Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-17 Thread Fred Taylor
Thanks for the heads up Ted. Don't think it'll help my problem at home, my ISP just sucks.. (COX) Though for commercial, it does better, but still has issues. Fred On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > Follow-up: I disabled 802.11ac on the 5 Ghz band on the router and the > la

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-17 Thread Ted Roche
Follow-up: I disabled 802.11ac on the 5 Ghz band on the router and the laptop stabilized. Go ahead, you explain it. A friend tells me that one of the "features" shipped in this month's Monthly Update was a re-ordering of the priorities for accessing protocols on the Wifi, and that might cause prob

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Stephen Russell
>> To: ProFox Email List >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems? >> >> We STILL have about half our machines at work and my personal laptop, that >> won't reboot properly after some updat

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-11 09:21, Ted Roche wrote: That's what's great about Windows. Make America Reboot Again! LOL!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: ht

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-08-11 09:16, Malcolm Greene wrote: You guys are making me jealous. I've been supporting my company's five (all different models) MacBooks since Jan 2014 without a single hiccup across 4 OS upgrades. No unexpected reboots ... everything pretty much just works. Very boring :) Malcolm RO

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
From: Fred Taylor To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems? We STILL have about half our machines at work and my personal laptop, that won't reboot properly after some updates.  Get the black screen with the

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Bragging or complaining? On 08/11/2017 09:16 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > You guys are making me jealous. I've been supporting my company's five > (all different models) MacBooks since Jan 2014 without a single hiccup > across 4 OS upgrades. No unexpected reboots ... everything pretty much > just w

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > You guys are making me jealous. I've been supporting my company's five > (all different models) MacBooks since Jan 2014 without a single hiccup > across 4 OS upgrades. No unexpected reboots ... everything pretty much > just works. Very borin

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Malcolm Greene
You guys are making me jealous. I've been supporting my company's five (all different models) MacBooks since Jan 2014 without a single hiccup across 4 OS upgrades. No unexpected reboots ... everything pretty much just works. Very boring :) Malcolm ___ P

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > All I use now is a chromebook logged into a terminal server, but it's not > without problems.Seems you have to have a computer with few extensions > loaded to avoid freezing. Absolutely! Chromebooks rock! I picked up a 15" ASUS with

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-11 Thread Michael Madigan
All I use now is a chromebook logged into a terminal server, but it's not without problems.    Seems you have to have a computer with few extensions loaded to avoid freezing. From: Fred Taylor To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Wi

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 10:30 2017-08-10, Ted Roche wrote: [snip] And as a double-bonus, if you had any updates hidden, say because they corrupted your machine, the cumulative update un-hid them so they get applied and, *boom*. How can you not love the company that does this? I can very easily not love the

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 03:18 2017-08-10, Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: [snip] > Windows Automatic Updates. Just Say No. (TM) Yeah, a mixed blessing at its very best. A lot of folks wouldn't update at all if the machine didn't do it for them, but I'd really like to wait 48 ho

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
Likely running enterprise-class package management, with controlled releases, though, I would hope. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > The entire IT dept. is on win10 for 3 months now. No problems with updates > and we get them all the time. Have two home laptops that hav

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Stephen Russell
The entire IT dept. is on win10 for 3 months now. No problems with updates and we get them all the time. Have two home laptops that have fared well also. Dell at work, Acer and HP at home. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > I have an Acer machine running Windows 10 Home an

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Fred Taylor
I spent about 7 hours on the phone with about 7 to 10 different people at Microsoft the first time we ran into that. They were more interested in passing me off to someone else rather than coming up with a solution. About the 3rd person I had talked to at least gave something that works, but not i

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > I have an Acer machine running Windows 10 Home and never had an problems > with updates. Perhaps the Pro machines are a bit more fussy. > Same was true of this box for about two years. Something in this update. It's russian roulette. It's fin

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > We STILL have about half our machines at work and my personal laptop, that Ouch! Sorry to hear that! > Microsoft is really beginning to bug me (more so now then ever!). We have > been considering ChromeBoxes and remote desktop into a Windows

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Laurie Alvey
I have an Acer machine running Windows 10 Home and never had an problems with updates. Perhaps the Pro machines are a bit more fussy. Laurie On 10 August 2017 at 19:13, Ken Dibble wrote: > > And as a double-bonus, if you had any updates hidden, say because they >> corrupted your machine, the cu

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ken Dibble
And as a double-bonus, if you had any updates hidden, say because they corrupted your machine, the cumulative update un-hid them so they get applied and, *boom*. How can you not love the company that does this? I DO! I DO love them! We STILL do not have any Windows 10 machines (and I have te

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Fred Taylor
We STILL have about half our machines at work and my personal laptop, that won't reboot properly after some updates. Get the black screen with the spinning white dots forever. The only common thing between them is they are all Dells. Microsoft is really beginning to bug me (more so now then ever

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Ken Dibble wrote> > > A recent Win 10 update broke the Update History. Could that be why the user > thinks nothing has been installed? > > http://www.computerworld.com/article/3214488/microsoft-windows/windows-10-1607-cumulative-update-kb-4034658-wipes-out-update-hi

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
"Good morning, IT: Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" It would be easier, but it takes so long for them to get their workstations set up, logged in, etc. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: > > On 10/08/2017 11:41, Ted Roche wrote: >> >> >> One of our clients cal

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Peter Cushing
On 10/08/2017 11:41, Ted Roche wrote: One of our clients calls after every second Tuesday complaining the app fails on startup with an "goDataManager is not an object error" message, despite the fact that we've told them for 10 years that means a network share is disconnected, and they should g

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > I would just reboot it again. > > Every couple of months I'll get a call on a Wednesday that my software is > slow, and every time I tell them to reboot the servers and everything is OK. > I've never seen it ask for another restart befo

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: > > A recent Win 10 update broke the Update History. Could that be why the user > thinks nothing has been installed? > > http://www.computerworld.com/article/3214488/microsoft-windows/windows-10-1607-cumulative-update-kb-4034658-wipes-out-update-hi

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Mike wrote: > I would roll back the updates individually, then reboot to see if that > helped. > CONTROL PANEL > UPDATE AND SECURITY > UPDATE HISTORY > UNINSTALL UPDATES > > Look for the most recent "Installed on" and start un-installing. Sorted on the "Installed O

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-10 Thread Michael Madigan
I would just reboot it again. Every couple of months I'll get a call on a Wednesday that my software is slow, and every time I tell them to reboot the servers and everything is  OK.  I've never seen it ask for another restart before. Now i send them an email on Tuesday to reboot their servers on

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-09 Thread Ken Dibble
Later, "Restart Now or Restart Later?" revealed that some of the recent updates STILL were not successfully installed. Restarted. Lather, rinse and repeat the above three times. A recent Win 10 update broke the Update History. Could that be why the user thinks nothing has been installed? h

Re: [NF] Windows updates August problems?

2017-08-09 Thread Mike
I would roll back the updates individually, then reboot to see if that helped. CONTROL PANEL UPDATE AND SECURITY UPDATE HISTORY UNINSTALL UPDATES Look for the most recent "Installed on" and start un-installing. Only other idea would be to make sure all the drivers (video, chipset, NIC, etc) ar