[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On 6/29/09, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Well. The consensus seems to be that it's my fault. This is not exactly what I was looking for. Doesn't anyone want to suggest special gravel wheels or, even better, a new frame of the country variety? I mean I fell twice. Should be some

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On 6/30/09, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/29/09, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Well. The consensus seems to be that it's my fault. This is not exactly what I was looking for. Doesn't anyone want to suggest special gravel wheels or, even better, a new frame of the

[RBW] Re: seat bag support

2009-06-30 Thread fenderbender
If you guy's have a evening or two to spare check out Jobst Brandt's great photos from 40 years of touring the alps. http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_Alps/Gallery/ It's a bit hard to tell but it seem his friend Bill Robertson has a nifty diy bag stand off that

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Fenders

2009-06-30 Thread Angus
I did the quick release clips thing like Jay. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/3476231554/sizes/o/ I have removed the rear wheel (most recently to add a fixed cog) by unclipping the fender stays from the quick release clips. When the chain is in the small chainring, the axle is at the

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread Angus
George, Jan Heine and Jim Edgar make some very good points. I spent five years doing cyclocross (on a Rivendell) and riding narrow tires on loose surfaces took practice. Lots of feeling the bike sliding around under you. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/1992613270/ I think it's 90+%

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread palincss
Quoting JimD rasterd...@comcast.net: Steve, What fenders are those on your Saluki with the Hetres? thanks, JimD 58mm Honjo fluted. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
Only half my tongue is in my cheek. (The other half is in my pocket.) I really love my Monocog 29er set up as a on/off road allrounder with said BAs and Snowcats, drops, fenders, and a modest 63 gear. Not Rivendellian, but unfortunately the only Riv that comes close, the Bomdadil, only takes

[RBW] Re: Bicycle Times magazine #2

2009-06-30 Thread Elfardo
I have the first issue. I'll give it a big fat it's ok. Better than Bicycling. Commuter based content for the most part. Kind of a more mainstream Urban Velo minus the fixie fixation. Must not have made a huge impression on me as, until your post, I'd forgotten it existed. Guess I'll check out

[RBW] Re: Bicycle Times magazine #2

2009-06-30 Thread EricP
I'd check with them. Issue #2 came out about a month ago. Could be your subscription was not processed in time for it. I'm a subscriber. Like it enough. Whether it will make it long term remains to be seen. I'm withholding judgement. Definitely not the same vein as Bicycle Quarterly or the

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm a startling 5'10 in bare feet on a level, hard surface. I've not ridden 584, and my comments about it were largely facetious. I went from 60 mm Big Apples in the 559 size (26 3/4 inches diam) to ditto on 722s (29 1/4) and the float over sand, the cush over, say, washboard, and the traction

[RBW] Tubus rack and SKS fenders

2009-06-30 Thread EricP
Been thinking of putting a Tubus Cargo rack on my Hillborne for some S24O or maybe even a mini-tour. When trying things out last night, appears the rack stays hit the fender stays. Checking the Rivendell website, it appears Grant bent the fender stays on his Atlantis to avoid this issue. Is

[RBW] Re: Tubus rack and SKS fenders

2009-06-30 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, EricPericpl...@aol.com wrote: Been thinking of putting a Tubus Cargo rack on my Hillborne for some S24O or maybe even a mini-tour.  When trying things out last night, appears the rack stays hit the fender stays.  Checking the Rivendell website, it appears

[RBW] Re: Tubus rack and SKS fenders

2009-06-30 Thread Patrick in VT
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[RBW] A new blog.

2009-06-30 Thread Cycletex
Just what this world needs. A new bike blog. http://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/ Most posts composed aboard my Quickbeam while slowly going mad from the sound of granite crushing underneath a pair of paselas. I hope you enjoy, Clif Wright

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
Do you have the BAs on a road bike frame or a mountain bike frame? I could probably do alright on a 29er, as MTB geometry puts the rider somewhat lower in any event. When I first put the BAs on the road frame, I tried lowering the seat. On my first ride it occurred to me the higher tires do not

[RBW] Re: Tubus rack and SKS fenders

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
I am trying to remember which Tubus I had on a camper I sold recently. I was able to attach the SKS to the eyelet on the rack itself. You must have a different model, as I seem to recall it was pretty obvious. On Jun 30, 9:19 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Been thinking of putting a Tubus

[RBW] Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread zrainryder
Just picked up an unusual bike on Craig's list (Serotta Hors Categorie). Even though its not a Rivendell, it does have an extended head tube and the curved seat stays really work in smoothing out road noise. It came with Campagnolo Veloce 10 speed groupo (12-28) and a compact crank (34-50). Not

[RBW] Rivendell on Seattle to Portland

2009-06-30 Thread Frank
Is anyone on the list planning to ride STP this year? I'm going down in two days this year on my Saluki, and may end up riding with another Bleriot rider. We'll be overnighting in Centralia at the halfway point, so if anyone has correlative plans and would like to meet up, it would be good to

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
My camper has a Campy front der and crank, Maxi-Car hubs and Shimano freewheel. Everything works fine. Of course, I use friction shifters, not index. Index shifters may get confused when you mix and match. Isn't it amazing how technological advances force customer loyalty? You would almost

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Fenders

2009-06-30 Thread sanjoser
well, I'm going to go against convention here and recommend taking the fenders off. I managed to figure out how to drop the rear wheel to fix a flat, but I'm sticking with a fenderless QB. it was a liberating experience, and I'm thinking of removing the fenders from my atlantis now. best ts On

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Brewster Fong
On Jun 30, 8:01 am, zrainryder zdree...@gmail.com wrote: Just picked up an unusual bike on Craig's list (Serotta Hors Categorie). Even though its not a Rivendell, it does have an extended head tube and the curved seat stays really work in smoothing out road noise.  It came with Campagnolo

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Brewster Fong
On Jun 30, 8:29 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Isn't it amazing how technological advances force customer loyalty? You would almost think that was the reason for the 'advance' and not improved experience for the rider.  Nah, manufacturers would never dream of such a thing. I

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Aaron Thomas
I find it hard to believe that your current 50/34x12-28 setup doesn't give you low enough gearing. I have a 50/36 with 12-27 and it gets me just about anywhere. Perhaps you should try your new ride out for a couple of months before tinkering. You might find that it gets you where you want to go

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
Finally, I do agree that mfrs want customers loyalty. There going to design their components to work seamlessly. The fact that its incompatible with another mfr's system is probably not a consideration. Good Luck! In the good old days of friction shifting, manufacturers won customer loyalty

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Phil B
zrainryder - I'd suggest changing out the cranks. Campy front shifter/derailers don't care what crank you are using. Once you start changing out stuff in the back it opens a can of worms which (for me) is solved eventually with spending too much money. On another note you may want to ride it

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread James Warren
-Original Message- From: Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com I find it hard to believe that your current 50/34x12-28 setup doesn't give you low enough gearing. I believe it. I can only speak for myself, but anything that doesn't go as low as 34 x 34 is unacceptable. I live among

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Brewster Fong
On Jun 30, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Finally, I do agree that mfrs want customers loyalty. There going to design their components to work seamlessly. The fact that its incompatible with another mfr's system is probably not a consideration. Good Luck! In the

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread JoelMatthews
Doesn't matter. As long as Shimano dominates, we going to get what they want you to get. Even with Sram coming out with its group, which btw is Shimano-compatible, you're still have basically proprietary systems. That's the way things work. Friction is not coming back. Hey, that ship has left,

[RBW] Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Gino Zahnd
For those of you who ride a Rivendell, and also ride a Surly Cross Check or Travelers Check, what are the sizing differences? It looks like top tube is going to be the best bet on sizing a Surly, but if you know of any amazing secrets, please let me in! I'm currently trying to decide whether or

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Gino Zahndginoza...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who ride a Rivendell, and also ride a Surly Cross Check or Travelers Check, what are the sizing differences? It looks like top tube is going to be the best bet on sizing a Surly, but if you know of any

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Jon Cameron
Hi Gino, I own and ride a 55cm Romulus, and a 55cm Bleriot and they fit and ride beautifully for my five foot six inch body with an 80cm PBH. I also own and ride a 52cm Surly cross check, and it too fits and rides very well. The various strengths and weaknesses of the products from both

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Gino Zahnd
Thanks Jon. Yeah, I don't want to get into the strengths and weaknesses. I know them. Just want to know the proper size. :-) On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jon Cameron j.cameron4...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Hi Gino, I own and ride a 55cm Romulus, and a 55cm Bleriot and they fit and ride

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Bill Connell
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Gino Zahndginoza...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who ride a Rivendell, and also ride a Surly Cross Check or Travelers Check, what are the sizing differences? It looks like top tube is going to be the best bet on sizing a Surly, but if you know of any

[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel

2009-06-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The bike, or what is left of it, is a 2008 (I think it's an '08) Redline Monocog 29er, the cheap tigg'd chromo very compact 29er mtb frame that, built up OEM, rolls out the door for a list of $500 plus tax. I've considerably upgraded mine, but the frame, despite it's girder-like stiffness and

[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Seattle to Portland

2009-06-30 Thread RoadieRyan
I last did STP in 2004 when I did the one day version with friends and boy did we use the whole 24 hours ;-) For some reason I haven't gone back since. That said its a great ride, well supported ,big turnout, good route etc. Hope you have a great dry ride with the wind at your back, a tandem

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread RoadieRyan
One option is Campy does make a 13x29 10 speed cassette (as does their aftermarket supplier Miche) Only one more tooth than you currently have but no compatablity issues. PBK often has killer deals -when they are in stock http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=L5067 For source material I

[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Seattle to Portland

2009-06-30 Thread Eric Norris
All this talk of STP is a great lead-in for a reminder to Riv owners in Oregon and Washington that the riders of Wheels North will be coming to town sometime in the next two weeks. We are riding 1,100 miles from California to Seattle to help raise funds for Histiocytosis, a rare and

[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Seattle to Portland

2009-06-30 Thread franklyn
My wife and I did the one-day version in 2007. It's a great experience. That year pirates were rampant and at some rest stops the volunteers were rationing the remaining food. Bring your own electrolytes if you don't like gatorade. I did it on my Specialized Expedition Deluxe touring bike. It's a

[RBW] Grand Tour Double Century Ride Report (or why I missed the S24O)

2009-06-30 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi Everyone, My brother, Tim, a friend of his, Bill, and myself completed the Grand Tour Double Century out of Malibu this past weekend. I've posted my write-up here if you care to read. I'm hoping to add a few pics eventually, but there will be nothing exciting about them:

[RBW] Re: Grand Tour Double Century Ride Report (or why I missed the S24O)

2009-06-30 Thread Esteban
Well, Joe, that's a pretty darn good excuse to miss out on camping. Great narrative! On Jun 30, 2:17 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, My brother, Tim, a friend of his, Bill, and myself completed the Grand Tour Double Century out of Malibu this past weekend. I've posted

[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Seattle to Portland

2009-06-30 Thread Darren Stone
Sure, I'm doing it with a couple of friends. Coming down from Vancouver (Canada). I'll be riding a butterscotch 650A Saluki and talking with a funny accent. Mid-point for us is Napavine, WA. -Darren. On Jun 30, 8:23 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone on the list planning to ride

[RBW] anyone actually tried Rivendell's Bullmoose bar yet?

2009-06-30 Thread David Sprunger
Hi. I have been on the road and away from email for a few weeks, but I visited the Rivendell site today and saw this listing for a Nitto Bullmoose bar/stem. Has anyone actually seen and/or ridden one yet? http://www.rivbike.com/#product=16-198 David Sprunger Fargo, ND

[RBW] Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

2009-06-30 Thread Mike
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[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

2009-06-30 Thread Mike
Be sure to scroll down through the pictures. Interesting rackage. On Jun 30, 5:24 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: These'll look great on a Bombadil. http://www.rivbike.com//#product=16-198 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: anyone actually tried Rivendell's Bullmoose bar yet?

2009-06-30 Thread Mike
We both posted about this at the same time. That picture just went up. They look beautiful. Did you notice the front rack that's also on display in one of the photos? Weird. On Jun 30, 5:24 pm, David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi.  I have been on the road and away from email for a few

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Mike
Hey Gino, like Jon say, size it by TT, not PBH. That's the answer you're looking for. Good luck. Did you see that Gunnar now makes a touring bike? On Jun 30, 5:37 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 60cm CC and a 62cm Rambouillet and 63cm Hilsen. The 60cm Surly feels a tad out of

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Bill Connell
I agree on the TT sizing. Also, if you can, buy it with the steerer uncut so you can get the bars where you want them. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mikemjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Gino, like Jon say, size it by TT, not PBH. That's the answer you're

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread EricP
Another one for TT sizing. In fact, Eric of Surly told me that. After seeing me ride a 62cm Cross Check. Way too big for me. Made it work with Albatross bars. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 30, 7:50�pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: I agree on the TT sizing. Also, if you can, buy

[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

2009-06-30 Thread EricP
Per the read about it that's the intention. I especially like the idea of having it match the frame. But I always loved the look of the old Ritchey and Fisher MountainBikes. Personally, my favorite setup was the old Nitto double clamp stem and riser bars from the 1984 Stumpjumper. Very heavy,

[RBW] Re: Tubus rack and SKS fenders

2009-06-30 Thread EricP
I tried that. Didn't work. Even tried the upper hole in the rack for the fenders. Also didn't work. Ended up using the (Tubus) spacers and put the fenders on the lower eyelets. The fender line is not perfect. But the biggest problem was the upper nut hitting the rack strut. Worked out by

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread rcnute
I had a 54 cm CC that seemed to work. Had a 57 Bleriot and 58 Saluki. On Jun 30, 5:57 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Another one for TT sizing.  In fact, Eric of Surly told me that. After seeing me ride a 62cm Cross Check.  Way too big for me.  Made it work with Albatross bars. Eric

[RBW] Re: anyone actually tried Rivendell's Bullmoose bar yet?

2009-06-30 Thread AJ
I was at the shop about a week ago and saw the bullmoose; very nicely done, with a gorgeous curve. I ordered one in fire engine red to match the Bombadil. I threw a leg over, but did not take a ride. My brief first impression is that it will be a very comfortable bar.

[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!

2009-06-30 Thread BPustow
In a message dated 6/30/2009 9:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ericpl...@aol.com writes: Per the read about it that's the intention. Sorry, I don't get it. Asking what the extension is seems like a logical question. Bill **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in

[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question

2009-06-30 Thread Christopher Paul
Why not couple your Ram? Speed and All day comfort. The Surely can't hold a candle imho. Cheers, Chris P.S. I want to thank whoever directed me to the Hubbub.com web site for the Mixing Components question. My LBS tried to sell me on a more costly and less desirable 10 speed Campagnolo

[RBW] Re: Mixing Components

2009-06-30 Thread Christopher Paul
Finally was able to track down your reply. THANK-YOU My LBS balked about using my parts in this fashion (I have a history of giving them parts and paying for their labor, so this is nothing new). I directed them to the link you gave me, and the owner acknowledged that this was a viable