Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Here's one to ponder: I have a schematic that uses an array of SPST switches and LEDs. On the PCB, I want to potentially keeps these as integrated parts, or possibly as separate LEDs and switches. How can I draw one schematic and still have the flexibility to use either physical configuration?

[PEDA] PCB editor DRAFT vs FINAL

2002-02-03 Thread Dan Gill
Hello, I use DRAFT mode in the PCB editor (protel 99SE) for TRACKS and VIAS and PADS. When I use interactive routing with Push Obstacle mode, and it pushes too far, the track or via or pad turns green. Thats fine. But when I move away and it turns back to color, it is redrawn in FINAL mode

Re: [PEDA] export spreadsheet still hosed???

2002-02-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Does anyone else still think exporting a BOM spreadsheet is broken? I exported one a few minutes ago, and opened it with Excel and it's still blank. KB item 2185 says it's been fixed in SP6, but I have SP6 and it's not fixed. It then goes to say there is a workaround, but is the workaround for

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread John M. Cardone
Tony, You could keep the schematic symbols separate and add alternate packages that would have convenient origins to allow correct placement to mimic a single package on the pwb. The schematic should make it clear that D1 is related to SW1. If the single package is used you can blank the diode

Re: [PEDA] PCB editor DRAFT vs FINAL

2002-02-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Didn't you send this same email a couple weeks ago? How about (as a workaround) pressing the END key to redraw your screen? -Original Message- From: Dan Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] PCB editor DRAFT vs

[PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Mark Richards

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Working at JPL on Sunday huh!?? A buddy of mine used to work there years ago. Thanks for the tip. I think I'll give it a shot. PP isn't a problem, these have to be had inserted and soldered anyway! Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf

Re: [PEDA] export spreadsheet still hosed???

2002-02-03 Thread Dwight Harm
The fix apparently was that you can do a Save -- you don't have to do a Save As or Save Copy As. BUT you still MUST do the Save before exporting. You'd think they would have fixed that at the same time. -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Dwight Harm
If anyone else has to maintain this, I think it'd be very confusing to have 2 footprints that together match 1 part. If you do take this approach, at least group the footprints so they can't readily be moved separately. As far as making the schematic ugly with an integrated part, you could make

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Bob Wolfe
John, You should also point out that if you are going to use alternate footprints, that if update footprints is needed to be used during synchronization to update a bunch of updated or changed footprints in a board that the system will remove any of these alternate footprints and put the first

Re: [PEDA] export spreadsheet still hosed???

2002-02-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:10 AM 2/3/2002 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote: Does anyone else still think exporting a BOM spreadsheet is broken? I exported one a few minutes ago, and opened it with Excel and it's still blank. Mr. Harm has already responded, but I'll make some comments. When a spreadsheet is created by

Re: [PEDA] Protel Multi License Special Pricing

2002-02-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:51 AM 2/3/2002 -0800, John Williams wrote: FYI: http://www.protel.com/eproduct/p99se_pricing.htm The U.S. Protel sales manager me how much he wanted the resale price of licenses to be close to the regular price from the company, but the constant specials and uncertainty about upgrade

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Harry Selfridge
Nothing received in Anaheim, California, yet either. Someone here speculated when the offer was made that it was little more than a way for Protel to rebuild their poorly kept records of legal owners. It looks suspiciously like the speculation may have been correct. I had to fax a copy of my

Re: [PEDA] Protel Multi License Special Pricing

2002-02-03 Thread John Williams
It includes one year of ATS. See: http://www.protel.com/media/mr02_multilicense.htm John Williams Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: The U.S. Protel sales manager me how much he wanted the resale price of licenses to be close to the regular price from the company, but the constant specials and

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Mark Richards
Harry, your comments mirror my own suspicions. Right down to the guard dog theory... However, I have to admit that there is little comfort gained in knowing that I'm not the only one thinking along these lines. ; ) Mark Richards - Original Message - From: Harry Selfridge [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Udo Ramfeld
Nothing received here too. Ok. it was a no cost offer so i should be patient , but it was offered to show us the benefits of the new, fantastic , better then ever.. ATS program. So i think everybody knows now what to expect from ATS . (See first word in this Mail) But on 19.-21 February we

[PEDA] Component primatives

2002-02-03 Thread Wayne Trow
Hi All Im sure this has been raised before but: I have component footprints with primitives - tracks, fills, arcs - connecting to round hole-pads for kinky shaped pads. When synchronizing, the primitives do not get included i.e. they have no net. I thus have to go through manually and assign

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Damon Kelly
I haven't received mine yet. (Brisbane, Australia). Order processed on 4 Dec 2001. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is... Damon Kelly RD Engineer Blastronics Systems and Services Infratech Systems Services ...business units of: Texcel Pty Ltd PO Box 3699 South Brisbane, QLD 4101

Re: [PEDA] Component primatives

2002-02-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:56 AM 4/02/2002 +1300, Wayne Trow said: Hi All Im sure this has been raised before but: I have component footprints with primitives - tracks, fills, arcs - connecting to round hole-pads for kinky shaped pads. When synchronizing, the primitives do not get included i.e. they have no net. I

Re: [PEDA] Component primatives

2002-02-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:10 AM 2/4/2002 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote: There was an attempt to improve this in one of the service packs (SP6 maybe) which added the Assign Net to Connected Copper option in the Synchronizer. But in my experience this seems to really slow down the synch. One would expect it to do so.

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:39 AM 2/3/2002 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote: I have a schematic that uses an array of SPST switches and LEDs. On the PCB, I want to potentially keeps these as integrated parts, or possibly as separate LEDs and switches. How can I draw one schematic and still have the flexibility to use

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2002-02-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:07 AM 4/02/2002 +1000, Damon Kelly said: I haven't received mine yet. (Brisbane, Australia). Order processed on 4 Dec 2001. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is... Not here either and they could practically frisbee it to me from Altium head office. Still it was only the 8051

Re: [PEDA] Component primatives

2002-02-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:33 PM 3/02/2002 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 11:10 AM 2/4/2002 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote: There was an attempt to improve this in one of the service packs (SP6 maybe) which added the Assign Net to Connected Copper option in the Synchronizer. But in my experience this seems to really

Re: [PEDA] Component partition

2002-02-03 Thread Dwight Harm
I use the synchronizer (from sch to PCB) all the time with update component footprints checked, and it never puts back the first footprint on the list. It respects whatever footprint is specified in each schematic symbol. -Original Message- From: Bob Wolfe Sent: Sunday, February 03,