RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
My previous post to Nicholas hopefully cleared up any confusion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:15 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? And my three

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:15 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Moderate Muslim. That's rich. Kind of like moderate Nazis. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:41 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? The U.S. only has 89 troops in Afghanistan? Your numbers are way off. - Original Message - From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: I think 3 weeks is overly optimistic. More like 3 days. Hi Al! I think demand might be down. A lot of people around here have

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Pete, No. It was a plan proposed by the military lawyer IF he was found not guilty. Hi Al! So he was convicted? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed

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2008-11-26 Thread Alan Lukachko
To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Grace amd wisdom? More like bile and more bile. LOL * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Nicholas Geti
There certainly is no shortage of blubber on this forum. - Original Message - From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Pete, OK, then maybe 5 days but I don't

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Nicholas Geti
Number from 2005 are useless; that is more than three years ago and added nothing to the discussion. - Original Message - From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: OK, then maybe 5 days but I don't think much more. According to my sources, there is a shortage of blubber this year. However, you may want to talk to Sarah. Perhaps she may find a way of funding the research. Hi Al! Oh, no sense throwing money after it if it is in

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:38 AM Perhaps you are the extremist, at least on this list. You have this innate ability to turn something positive into something negative. -Original Message- From

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
So in short I was spot-on with my assumptions? You are fairly transparent! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 11:22 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? And you

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
won't do it? You're both old farts. LOL * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
:41 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Maybe you can trade with the Eskimos instead. They can pay you in blubber and snow. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Tue, 11

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Which US president did you actually like? * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:34 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? If there actually WAS a jury! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:39 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Pete, ? Sorry, don't understand your comment. Maybe it's time

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
year because some has to be for domestic consumption. Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:43 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:53 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Pete, Windsor is south of some parts of the U.S. but I haven't heard of anybody freezing to death in Windsor. Hi Alan! I froze to death dang

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:55 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Apparently, the military lawyer representing him came up with a plan should he be found not guilty and be released. He was supposed to live

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
Absolutely. And no matter how much he tries, he'll never catch up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:47 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Alan Lukachko
I think 3 weeks is overly optimistic. More like 3 days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:23 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? And how long would

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Surely you jest when suggesting Massachusetts is a vast wasteland just like the Australian outback, the American prairies and the Arctic tundra of Canada. In these places too you have to walk long distances to find a house. ? Sorry, don't understand your comment.

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: The site is for the 2004-2005 crop year. I agree with you that in that year the U.S. exported 31.6 million tonnes of wheat and was the top exporter of wheat. However, the U.S. only produced 57.1 million tonnes in total for that year. Not sure how it could export 100

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: You live in Florida, right? Warmer temperatures cause the blood to be thinner so the body can adapt to the heat. Hi Alan! That is a common perception. However, I lived in the frozen north for many years (Detroit) and never acclimated to it, although I had been born

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Pete, No. It was a plan proposed by the military lawyer IF he was found not guilty. Hi Al! So he was convicted? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: I think 3 weeks is overly optimistic. More like 3 days. Hi Al! I think demand might be down. A lot of people around here have simply parked the bigger vehicles. The bus authority has added a LOT of service and extended hours. People are riding bikes and mopeds all over

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Nicholas Geti
The U.S. only has 89 troops in Afghanistan? Your numbers are way off. - Original Message - From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Michael, again you post non

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Adam Buckland
And my three nationalities are contributing far more than 1375 troops... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: 25 November 2008 15:41 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? The U.S. only has 89

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Michael Madigan
: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 2:27 AM Apparently, the military lawyer representing him came up with a plan should he be found not guilty and be released. He was supposed to live with his grandparents, a couple who

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Michael Madigan
] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 11:15 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? You're both old farts. LOL * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:33 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: Is that true? What about an aussie VFP/.NET programmer who cant speak French? Hi Geoff

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Theisen Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: Better life in gitmo, assuming that the torture stories are a crock, which I think they are. With a president that supports the practice

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
some neighbourly disagreement with him. Get the picture? THAT's why they live in fear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:29 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: Don't be a fool! I am a big fan of America and Americans BUT I am a bigger fan of democracy and above all of those stands my morality and my conscience. If Australia did those things there would be protests on the streets from every walk of life

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Geoff Flight wrote: There are days I just LOVE Australia and its gun-free lifestyle! Now if we can only do something about the drought... You mean obligatory military service? We used to have it till an 18 y.o. boy was killed by his sergeant I think. The officers tried to hide the thing and

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-25 Thread Geoff Flight
billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: There are days I just LOVE Australia and its gun-free lifestyle! Now if we can only do something about the drought... You mean obligatory military service? We used to have it till an 18 y.o. boy was killed by his sergeant I think. The officers tried

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Adam Buckland
Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: With Michael, strong language is necessary. He claims we have socialized medicine which is not true Hi Alan! Nearly everyone in the US thinks the Canadian Health System is socialized so US citizens who say so are hardly lying

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: With Michael, strong language is necessary. He claims we have socialized medicine which is not true Hi Alan! Nearly everyone in the US thinks the Canadian Health System is socialized so US citizens who say so are hardly lying. It is interesting

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
be it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? The problem is that very few people in the US have a clue what socialism

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2008-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Alan Lukachko wrote: Absolutely agree. Americans have more lawyers than engineers and probably doctors. Put a limit on contingency cases or even outlaw them. Didn't Bush try and push (and perhaps pass?) some tort reform in the past 8 years? ___

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Fred Taylor wrote: Yeah, I had 3 doses of morphine the first trip to the ER, they charged $275 a pop, I think it was. I'm sure I could have gotten better stuff on the street for a lot less. What the hell they did to run up an over $10K bill, I have no idea, but Stephen was probably right,

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Absolutely agree. Americans have more lawyers than engineers and probably doctors. Put a limit on contingency cases or even outlaw them. Didn't Bush try and push (and perhaps pass?) some tort reform in the past 8 years

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 11:24 AM Alan Lukachko wrote: Absolutely agree. Americans have more lawyers than engineers and probably doctors

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 11:24 AM

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2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Adam Buckland wrote: The problem is that very few people in the US have a clue what socialism is and bandy it about for anything that is done collectively. Hi Adam! Ah, and your next post will unambiguously define socialism in such a way that we will all finally see the error of our evil

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2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: health care is delivered by private business with partial or total government funding, fit this broader definition Hi Alan! So this is it? Contract with private businesses to deliver government health services and presto, it isn't socialist any more? -- Regards, Pete

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2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Agreed!! From the POV of health care, big right wing health care providers have consistently tried to scare Americans into thinking publicly fund health care is socialism and goes against American values. Hi Alan! Big is not necessarily right wing. Big obviously supported

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Perhaps, but I'm not aware of any that got any profile. That would have been front page news. Hi Alan! There was a tort reform trend in some new state laws. It basically took the form that if you sue a rich person, an insurance company or the government you automatically

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Boy you said it on that last point---when I was in the hospital for a staph infection years ago, some doctor literally just walked in the room, MAYBE said one sentence to me, was there for no more than 1 or 2 minutes, then left and sent my parents

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: health care is delivered by private business with partial or total government funding, fit this broader definition Hi Alan! So this is it? Contract with private businesses to deliver government health

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
, November 24, 2008 4:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Agreed!! From the POV of health care, big right wing health care providers have consistently tried to scare Americans into thinking publicly fund health care is socialism and goes

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:04 PM To: ProFox Email List

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. snip ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:36 PM Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:39 PM Except if they are in guantanamo. Perhaps you are unaware as to how disgusted the rest of the world is about that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:46 PM Yes I am. Our Prime Minister won't go to bat for a young man (15 at the time) who was sent to Guantanamo about 6 years ago. He is the only one not repatriated

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Yes I am. Our Prime Minister won't go to bat for a young man (15 at the time) who was sent to Guantanamo about 6 years ago. He is the only one not repatriated to his home country to stand trial for the allegedly killing of a U.S. soldier. The U.S. military has

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: You got it - sort of. My family doctor bills OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) for my visit. My brother-in-law, the heart surgeon, bills OHIP through his professional corporation. When I go for blood work, the clinic bills OHIP. The government doesn't provide the

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. Hi Alan! All the fairness you can pay for. There was a tort reform trend in some new state laws. It basically took the form that if you sue a rich person, an insurance

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 3:57 PM We had the same thing with David Hicks - who lives in my city. I've no sympathy for his actions which were stupid but the denial of due process

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: Except if they are in guantanamo. Perhaps you are unaware as to how disgusted the rest of the world is about that. Hi Geoff! The rest of the world isn't even on the radar right now, believe me. Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
Which part of Nuremberg did you not know about? Trials? Due Process etc? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:34 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Did the Nazis

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2008-11-24 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which part of Nuremberg did you not know about? Trials? Due Process etc? Hmmmwhich part of Madagain didn't you get by now ? A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:06 PM Which part of Nuremberg did you not know about? Trials? Due Process etc? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
billion won't do it? To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:09 PM On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which part of Nuremberg did you not know about? Trials? Due Process etc? Hmmmwhich part of Madagain didn't you get

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: We had the same thing with David Hicks - who lives in my city. I've no sympathy for his actions which were stupid but the denial of due process and the use of torture simply makes the USA look like another second-rate dictatorship in the eyes of the world. Obama's

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 5:04 PM Geoff Flight wrote

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote: Doesn't the U.S. justice system guarantee fairness to all? Perhaps I'm naïve in the U.S. system. Naive is putting it mildly. ;-) I remember Richard Pryor's comment about justice. He said he toured a prison, and that's

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:43 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? That was AFTER THE UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. When Al Qaeda surrenders, then we can have

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
PROTECTED] wrote: From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:17 PM That kinda presumes the people you capture are al quaeda. It presumes your soldiers never make mistakes. But I

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
one quarter of British settlers during the 1700's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:54 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Let's keep them

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
of a challenge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:45 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: We had the same thing with David Hicks - who lives in my

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:55 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Sure. Let's give him a trial. We should have shot him on the battlefield

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:52 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? The wire taps are legal, explicitly spelled out in the Patriot act and subsequent

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
it. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
just to shoot the bastard. * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: You got it - sort of. My family doctor bills OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) for my visit. My brother-in-law, the heart surgeon

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:13 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? A child with a machine gun or a hand grenade is no child. Sure, that's what we've been doing

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: AFTER due process. Even in WW2 the Nazis sent citizens of some uninvolved countries home. Granted, not many but at least they did that for some. Hi Geoff! I think the discussion started about some Canadian kid who was by some miracle in the battlefield with Al Q

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
:16 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Yes I am. Our Prime Minister won't go to bat for a young man (15 at the time) who was sent to Guantanamo about 6 years ago. He is the only one not repatriated to his home country to stand trial for the allegedly

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: A child with a machine gun or a hand grenade is no child. Sure, that's what we've been doing, incarcerating them. Now the namby-pambies want to give this guy a trial, provide him a lawyer, fly in witnesses at our expense, and give him the same rights as an American

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Did the Nazis captured in WWII get due process? No. So why should the scum at Guantanamo

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
You mean the rest of the world isn't even on the radar right now from an American perspective? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:05 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Madigan comes across as a bully. Not like the typical Americans I know. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:10 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? On Mon

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
But Michael, would you kill one today? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:14 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Did you frighten any children today

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Actually, I believe that the U.S. has broken the Geneva Convention of treating prisoners of war humanely. Hi Alan! Which provision did the US break, and does it even apply, considering that the enemy is not a signatory? What is humane? Would the terrorists even know

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
, 2008 5:15 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: We had the same thing with David Hicks - who lives in my city. I've no sympathy for his actions which were stupid but the denial of due process and the use of torture simply makes the USA

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: 23 November 2008 19:32 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: With Michael, strong language is necessary. He claims we have socialized medicine

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Pete Theisen wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: A child with a machine gun or a hand grenade is no child. Sure, that's what we've been doing, incarcerating them. Now the namby-pambies want to give this guy a trial, provide him a lawyer, fly in witnesses at our expense, and give him the same

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 24, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote: Madigan comes across as a bully. Not like the typical Americans I know. Like the typical trolls you know, though? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Perhaps, but I'm not aware of any that got any profile. That would have been front page news. Hi Alan

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Geoff Flight wrote: The world has changed since WW2. Due process does involve making sure the person you incarcerated is actually an enemy combatant. What about the number that have been released from there and no charges have ever been laid either in the US or in their own countries? I have

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: Not sure about David Hicks, but the Canadian did not bear arms or engage in hostile action against against the U.S. Even the U.S. military has recognized that. Hi Alan! Who is he and why are they holding him? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Michael Madigan wrote: A child with a machine gun or a hand grenade is no child. Sure, that's what we've been doing, incarcerating them. Now the namby-pambies want to give this guy a trial, provide him a lawyer, fly in witnesses at our expense, and give him

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
doubt you would understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:52 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? The wire taps are legal, explicitly spelled out

Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Lukachko wrote: The fees are set every year for a given health service through the Canadian Medical Association and the various provincial Governments. Most doctors have as many patients as they can handle and are happy with the dollars they receive. If they want more money, they

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
billion won't do it? The rest of the world doesn't remember any of the lessons of WWII. A bunch of surrender monkeys waiting to get spanked by the Muslims again. The UK is working overtime to turn a once-great empire into a Muslim colony. snip

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Geoff Flight
to walk along its paths. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 9:31 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Alan Lukachko wrote: Actually, I believe that the U.S. has broken

RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Madigan
] Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:48 PM You kind of prove the kind of person you are with comments like that. It's those kinds of attitudes that give America (and Americans) such a bad reputation overseas. You

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