[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

I don't know exactly (and it may vary somewhat with different styles), but the bus racks in Seattle fit a current Atlantis, but not a 59 Clem. Rightly or wrongly they are designed for bikes with traditionally "normal" wheelbases, and by traditional standards, 47-48cm chainstays (which I like)

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I've been out on a 6-day tour and mostly offline, and got home today to the Blug and this 128-post (as I type) string. I've just read through 'em all and Scott is the only one who's broached the thing I latched onto when I read the Blug: What is a "combo tig-fillet BB shell?" Does anyone

[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

A general question to be sure & likely different systems have variability, but does anyone have an idea what wheelbase range may be accommodated by bus racks? It would seem that the wide variety of bikes used by commuters would require a fairly generous range. I understand the hold down bar

[RBW] Re: Well, Here’s a Spot of Snow

Congratulations Deacon! That is some compliment, to be used as a cover person on the Rivendell site. A well deserved compliment indeed. IanA On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 2:19:26 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Aye, Tom. I’m a cover lad now! They wisely asked for a photo that has me >

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Since the issue of public transport has arisen, and people are concerned about how longer chainstay bikes will fit onto trains & buses, my question is: How much variation in wheelbase can be accommodated by typical bus racks & train hangers? E.G., the difference in wheelbase between my old

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Iono I'm liking the new Atlantis better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I think that's it. Notice the "tentacular" stays. Something about a fax'd sketch that got mis-interpreted, IIRC. It was a limited run, blind faith purchase, and those who got them who commented really liked them. May have been the first super long chainstay design. Others may have better

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] FS: Large Tan SaddleSack

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

36 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 8:25:57 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > 68 > > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Anyone have a spare Rivendell mug they're willing to part with?

i love mine a lot. it was also a gift and it basically gets its own little shelf in the kitchen. i am lo klutzy and am pretty careful when soap is involved. maybe there is enough unfilled desire that you could initiate a class action pre paid order through riv? bo -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

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33 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 6:50 PM Dave wrote: > 88 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to

[RBW] Re: Pre-MIT Atlantis vs. Hunq for more roadish riding

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[RBW] Re: Pre-MIT Atlantis vs. Hunq for more roadish riding

I’ve had both. 29er hunq and 650b Atlantis. Id look at top tube size and wheel size and tire clearance as the main differentiators. Tubing is very very similar. Just stays and fork crown are a little thicker on the hunq. I had drops on the hunq and it was ok but not ideal. In the same way, I

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

76 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-4, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and

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[RBW] Re: Pre-MIT Atlantis vs. Hunq for more roadish riding

The Atlantis is less beefy and made to fit drop bars better, I would hands down pick it for road riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I found a Toyo built Atlantis fully built up for $1600 on this group...keep an eye peeled, you can probably get one you like. On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 7:30:09 PM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > My comments should all be viewed through the filter of someone who really > wants an

[RBW] Re: New Roadini; Bag... Sackville or Swift Industries

This is all super helpful! Bob, to answer your question about saddle height, 32.6", which is about 3/4" higher than in the photo. I'm 6'1, and I thought this bike would be too big, it's not, it's perfect, tho I might get a shorter stem to bring the bars a hair closer, eventually. I think

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14 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:46:46 PM UTC-5, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and

[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

Thanks. If a 51 fits, but only just, I suspect a 58 might be iffy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

68 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:46:46 PM UTC-5, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I don’t believe I insulted Grant’s work, and sure didn’t intend to. I didn’t say anything about not fitting geometry charts or my ideals - I said it may no longer fit a bike rack on the bus, or the hooks on the trains. It is just a practical matter. Eamon Seattle -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Because angles On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-4, Scott McLain wrote: > > I would be interested in learning what drove the decision on the bottom > bracket shell/ lug whatever. Fillet brazed doesn’t sound as good as > lugged. > > I think it is super cool that Grant pops in and

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a spare Rivendell mug they're willing to part with?

I am not sure that this is the exact model but this is the company thats makes the mugs for Riv. It has no cool graphics but it gets the job done: https://www.redwingstoneware.com/shop/water-cooler-mugs-12-oz/ On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 8:55:21 PM UTC-4, thalasin wrote: > > My Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Well, Here’s a Spot of Snow

Just got home. It was treacherous with black ice this morning, but passable this morning since so few cars were out on my roads at that early hour. The "snowcrete" was inches to my right when I did yield the lane. Tonight enough had melted (sublimated) in the sub freezing daylight to clear my

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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Re: [RBW] Pre-MIT Atlantis vs. Hunq for more roadish riding

Hi Tom, For whatever it's worth, I had a Hunqapillar and (still) an Atlantis. When I had to decide which one to keep, and since I was doing pretty much just road riding, the Atlantis won hands down. I don't really know what it was exactly that made the difference, but riding the Atlantis was

Re: [RBW] Atlantis fork axle to crown

Hi Mike, Sorry about the delay, I was out of town. My original Atlantis fork for my 61cm 700c frame measures about 39.4cm (hard to get an exact measurement) in a straight line from the top of the crown (right above the middle white dot) to the center of the axle, and when trying to measure along

[RBW] Pre-MIT Atlantis vs. Hunq for more roadish riding

For those who've owned both, or have significant time on both, how would you compare them for road riding? I get the idea that a lot of people (no, not all) use their Hunq's for more roadish ventures than not. I imagine that as off-road riding veers toward rougher stuff, the Hunq would

[RBW] Bump - FS: 61cm Waterford Atlantis frame, low trail custom fork and CK headset - $1,500 OBO

Hi all, The upcoming lower cost Taiwanese Atlantii calls for a reduction in the asking price for my beloved frame. Now asking $1500 including shipping to CONUSA or pickup in the SF South Bay for $1400. Included is the Chris King headset with a drilled cable stop I was using to attach the

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

My comments should all be viewed through the filter of someone who really wants an Atlantis, got excited about the prospect of being able to afford one, only to realize that this new version would not work for me. I’m sure it’s a great bike, and don’t mean to poop on anybody’s party lawn. Maybe

[RBW] Lower price Atlantis!

I would be interested in learning what drove the decision on the bottom bracket shell/ lug whatever. Fillet brazed doesn’t sound as good as lugged. I think it is super cool that Grant pops in and out of the forum to shed light on the why. Since he has given us the “mic drop”, can anyone

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Eamon said *"Jeez Bill, this is a discussion forum, not a positive approving comments only forum. :p "* You are right. Nobody is required to be generous and kind in their comments towards Grant or his work. If you want to insult his work, you can. Just be aware that your honest and sincere

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: Big Beautiful Orange 'beam

Just called, only to find out that it's basically spoken for :/ Probably for the best though for the finances... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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[RBW] FS: Large Tan SaddleSack

This is also posted on Instagram so the timestamp rule is in effect. https://www.instagram.com/p/BgpRiEwAreK/ Thanks. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I do think the new Atlantis is going to be a better touring bike than the previous versions, not that the previous versions were bad. The one I had I liked, but it was mostly a trail bike for me. It excelled in a lot of areas even though I wasn't riding it as a touring bike. In a fit of

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: Big Beautiful Orange 'beam

The big ones don’t come around often, Tim... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] WTB 56 cm Hunqapillar

Thought these came in 54 & 58... did the hunqa-sizes change ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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49 Ryan Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Anyone have a spare Rivendell mug they're willing to part with?

I looked to order a mug two days ago and searched all over the site and couldn’t find it. Was afraid they may have stopped selling them because the item disappeared without a photo remaining and an “out of stock” notation. I almost bought one when I was ordering a bunch of stuff during the

[RBW] Re: Big Beautiful Orange 'beam

Oh no! It's my size! Ahh!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] WTB- Sackville Saddle Sack Large, Pref Olive

I posted a Large Tan Sack for sale...just wanted to give you a "heads up". Best, Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Yep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Jeez Bill, this is a discussion forum, not a positive approving comments only forum. :p As for myself, I totally applaud most of the changes, and totally agree that long (and short) chainstays can have positive ride qualities (I like high, low, and mid trail too). It’s just that for ME a

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

*13* On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-4, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame

[RBW] FS: Large Tan SaddleSack

I can provide more pics upon request. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

31 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-4, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and

[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

43 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:46:46 PM UTC-5, John wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and

[RBW] WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

Black medium Saddlesack procured. Thanks to all who sent me leads and offers. With appreciation, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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26 Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 7:12:47 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The Tentacular Mystery Bike became the Bombadil?? I did not know this. > > Joe "I first called them tentacles. You're welcome" Bernard > Is this one of the mystery bikes or something later?

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

> > . > > > You have snow on the ground 7 months a year? If so, maybe your "other > bike" should be something like this > > > :-) You mock, but if you only knew here's the road and hot springs 10 miles from my house. These tourists are shuttled up on dog sleds, riding side-by-side

[RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

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[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

The Tentacular Mystery Bike became the Bombadil?? I did not know this. Joe "I first called them tentacles. You're welcome" Bernard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

So the sample 50cm Grilver Roadini I picked up for my wife via the Web Specials Frames page on rivbike.com arrived today. Totally well packed as expected. The frameset is magnificent--again, expected. What was not expected--the downtube Roadini decal. Instead of the red/green decal, it came

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On 03/22/2018 06:36 PM, iamkeith wrote: Honestly, I think that Weigle's got the "comfortable" and "long distance" things well in hand.  Maybe not the "tent plus cannibal cooking pot plus your entire wardrobe stuffed into a duffel bag" side of "touring," though. ...As

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I have a "new long wheelbase" Bombadil. I am sure that there were many that > mourned the loss of the "short wheelbase" Bombadil and longed for the > double top tube instead of the diaga-tube and tentacles. I just know that > if I had to ride one of my bikes around the world, this would be

[RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

Hi I seem to have Two of the Riv Goines posters. I’ll never frame and hang both, SO I’m giving one away...I have a number between 1 & 100

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

> > > > Honestly, I think that Weigle's got the "comfortable" and "long > distance" things well in hand. Maybe not the "tent plus cannibal > cooking pot plus your entire wardrobe stuffed into a duffel bag" side of > "touring," though. > ...As does the Homer/Sam.I know this wasn't your

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I think the new Atlantis will absolutely be a better touring bike! I have a 56cm, 26" 1st run Atlantis and its the squirrelest of all the Riv's I've owned/tried. (Ram, Rom, Heron, Bleriot, Joe) Something about the smaller wheel diameter combined with road bike geo, doesn't put a lot of weight on

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Grant’s vision for improving bikes has grown and evolved over time and we are all here becuase we literally love the ride. He received flack for wider tires, was proven right, country bikes, was proven right. Grant, keep being the mad genius! And let me know when one of these long chain stay

[RBW] WTB 56 cm Hunqapillar

I'll have a 56 Hunqapillar frame/fork/head set for sale when my 59 arrives. It should arrive in 2 to 5 months. (Hopefully sooner than later). Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On 03/22/2018 05:42 PM, iamkeith wrote: Jeesh, you guys.  I think that I, or maybe most of us, forget how idiosyncratic our world views are.   I'm certainly guilty of  forgetting that most of this forum is made up of people how live in or near urban areas and ride on paved surfaces - however

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Summary: The Rivendell Atlantis is a masterpiece. It is arguably the finest loaded touring frameset ever made. Rivendell/Grant just put a lot of time, money and emotional energy into a re-design of their true "flagship". They made it ~$1000 less expensive, more stable (longer) and more

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I rode the 56 cm / 650B Atlantis last summer at RBWHQ, and noticed it was subtly different from my 58 cm / 700c '03. Roman gave me the executive summary of changes without dwelling on anything. I noticed the chainstays looked straighter than the "S" curve on mine. He may have mentioned

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

've ridden every iteration of the Atlantis and have convinced myself (if nobody else!) that I have a good feel for how they ride. I know it's easy to look at numbers or air gaps and lock in to a conclusion, but riding the bike (which, I understand, few people of the luxury to do before buying it)

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Jeesh, you guys. I think that I, or maybe most of us, forget how idiosyncratic our world views are. I'm certainly guilty of forgetting that most of this forum is made up of people how live in or near urban areas and ride on paved surfaces - however 'rough' they may be. But remember that

[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

51cm. On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > Roberta, out of curiosity, what size Joe Appaloosa do you have? > > Eamon > > On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 8:35:12 AM UTC-7, REC wrote: >> >> When I got my Joe Appaloosa, I rode it to a bus depot and tested it

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Of course they all ride great. They're Rivs! :) Has there ever been a bad one? I'm not sure I've heard of one. But, each has different areas in which they excel. I doubt a Roadeo would make as a good a tourer as the current Atlantis or the Atlantis as good for a club ride as the Roadeo. But,

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On 03/22/2018 05:06 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: Steve, That fat bike is a good example of what I was trying to say.  I suspect this may be a difference of _optimized_ for the fringe versus just _passable_ at the fringe.  Expanding into the passable scope may not sacrifice the other end of

[RBW] Re: Big Beautiful Orange 'beam

I can concur that Will is a lovely fellow to talk to on the phone. And I hate talking on the phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Steve, That fat bike is a good example of what I was trying to say. I suspect this may be a difference of _optimized_ for the fringe versus just _passable_ at the fringe. Expanding into the passable scope may not sacrifice the other end of the range as much as the optimized scope. But, the more

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I think we might want to wait 'til someone's ridden the new Atlantis before we completely lose our freaking minds!!! I've owned: Romulus, Bleriot, AHH, Rambouillet, Saluki, Appaloosa, a couple Clems (one H, one L), and now a Cheviot. They all rode great, and even the very roadish Romulus

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On 03/22/2018 04:13 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: The point which I flopped in making is that a bike that "performs" at the fringes can certainly handle the middle, but not necessarily the other way around. I should have been more clear. Image result for fat bike Performs great at the fringe,

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