hide from Joe Redneck who will patriotically empty his (legal) gun into your bellies Naaahhh, you would never fight if the size of the guns are the same. How about knives? I like knives, they are so more personal. Hi Ricardo! It's not a gentlemen's duel, for those who would invade the US are not gentlemen. If you invade the US you get shot. According to you pretty soon your population will be very old (they are killing the babies!) and full of homosexuals and drug addicts. There'll be no one to shoot us (you'll be too busy mourning for boyfriend Mike who'll have died when a bottle broke up his ). -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: I just got 3 photocopies of a 1099 from a client. That's notlegal, is it?
I use quickbooks. They have a function to print the 1099. I have been printing on plain paper for years, no problem at all. Forget those forms. - Original Message - From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: RE: I just got 3 photocopies of a 1099 from a client. That's notlegal, is it? Madigan, That's not legal,is it? This guy sent me 3 photocopies of 1099s. Don't I have to provide originals to the IRS? At least he sent you something. Selling 1099 forms is a profit center for accounting software companies this time of year -- they're kinda expensive. He's probably just trying to save a buck by making photocopies. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.shamrocktrails.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: I just got 3 photocopies of a 1099 from a client. That's notlegal, is it?
ken.com wrote: I use quickbooks. They have a function to print the 1099. I have been printing on plain paper for years, no problem at all. Forget those forms. OK, I'll bite. I just navigated to 'ken.com', and well, I sure was surprised not to see the McGinnis software empire show up. s Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Republicans and Reality
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 4:05 am, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 1:02 am, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip Yeah, you and your lefty friends, bring it on. Wouldn't even make landfall before the Navy/CoastGuard blew you out of the water or Air Force blew you out of the sky. If you by some miracle did get here you had better hide from Joe Redneck who will patriotically empty his (legal) gun into your bellies Naaahhh, you would never fight if the size of the guns are the same. How about knives? I like knives, they are so more personal. Hi Ricardo! It's not a gentlemen's duel, for those who would invade the US are not gentlemen. If you invade the US you get shot. According to you pretty soon your population will be very old (they are killing the babies!) and full of homosexuals and drug addicts. There'll be no one to shoot us Hi Ricardo! I know a few people who are still able to shoot. It is informative, however, to understand your agenda. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Software firm plans to move to Lansing
On Feb 14, 2007, at 2:38 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: The article, from a MI publication, is basically saying they stayed in MI (as opposed to moving out of state). That's my take on it anyway. I guess I got thrown by the moved to in the subject, rather than stays put. ;-) I posted this article because they apparently are the company who produced the Camtasia Studio that you used to produce your demos, iirc. I don't use Camtasia, though I know lots of people love it. I use pyvnc2swf. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: M$ Vista Speech Recognition and Programming
What a hoot! I just ordered Dragon Speaking Naturally, latest version, yesterday. I was hoping the symptoms would subside, but thus far I have more bad days than good days. I can hardly wait to train The Dragon, then unleash its power onto ProFox! It ought to be a source of amusement and laughter for all. Thanks for the comic relief. Lynda (wife) was watching and listening, and got as good a laugh as I did. Then she realized that is the kind of crap I am going to have to deal with. Suddenly it was not so funny, until I snickered some more and told her everything would be fine. Not to worry, no regrets. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: M$ Vista Speech Recognition and Programming Gil! You'll have to wait for the voice recognition built into Vista! http://youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc (Yes, this seems like a hatched job. They probably have a terrible microphone but I was laughing my evil laugh anyway.) [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: I just got 3 photocopies of a 1099 from a client. That'snotlegal, is it?
Ken, I use QuickBooks. They have a function to print the 1099. I have been printing on plain paper for years, no problem at all. Forget those forms. According to the QuickBooks help, the IRS requires the preprinted forms for 1099s. I have no idea why it would be required, but that's what it says. I am also a QuickBooks user. I've been one for many years. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.shamrocktrails.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Republicans and Reality
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:04 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: snip It's not a gentlemen's duel, for those who would invade the US are not gentlemen. If you invade the US you get shot. According to you pretty soon your population will be very old (they are killing the babies!) and full of homosexuals and drug addicts. There'll be no one to shoot us Hi Ricardo! I know a few people who are still able to shoot. It is informative, however, to understand your agenda. H... maybe I should polish my English. I had understood that an 'agenda' was kind of a secret thing, private plans not disclosed to everyone. Please enlighten me. Hi Ricardo! You are thinking of Hidden Agenda. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: M$ Vista Speech Recognition and Programming
I'm sure this guy didn't Train the system. With training, I'm sure that your Dragon will Sit, Roll-over, play dead, and speak on command. g mrgmhale wrote: What a hoot! I just ordered Dragon Speaking Naturally, latest version, yesterday. I was hoping the symptoms would subside, but thus far I have more bad days than good days. I can hardly wait to train The Dragon, then unleash its power onto ProFox! It ought to be a source of amusement and laughter for all. Thanks for the comic relief. Lynda (wife) was watching and listening, and got as good a laugh as I did. Then she realized that is the kind of crap I am going to have to deal with. Suddenly it was not so funny, until I snickered some more and told her everything would be fine. Not to worry, no regrets. Gil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP - Vista - Cleartype: problem
Developing on XP I have Cleartype turned off - I think VFP is much more readable that way and it doesn't have too much impact on other programs. Yesterday I started doing some development on Vista for the first time. First thing I noticed was that cleartype (which is on by default) seems to make VFP even more unreadable than in XP (to the point where after an hour of trying it I got a headache). So I turned cleartype off. VFP is now perfectly readable, but several other programs (notably Thunderbird) are really bad - much, much worse than in XP. I've experimented with the cleartype tuner, different versions of vfp (8 and 9) and different fonts. Nothing seems to make much difference. I'm dual booting XP and Vista so the video cards and TFT screens are the same. For the moment at least I'm back to using XP unless I need to test something under Vista. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? -- Cheers Brian Abbott ACA Systems ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be
I actually like Vista. Here's why: It's more stable when compared to my experience with XPSP2. I log 60+ hours a week on the same PC running Vista that used to run XP, and Vista doesn't crash or hang nearly as often. The interface is better; that is less cluttered and a little more intuitive for me to use. I really like some of the newer things in Vista ... The automatic backups, the expanded msconfig, the ability of the OS to 'bounce back' from errors. Nice. Are there things I don't like? Sure. The security nags are a joke. IE7 is pretty, but not as stable as IE6 or 5.5. There are some lingering driver issues out there where things work, but not as well as they should. But overall I think there is a lot of undiscovered power in the OS that will be tapped and tamed over time. Give it a chance and I think it will pleasantly surprise you once you peel back the irritations that have been put in place to protect you from errors the average user would trip over. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Vista, all it's CRAPPED up to be I'll keep that quote in mind the next time someone says that Linux will never catch on, since things aren't in exactly the same place as what they're used to in Windows. That's probably the least of the hurdles facing it on the corporate desktop! The #1 reason, obviously being that Linux can't [legally] run Visual Foxpro applications. :-) -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
