Re: [OT] What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/28/2014 09:16 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: I remember approx. 10 years ago a neighboring dept. at my work effectively killed our 10 MB/s Ethernet segment with such traffic (due to a misconfigured switch/router?). Running an ethernet analyzer showed a single X11 host-server session occupied

Re: [OT] What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: Only the most primitive X11 apps are at all fast over network forwarding. If the app uses any modern toolkit, then it's basically just sending a bunch of bitmaps over the wire (changes), which would be fine, but X11

Re: [OT] What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/30/2014 07:36 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Hmm. I'm not sure that it's necessarily that bad; I've done 3G-based X11 forwarding fairly successfully on occasion. Yes, it's potentially quite slow, but it certainly works - I've used SciTE, for instance, and I've used some GTK2 apps without

Re: [OT] What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Torrie
I highly recommend the talk by Daniel Stone who used to be a core X.org developer. He explains it quite well how X is used currently, and why it has problems and why they are considered so hard to fix that Wayland (and Mir) was created. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44 One

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM, CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote: The nuitka file starts with #!C:\Python27_32\python.exe and is a Python script. It says in a docstring, This is the main program of Nuitka, it checks the options and then translates one or more modules to a C++ source

Fwd: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-28 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused as to why it's not just a .py file. On Linux, the `nuitka` script would be run. Things in $PATH tend not to have an extension, and you don’t need one to run Python. (you can’t import files that don’t end in .py, though)

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-28 Thread Gisle Vanem
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link back to my home LAN. Doing X11 calls over a network could really be a nuisance for others. And an archaic design

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Gisle Vanem gva...@yahoo.no wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link back to my home LAN. Doing X11 calls over a

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-28 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.11309.1403968204.18130.python-l...@python.org, Gisle Vanem gva...@yahoo.no wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link back to my

What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
(Trying again, simpler and cleaner post) Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython GUI application in Python that uses several 3rd party modules into a small and faster compiled-to-C executable? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote: (Trying again, simpler and cleaner post) Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython GUI application in Python that uses several 3rd party modules into a small and faster compiled-to-C executable? Yes, you can.

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:14:39 AM UTC+5:30, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Hello, On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) CM wrote: (Trying again, simpler and cleaner post) Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython GUI application in Python that uses several 3rd party modules into a

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:10:25 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: If no one speaks up (with hard specific data!) for the technologies you are considering (eg PyPy, Nuitka etc) then I would conclude that they are not yet ready for prime-time/ your use-case A silly conclusion. The OP's use-case is quite

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report how that went. We're eager to know how that would go very much. But unlike you, we don't have need to transform wxPython GUI application in Python into an executable. So, you are

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:06:36 -0700, CM wrote: On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report how that went. We're eager to know how that would go very much. But unlike you, we don't have need to transform wxPython GUI

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/27/2014 09:06 PM, CM wrote: On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report how that went. We're eager to know how that would go very much. But unlike you, we don't have need to transform wxPython GUI application in

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
On Friday, June 27, 2014 11:09:11 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Having said that, I think that the OP's question is probably misguided. Thanks, Steven, for the input. It very well might be. I'll give a little more information. He or she gives the impression of expecting PyPy or

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:58:04 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: On 06/27/2014 09:06 PM, CM wrote: On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report how that went. We're eager to know how that would go very much. But

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
I'm not a Windows user, so I can't give detailed step-by-step mouse over this menu, click this button instructions, but you need to open a command line terminal. (command.com or cmd.exe, I'm not *quite* that at sea! :D Close, but I am used to using the command line in Windows.

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/27/2014 09:44 PM, CM wrote: Additionally, in most GUI apps (although not all), the main bottleneck is usually not the programming language but the user. GUI apps tend to spend 95% of their time idling, waiting for the user. Its been a *long* time since the GUI framework itself has

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:27:02 AM UTC+5:30, CM wrote: I'm not a Windows user, so I can't give detailed step-by-step mouse over this menu, click this button instructions, but you need to open a command line terminal. (command.com or cmd.exe, I'm not *quite* that at sea! :D

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Stefan Behnel
CM, 28.06.2014 05:57: Now type nuitka --recurse-all something_or_other.py and hit Enter. What happens? I did that and the message is: 'nuitka' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. which makes sense because some kind of

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:23:03 AM UTC-4, Stefan Behnel wrote: There should be a folder Python27/Scripts that contains the executable programs that Python packages install. Thank you, yes, it's there. But there are two files: nuitka (I don't see an extension and don't know the file

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/27/2014 09:44 PM, CM wrote: Additionally, in most GUI apps (although not all), the main bottleneck is usually not the programming language but the user. GUI apps tend to spend 95% of their time idling, waiting for

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:23:03 AM UTC-4, Stefan Behnel wrote: There should be a folder Python27/Scripts that contains the executable programs that Python packages install. Thank you, yes, it's there. But there are two

Re: What can Nuitka do?

2014-06-27 Thread CM
Just add Scripts to path (not Scripts/nuitka), and it should run nuitka.bat. I would guess that the one without an extension is a Unix shell script of some sort; have a look at it, see if it's a text file that begins #!/bin/sh or similar. Most likely the file sizes of nuitka and