Re: [qmailtoaster] Can't locate Crypt/OpenSSL/Bignum.pm

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

I wish the stock toaster used RPMFORGE for perl modules. yum is so much
easier (and you can tell what files belong to which package). ;)


1) Not all distros support yum
2) RPMForge doesn't support all distros we support
3) Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum is a dep for Mail::DomainKeys and should
have been installed automagically by CPAN.

Sucks that CPAN isn't doing it's part of the equation.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] changing form djbdns to bind

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

I always recommend the use of forwarders. The DNS System only works
because of all the caching, if everyone went to the root name servers
for every query, we'd flood the system. I always install bind,
bind-chroot  caching-nameserver.

I also change options to the following:

options {
   directory /var/named;
   dump-file /var/named/data/cache_dump.db;
   statistics-file /var/named/data/named_stats.txt;
   forward only;
   forwarders { DNSIP1; DNSIP2; };
   allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; };
   version Smart Ass Remark;
};


Thanks,
Erik

On 2/4/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Eric Shubes wrote:
 bind-chroot is excess (give a bit more security, but the setup is more
 complicated).

 Apparently I missed something (again). What's there to set up? I just
 install it and it runs.


Back in times to RHEL2 it was required to do additional setup to get
Bind chrooted correctly. I'm not sure that installing bind-chroot will
do all the work required, but I hadn't used it since that old times though.

 It is more important to add to /etc/named.conf the following:

 to the options { }; clause:

 options {
 allow-transfer{ none; };
 allow-notify { none; };
 allow-recursion { 127.0.0.0/8; your-subnet/mask; };
 version Mind your own business!;
 };

 What does this do? Is it needed if the toaster's behind a firewall? How
 important is it?

It restricts access to Bind only for specified subnets (important),
refuses to allow IXRF zone transfers (not so important in case of just
caching nameserver, but it wouldn't hurt anyway), and prevents hackers
from querying the version of the Bing you've got (very important).

 Someone (EE I think) on the list a while back recommending forward first
 and forwarders for caching options too.

It is just a matter of habbit. Caching nameserver can do all the
recursion required to resolve a hostname by itself. But it can also use
DNS servers specified by admin to do resolving (forwarders). It is up to
admin to decide, which method to use.

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IT Department,
Lavtech Corp.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Sending of message failed

2007-02-05 Thread Istvan Kope

Istvan Kope wrote:

Warren (mailing lists) wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

Istvan Kope wrote:

A have a Qmailtoaster installation on Centos 4.3.
It worked excellent for a couple of months but since yesterday 
clients started to fail sending messages with Thunderbird giving 
the following message:

Sending of message failed.
The message could not be sent beacuse connecting to SMTP server 
mail.hidraulica.ro failed. The server may be unavailable or 
refusing SMTP connections.



I didn't make any changes to the server. There is no problem with 
receiving messages. I don't know what to look for in the log. Since 
now I don't see in the log any error, or failure or anything...
If you're sending from somewhere that has a dynamic IP (your house, 
cable modem, DSL, etc.) then zen.spamhaus is probably blocking it. 
Remove that entry from your blacklists file and try.


Jave (and Istvan),

There seems to be a problem with the blacklists servers.  I had to 
remove all but -r bl.spamcop.net from my blacklists file this 
morning to get SMTP to work in a timely fashion.


Anyone know what is up with the blacklist servers or if we should be 
moving to different ones?


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Indeed it was the problem with the one of the blacklist servers. I 
figured that out after swearing for 3 hours and reading 1000 threads 
on the mailing list.
Also there was in the log /var/log/qmail/smtp/current , status 256 
instead of  status 0 of the sent mails, which suppose to be a time out 
or something. Maybe someone can confirm it.


I your opinion, when the email functionality is critical, does it 
worth to use blacklists or not?
I had quite a few situations when critical mails didn't arrive because 
of this blacklists, then I said is better to receive more spam, than 
miss critical mails.

Some experts say that SpamAssassin is a bullsh*t. Is that correct??
Which blacklists are 100% accurate(they never block a non-spam), even 
if they are weaker than others??
I see that the latest realease of qmail-toaster is using only 
zen.spamhaus and according to Jake is blocking dynamic IP-s. Why did 
you decide to use this blacklist in the latest release??


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Can anyone answer to my questions? Or at least give me your opinion...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Sending of message failed

2007-02-05 Thread Jake Vickers

Istvan Kope wrote:




I your opinion, when the email functionality is critical, does it 
worth to use blacklists or not?
I had quite a few situations when critical mails didn't arrive 
because of this blacklists, then I said is better to receive more 
spam, than miss critical mails.

Some experts say that SpamAssassin is a bullsh*t. Is that correct??
Which blacklists are 100% accurate(they never block a non-spam), even 
if they are weaker than others??
I see that the latest realease of qmail-toaster is using only 
zen.spamhaus and according to Jake is blocking dynamic IP-s. Why did 
you decide to use this blacklist in the latest release??

Sorry, I missed these. Been traveling a bit lately.
Are blacklists worth it? That's all a matter of opinion. The people over 
on the Spamassassin mailing list disagree with blocking messages on the 
SMTP level like QMT does with the blacklists; I've personally found that 
using 1 or maybe 2 works for me and blocks probably around 70%-90% of my 
spam.
And remember: everyone has an opinion and no one has to be qualified to 
give it, and that there are 3 sides to every story - yours, mine, and 
the truth. I personally like Spamassasin. I added some additional rules 
from Rules Emporium, enabled URIDNSBL, train my Bayes, and wrote a few 
custom rules and it has worked for me decently. It's not perfect, but it 
does okay.
URIDNSBL was a great addition, and training your Bayes is also a very 
good thing to do. I even purchased a new domain that I use to go find 
spam (post on the newsgroups, embed it in white text in a web page, 
etc.) and the spam will start rolling in. I then feed all the messages 
to this account to sa-learn nightly, as well as feed good emails to it 
as well (such as a couple mailing lists).
I probably still get a total (for all users and domains on 1 server, in 
the area of 300 users who do silly things like enter their email 
addresses on cards at the store for mailers, or enter their email 
address when they want to win free stuff online) of about 30-50 spam 
messages a day that actually get through. I don't think there's an easy 
way to see how many are blocked at the SMTP level, but by doing some 
math (and using cat/grep/wc) I can say that roughly 19,200 messages a 
day are block on the SMTP level by the blacklists. And here's my spam stats:


Email:   232678  Autolearn: 63457  AvgScore:  11.39  AvgScanTime:  1.77 sec
Spam:110621  Autolearn: 39859  AvgScore:  24.74  AvgScanTime:  1.75 sec
Ham: 122057  Autolearn: 23598  AvgScore:  -0.71  AvgScanTime:  1.79 sec

So you can see that about half the emails that get past the blacklist 
are marked as spam in some way/shape/form. I do get false positives, but 
have weeded most of those out by utilizing a whitelist system.


And to your last question, why spamhaus was used in the last release if 
it's blocking dynamic IP addresses QMT has no control over what the 
various other people do. Spamhaus just changed their policy the last 
week or so ago.  The QMT project is just an easy way for you to get 
QMail installed, and you get what a couple of us think are the best 
settings as default. If you read any of the messages or the wiki, you'll 
see that the first thing we tell everyone is to configure it for your 
needs. Spamhaus was great up until a week or so ago. So it was used. 
It's also no great secret that some disagreements are aired on the 
development list. Those who have input/develop/help with the project do 
not always agree with what options/changes are made as well. Once again, 
we all have our own opinions, and you (by downloading the packages) are 
getting in what our opinion is a usable mail system. It works for the 
majority of the people. Does it work for me? No - I've customized mine 
just about every way you can think of. That does work for me.
If emails are ABSOLUTELY critical (and they usually are these days), I'd 
suggest not blocking any on the SMTP level and concentrating your 
efforts on scoring the messages. If you're using the spambox option, set 
the delete flag to a very high number. That way if a message does get 
scored as spam, it gets put in the Spam folder instead of just deleted 
and the user can still get the email (and you can tweak the system to 
keep if from happening again).

Hopefully that answered your questions.


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

Dear Eric,

I've been tried to run the qtp-newmodel script to upgrade my qmailtoaster. 
But I gave me the following error. I had run over to file at line 357: still 
cannot guess what's the script failed on doing.


Could you gave me some clues ??

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /usr/sbin/qtp-newmodel
qtp-newmodel v0.2.4 starting Mon Feb  5 19:54:26 WIT 2007
qtp-whatami v0.2.2
DISTRO=CentOS
OSVER=4.3
ARCH=x86_64
BUILD_DIST=cnt4064
BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
This machine's OS is supported and has been tested
Let's get on with it!
Do you want to include development packages?
(This is *not* recommended for production servers)
Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) y / [n]|s / b / q : yes
Getting package lists ...

qmail Toaster is an integrated distribution.
Packages are preconfigured for the whole distro.
As a result, a partial install might be misconfigured.
Upgrading all packages to their latest version is strongly recommended.
Now that you've been warned, we will proceed with package selection ...

/usr/sbin/qtp-newmodel: line 357: 1.2
zlib-1.2.3-1: syntax error in expression (error token is .2
zlib-1.2.3-1)

Best Regards,

David J. 



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 Dear Eric,
 
 I've been tried to run the qtp-newmodel script to upgrade my
 qmailtoaster. But I gave me the following error. I had run over to file
 at line 357: still cannot guess what's the script failed on doing.
 
 Could you gave me some clues ??
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /usr/sbin/qtp-newmodel
 qtp-newmodel v0.2.4 starting Mon Feb  5 19:54:26 WIT 2007
 qtp-whatami v0.2.2
 DISTRO=CentOS
 OSVER=4.3
 ARCH=x86_64
 BUILD_DIST=cnt4064
 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
 This machine's OS is supported and has been tested
 Let's get on with it!
 Do you want to include development packages?
 (This is *not* recommended for production servers)
 Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) y / [n]|s / b / q : yes
 Getting package lists ...
 
 qmail Toaster is an integrated distribution.
 Packages are preconfigured for the whole distro.
 As a result, a partial install might be misconfigured.
 Upgrading all packages to their latest version is strongly recommended.
 Now that you've been warned, we will proceed with package selection ...
 
 /usr/sbin/qtp-newmodel: line 357: 1.2
 zlib-1.2.3-1: syntax error in expression (error token is .2
 zlib-1.2.3-1)
 
 Best Regards,
 
 David J.
 

You've found a defect, David. Congrats! Before we get to your solution, let
me make a bit of an announcement.

While it's not yet official, I've implemented Trac for the qmailtoaster-plus
project at http://trac.shubes.net/qtp. When you visit there, you'll see some
(imo) very cool things, including a New Ticket tab. Please do me a favor
and try creating a Ticket for this defect. It'll be the very first one (I
haven't even done a test ticket yet), so if you have a problem, don't be
upset. Simply let me know what problems you may have with it, and what you
generally think of it. Thanks for being a guinea pig.

You might also notice while you're there that there's a Browse Source tab
which allows you to browse the SVN repository in a powerful way. While you
can browse (only) the latest revision at http://svn.shubes.net/qtp, Trac
gives you visibility of all revisions. If you browse to
releases/your_qtp-release/bin/qtp-newmodel), you'll see the exact same
code that you're running. Scroll down to line 357, and there's the culprit.
Pretty cool.

In this case, the defect is in the compare_versions function, which was
added with the enhancement for development packages (the change log should
probably reflect this, but doesn't).

Without looking at the code in much detail, I can tell that the problem lies
with version numbering. This routine assumes (erroneously) that packages
have a version number that conforms to n.n.n-n.n.n format. While this is
true for toaster packages, it's not true for other packages such as zlib
which have both non-toaster and toaster versions. Why the toaster version of
zlib isn't named zlib-toaster, I've no idea. I also don't know what the
difference is between the toaster and non-toaster versions. I think it's
safe to say that you probably want the toaster version though (that's what
I'm running).

If your toaster is not currently deployed (running live), the fix is easy.
Simply
# rpm -e --nodeps zlib
to remove the existing package. The toaster's zlib should be automatically
selected and installed, and away you go.

If your toaster is running live, I can get a fix committed to svn right away
(today, probably in a couple hours).

Let me know your situation.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Sending of message failed

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Jake Vickers wrote:
 Istvan Kope wrote:


 I your opinion, when the email functionality is critical, does it
 worth to use blacklists or not?
 I had quite a few situations when critical mails didn't arrive
 because of this blacklists, then I said is better to receive more
 spam, than miss critical mails.
 Some experts say that SpamAssassin is a bullsh*t. Is that correct??
 Which blacklists are 100% accurate(they never block a non-spam), even
 if they are weaker than others??
 I see that the latest realease of qmail-toaster is using only
 zen.spamhaus and according to Jake is blocking dynamic IP-s. Why did
 you decide to use this blacklist in the latest release??
 Sorry, I missed these. Been traveling a bit lately.
 Are blacklists worth it? That's all a matter of opinion. The people over
 on the Spamassassin mailing list disagree with blocking messages on the
 SMTP level like QMT does with the blacklists; I've personally found that
 using 1 or maybe 2 works for me and blocks probably around 70%-90% of my
 spam.
 And remember: everyone has an opinion and no one has to be qualified to
 give it, and that there are 3 sides to every story - yours, mine, and
 the truth. I personally like Spamassasin. I added some additional rules
 from Rules Emporium, enabled URIDNSBL, train my Bayes, and wrote a few
 custom rules and it has worked for me decently. It's not perfect, but it
 does okay.
 URIDNSBL was a great addition, and training your Bayes is also a very
 good thing to do. I even purchased a new domain that I use to go find
 spam (post on the newsgroups, embed it in white text in a web page,
 etc.) and the spam will start rolling in. I then feed all the messages
 to this account to sa-learn nightly, as well as feed good emails to it
 as well (such as a couple mailing lists).
 I probably still get a total (for all users and domains on 1 server, in
 the area of 300 users who do silly things like enter their email
 addresses on cards at the store for mailers, or enter their email
 address when they want to win free stuff online) of about 30-50 spam
 messages a day that actually get through. I don't think there's an easy
 way to see how many are blocked at the SMTP level, but by doing some
 math (and using cat/grep/wc) I can say that roughly 19,200 messages a
 day are block on the SMTP level by the blacklists. And here's my spam
 stats:
 
 Email:   232678  Autolearn: 63457  AvgScore:  11.39  AvgScanTime:  1.77 sec
 Spam:110621  Autolearn: 39859  AvgScore:  24.74  AvgScanTime:  1.75 sec
 Ham: 122057  Autolearn: 23598  AvgScore:  -0.71  AvgScanTime:  1.79 sec
 
 So you can see that about half the emails that get past the blacklist
 are marked as spam in some way/shape/form. I do get false positives, but
 have weeded most of those out by utilizing a whitelist system.
 
 And to your last question, why spamhaus was used in the last release if
 it's blocking dynamic IP addresses QMT has no control over what the
 various other people do. Spamhaus just changed their policy the last
 week or so ago.  The QMT project is just an easy way for you to get
 QMail installed, and you get what a couple of us think are the best
 settings as default. If you read any of the messages or the wiki, you'll
 see that the first thing we tell everyone is to configure it for your
 needs. Spamhaus was great up until a week or so ago. So it was used.
 It's also no great secret that some disagreements are aired on the
 development list. Those who have input/develop/help with the project do
 not always agree with what options/changes are made as well. Once again,
 we all have our own opinions, and you (by downloading the packages) are
 getting in what our opinion is a usable mail system. It works for the
 majority of the people. Does it work for me? No - I've customized mine
 just about every way you can think of. That does work for me.
 If emails are ABSOLUTELY critical (and they usually are these days), I'd
 suggest not blocking any on the SMTP level and concentrating your
 efforts on scoring the messages. If you're using the spambox option, set
 the delete flag to a very high number. That way if a message does get
 scored as spam, it gets put in the Spam folder instead of just deleted
 and the user can still get the email (and you can tweak the system to
 keep if from happening again).
 Hopefully that answered your questions.

Nice post, Jake.

The only thing I can think to add is regarding anti-rbl lists. There are a
number of these (check an IP address at http://www.robtext.com and you'll
see whitelists at the top of the report) available. I've not looked into any
of them (yet). To specify a white (anti-rbl) list in the toaster, simply add
a -a white.list.name before the -r entries in the
/var/qmail/control/blacklists (probably should be called rblists) file.

Is anyone here using any rbl whitelists?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 
 - Original Message - From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error
 
 
 If your toaster is running live, I can get a fix committed to svn
 right away
 (today, probably in a couple hours).

 My Toaster is running live ...
 
 Let me know your situation.

 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'


Thanks for using the Trac system, David. It appears that after submitting
(or changing) a ticket, the screen doesn't come back (stays waiting),
although the update does take.  I'm guessing that's why there are 5 tickets
you created for this. ;) No problem. I'll have to Trac that problem down.
(pun intended)

As to the problem at hand, I've fixed qtp-newmodel and committed the change
to SVN (revision #73). I don't this necessitates cutting a new release, so
you'll need to get the fix manually. The easiest way to get it will be to:
# cd /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin
# mv qtp-newmodel qtp-newmodel.bkp
# wget http://svn.shubes.net/qtp/trunk/bin/qtp-newmodel
# chmod 755 qtp-newmodel

That should fix you up.

Thanks again for trying out Trac.
Let me know how you make out.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi ES,


Without looking at the code in much detail, I can tell that the problem lies
with version numbering. This routine assumes (erroneously) that packages
have a version number that conforms to n.n.n-n.n.n format. While this is
true for toaster packages, it's not true for other packages such as zlib
which have both non-toaster and toaster versions. Why the toaster version of
zlib isn't named zlib-toaster, I've no idea. I also don't know what the
difference is between the toaster and non-toaster versions. I think it's
safe to say that you probably want the toaster version though (that's what
I'm running).


The name is kept the same (sans toaster) because it is a dependency
for so many packages. The reason we include it is because there are
clamd issues with older versions of zlib. It is not installed unless
necessary, for example on FC6 which ships with the same version of
zlib, we don't install it when using the fc6 install script.


If your toaster is not currently deployed (running live), the fix is easy.
Simply
# rpm -e --nodeps zlib
to remove the existing package. The toaster's zlib should be automatically
selected and installed, and away you go.


I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken system.

Thanks,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hi ES,
 
 Without looking at the code in much detail, I can tell that the
 problem lies
 with version numbering. This routine assumes (erroneously) that packages
 have a version number that conforms to n.n.n-n.n.n format. While this is
 true for toaster packages, it's not true for other packages such as zlib
 which have both non-toaster and toaster versions. Why the toaster
 version of
 zlib isn't named zlib-toaster, I've no idea. I also don't know what the
 difference is between the toaster and non-toaster versions. I think it's
 safe to say that you probably want the toaster version though (that's
 what
 I'm running).
 
 The name is kept the same (sans toaster) because it is a dependency
 for so many packages. The reason we include it is because there are
 clamd issues with older versions of zlib. It is not installed unless
 necessary, for example on FC6 which ships with the same version of
 zlib, we don't install it when using the fc6 install script.

I figured there was a good reason. :)

Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel (i.e. if
zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?

 If your toaster is not currently deployed (running live), the fix is
 easy.
 Simply
 # rpm -e --nodeps zlib
 to remove the existing package. The toaster's zlib should be
 automatically
 selected and installed, and away you go.
 
 I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken
 system.

That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?

 Thanks,
 Erik
 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey ES,


Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel (i.e. if
zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?


Execute this: rpm -q --queryformat %{name}-%{version}\n zlib
Should come back with this: zlib-1.2.3


Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?


I never had to remove the current zlib package to upgrade. As far as
yum, it may not work as zlib is required for rpm decompression. I'd be
very careful when removing zlib.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hey ES,
 
 Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel
 (i.e. if
 zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
 version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?
 
 Execute this: rpm -q --queryformat %{name}-%{version}\n zlib
 Should come back with this: zlib-1.2.3

So if it's 1.2.3 or better, we don't need the toaster version, right?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Correct.

On 2/5/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hey ES,

 Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel
 (i.e. if
 zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
 version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?

 Execute this: rpm -q --queryformat %{name}-%{version}\n zlib
 Should come back with this: zlib-1.2.3

So if it's 1.2.3 or better, we don't need the toaster version, right?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Warren (mailing lists)

Eric Shubes wrote:


Thanks for using the Trac system, David. It appears that after submitting
(or changing) a ticket, the screen doesn't come back (stays waiting),
although the update does take.  I'm guessing that's why there are 5 tickets
you created for this. ;) No problem. I'll have to Trac that problem down.
(pun intended)



Eric,

I had the same problem in Bugzilla recently.  You might want to check 
your mail settings.  In my case it was inserting the bug into the 
database then hanging on the SMTP send.


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[qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection

2007-02-05 Thread Steve Ingraham
Below is an error message one of my users received today.  Can anyone
explain to me what this means concerning the . . .wasn't able to
establish an SMTP connection?  Is this telling me there is an issue
with our qmail toaster or that the receiving server has an SMTP problem?

Thanks,

Steve

___

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:59 PM

To: Molly Reid

Subject: failure notice

 

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dellapp02.occa.state.ok.us. I'm
afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1) I'm not
going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

 


Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Warren (mailing lists) wrote:
 Eric Shubes wrote:
 
 Thanks for using the Trac system, David. It appears that after submitting
 (or changing) a ticket, the screen doesn't come back (stays waiting),
 although the update does take.  I'm guessing that's why there are 5
 tickets
 you created for this. ;) No problem. I'll have to Trac that problem down.
 (pun intended)

 
 Eric,
 
 I had the same problem in Bugzilla recently.  You might want to check
 your mail settings.  In my case it was inserting the bug into the
 database then hanging on the SMTP send.
 
 W
 

Thanks for the pointer, Warren. I'll look there first. Good chance that's it.

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[qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
MessageHi all,

Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0 i586 but I 
can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem happends:

{standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils  2.16.1 
(I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know how to solve this

deps.sh script works greate.
courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

Someone had a similar problem ?

regards
Gabriel


Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
MessageThis is last pages of compilation, thanks for any help

checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-pgf77... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-fort77... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-fl32... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-af77... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-f90... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-xlf90... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-pgf90... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-epcf90... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-f95... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-fort... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-xlf95... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-ifc... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-efc... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-pgf95... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-lf95... no
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-gfortran... no
checking for g77... no
checking for f77... no
checking for xlf... no
checking for frt... no
checking for pgf77... no
checking for fort77... no
checking for fl32... no
checking for af77... no
checking for f90... no
checking for xlf90... no
checking for pgf90... no
checking for epcf90... no
checking for f95... no
checking for fort... no
checking for xlf95... no
checking for ifc... no
checking for efc... no
checking for pgf95... no
checking for lf95... no
checking for gfortran... no
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no
checking whether  accepts -g... no
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -
DHAVE_VLOGAUTH object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-ar... no
checking for ar... ar
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-ranlib... no
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-strip... no
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH supports -fno-rtti -fno-
exceptions... no
checking for gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-
pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH option to produce 
PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH PIC flag -fPIC works... 
yes
checking if gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH static flag -static 
works... no
checking if gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH supports -c -o file.o... 
yes
checking whether the gcc -O2 -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fomit-
frame-pointer -march=i586 -mtune=pentiumpro -DHAVE_VLOGAUTH linker 
(/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking for shl_load... no
checking for shl_load in -ldld... no
checking for dlopen... no
checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes
checking whether a program can dlopen itself... yes
checking whether a statically linked program can dlopen itself... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag CXX to libtool
checking for ld used by i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) 
supports shared libraries... yes
checking for i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ option to produce PIC... -
fPIC
checking if i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ static flag -static works... 
no
checking if i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the i586-mandriva-linux-gnu-g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) 
supports shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
appending configuration tag F77 to libtool
checking for perl5... /usr/bin/perl5
checking for courierauthconfig... /usr/bin/courierauthconfig
checking for sendmail... /usr/sbin/sendmail
checking for openssl... /usr/bin/openssl
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
checking locale.h usability... yes
checking locale.h presence... yes
checking for locale.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking for sys/stat.h... (cached) yes
checking sys/wait.h usability... yes
checking sys/wait.h presence... yes
checking for sys/wait.h... yes
checking time.h usability... yes
checking time.h presence... yes
checking for time.h... yes
checking sys/time.h usability... yes
checking 

Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Steve Ingraham wrote:
 Below is an error message one of my users received today.  Can anyone
 explain to me what this means concerning the . . .wasn't able to
 establish an SMTP connection?  Is this telling me there is an issue
 with our qmail toaster or that the receiving server has an SMTP problem?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:59 PM
 
 To: Molly Reid
 
 Subject: failure notice
 
  
 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dellapp02.occa.state.ok.us. I'm
 afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1) I'm not
 going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
 
  
The message is indicating that your toaster wasn't able to connect to the
destination server.

The destination server appears to be up now:
$ host -t MX oscn.net
oscn.net mail is handled by 10 mail.oscn.net.
$ telnet mail.oscn.net 25
Trying 204.61.6.14...
Connected to mail.oscn.net (204.61.6.14).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 okcmailex.oscn.net Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.1830
ready at  Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:04:02 -0600
quit
221 2.0.0 okcmailex.oscn.net Service closing transmission channel
Connection closed by foreign host.
$

The destination might have been down at the time. Try above commands from
your toaster. If it connects ok, have your user try resending the message.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

That is giving you an error saying that delapp02.occa.state.ok.us, the
mail server in charge of mail for oscn.net, didn't accept your mail.
Basically the issue is at their end.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Steve Ingraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Below is an error message one of my users received today.  Can anyone
explain to me what this means concerning the . . .wasn't able to establish
an SMTP connection?  Is this telling me there is an issue with our qmail
toaster or that the receiving server has an SMTP problem?

Thanks,

Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:59 PM

To: Molly Reid

Subject: failure notice



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dellapp02.occa.state.ok.us. I'm afraid
I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a
permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1) I'm not going
to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.



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RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection

2007-02-05 Thread Steve Ingraham
Thanks for the info to you and everyone else who replied.  After sending
my inquiry to the mail list I talked with the OSCN support personnel who
informed me their server was having problems and that they were working
on it.  Your explanations were helpful though in my understanding of how
to troubleshoot these types of error messages.


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:10 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection
 
 
 Steve Ingraham wrote:
  Below is an error message one of my users received today.  
 Can anyone 
  explain to me what this means concerning the . . .wasn't able to 
  establish an SMTP connection?  Is this telling me there is 
 an issue 
  with our qmail toaster or that the receiving server has an SMTP 
  problem?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Steve
  
  ___
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:59 PM
  
  To: Molly Reid
  
  Subject: failure notice
  
   
  
  Hi. This is the qmail-send program at 
 dellapp02.occa.state.ok.us. I'm 
  afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
  addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry 
 it didn't 
  work out.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. 
 (#4.4.1) I'm not 
  going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
  
   
 The message is indicating that your toaster wasn't able to 
 connect to the destination server.
 
 The destination server appears to be up now:
 $ host -t MX oscn.net
 oscn.net mail is handled by 10 mail.oscn.net.
 $ telnet mail.oscn.net 25
 Trying 204.61.6.14...
 Connected to mail.oscn.net (204.61.6.14).
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 okcmailex.oscn.net Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 
 6.0.3790.1830 ready at  Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:04:02 -0600 quit 
 221 2.0.0 okcmailex.oscn.net Service closing transmission 
 channel Connection closed by foreign host. $
 
 The destination might have been down at the time. Try above 
 commands from your toaster. If it connects ok, have your user 
 try resending the message.
 
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[Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Ray Lance
OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run 
through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:


   checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
   checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
   checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
   configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
   See `config.log' for more details.
   error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)


   RPM build errors:
   Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)

*What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity 
checking ok?*


Ray Lance wrote:

Hi Eric,

OK, do I just send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Yes.


Where can I see the list archives?


http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/


It looks like you don't have the C++ compiler installed.
To install it:
# yum -y cpp

P.S. Ray, you really need to post to the qmailtoaster list. It doesn't help
anyone else for me to reply to you personally. OTOH, if you want to enlist
my consulting services (for a fee), that's a different scenario. ;)

  


I might well consider hiring you for this problem.   How much would it be?


Depends on the job. I'm very reasonable though.


I did of course check that cpp was installed (3.4.6), but based on the
sanity check, I removed it (and gcc, et al) and reinstalled first just
cpp, then gcc-c++ also.  Still fails in libsrs2, whose config.log ends like

## --- ##
## confdefs.h. ##
## --- ##

#define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1
#define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1
#define HAVE_MEMORY_H 1
#define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
#define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1
#define HAVE_STRINGS_H 1
#define HAVE_STRING_H 1
#define HAVE_SYS_STAT_H 1
#define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1
#define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1
#define PACKAGE libsrs2
#define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT 
#define PACKAGE_NAME 
#define PACKAGE_STRING 
#define PACKAGE_TARNAME 
#define PACKAGE_VERSION 
#define STDC_HEADERS 1
#define VERSION 1.0.18
#endif
#ifdef __cplusplus
void exit (int);

configure: exit 1

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That doesn't tell me much.

I'd try rerunning the last yum command in the *-deps.sh script for your
distro to be sure you have everything you need.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Ray Lance wrote:
 OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run
 through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:
 
 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
 checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
 configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
 See `config.log' for more details.
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)
 
 
 RPM build errors:
 Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)
 
 *What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity
 checking ok?*
 

distro/version?
# qtp-whatami
(if you have qtp installed)
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
MessageIm compiling with mdk103, but I saw that on
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg01055.html
someone uses mdk102, which one is the rigth one ?
regards
Gabriel

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gaby Kule 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:01 PM
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


  Hi all,

  Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0 i586 but 
I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem happends:

  {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

  Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils  2.16.1 
(I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know how to solve this

  deps.sh script works greate.
  courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

  Someone had a similar problem ?

  regards
  Gabriel


Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Ray Lance



Eric Shubes wrote:

Ray Lance wrote:
  

OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run
through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:

checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
See `config.log' for more details.
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)

*What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity
checking ok?*




distro/version?
  

# uname -a
Linux *hostname* 2.6.9-42.37.EL.c4test #1 Thu Jan 4 07:55:37 EST 2007 
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux



# qtp-whatami
(if you have qtp installed)
  

qtp-whatami v0.2.1
DISTRO=CentOS
OSVER=4.4
ARCH=i686
BUILD_DIST=cnt40
BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested.

--




Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Gaby,
You should be using one of:
# Mandrake 10.0 Linux   mdk100
# Mandrake 10.1 Linux   mdk101
# Mandriva 2005 Linux   mdk102
# Mandriva 2006 Linux   mdk2006
# Mandriva 2006 x86_64  mdk200664
# Mandriva 2007 Linux   mdv2007
# Mandriva 2007 x86_64  mdv200764

If you install qmailtoaster-plus (see wiki) you can run
# qtp-whatami
and it will tell you what settings to use.

Gaby Kule wrote:
 Im compiling with mdk103, but I saw that on
 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg01055.html
 someone uses mdk102, which one is the rigth one ?
 regards
 Gabriel
  
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* Gaby Kule mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2007 5:01 PM
 *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Installation problems
 
 Hi all,
  
 Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0
 i586 but I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem
 happends:
  
 {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'
  
 Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils
  2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know
 how to solve this
  
 deps.sh script works greate.
 courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6
  
 Someone had a similar problem ?
  
 regards
 Gabriel
  


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Ray Lance wrote:
 Eric Shubes wrote:
 Ray Lance wrote:
   
 OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run
 through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:

 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
 checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
 configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
 See `config.log' for more details.
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)


 RPM build errors:
 Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)

 *What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity
 checking ok?*

 

 distro/version?
   
 # uname -a
 Linux *hostname* 2.6.9-42.37.EL.c4test #1 Thu Jan 4 07:55:37 EST 2007
 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 
 # qtp-whatami
 (if you have qtp installed)
   
 qtp-whatami v0.2.1
 DISTRO=CentOS
 OSVER=4.4
 ARCH=i686
 BUILD_DIST=cnt40
 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
 This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested.
 
 -- 

You shouldn't need the testing repo.
You should have run the cnt40-deps.sh script, and the cnt40-* series of
helper scripts.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
Really Eric ?

mdk2006 does not exists on http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ , it says mdk103
(for downloading scripts for Mandriva 2006) as it says on
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mandriva_2006.0_QmailToaster_Install

Is better to download qmailtoaster-plus ? does it install the last
qmailtoaster version ? I dont know what to do now ...

Im triing to install qtp but it has new dependencies ... perl(diagnostics)
i.e.

thanks
Gabriel

- Original Message -
From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems


Gaby,
You should be using one of:
# Mandrake 10.0 Linux   mdk100
# Mandrake 10.1 Linux   mdk101
# Mandriva 2005 Linux   mdk102
# Mandriva 2006 Linux   mdk2006
# Mandriva 2006 x86_64  mdk200664
# Mandriva 2007 Linux   mdv2007
# Mandriva 2007 x86_64  mdv200764

If you install qmailtoaster-plus (see wiki) you can run
# qtp-whatami
and it will tell you what settings to use.

Gaby Kule wrote:
 Im compiling with mdk103, but I saw that on

http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg01055.html
 someone uses mdk102, which one is the rigth one ?
 regards
 Gabriel


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 *From:* Gaby Kule mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2007 5:01 PM
 *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

 Hi all,

 Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0
 i586 but I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem
 happends:

 {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

 Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils
  2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know
 how to solve this

 deps.sh script works greate.
 courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

 Someone had a similar problem ?

 regards
 Gabriel



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Gaby Kule wrote:
 Really Eric ?

I thought so, but now I'm not sure. I see that mdk103-install-script.sh was
changed just a few weeks ago, and it has DISTRO=mdk103, so I'm guessing now
that this is what you want. Looks like I need to change the qtp-whatami script.

 mdk2006 does not exists on http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ , it says mdk103
 (for downloading scripts for Mandriva 2006) as it says on
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mandriva_2006.0_QmailToaster_Install

Looks like DISTRO=mkd103 is the right setting (from looking at the .spec files).

 Is better to download qmailtoaster-plus ?

Not necessarily, but there are some neat things there you'll probably want.

 does it install the last qmailtoaster version ?

Yes, but it's looking like qtp-whatami will need a tweak in order to do
Mandy'06.

 I dont know what to do now ...

Use CentOS. (just kidding, but if it's an option, go with it)

EE, what's up with Mandriva? Did we go back to the mdk10* numbers instead of
the mdv20* numbers? Is Mandriva 2007 not available?

 Im triing to install qtp but it has new dependencies ... perl(diagnostics)
 i.e.
 
 thanks
 Gabriel
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems
 
 
 Gaby,
 You should be using one of:
 # Mandrake 10.0 Linux   mdk100
 # Mandrake 10.1 Linux   mdk101
 # Mandriva 2005 Linux   mdk102
 # Mandriva 2006 Linux   mdk2006
 # Mandriva 2006 x86_64  mdk200664
 # Mandriva 2007 Linux   mdv2007
 # Mandriva 2007 x86_64  mdv200764
 
 If you install qmailtoaster-plus (see wiki) you can run
 # qtp-whatami
 and it will tell you what settings to use.
 
 Gaby Kule wrote:
 Im compiling with mdk103, but I saw that on

 http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg01055.html
 someone uses mdk102, which one is the rigth one ?
 regards
 Gabriel


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Gaby Kule mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2007 5:01 PM
 *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

 Hi all,

 Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0
 i586 but I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem
 happends:

 {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

 Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils
  2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know
 how to solve this

 deps.sh script works greate.
 courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

 Someone had a similar problem ?

 regards
 Gabriel

 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
Im just using Mandriva cause Im more familiar with Mandrake (just this).
Im using 2006 cause Mandriva 2007 installs Mysql5 by default and I dont want
this.
I installed qtp and saw that I have i686 and I did some configurations for
i585, maybe thats my compilation problem. Ill try to install it on Mandriva,
and if I cant Ill install CentOS.

CentOS 4.x is the recomended OS for qmailtoaster ? is the one that
toaster-team-tests more ?

thanks
Gabriel

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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems


Gaby Kule wrote:
 Really Eric ?

I thought so, but now I'm not sure. I see that mdk103-install-script.sh was
changed just a few weeks ago, and it has DISTRO=mdk103, so I'm guessing now
that this is what you want. Looks like I need to change the qtp-whatami
script.

 mdk2006 does not exists on http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ , it says mdk103
 (for downloading scripts for Mandriva 2006) as it says on

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mandriva_2006.0_QmailToaster_Install

Looks like DISTRO=mkd103 is the right setting (from looking at the .spec
files).

 Is better to download qmailtoaster-plus ?

Not necessarily, but there are some neat things there you'll probably want.

 does it install the last qmailtoaster version ?

Yes, but it's looking like qtp-whatami will need a tweak in order to do
Mandy'06.

 I dont know what to do now ...

Use CentOS. (just kidding, but if it's an option, go with it)

EE, what's up with Mandriva? Did we go back to the mdk10* numbers instead of
the mdv20* numbers? Is Mandriva 2007 not available?

 Im triing to install qtp but it has new dependencies ... perl(diagnostics)
 i.e.

 thanks
 Gabriel

 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems


 Gaby,
 You should be using one of:
 # Mandrake 10.0 Linux   mdk100
 # Mandrake 10.1 Linux   mdk101
 # Mandriva 2005 Linux   mdk102
 # Mandriva 2006 Linux   mdk2006
 # Mandriva 2006 x86_64  mdk200664
 # Mandriva 2007 Linux   mdv2007
 # Mandriva 2007 x86_64  mdv200764

 If you install qmailtoaster-plus (see wiki) you can run
 # qtp-whatami
 and it will tell you what settings to use.

 Gaby Kule wrote:
 Im compiling with mdk103, but I saw that on


http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg01055.html
 someone uses mdk102, which one is the rigth one ?
 regards
 Gabriel


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Gaby Kule mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 05, 2007 5:01 PM
 *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

 Hi all,

 Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0
 i586 but I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem
 happends:

 {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

 Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils
  2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know
 how to solve this

 deps.sh script works greate.
 courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

 Someone had a similar problem ?

 regards
 Gabriel



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi ES,


EE, what's up with Mandriva? Did we go back to the mdk10* numbers instead of
the mdv20* numbers? Is Mandriva 2007 not available?


Couldn't tell you. I've only done the port for FC6 and maintenance
work. Perhaps Nick might be able to shed some light on this. Currently
I test on CentOS 3, 4 and FC6 on 32-bit. I don't have the time to test
on much else, nor the infrastructure. As far as I know, the web site
is correct with mdk103.

Thanks,
Erk

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Gaby Kule wrote:
 Im just using Mandriva cause Im more familiar with Mandrake (just this).
 Im using 2006 cause Mandriva 2007 installs Mysql5 by default and I dont want
 this.

Good.

 I installed qtp and saw that I have i686 and I did some configurations for
 i585, maybe thats my compilation problem.

I doubt that's the problem.

 Ill try to install it on Mandriva,
 and if I cant Ill install CentOS.

Good.

 CentOS 4.x is the recomended OS for qmailtoaster ?

Yes.

 is the one that toaster-team-tests more ?

Tested more, most people use.

 thanks
 Gabriel
 

I've committed a modified qtp-whatami to svn. To get the changed version (I
haven't cut a new release):
# cd /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin
# wget http://svn.shubes.net/qtp/trunk/bin/qtp-whatami
# chmod 755 qtp-whatami

That should show you mdk103 now, but it won't fix your problem with
courier-imap-toaster. EE might be able to help with that.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hi ES,
 
 EE, what's up with Mandriva? Did we go back to the mdk10* numbers
 instead of
 the mdv20* numbers? Is Mandriva 2007 not available?
 
 Couldn't tell you. I've only done the port for FC6 and maintenance
 work. Perhaps Nick might be able to shed some light on this. Currently
 I test on CentOS 3, 4 and FC6 on 32-bit. I don't have the time to test
 on much else, nor the infrastructure. As far as I know, the web site
 is correct with mdk103.
 
 Thanks,
 Erk
 

That's what the .spec files seem to show. I don't know where I came up with
the mdv200* numbers.

Anywise, Gaby's having a problem with courier-imap on Mandriva'06. I can't
be of any further help. I hope he just goes with CentOS (although I
typically hate it when someone suggests switching distros to fix a problem!).


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
I forgot one step:

Eric Shubes wrote:
 
 I've committed a modified qtp-whatami to svn. To get the changed version (I
 haven't cut a new release):
 # cd /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin

  # rm qtp-whatami

 # wget http://svn.shubes.net/qtp/trunk/bin/qtp-whatami
 # chmod 755 qtp-whatami
 
 That should show you mdk103 now, but it won't fix your problem with
 courier-imap-toaster. EE might be able to help with that.
 


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Martin
I installed the toaster on 2006, and had only a few problems, there were
some deps needed that were not in the script.  I do seem to recall it was
courier-imap was one of the ones that did not want to load.  There were a
few others as well.  Off the top of my head I am unsure which ones they were
(it has been a couple of months).  Hope that helps some.

  _  

From: Gaby Kule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:01 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


Hi all,
 
Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0 i586 but
I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem happends:
 
{standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'
 
Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils 
2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know how to
solve this
 
deps.sh script works greate.
courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6
 
Someone had a similar problem ?
 
regards
Gabriel
 


[qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Trung Pham
Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
because of dynamic IP blacklist.

I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
document showing how to set it up in outlook.

Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
outlook.

Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Gaby Kule
MessageThanks Jack, wich hardware do you use ?

I have problems compiling courier-imap-toaster on mandriva 2006/i585, but with 
i686 hardware (so it says qtp)
I did not find specific i686 rpms for solving dependencies on Mandriva site or 
RPM Search site, so I can not solve ths problem with my knowledge. I think 
that my i585 rpms should work anywhere, but I searched for the compiling 
message on the web and there is and old bug on gcc that comes from gcc 4.1.1 
and its supouse that this was solved on bindutils new releases, but it still 
happends on my installation.
I tried with mdk102 parameters and it had the same results.

Ill try with CentOs 4.x, on i686 hardware. Did you tested on this hardware Eric 
?
If its needed any test with Mandriva, Ill not format my Mandriva installation 
on this week. Just ask me.

regards. 
Gabriel 

Buenos Aires
Argentina

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  From: Jack Martin 
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


  I installed the toaster on 2006, and had only a few problems, there were some 
deps needed that were not in the script.  I do seem to recall it was 
courier-imap was one of the ones that did not want to load.  There were a few 
others as well.  Off the top of my head I am unsure which ones they were (it 
has been a couple of months).  Hope that helps some.


--
  From: Gaby Kule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:01 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


  Hi all,

  Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0 i586 but 
I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem happends:

  {standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'

  Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils  2.16.1 
(I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know how to solve this

  deps.sh script works greate.
  courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6

  Someone had a similar problem ?

  regards
  Gabriel


Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Trung Pham
I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
up.

 Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
 because of dynamic IP blacklist.

 I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
 recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
 document showing how to set it up in outlook.

 Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
 outlook.

 Thanks.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Martin
I have it installed on an old Proliant 7000 server.  I of course used the
i586 RPM's.  You should be using mdk103, mdk102 is for 2005.

  _  

From: Gaby Kule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:07 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


Thanks Jack, wich hardware do you use ?
 
I have problems compiling courier-imap-toaster on mandriva 2006/i585, but
with i686 hardware (so it says qtp)
I did not find specific i686 rpms for solving dependencies on Mandriva site
or RPM Search site, so I can not solve ths problem with my knowledge. I
think that my i585 rpms should work anywhere, but I searched for the
compiling message on the web and there is and old bug on gcc that comes from
gcc 4.1.1 and its supouse that this was solved on bindutils new releases,
but it still happends on my installation.
I tried with mdk102 parameters and it had the same results.
 
Ill try with CentOs 4.x, on i686 hardware. Did you tested on this hardware
Eric ?
If its needed any test with Mandriva, Ill not format my Mandriva
installation on this week. Just ask me.
 
regards. 
Gabriel 
 
Buenos Aires
Argentina
 

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From: Jack Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 

I installed the toaster on 2006, and had only a few problems, there were
some deps needed that were not in the script.  I do seem to recall it was
courier-imap was one of the ones that did not want to load.  There were a
few others as well.  Off the top of my head I am unsure which ones they were
(it has been a couple of months).  Hope that helps some.

  _  

From: Gaby Kule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:01 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems 


Hi all,
 
Im triyng to install qmailtoaster (last version) on Mandriva 2006.0 i586 but
I can not compile courier-imap-toaster cause this problem happends:
 
{standard input}:xx : Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.weakref'
 
Looking for help on the web, y could read that I must have bindutils 
2.16.1 (I have 2.16.91) ... and I can not continue ... dont know how to
solve this
 
deps.sh script works greate.
courier-imap-toaster is 4.1.2-1.3.6
 
Someone had a similar problem ?
 
regards
Gabriel
 



[qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Vince Callaway
Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.

First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
They were clueless.

Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
authorization on it and I'm back up and running.

The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.

After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
port 80.

After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.

I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
legal and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
right to protect their network.  Clueless.

I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
the service.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Trung,

Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

It's all this upgrade will do.

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
up.

 Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
 because of dynamic IP blacklist.

 I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
 recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
 document showing how to set it up in outlook.

 Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
 outlook.

 Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse

Hi,

It is no must to update the package.
Like I mailed a very small and simple edit of the submissiom run script will 
do.


/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run
Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line
REQUIRE_AUTH=1
to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1


JP

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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?



I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
up.


Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
because of dynamic IP blacklist.

I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
document showing how to set it up in outlook.

Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port 
via

outlook.

Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your system.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Trung,

Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

It's all this upgrade will do.

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

 What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
 want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
 up.

  Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
  because of dynamic IP blacklist.
 
  I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
  recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
  document showing how to set it up in outlook.
 
  Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
  outlook.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Trung Pham
Erik,

Are you trying to be funny? Cuz you're confusing me. =P

 Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your system.

 Erik

 On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Trung,

 Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
 say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

 It's all this upgrade will do.

 On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.
 
  What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
  want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the
 toaster
  up.
 
   Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via
 outlook
   because of dynamic IP blacklist.
  
   I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And
 the
   recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find
 any
   document showing how to set it up in outlook.
  
   Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission
 port via
   outlook.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

No, I made a mistake in my instructions. Requiring auth on the smtp
port is bad and will break everything. Jean-Paul sent the correct
instructions. I answered off the top of my head, without double
checking. My apologies.

Thanks,
Erik

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik,

Are you trying to be funny? Cuz you're confusing me. =P

 Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your system.

 Erik

 On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Trung,

 Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
 say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

 It's all this upgrade will do.

 On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.
 
  What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
  want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the
 toaster
  up.
 
   Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via
 outlook
   because of dynamic IP blacklist.
  
   I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And
 the
   recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find
 any
   document showing how to set it up in outlook.
  
   Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission
 port via
   outlook.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Trung Pham
My appologies too.

I see the difference in the two instruction now.

/var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run vs
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run

What is the outcome of changing that run script? Because submission is
working just fine for me right now.

 No, I made a mistake in my instructions. Requiring auth on the smtp
 port is bad and will break everything. Jean-Paul sent the correct
 instructions. I answered off the top of my head, without double
 checking. My apologies.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erik,

 Are you trying to be funny? Cuz you're confusing me. =P

  Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your
 system.
 
  Erik
 
  On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey Trung,
 
  Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
  say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.
 
  It's all this upgrade will do.
 
  On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.
  
   What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont
 really
   want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the
  toaster
   up.
  
Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via
  outlook
because of dynamic IP blacklist.
   
I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And
  the
recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to
 find
  any
document showing how to set it up in outlook.
   
Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission
  port via
outlook.
   
Thanks.
   
   
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
The outcome is that it actually makes authentication required instead of 
optional.


JP
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My appologies too.

I see the difference in the two instruction now.

/var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run vs
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run

What is the outcome of changing that run script? Because submission is
working just fine for me right now.


No, I made a mistake in my instructions. Requiring auth on the smtp
port is bad and will break everything. Jean-Paul sent the correct
instructions. I answered off the top of my head, without double
checking. My apologies.

Thanks,
Erik

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik,

Are you trying to be funny? Cuz you're confusing me. =P

 Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your
system.

 Erik

 On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Trung,

 Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
 say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

 It's all this upgrade will do.

 On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.
 
  What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont
really
  want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the
 toaster
  up.
 
   Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via
 outlook
   because of dynamic IP blacklist.
  
   I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And
 the
   recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to
find
 any
   document showing how to set it up in outlook.
  
   Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission
 port via
   outlook.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
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[qmailtoaster] toaster as internal relay.

2007-02-05 Thread slamp slamp

Hi list,

I have different linux servers that are internal only but would like to use
toaster as the relay. Basically I do not want any mail residing on the local
linux servers.

So far I've allowed the IP of my linux servers in tcp.smtp (same as 127
line) and able to relay to the toaster ONLY if I rewrite the from address. I
do not want to rewrite because I would like to be able to tell where the
mail is coming from (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Below is the error message I get.


2007-02-05 19:39:38.952825500 tcpserver: status: 0/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788782500 tcpserver: status: 1/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788788500 tcpserver: pid 31891 from 192.168.1.3
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788791500 tcpserver: ok 31891
external.domain.com:192.168.1.4:25
:192.168.1.3::56139
2007-02-05 19:40:45.884438500 CHKUSER rejected sender: from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote internal.lan.com:unknown:192.168.1.3 rcpt
 : invalid sender MX domain
2007-02-05 19:40:45.908143500 tcpserver: end 31891 status 0

FYI: I do not have an internal DNS where I could setup an MX record for
internal.lan.com.


Re: [qmailtoaster] toaster as internal relay.

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Put ',SENDER_NOCHECK=1' at the end of the relayclient line for the
internal ip addresses.

On 2/5/07, slamp slamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi list,

I have different linux servers that are internal only but would like to use
toaster as the relay. Basically I do not want any mail residing on the local
linux servers.

So far I've allowed the IP of my linux servers in tcp.smtp (same as 127
line) and able to relay to the toaster ONLY if I rewrite the from address. I
do not want to rewrite because I would like to be able to tell where the
mail is coming from (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Below is the error message I get.


2007-02-05 19:39:38.952825500 tcpserver: status: 0/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788782500 tcpserver: status: 1/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788788500 tcpserver: pid 31891 from 192.168.1.3
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788791500 tcpserver: ok 31891
external.domain.com:192.168.1.4:25 :192.168.1.3::56139
2007-02-05 19:40:45.884438500 CHKUSER rejected sender: from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote
internal.lan.com:unknown:192.168.1.3 rcpt  : invalid
sender MX domain
2007-02-05 19:40:45.908143500 tcpserver: end 31891 status 0

FYI: I do not have an internal DNS where I could setup an MX record for
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Gaby Kule wrote:
 Thanks Jack, wich hardware do you use ?
  
 I have problems compiling courier-imap-toaster on mandriva 2006/i585,
 but with i686 hardware (so it says qtp)
 I did not find specific i686 rpms for solving dependencies on Mandriva
 site or RPM Search site, so I can not solve ths problem with my
 knowledge. I think that my i585 rpms should work anywhere, but I
 searched for the compiling message on the web and there is and old bug
 on gcc that comes from gcc 4.1.1 and its supouse that this was solved on
 bindutils new releases, but it still happends on my installation.
 I tried with mdk102 parameters and it had the same results.
  
 Ill try with CentOs 4.x, on i686 hardware. Did you tested on this
 hardware Eric ?

I don't do release testing. There are some Mandriva installations out there
though.

The hardware setting isn't very significant. Simply optimization. i586 build
parameter should work fine on a i686 processor. You can build for i386 and
it'll run ok on anything higher. i586 is Pentium and i686 is PentiumII.

Your problem is related to software dependencies/compatibilities. Your
development environment (compiler and related packages) isn't what it needs
to be. I don't know what packages you need for Mandriva. You *should* have
everything in mdk103-deps.sh installed. Also, be sure that your yum
repositories are proper for mandrake 2006.0.

 If its needed any test with Mandriva, Ill not format my Mandriva
 installation on this week. Just ask me.

Thanks, Gabriel.

 regards.
 Gabriel
  
 Buenos Aires
 Argentina
  

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Vince Callaway wrote:
 Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.
 
 First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
 outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
 address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
 having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
 it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
 they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
 They were clueless.
 
 Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
 authorization on it and I'm back up and running.

I'd say you're lucky on this count. My ISP (Qwest) won't even let me send
mail from my domain (with authentication) through their mail server. Sending
addresses have to belong to the(ir) account.

I send out some stuff directly, but more and more as receiving MTAs block
dynamic addresses, I use dyndns's mailhop service, which has worked well for me.

 The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.
 
 After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
 inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
 the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
 month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
 port 80.

QWest can't even offer me a static address, as they have VDSL in my area.
They're not blocking ports though (yet, knock wood).

 After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
 the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
 He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.
 
 I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
 blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
 legal and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
 right to protect their network.  Clueless.
 
 I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
 the service.
 

Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread David J.
I was trying to submitted the ticket, but it feel so hard on the connection 
( Idon't know maybe my connection are not good enough to reach out the 
server. Been tryang to refresh several time to upload the ticket.


Ok than, I'll try it first, and get back to you with the result .

Highly appreciate your concern over my problem.

Regards,

David J.

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Thanks for using the Trac system, David. It appears that after submitting
(or changing) a ticket, the screen doesn't come back (stays waiting),
although the update does take.  I'm guessing that's why there are 5 
tickets

you created for this. ;) No problem. I'll have to Trac that problem down.
(pun intended)

As to the problem at hand, I've fixed qtp-newmodel and committed the 
change

to SVN (revision #73). I don't this necessitates cutting a new release, so
you'll need to get the fix manually. The easiest way to get it will be to:
# cd /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin
# mv qtp-newmodel qtp-newmodel.bkp
# wget http://svn.shubes.net/qtp/trunk/bin/qtp-newmodel
# chmod 755 qtp-newmodel

That should fix you up.

Thanks again for trying out Trac.
Let me know how you make out.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread David J.
Already went broke down several time trying to resolve the zlib problem 
...heheh :)


In CentOS, when shared library libz.so.1 (zlib shared library) not available 
in it's system, several critical services could not be executed.


That is why I try to recover zlib using it's latest bz2 source. when it's 
done the qmail servicess and the rest are running back again. This is one of 
the reasons, why I want to upgrade my Toaster, beside it already 
outfashion.. :P


Thank's for your concerns

David J.
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Hi ES,

Without looking at the code in much detail, I can tell that the problem 
lies

with version numbering. This routine assumes (erroneously) that packages
have a version number that conforms to n.n.n-n.n.n format. While this is
true for toaster packages, it's not true for other packages such as zlib
which have both non-toaster and toaster versions. Why the toaster version 
of

zlib isn't named zlib-toaster, I've no idea. I also don't know what the
difference is between the toaster and non-toaster versions. I think it's
safe to say that you probably want the toaster version though (that's 
what

I'm running).


The name is kept the same (sans toaster) because it is a dependency
for so many packages. The reason we include it is because there are
clamd issues with older versions of zlib. It is not installed unless
necessary, for example on FC6 which ships with the same version of
zlib, we don't install it when using the fc6 install script.

If your toaster is not currently deployed (running live), the fix is 
easy.

Simply
# rpm -e --nodeps zlib
to remove the existing package. The toaster's zlib should be 
automatically

selected and installed, and away you go.


I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken 
system.


Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread David J.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error



Erik Espinoza wrote:

I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken
system.



Eric Shubes wrote:
 That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?



When zlib is not available, rpmbuild, rpm and yum cannot be executed. that 
was I encountered yesterday, untill I revive with other zlib source.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
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 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error
 
 
 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken
 system.
 
 Eric Shubes wrote:
  That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

 Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
 I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?

 
 When zlib is not available, rpmbuild, rpm and yum cannot be executed.
 that was I encountered yesterday, untill I revive with other zlib source.
 
 Regards,
 
 David J.
 

Nice recovery, David. My sincere apology if I led you astray.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread Vince Callaway
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 19:47 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote:
 Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

I sold my ISP business almost 10 years ago.  If one of my employees had
talked to someone the way this guy at clearwire talked to me I would
have fired him on the spot.

I'm going to drop a server at a local co-location facility to provide
mail routing for mine and my clients servers.  I will not be held
hostage by an ISP with an attitude problem.

soapbox
These big ISP's have no idea how bad their policies are for everyone.
They think they are doing a good thing, but in reality they are breaking
down the fundamental core.  Everyone might as well just use AOL and be
held hostage by ads and only seeing what they think you need to see.
Kinda like China.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 I attempted to upgrade my Qmail-toaster installation tonight, and I seem
 to have a pretty serious problem. I'm hoping someone can explain to me
 what this error message means and what I need to do about it. I have
 included, below, the entire log of the SSH session for the upgrade.
 
 
 supervise: fatal: unable to acquire send/supervise/lock: temporary failure
 
 

It's (mostly) ok, Roxanne, hang in there.

Everything appears to be up and running except qmail-send. I'm guessing that
there's probably a zombied (orphaned, parentless) qmail-send process
running, which has the send/supervise/lock file tied up, and is thus not
allowing the new qmail-send to start up.

What do you get from this command?:
# ps -ef | grep qmail-send

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Try copying the zlib binaries using wget or curl or something. Put
them into the lib dir, then install the rpm.

Erik

On 2/5/07, David J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error


 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken
 system.

 Eric Shubes wrote:
  That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

 Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
 I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?


When zlib is not available, rpmbuild, rpm and yum cannot be executed. that
was I encountered yesterday, untill I revive with other zlib source.

Regards,

David J.


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[qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Ray Lance



Eric Shubes wrote:

Ray Lance wrote:
  

Eric Shubes wrote:


Ray Lance wrote:
  
  

OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run
through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:

checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
See `config.log' for more details.
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)

*What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity
checking ok?*




distro/version?
  
  

# uname -a
Linux *hostname* 2.6.9-42.37.EL.c4test #1 Thu Jan 4 07:55:37 EST 2007
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux



# qtp-whatami
(if you have qtp installed)
  
  

qtp-whatami v0.2.1
DISTRO=CentOS
OSVER=4.4
ARCH=i686
BUILD_DIST=cnt40
BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested.

--



You shouldn't need the testing repo.
You should have run the cnt40-deps.sh script, and the cnt40-* series of
helper scripts.

  
OK, turned testing repo off again, and ran the cnt40 installation.  
Everything ok again except it still won't install the full djbdns after 
dnscache was installed via cnt40.  So I just left the dnscache running 
and it's working again.  But only with the default blacklists -- the 
moderate/agressive totally disable smtp.


Too bad the qmts scripts didn't refuse to operate and advise of cnt40 :)

Ray


Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

Eric Shubes wrote:
 That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. 
EGADS!

I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?



When zlib is not available, rpmbuild, rpm and yum cannot be executed.
that was I encountered yesterday, untill I revive with other zlib source.

Regards,

David J.



Nice recovery, David. My sincere apology if I led you astray.

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Well I consider I'm lucky enough to have you and the qmailtoaster, those 
recovery was succesfull, because It gave me clue about libz.so.1, so I 
thought that must be something wrong on the Zlib. These all done by the 
wonderfull Toaster you developed.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Stupid ISP's.

2007-02-05 Thread dan page
I work for a Wireless ISP out in boonies in Minnesota.  We had a similar 
problem working with qwest.  Their attitude towards your mail is:  Your 
mail, you mean our mail right?  

We were lucky enough to find a great competitive carrier.  We liked em 
so much we are now an authorized agent. There dsl is cheaper and its 
Sdsl which is great because Mail is mostly symmetric.  They block no 
ports AND you get a static IP included. (I know sounds almost to good to 
be true).  Anyway if you live in a qwest served region look Into Integra 
Telecom.   Or if you want I can get you a quote.  They require you buy 1 
of their lines to get the dsl and you have to use there modem, but its a 
pairgain modem and it seems to work better than actiontec, at least in 
my experience.   They even let us use there DSL for our wireless 
hotspots, which most providers won't (qwest will surprisingly).  K I'll 
stop here, since this is starting to sound like a commercial. 

Bottom Line, Stay away from the ILEC's and look at resellers, there are 
a ton of em and they really do care about their customers.


Just my 2 cents

Dan Page

Eric Shubes wrote:


Vince Callaway wrote:
 


Today is my day for dealing with stupidity.

First item is my ISP (centurytel) has decided to do header re-writes on
outbound mail.  Every piece of mail leaving my server had the from
address re-wrote to be from my fully qualified server name.  So much for
having virtual domains on my box.  When I called and bitched they stated
it was to cut down on forged spam headers.  I politely explained that
they should implement smtp authentication and to leave my headers alone.
They were clueless.

Fortunately a friend has a server co-located at godaddy.  I setup smtp
authorization on it and I'm back up and running.
   



I'd say you're lucky on this count. My ISP (Qwest) won't even let me send
mail from my domain (with authentication) through their mail server. Sending
addresses have to belong to the(ir) account.

I send out some stuff directly, but more and more as receiving MTAs block
dynamic addresses, I use dyndns's mailhop service, which has worked well for me.

 


The second clueless ISP is Clearwire.

After spending the good part of the weekend trying to figure out why
inbound mail and web were not working I called tech support.  The guy on
the phone told me they block those ports for dynamic IP.  For only $10 a
month more I can get a static IP and they will open up port 25, but not
port 80.
   



QWest can't even offer me a static address, as they have VDSL in my area.
They're not blocking ports though (yet, knock wood).

 


After talking with a supervisor he tells me they wont open the port and
the only people who can authorize it are the network operations center.
He is not allowed to connect me to them or give me the phone number.

I ask him to show me on the website where they state they do any port
blocking.  After fumbling about for 5 minutes he tells me to search for
legal and I will find a service agreement that states they have the
right to protect their network.  Clueless.

I'm not letting clearwire off the hook.  They completely misrepresented
the service.

   



Good luck finding a good ISP. There are some out there, in some areas.

 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 I attempted to upgrade my Qmail-toaster installation tonight, and I seem
 to have a pretty serious problem. I'm hoping someone can explain to me
 what this error message means and what I need to do about it. I have
 included, below, the entire log of the SSH session for the upgrade.

I see now after closer look that the old qmail-send wasn't able to terminate
cleanly:

 send: up (pid 27656) 2263473 seconds, want down

Process #27656 is your old qmail-send. It's parent process is probably 1
(init), running as root, right?
# ps -ef | grep 27656

If so, simply kill the process:
# kill -9 27656

I think that supervise will then be able to start it up.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send



On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:40 PM, Eric Shubes wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
I attempted to upgrade my Qmail-toaster installation tonight, and  
I seem
to have a pretty serious problem. I'm hoping someone can explain  
to me

what this error message means and what I need to do about it. I have
included, below, the entire log of the SSH session for the upgrade.


supervise: fatal: unable to acquire send/supervise/lock: temporary  
failure





It's (mostly) ok, Roxanne, hang in there.

Everything appears to be up and running except qmail-send. I'm  
guessing that

there's probably a zombied (orphaned, parentless) qmail-send process
running, which has the send/supervise/lock file tied up, and is  
thus not

allowing the new qmail-send to start up.

What do you get from this command?:
# ps -ef | grep qmail-send

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread David J.


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From: Roxanne Sandesara [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# qtp-newmodel
qtp-newmodel v0.2.3 starting Mon Feb  5 20:54:08 EST 2007
qtp-whatami v0.2.2
DISTRO=CentOS
OSVER=4.4
ARCH=i686
BUILD_DIST=cnt40
BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been 
tested.

If your OS is not current, you should consider upgrading it.
Do you want to proceed at your own risk? (yes, no) y/[n] : yes
Ok, here we go ...
Do you want to include development packages?
(This is *not* recommended for production servers)
Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) y / [n]|s / b / q : n
Getting package list ...

qmail Toaster is an integrated distribution.
Packages are preconfigured for the whole distro.
As a result, a partial install might be misconfigured.
Upgrading all packages to their latest version is strongly recommended.
Now that you've been warned, we will proceed with package selection ...

zlib-1.2.3-1.0.3 is already installed, bypassed



Roxanne, Are you using the Zlib from toaster..? or you have different zlin 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Ray Lance wrote:
 
 
 Eric Shubes wrote:
 Ray Lance wrote:
   
 Eric Shubes wrote:
 
 Ray Lance wrote:
   
   
 OK, had to re-enable testing repository to get qtms-deps.sh to run
 through.  But then I still get the same failure in libsrs2:

 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
 checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
 configure: error: C++ preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
 See `config.log' for more details.
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)


 RPM build errors:
 Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43209 (%build)

 *What further information would be helpful to get my lib/cpp sanity
 checking ok?*

 
 
 distro/version?
   
   
 # uname -a
 Linux *hostname* 2.6.9-42.37.EL.c4test #1 Thu Jan 4 07:55:37 EST 2007
 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 
 # qtp-whatami
 (if you have qtp installed)
   
   
 qtp-whatami v0.2.1
 DISTRO=CentOS
 OSVER=4.4
 ARCH=i686
 BUILD_DIST=cnt40
 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
 This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested.

 -- 
 

 You shouldn't need the testing repo.
 You should have run the cnt40-deps.sh script, and the cnt40-* series of
 helper scripts.

   
 OK, turned testing repo off again, and ran the cnt40 installation. 
 Everything ok again except it still won't install the full djbdns after
 dnscache was installed via cnt40.

I'm not the expert on DNS, but I think with djbdns you're only supposed to
install one of the 4 binary rpms that are generated from the source. Check
the comments in the .spec file.

 So I just left the dnscache running
 and it's working again.  But only with the default blacklists -- the
 moderate/agressive totally disable smtp.

Try using this for blacklists:

-r zen.spamhaus.org -r bl.spamcop.net -r opm.blitzed.org -r list.dsbl.org -r
cbl.abuseat.org -r dnsbl.sorbs.net

They're working pretty well for me. I'm going to (try to remember to) change
the -loose and -moderate blacklists with the next qtp release.

Are you able to verify that your dnscache is running properly?

 Too bad the qmts scripts didn't refuse to operate and advise of cnt40 :)

I know. That's why I wrote qtp-newmodel, so the scripts can tell what
settings to use, and there'll be just one set of scripts, so maintenance
will be easier too.

 Ray


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 
 - Original Message - From: Roxanne Sandesara
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:26 AM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# qtp-newmodel
 qtp-newmodel v0.2.3 starting Mon Feb  5 20:54:08 EST 2007
 qtp-whatami v0.2.2
 DISTRO=CentOS
 OSVER=4.4
 ARCH=i686
 BUILD_DIST=cnt40
 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat
 This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been
 tested.
 If your OS is not current, you should consider upgrading it.
 Do you want to proceed at your own risk? (yes, no) y/[n] : yes
 Ok, here we go ...
 Do you want to include development packages?
 (This is *not* recommended for production servers)
 Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) y / [n]|s / b / q : n
 Getting package list ...

 qmail Toaster is an integrated distribution.
 Packages are preconfigured for the whole distro.
 As a result, a partial install might be misconfigured.
 Upgrading all packages to their latest version is strongly recommended.
 Now that you've been warned, we will proceed with package selection ...

 zlib-1.2.3-1.0.3 is already installed, bypassed

 
 Roxanne, Are you using the Zlib from toaster..? or you have different
 zlin installed ??
 

She has the zlib from a previous toaster install. She's ok there.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

Dear Eric,

Is it safe to use my current Zlib 1.2.3 release to run the Toater ?? or 
zlib-toaster is much recommended. well I have download the revised 
qtp-newmodel script from you, but I have a liitle worry about the zlib I 
have on my toaster.


My zlib already been change, Do you have any clue or idea to restore my zlib 
back to the toaster release ??


Regards,

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
 qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
 root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send
 
 
Looks like that's the new qmail-send. The old one finally terminated ok?

What do you get now from
# qmailctl stat
?

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 Dear Eric,
 
 Is it safe to use my current Zlib 1.2.3 release to run the Toater ?? or
 zlib-toaster is much recommended. well I have download the revised
 qtp-newmodel script from you, but I have a liitle worry about the zlib I
 have on my toaster.
 
 My zlib already been change, Do you have any clue or idea to restore my
 zlib back to the toaster release ??
 
 Regards,
 
 David J.
 
David,

zlib-1.2.3 should be fine regardless of where it came from. That version
wasn't available on some distros a while back, so it was included with the
toaster until they caught up. You can safely keep the one you have, even if
qtp-newmodel asks you if you want to upgrade (simply decline zlib when it
asks). I'll be fixing qtp-newmodel in the near future to take this into account.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
 qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
 root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send
 
Hey Roxanne,
Please let us know when you're back to normal.
I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

Thank's Eric ..

I'll try to upgrade my toaster later .. at night, it still 11:07 am, in 
Jakarta.


I'll submit you what the results are. Mean while may have your number. I 
could say you are the most friendly guy in this list, ofcourse the rest are 
also friendly. But from the way you deal with threads are nice and fun.


Thank's again shubes...

Regards,

David J.


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From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]



David J. wrote:

Dear Eric,

Is it safe to use my current Zlib 1.2.3 release to run the Toater ?? or
zlib-toaster is much recommended. well I have download the revised
qtp-newmodel script from you, but I have a liitle worry about the zlib I
have on my toaster.

My zlib already been change, Do you have any clue or idea to restore my
zlib back to the toaster release ??

Regards,

David J.


David,

zlib-1.2.3 should be fine regardless of where it came from. That version
wasn't available on some distros a while back, so it was included with the
toaster until they caught up. You can safely keep the one you have, even 
if

qtp-newmodel asks you if you want to upgrade (simply decline zlib when it
asks). I'll be fixing qtp-newmodel in the near future to take this into 
account.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

What were you thingking .. the toaster or her .. :P

David J.

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From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade



Roxanne Sandesara wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send


Hey Roxanne,
Please let us know when you're back to normal.
I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
Everything's OK now. I did qmailctl stat, and everything is up and A- 
OK. Thank you. Please get some sleep. :)



On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Eric Shubes wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send


Hey Roxanne,
Please let us know when you're back to normal.
I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 Thank's Eric ..
 
 I'll try to upgrade my toaster later .. at night, it still 11:07 am, in
 Jakarta.
 
 I'll submit you what the results are. Mean while may have your number. I
 could say you are the most friendly guy in this list, ofcourse the rest
 are also friendly. But from the way you deal with threads are nice and fun.
 
 Thank's again shubes...
 
 Regards,
 
 David J.
 
 

Thanks for the Kudos, David. If it ain't fun, it's not worth doing. ;)

FWIW, you can go ahead and get started with the upgrade. The downloads and
compiles and such can run while the toaster's up. It'll get to a point where
it'll tell you it's ready to do the update:

session example
The major portion of the install/upgrade process is now complete.
You may rerun this script later and simply process the update.

We are ready to do the update now. qmail will be stopped.
Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) [y] / n|s / b / q : q
/session example

Simply enter q to quit at this point. Then when you rerun qtp-newmodel
later, it'll recognize everything that's already been done. Choose to reuse
 the existing sandbox, and it'll bring you right back to the same point
rather quickly. The entire upgrade should take you less that 10 minutes at
that point.

Best of luck!

P.S. By the time you get around to doing the upgrade, I might already be
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Nice, David.
I won't go there (to play it safe). ;)

David J. wrote:
 What were you thingking .. the toaster or her .. :P
 
 David J.
 
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 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade
 
 
 Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
 qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
 root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send

 Hey Roxanne,
 Please let us know when you're back to normal.
 I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Glad to hear it, Roxanne.

Out of curiosity, did you have to kill that qmail-send, or did it end on its
own? I've seen on occasion a *very* busy toaster end up with orphaned
processes before (usually smtp though).

I'd like to come up with additional checking (if necessary) to make sure the
toaster is down cleanly before continuing with the upgrade and the restart.
As it presently works, it simply sleeps for 5 seconds. The one you had must
have taken quite some time to end though (unless for some reason it wasn't
able to end normally).

Please let me know what happened so we can make things even smoother in the
future.

Thanks for using qtp-newmodel.

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 Everything's OK now. I did qmailctl stat, and everything is up and A-OK.
 Thank you. Please get some sleep. :)
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Eric Shubes wrote:
 
 Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
 qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
 root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send

 Hey Roxanne,
 Please let us know when you're back to normal.
 I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)



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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread David J.

Shubes wrote:



Thanks for the Kudos, David. If it ain't fun, it's not worth doing. ;)

FWIW, you can go ahead and get started with the upgrade. The downloads and
compiles and such can run while the toaster's up. It'll get to a point 
where

it'll tell you it's ready to do the update:

session example
The major portion of the install/upgrade process is now complete.
You may rerun this script later and simply process the update.

We are ready to do the update now. qmail will be stopped.
Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) [y] / n|s / b / q : q
/session example

Simply enter q to quit at this point. Then when you rerun qtp-newmodel
later, it'll recognize everything that's already been done. Choose to 
reuse

the existing sandbox, and it'll bring you right back to the same point
rather quickly. The entire upgrade should take you less that 10 minutes at
that point.

Does the qmail-toaster and courier-authlib from development are fine to 
installed..?? 



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
The process eventually ended on its own. But it took quite a while to  
do so - nearly 25 minutes after the entire upgrade process had  
completed. I didn't kill it, but it died. It would be good if we  
could mod newmodel to check and confirm that all the processes have  
been ended before it continues, but I'm afraid I myself don't quite  
know enough of what I'm doing to help with that.


I do have one question. I only noticed the line in the qtp-newmodel  
instructions about how to get the --spambox into the configuration  
after I started. So, unfortunately, I do not have that feature  
enabled. But I want it. Is there some way that I can reconfig things  
to get that in place, without tearing things down? I don't have to do  
it right away, certainly not tonight. But I'd like it if someone  
could perhaps help me work out a plan with some step-by-steps for how  
to do that, so that I can get it done.


Roxanne

Thanks again for the help. And thank you for building qtp-newmodel.  
That made my life much, much easier than it would have been otherwise.


On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:34 PM, Eric Shubes wrote:


Glad to hear it, Roxanne.

Out of curiosity, did you have to kill that qmail-send, or did it  
end on its

own? I've seen on occasion a *very* busy toaster end up with orphaned
processes before (usually smtp though).

I'd like to come up with additional checking (if necessary) to make  
sure the
toaster is down cleanly before continuing with the upgrade and the  
restart.
As it presently works, it simply sleeps for 5 seconds. The one you  
had must
have taken quite some time to end though (unless for some reason it  
wasn't

able to end normally).

Please let me know what happened so we can make things even  
smoother in the

future.

Thanks for using qtp-newmodel.

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Everything's OK now. I did qmailctl stat, and everything is up and  
A-OK.

Thank you. Please get some sleep. :)


On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Eric Shubes wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -ef | grep qmail-send
qmails   19124 19123  0 23:09 pts/000:00:00 qmail-send
root 20361  1535  0 23:26 pts/000:00:00 grep qmail-send


Hey Roxanne,
Please let us know when you're back to normal.
I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. ;)




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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David J. wrote:
 Shubes wrote:
 
 Thanks for the Kudos, David. If it ain't fun, it's not worth doing. ;)

 FWIW, you can go ahead and get started with the upgrade. The downloads
 and
 compiles and such can run while the toaster's up. It'll get to a point
 where
 it'll tell you it's ready to do the update:

 session example
 The major portion of the install/upgrade process is now complete.
 You may rerun this script later and simply process the update.

 We are ready to do the update now. qmail will be stopped.
 Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) [y] / n|s / b / q : q
 /session example

 Simply enter q to quit at this point. Then when you rerun qtp-newmodel
 later, it'll recognize everything that's already been done. Choose to
 reuse
 the existing sandbox, and it'll bring you right back to the same point
 rather quickly. The entire upgrade should take you less that 10
 minutes at
 that point.

 Does the qmail-toaster and courier-authlib from development are fine to
 installed..??
 

Probably, but I can't vouch for them (haven't installed them yet myself).

Do you feel lucky? ;)

EE can tell you better than I can. We're working on getting change logging
visibility improved. EE's very busy though.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yes. Dev is ready to go.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David J. wrote:
 Shubes wrote:

 Thanks for the Kudos, David. If it ain't fun, it's not worth doing. ;)

 FWIW, you can go ahead and get started with the upgrade. The downloads
 and
 compiles and such can run while the toaster's up. It'll get to a point
 where
 it'll tell you it's ready to do the update:

 session example
 The major portion of the install/upgrade process is now complete.
 You may rerun this script later and simply process the update.

 We are ready to do the update now. qmail will be stopped.
 Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) [y] / n|s / b / q : q
 /session example

 Simply enter q to quit at this point. Then when you rerun qtp-newmodel
 later, it'll recognize everything that's already been done. Choose to
 reuse
 the existing sandbox, and it'll bring you right back to the same point
 rather quickly. The entire upgrade should take you less that 10
 minutes at
 that point.

 Does the qmail-toaster and courier-authlib from development are fine to
 installed..??


Probably, but I can't vouch for them (haven't installed them yet myself).

Do you feel lucky? ;)

EE can tell you better than I can. We're working on getting change logging
visibility improved. EE's very busy though.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
 The process eventually ended on its own. But it took quite a while to do
 so - nearly 25 minutes after the entire upgrade process had completed. I
 didn't kill it, but it died. It would be good if we could mod newmodel
 to check and confirm that all the processes have been ended before it
 continues, but I'm afraid I myself don't quite know enough of what I'm
 doing to help with that.

I think I can take if from here. A little scripting here, a little testing
there... ;)

I think that's a little too long to wait though. I'm more of the opinion of
if it doesn't die on its own, KILL IT! It's not as bad as it may sound. I
just hate waiting for some unresponsive process to end when I'm trying to
bounce the system (quickly).

 I do have one question. I only noticed the line in the qtp-newmodel
 instructions about how to get the --spambox into the configuration after
 I started. So, unfortunately, I do not have that feature enabled. But I
 want it. Is there some way that I can reconfig things to get that in
 place, without tearing things down? I don't have to do it right away,
 certainly not tonight. But I'd like it if someone could perhaps help me
 work out a plan with some step-by-steps for how to do that, so that I
 can get it done.

I've thought about that too. The newmodel script really ought to let you
rebuild and reinstall the current version.

Why don't you write up a ticket for that? The brand spankin' new
qmailtoaster-plus trac system is up and running now. Go to
http://trac.shubes.net/qtp/ and select the New Ticket tab. Fill out
whatever information you feel is appropriate, and submit it. Then it'll be
tracked for all eternity, and you'll automatically be notified by email when
 anything happens to it (remember to put in your email address where it says
anonymous). Oh, and please be patient with the site, as it's presently
running on a puny PII-266! (although it's not all that slow)

Pretty cool.

 Roxanne
 
 Thanks again for the help. And thank you for building qtp-newmodel. That
 made my life much, much easier than it would have been otherwise.

Mine too! I hope that it will help all toaster users get up to date with the
latest software with the least amount of effort.

Oh, one more thing. You'll need to add NOP0FCHECK=1 to your tcp.smtp rules
(all lines except the first one) so you don't get an annoying message in
your smtp (and submission I expect) logs. You can have a look at
/opt/qtp-sandbox/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp (if you haven't removed the
sandbox) to see what it should look like. And don't forget to rebuild your
cdb's after the change.

Thanks for using (and helping improve) qtp-newmodel!

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[qmailtoaster] Export user list password from Sendmail

2007-02-05 Thread Gabriel Lai
Hi,

I would like to export every users from the existing email server running on 
Sendmail. Currently they are using a Management software called Blurquartz to 
manage the server  user lists. How can I export the user list from the server 
and import into QT??

Please assist.
Thanks


 

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread David J.


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with Qtp-newmodel upgrade


Oh, one more thing. You'll need to add NOP0FCHECK=1 to your tcp.smtp 
rules

(all lines except the first one) so you don't get an annoying message in
your smtp (and submission I expect) logs. You can have a look at
/opt/qtp-sandbox/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp (if you haven't removed the
sandbox) to see what it should look like. And don't forget to rebuild your
cdb's after the change.

What the /opt/qtp-sandbox/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp should look like after the 
new version installed.


David J. 



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