Re: [PEDA] shaped pads

2001-10-18 Thread Douglas McDonald
Abdul, I put your suggestion to my gerber-speaking colleague and he says that it would be easy to hook up the RS-274X in the manner that you prescribe. His only negative comments were : 1) that the definition files might be different eg one user's definition of "complex-teardrop1" might confli

Re: [PEDA] layers in camtastic ??

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Wolfe
Tony, Well (back in the old days) once film has been generated from gerber (or hand tape) they could bomb-site the film for coordinates. However I don't honestly know of any fab houses that still do this. I'm sure there are, just have not delt with any in recent times. But honestly the fab house c

[PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Robison Michael R CNIN
hello, i guess our customer on this board rebuild job is happy with us and has given us a bunch more boards to do. over half of them are simple two-sided boards. with no existing gerbers, up til now i've been recreating these in protel with a stripped board and a set of calipers. this issue ha

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Brooks,Bill
Hi Mike, Actually we have a large number of old 'hand taped' artworks here and use an outside service bureau to convert them into gerbers. There is a company here in San Diego, CadArt Services, that has the facilities and the expertise to do this sort of artwork restoration very well for about 4

Re: [PEDA] shaped pads

2001-10-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:18 PM 10/17/01 -1100, Douglas McDonald wrote: >Abdul, > >I put your suggestion to my gerber-speaking colleague and he says that it >would be easy to hook up the RS-274X in the manner that you prescribe. His >only negative comments were : 1) that the definition files might be >different eg

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Ralf Gütlein
Hi Michael, some kind of semi-automatic procedure for rebuilding legacy hardware would be a nice option. Here's what you need to do: 1. Take a picture of your board using a flatbed scanner. 2. Chance the color of the board plane to white and of the traces to black; save as BMP file. 3. Use on

[PEDA] imported Gerber info missing

2001-10-18 Thread Ted Tontis
I am trying to import Gerber files into Protel, from Camtastic. I have no problems getting the files to generate, but there is a lot of information missing. The text is not complete and there are missing tracks. I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I have tried everything I could think of

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i have heard of this working, if i were doing it i think i would re-draw the thing in protel on top of the imported gerber don't forget you're going to need a good drill file too! good luck and keep us posted Dennis Saputelli Robison Michael R CNIN wrote: > > hello, > > i guess our customer

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Brooks,Bill
This is also how we do it... I bring in the gerber from their scans and put it on mechanical layers in the Protel database. The I place the components on top of the image and move the traces from the mechanical layers to the trace layers. - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Dennis Sap

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:33 AM 10/18/01 -0500, Robison Michael R CNIN wrote: >my question: what am i likely to find when i go over there? i'm >going to assume that there is some scanning or photographic >hardware thats associated with some software program that >converts a raster image into the vectorized gerber f

Re: [PEDA] imported Gerber info missing

2001-10-18 Thread Colby Siemer
Ted, The reason Protel will not import the gerber properly is because of the way the DCodes are done in the CAMTastic version being used. Protel needs to have the DCode listed each time, it does not assume the last used DCode if it is missing. CamTastic only lists it one time until the code cha

Re: [PEDA] imported Gerber info missing

2001-10-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:28 AM 10/18/01 -0500, Ted Tontis wrote: > I am trying to import Gerber files into Protel, from Camtastic. I >have no problems getting the files to generate, but there is a lot of >information missing. The text is not complete and there are missing tracks. >I have no idea what I am do

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

2001-10-18 Thread Clive . Broome
You could always photocopy the board onto overhead transparency film, then stickytape it to your monitor and set Protel to the correct zoom level and run the tracks by tracing over the film. Its a serious suggestion, I have done logos like this and it works well.

Re: [PEDA] imported Gerber info missing

2001-10-18 Thread ICT Mail
Ted, try using...PROTEL 2.8(if you have it) I know this is a "backward step" but we have found that nearly most other CAD/CAM generated gerbers will be able to be read into PROTEL 2.8 (this is so robust and uncaring).just watch out for the resolution ie gerber format that the files wer

Re: [PEDA] imported Gerber info missing

2001-10-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:40 PM 10/18/01 -0600, Colby Siemer wrote: >Ted, > >The reason Protel will not import the gerber properly is because of the way >the DCodes are done in the CAMTastic version being used. > >Protel needs to have the DCode listed each time, it does not assume the last >used DCode if it is missin

[PEDA] OT: stupid question - "AW:" <--?

2001-10-18 Thread Andrew W. Riley III
Hello, What does the "AW:" part mean in the topic of an e-mail? Though infrequently, I have seen this used in the subject of some e-mails. Cheers Drew * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * htt

Re: [PEDA] OT: stupid question - "AW:" <--?

2001-10-18 Thread Ben Uytenhaak
>What does the "AW:" part mean in the topic of an e-mail? Though infrequently, I have seen this used in the subject of some e-mails. AW means "ANTWORT" and is the same as "Reply" but in the German language. Regards, Ben Uijtenhaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gatsometer BV P.O. Box 4959 2003EZ Haarlem

[PEDA] AW: OT: stupid question - "AW:" <--?

2001-10-18 Thread Georg Beckmann
This is short for the German word Antwort, what means answer or response. Georg > -Urspr ngliche Nachricht- > Von: Andrew W. Riley III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2001 07:12 > An: Protel EDA Forum > Betreff: [PEDA] OT: stupid question - "AW:" <--? > > > He