You can buy a LOT of beer and blank CD-Rs for the price of OrCAD, Protel,
etc.
Ivan,
CD-R's weren't around in the early '90's, so I bought more beer!
Steve.
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has anybody a PCB LIB containing an ISA Connector 16-Bit ? and the SCH
symbol ready ? I thought this is included in the Protel Libs / Wizard but i
cannot find it.
Thanks a Lot.
Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Michael Schmitt
Baumer Ident GmbH
Entwicklung / Development Department
Hertzstr. 10
D-69469
-Original Message-
From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:19 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: [PEDA] how to expend DIGEST mode
I switched my list prefs to DIGEST mode, but was annoyed to
discover that
the digest is a hierarchy of
-Original Message-
From: Brian Sherer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:03 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Protel / MSoft
My personal reservation to Altium's new pricing structure is that
both Microsoft and Protel have historically used a Toss
Hi,
I had something very similar a few years ago, and it was caused by a
circular board outline, which the autorouter doesn't like. Have you got
any arcs in your board outline?
David Watling
I wonder if government folks will ever realize that laws like these only
inconvenience the innocent and catch the dumb. The smart evil folks always
find ways to circumvent these kinds of things. What's to stop someone from
encrypting the real message in some non-U.S.-legal encryption, and
In the PCB wizard there is IBM XT and IBM AT board templates.
Ron Kingham
-Original Message-
From: Schmitt Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum (E-Mail)
Subject: [PEDA] LIB Request ISA 16Bit
has anybody a PCB LIB containing an
With Protel open to a .ddb and Documents tab selected,
choose New PCB Document, then select Wizards tab.
This will allow you to generate a standard card in several
formats. You'll want the AT card, either long or short.
The Schematic symbol may be available, but I wasn't able
to find it quickly.
If you look in the Design Explorer 99 SE\Library\PLD directory you will find the
files for Protel PLD including Atmel.DL which as I recall contains the info you
are looking for. I did this type of thing more than 2 years ago so I can't
remember exactly, but all CUPL files are there. At one
Hello,
100 ohms is hard to get. For a simple microstrip, the height (distance to
ground plane) has to be about 3 times the trace width (for fr4). One to
one gives about 75 ohms. The easy one is 50 ohms, trace width about 2 times
the height. Burieed lines will have even lower impedance. I
Thanks , Rob. I have installed the free Atmel Protel on a differetn machine
and opened all PLD library files with a hex editor. I have found a file
called Atmel.DL which had the descriptions for all the Atmel CPLD's ,
including the one I needed . I then replaced the full blown PRotel PLD
library
I'm really p*ssed at Protel now , since I've found out they HAVE support for
the newer Atmel parts. It is free to download on the Atmel website, the
problem is you have to figure out yourself what to do to install it in
Protel (it comes with the goofy 30day trial PRotel schematic and PLD tool )
.
I'm sure it's been a best kept secret that Atmel supplies for their CPLD's
and FPGA's the Protel 99se (schematic, PLD and digital simulator) plus
PeakVHDL tools FOR FREE . Atmel didn't care to advertise it anywhere,
although you are free to download it off their website (and you get it on CD
with
I downloaded the atmel tools and noticed that there are more than just the
ATMEL.DL file you will need. There are also some executables that it will need
to be put into the Library\PLD directory. It also appears that the Atmel
massaged version may have some of PEAKVHDL in it, which I would
SL Impedance control has been discussed before. I know Protel Stack manager
SL and Design rule/Signal integrity/impedance constraint can do something
SL with it.
It appears to be able to calculate the trace impedances for you.
I only looked at this briefly, and forget the exact steps I used to
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:29:47 -0400, Bagotronix Tech Support
wrote:
It seems to me the EU solution shifts most of the costs of
enforcement onto
the ISPs. They have to pay for the archival storage to comply
with the law.
The U.S. solution puts the costs of storage on the government.
So I guess
the
matt wrote:
I'm really p*ssed at Protel now , since I've found out they HAVE support for
the newer Atmel parts. It is free to download on the Atmel website, the
problem is you have to figure out yourself what to do to install it in
Protel (it comes with the goofy 30day trial PRotel schematic
I found the Atmel.dl file use by WinCUPL and copied to Protel's PLD
directory, and that worked too. However, it doesn't display the ATF15xx
technology details if you know what I mean. There must be another file that
needs to be patched.
Jeff Stout
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From: [EMAIL
There is Appcad, downloadable for free from HP. It has a section that
lets you
calculate impedances of traces.
Rene
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The other file is in the Fitter update from Atmel, I think just unzipping it to
the Library\PLD directory may be enough to get it to work.
Rob
Jeff Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/12/2002 05:34:13 PM
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Also, UltraCLC.exe (freeware):
http://www.ultracad.com/calc.htm
Good articles on impedance control there too.
Tom.
-Original Message-
From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 7:53 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Impedance Control. What
The Wincupl Atmel.DL file is not working when I try to compile . The one
that works is another file, called also Atmel.DL , from the Atmel free
Protel download . It is in the library\pld folder and that one works all the
way to successful compile. I just copied the Atmel.dl file from the
can someone tell me again how to get a graphic logo to work consistently
on a schematic across a network?
i put a copy of the bmp in the local directory of the project DDB
also inside the DDB (a desperate move maybe)
when working on other machines on the network the logo comes and goes
(when
I have a copy of our company logo in the C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\System\Buttons directory on all PC's with Protel installed, cludgy but it
works, if all Templates have C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\System\Buttons as the location of the bmp file.
Tom.
-Original
thanks
i will try that
Dennis Saputelli
Thomas wrote:
I have a copy of our company logo in the C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
SE\System\Buttons directory on all PC's with Protel installed, cludgy but it
works, if all Templates have C:\Program Files\Design Explorer 99
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