Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Karavidas
I started to type this email hours ago then thought, nahhh. But what the heck: I agree. Orcad was the 'available' application when I was in college and it sure ended up in a lot of places I worked. (Until Protel came along) I think Altium could dust off one their older windows based schematic ed

Re: [PEDA] FW: [DXP] Protel service packs will be free to all users

2002-09-18 Thread "Gütlein, Ralf"
Ivan, it's only the hair that has been cut a bit too short. But, as you can see below, furtunately it's growing very fast ;-) \|||// ô ô ) -oOOo--(_)---oOOo-- Ralf Guetlein Biotest Medizintechnik GmbH Industriestrasse 19 D-63755 Alzenau --- Te

[PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
Hi, all - this is going to be trivial, I'm afraid, but I really can't find the answer anywhere... I've got a PCB, and have selected a bunch of components, which I'd like to be able to also select on the schematic, so I can do some global changes. I seem to remember it was possible to pass t

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Wojciech Oborski
Matt Pobursky wrote: > Well the Orcad SDT library format is well documented (I still have all > the SDT386 manuals even), especially the ASCII format. Someone who is > "programming inclined" could probably whip up a Protel-to-Orcad library > translater -- provided they have the Protel library

Re: [PEDA] KILL THE DAMN AUTOROUTER

2002-09-18 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] OT engineering and politics WAS: converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Don't unsubscribe, just delete this message NOW if you don't want it. > Ivan I like the way you think > > For some reason I don't even see the standalone schematic as being available > with DXP, I think it's been done away with, as in only the full boat is > available. With the integration of

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread vincent mail
okay . who got the format specs . i'll write this thing . i am willing to shar eout the convertro on the forum here for free. Wojciech Oborski wrote: > Matt Pobursky wrote: > > Well the Orcad SDT library format is well documented (I still have all > > the SDT386 manuals even), especially the A

[PEDA] "Capturing the Low end Market"

2002-09-18 Thread Brooks,Bill
Tony... What you said! :) This "Capturing the Low end market" scheme is what made AutoCAD the defacto standard in the mechanical drafting industry The other successful approach is to supply the software to the education industry like apple computer did (and Mentor is doing) to get established

Re: [PEDA] Placement Data

2002-09-18 Thread John A. Ross \[Design\]
- Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Placement Data - Original Message - > From: "John A. Ross [Design]" <[EMAIL P

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread vincent mail

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Wojciech Oborski
vincent mail wrote: > okay . who got the format specs . i'll write this thing . > Vincent, At the moment I have it only in paper form - it's the whole chapter in old OrCAD SDT Reference Guide - "Creating a library source file with a text editor". I'll try to find an electronic version of it.

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i just checked P98 does not write ver orcad DSN files only orcad .sch files Dennis Saputelli -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21

Re: [PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Karavidas
I think you can only do it in the SCH -> PCB direction. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:45 AM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: [PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB? > > > Hi, all - >

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread vincent mail
so far i have a program that can sucessfully read the protel schematic libraries , browse them and display them on the screen. i'm still tinkering with polygons as orcad doesn't know those. still to be done arcs and rounded rectangles. basically all pins , labels , lines and rectangles show up

Re: [PEDA] SV: An IPL to Protel footprint converter - step #2

2002-09-18 Thread Brian Guralnick
I'm sorry Peder K. Hellegaard, But, no one seems to have interest in the foot print converter. It would be odd for me to make a public domain translator when you would be the only user. My 4 questions were very general & I would have done the leg work myself, but, with so little inter

Re: [PEDA] SV: Protel clone on the way?!?!?!

2002-09-18 Thread Brian Guralnick
Why make the mistake of making a Protel clone when so much better can be done with less effort? Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] (514) 624-4003 - Original Message - From: "Andrew Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Se

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread vincent mail
yes yes yes . my protel reader works ( including a viewer. ) i spent 2 hours coding it. now i want to spit out orced files Wojciech Oborski wrote: > vincent mail wrote: > >> okay . who got the format specs . i'll write this thing . >> > > Vincent, > > At the moment I have it only in paper form

Re: [PEDA] SV: An IPL to Protel footprint converter - step #2

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Karavidas
Hi Brian, It might be one of those things where ignorance is halting interest. I don't have any knowledge of IPL (hence the ignorance aspect) so I don't know what I'm missing. If Peder would enlighten this group as to the benefit of IPL, we might say: "WOW, that's great, yeah Brian, do it!!" Bu

Re: [PEDA] OT engineering and politics WAS: converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Joe Sapienza
Ivan thanks for the response - Original Message - From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT engineering and politics WAS: converting protel schematic to orcad > Don'

Re: [PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/09/2002 18:29:56, "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think you can only do it in the SCH -> PCB direction. Ah - that explains it. Shame - it's a feature that would be handy from time to time. Cheers, Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To p

[PEDA] PROTEL library convertor BETA -1 ( protel to orcad )

2002-09-18 Thread vincent mail
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Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

2002-09-18 Thread Rich Thompson
Wow! 2 hours. How long have people been requesting a free protel schematic viewer? A LONG time. Congratulations. -Original Message- From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 September 2002 20:51 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orc

Re: [PEDA] "Capturing the Low end Market"

2002-09-18 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
Bill, Very well said. Yes the software has to work well or at least work well in th emost important areas, and at least be easy to use. "Build it and they WILL come". Too often they forget or not want to sow those seeds. Bob Wolfe - Original Message - From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PEDA] PROTEL library convertor BETA -1 ( protel to orcad )

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Karavidas
Vincent, You'll have to tell us where you put it. If you can't stick it somewhere, email it directly to me and I can pop it on my website. It would be KILLER if you got the translation TO Orcad in place. Protel should buy it from you if it works. Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.Enc

[PEDA] Warning to DXP Users re P99SE files

2002-09-18 Thread JaMi Smith
THIS MESSAGE CROSS - LINKED TO 3 FORUMS PLEASE RESPOND SEPERATELY Hi All, Just had a very scary thing happen to me, and I am not quite sure where to report it, since it appears that the DXP Forum has dissappeared (or been very quiet), so I am posting this to PEDA, DXP Fourm (if it is still ther

Re: [PEDA] Warning to DXP Users re P99SE files

2002-09-18 Thread Brian Sherer
JaMi; To date, all releases of Protel I've loaded have caused .PCB and .SCH files to open under the highest level Protel installed. Maybe it simply changes the file type association option under Windows?? I can't speak to the other issues (which might have sprung from "The Fog of War" at 5:49 AM

Re: [PEDA] PROTEL library convertor BETA -1 ( protel to orcad )

2002-09-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
we are collectively (i am sure) impressed and grateful the file was not attached, probably stripped by automation to protect us from exe's you should be able to post it to the yahoo protel group i would think tony's offer is also appreciated what is your target orcad version? assuming it is S

[PEDA] How do I change the default font in PCB Lib

2002-09-18 Thread JaMi Smith
Hi All, How do I change the default font size (height and thickness) in the Component Libraries. I asked this question here long ago and was told to just do the "global" edit once everything was imported, and while I do, recently, I have had a problem with not being able to do something, which b

Re: [PEDA] How do I change the default font in PCB Lib

2002-09-18 Thread Simon Peacock
The how to is simple.. you need to edit the default primatives Tools > Preferences.. > Default Primatives.. menu. you have to change the font for every text string type sorry, but as you also save it, you only have to do it once, each time you upgrade you reload the dft file and its fixed. If y

Re: [PEDA] Selective tenting on one side only

2002-09-18 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:15 PM 18/09/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith said: >Hi All, > >Can I selectively tent only one side of a via, without having to tent the >entire via and then manually go in there and put a little round pad on the >solder mask layer on only one side of the hole, to prevent mask on that >side. (My first

[PEDA] Selective tenting on one side only

2002-09-18 Thread JaMi Smith
Hi All, Can I selectively tent only one side of a via, without having to tent the entire via and then manually go in there and put a little round pad on the solder mask layer on only one side of the hole, to prevent mask on that side. (My first mistake may be in assuming that a pad on the solderm

Re: [PEDA] Warning to DXP Users re P99SE files

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Karavidas
The DXP list is alive and well I think, not sure why you think it's dead. Maybe you've been kicked off! (Just kidding) What was the file type you opened which launched DXP? I don't think it could have been a DDB file. (I can't remember if you use DDBs or not) How many backups do you have the sys

Re: [PEDA] Selective tenting on one side only

2002-09-18 Thread Kulajew Waldemar
JaMi, the question you brough up was discussed here a long time ago. For I was a part of the discussion it is still in my mind. AFAIK there is no way to automatize that. One of the gurus out there showed me a way to handle it manually. Step 1. create a soldermask design rule with and

Re: [PEDA] Warning to DXP Users re P99SE files

2002-09-18 Thread "Gütlein, Ralf"
JaMi, you wonder why some files are disrupted? Or vaporized? You gave the answer all by yourself ;-) Or was it a Freudian? Chrs, Ralf > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I went into Power Desk 4 Pro (souped up MS Exploder), and * * * * * * * * *