[RBW] Whidbey Island Rides
This high desert rider will be visiting Whidbey Island in Washington next month and would like some ride recommendations. We will be staying near Coupeville. Looking for medium length rides--30-50 miles with interesting views, quite roads and perhaps an interesting place to stop and refuel. Also, any ideas for other activities would be appreciated. I've been there before but only in the fall and winter, so I'm looking forward to experiencing the northwest at its summer best! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Your Boulder and Rivendell compare/contrast.
My research on this topic suggests the Boulder really shines with the skinny lightweight tubing. Are the Boulder owners here riding the skinny bikes or the regular tubing? Does the praise for the Boulder's ride apply regardless of the tube set selected? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation
I don't do any of the harsh riding you've described. My best guess is that they come out of adjustment quickly and once there is play in there they quickly deteriorate. I make an effort to check them frequently and try to keep them adjusted but my preference is obviously for a headset that stays properly adjusted. Sounds like both the IRD Roller Blaster and the CK are generally endorsed by this group, with the one negative review for a difficult installation. hmmm. On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:15:08 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: Wow, I've ridden bicycles all my life and have never replaced a headset and rarely service them. My 2012 Hillborne has the original headset with 12,000+ miles and I haven't even checked it. I had planned on servicing it this summer though. What do you think causes the rapid failure of yours? Do you do a lot of offoading and/or stream crossings without fenders? Ride in a lot of rain without fenders? I'm curious. If this is the case, I'm also curious to know if the general consensus is that sealed cartridge bearings would alleviate headset deterioration for those riding in extreme conditions without fenders. On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: I've managed to notch the Shimano 105 headset on my Rom. My shop says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but I'm researching a new one. This is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that will last. I've considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money. Also considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site. Other ideas would be appreciated!. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation
I've managed to notch the Shimano 105 headset on my Rom. My shop says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but I'm researching a new one. This is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that will last. I've considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money. Also considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site. Other ideas would be appreciated!. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Help Riv: Let people ride your bike
I have a buddy who is a solid triathlete while simultaneously loving lugged steel and rides a very pretty all campy Tommasini. We were brewing beer in my garage last month and he tested my wife's LHT, my Romulus, and then my Atlantis. When he came back from his circumnavigation of the cul de sac on my Atlantis he was sporting a huge grin. He bought a Sam Hillborne the next day. On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-6, Doug Williams wrote: Boost sales at Rivendell by letting your friends test ride your bike! Riv should see a few Bosco Bar orders and an order for Albatross Bars simply because I have let people ride my old mountain bike with Bosco's and my new Homer with Albas. Once people ride them, they are instantly sold on getting them. Everybody likes my bell and my SaddleSacks (Large and Small) as well. :-) Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Romulus
I've considered the A. Homer Hilsen as a replacement for my Rom. I hear some people saying they are very similar and others saying the Homer is a more robust frame. Will be interested in seeing responses to this post. Outside of Riv-land I've read positive reviews of the SOMA ES. Waterford/Gunnnar make sport touring frames which will be similar in function to your Rom. A San Marcos in your size is probably a double top tube which you may or may not want. On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 8:32:07 AM UTC-6, Jombini wrote: Hoping to replace my 61 cm Romulus with similar frame. Live in RI. Thoughts? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New ACW mugs inspired by the orange...
I've been using an aeropress for almost two years and until this moment I couldn't figure out how to use the funnel. On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-6, Jeff wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: Thank you for the rapid shipping, Brad! What a fantastic wee cup. Here are my initial impressions/observations: -- Aeropress is too wide to sit (rest) solidly inside the mug, but the mug is wide enough that coffee can be brewed into it using the Aeropress -- doing so requires punging with one hand on the plunger, the other on the winder section so the Aeropress doesn't ram/wedge into the mug. I brew using the standard, and it seems like the inverted might be awkward, at greater risk to spill? Others will have to comment on that. Not a big issue with me and the Aeropress is not what I take bikepacking, Helix cone is. ... I recently ordered and am anticipating receipt of this fine looking mug myself. I'm also an aeropress owner and regular user. I've found, that with some mugs where the aeropress fit is a bit sketchy, as you've described, Deacon, that I can use the funnel, which I believe is primarily meant as a means to better funnel the coffee into the aeropress, to adapt it to a more solid fit/feel while plunging, to get the brew out of the press, as illustrated on this mug that doesn't really need the funnel to fit well, but was my cup du jour: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Yeah, I was mostly hoping to speed up the Atlantis a little, but it just didn't happen. Its already very comfortable with the big Supremes, but my time over the route was the same with both tires. Maybe on a lighter wheel the difference would be more pronounced. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as fast as he wanted. My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and it rolls extremely well On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front. On my test ride the other day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-6, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I hope I didn't dissuade someone from trying something new. The reality is the compass tires were more comfortable than the marathons but didn't improve the performance enough in my calculus to be worth trading for the flat-resistance the marathons offer. This is a commuter bike and I don't think the Barlow Pass is a great choice for me for that application. Perhaps my expectations were too high after my experience with the Stampede Pass on my Rom. My buddy is building up a Hillborne with the Barlow Pass XL tires and I'm looking forward to taking that for a spin. Maybe I was just having a bad day or the tires couldn't overcome the inherent sluggishness of my heavy wheels, or maybe the Atlantis is simply a beast that will never float like my Rom no matter what tire I put on it. Many variables. Also, on a populaire/brevet I rode several weeks ago there was a guy on an old Raleigh with the EL Barlow Pass tires and he swore they were creme brûlée. He finished the 200k with the fastest time of the day. He would have been fast on a tricycle, but clearly the tire was working for him. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 6:01:47 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: hmm. i have barlow passes on my sam. i am not sure they make me a whole lot faster. i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better. i replaced some marathons as well. i think it's like running in hiking boots and then putting sneakers on. i may not be way faster in sneakers than i am in boots, but it sure is more comfortable to run. (just wanted to say this in case someone came across this thread and was somehow dissuaded from trying some new tires, the barlow passes are the single biggest improvement i have made to my bike since i actually bought a riv that fits) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help
I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 chuck. I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their group. I don't think they knew how to use it. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on. I do not understand racing kit for practical cycling. Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I picked up a pair of Barlow Pass, regular weight tires last weekend and mounted them on my Atlantis. They are mounted on an 36h XT Mavic A719 rear and a 36h dyno Velocity Synergy front and gave them a test on a 25 miler this morning. They definitely feel lively and plush, like walking barefoot on a nice rug. Based on my experience with the Stampede Pass (also regular weight) on my Romulus, I expected them to be significantly faster than the Marathon Supremes that they replaced, but I was disappointed in this regard. Certainly not enough of an improvement in either comfort or speed to give up the flat resistance afforded by the Supremes, especially on a commuter. The Supreme's went back on tonight. Am I missing something? I have been thrilled with the Stampede Pass on the Rom, and I now consider them non-negotiable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Which Riv to Rando?
All, I really appreciate your thoughtful responses. I am moving back towards using the Romulus. I put a fine 50 miles on it on Sunday at the pace I'd like to ride for the first 200K brevet and couldn't think of a complaint. Thoughts and worries about how it was working pretty much just disappeared from my mind and I just enjoyed the ride. I'm going to put the Mark's rack on it and my Berthoud bag and see how it does on another 50+ ride before the events just to work out any kinks with the bag and make sure I'm comfortable with the handling. Otherwise, I feel like I've got the right tool for the job. On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 9:32:53 AM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next month. I'd been planning on riding my Romulus which is set up with the original factory wheels and the extraordinary Compass Stampede Pass tires and fenders. My thoght was to add the Mark's rack to the Romulus and be ready to go with battery lighting, but I'm sitting here in my office staring at my mighty Atlantis with its dyno, Luxos headlight with USB charging, brake lights, and luggage and wondering whether it wouldn't be the better choice, especially if I replaced the Marathon Supreme's with Barlow Pass tires for the Brevets. First world problems, I know. I'm confident the Atlantis is the more comfortable bike of the two, but the Rom is faster. Most of the folks here in Utah ride brevets on racing style bikes, usually without fenders, and I'm apprehensive about not being able to keep up with anyone and having to ride alone. Thoughts on the Atlantis with the Barlow Pass would be appreciated. DG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Which Riv to Rando?
I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next month. I'd been planning on riding my Romulus which is set up with the original factory wheels and the extraordinary Compass Stampede Pass tires and fenders. My thoght was to add the Mark's rack to the Romulus and be ready to go with battery lighting, but I'm sitting here in my office staring at my mighty Atlantis with its dyno, Luxos headlight with USB charging, brake lights, and luggage and wondering whether it wouldn't be the better choice, especially if I replaced the Marathon Supreme's with Barlow Pass tires for the Brevets. First world problems, I know. I'm confident the Atlantis is the more comfortable bike of the two, but the Rom is faster. Most of the folks here in Utah ride brevets on racing style bikes, usually without fenders, and I'm apprehensive about not being able to keep up with anyone and having to ride alone. Thoughts on the Atlantis with the Barlow Pass would be appreciated. DG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Which Riv to Rando?
The comfort thing is almost an intangible. Both have the B17 saddles and noodle bars, but the Rom bars are 2cm wider. I suspect the wider tires on the Atlantis are the main factor, although that may be less of an issue now that the Rom has the Stampede Pass tires. I tend to be more casual when riding the Atlantis while I ride the Rom hard. Something about the Atlantis just says, relax, have a good time, you'll get there when I do and that's soon enough. On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: Why is the Atlantis more comfortable than the Rom? Can't the Rom be as comfortable? I've got a Bomba w/ racks for camping, a Rom as a gravel-grinder, and then set up the Ram as a rando bike. I think of the Ram/Rom as being a perfect start for a rando bike; the Atlantis would be a fine choice too, if it was your only Riv are the saddles different? What bars? Either should be 'comfortable' On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 11:32:53 AM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote: I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next month. I'd been planning on riding my Romulus which is set up with the original factory wheels and the extraordinary Compass Stampede Pass tires and fenders. My thoght was to add the Mark's rack to the Romulus and be ready to go with battery lighting, but I'm sitting here in my office staring at my mighty Atlantis with its dyno, Luxos headlight with USB charging, brake lights, and luggage and wondering whether it wouldn't be the better choice, especially if I replaced the Marathon Supreme's with Barlow Pass tires for the Brevets. First world problems, I know. I'm confident the Atlantis is the more comfortable bike of the two, but the Rom is faster. Most of the folks here in Utah ride brevets on racing style bikes, usually without fenders, and I'm apprehensive about not being able to keep up with anyone and having to ride alone. Thoughts on the Atlantis with the Barlow Pass would be appreciated. DG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne
I have 38ish Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for commuting mounted on 36 hole XT/Mavic A719 rims. I've also run JB Blues on there and on my 56 Hillborne on the same rim. There's clearly a comfort difference with the bigger rubber and they are a little slower to spin up, but it doesn't seem to matter much when I've got a saddlebag and a front bag. I like the fact that it feels bombproof and my mind is free from worry about potholes and punctures on my commutes, but short of touring and commuting I think they are overkill. My go-fast bike is a Romulus and In November I replaced the Ruffy Tuffys with the regular Stampede Pass and I noticed a dramatic improvement in comfort and performance. One flat at about 400 miles (glass). If the difference between the Mondials and the Barlow Pass is at all similar, and I don't see why it wouldn't be you would be very pleased with the Barlow Pass. Love Compass tires, they are the cat's pajamas. On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 9:28:05 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote: I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on this one. I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels. The sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for commuting, trails and all around town riding. Now I get to leverage my birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels. I wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for summer riding. I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32). I was leaning toward the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme 35's might be a better choice. The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with Schwalbe. Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials! Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a blissful, light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Wire Routing For Rack-Mounted Tail Light
I'm going to be installing a dynohub and I'm thinking about mounting a light on the back of my nitro rack. Ideas on how to route the wire from the hub back to the rack? I hate the idea of lots of electrical tape and zip ties but I can't think of any great options. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Help Choosing Tires - Jack Brown vs. Compass Stampede Pass
I just put the Stampede Pass tires on my Romulus, replacing a set of Ruffy Tuffy's. My expectations were not particularly high but after two rides I am very impressed. I haven't ridden the Jack Brown blues on my Rom but had them on my Sam and then my Atlantis. I thought it was a good commuter tire and would still use it for that purpose (the Atlantis is wearing Marathon Supremes now). I had only one flat in 4500 miles and it was a nail. Similarly, the Ruffy Tuffy's were indeed very tough. The Compass tire, however is simply in another class. Not only was the ride much more plush than the ride on the Ruffy Tuffy, or the JB, the bike felt very lively, and on my two rides it was considerably faster than I typically ride over the same route--nearly 5 minutes faster over a 25 mile course. Two rides are hardly a sufficient data set to proclaim it a faster tire but I'm confident that it is not slower. I'm looking forward to using it for my recreational riding. Highly recommended. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
Buy the LHT off the peg or build up the frame with as many compatible components as possible, then swap the components it over to the Atlantis frame when it comes available. I can't imagine you can't offload the LHT frame with minimal loss. My wife has an LHT and I have an Atlantis. The LHT is plainly capable, but the refinement of the Atlantis is obvious after a few miles. So, another vote for the LHT as a placeholder. On Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:56:17 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded touring bike of the Atlantis in particular. I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested. I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list for the Atlantis. My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices? He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know anything about that model. What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne? Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be damned. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack
Mine is sold. On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:58:52 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: I have one--respond offline if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0aSiM1b7xR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Mark's Rack
I have one--respond offline if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-N4WzbNiNAsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help! Convince me to buy (or not buy) this Atlantis!
Get it. I have a 58 Atlantis. My wife has a 56 LHT. My PBH is 87 and I'm equally comfortable, fit wise, on either bike. I don't think you can lose for 1K. D.G. On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:29:27 PM UTC-6, The Cripler wrote: Ok. So here is the situation. I have been looking for an Atlantis for a while. Well I guess looking isn't the right word. Perhaps dreaming is a more appropriate descriptor. To be honest, I haven't really thought that an Atlantis was going to be in my price range at the current moment. Not without selling off a few of the bike I have, and as my wife has learned, selling off bikes isn't a strong point of mine. Anyway, now out of the blue I have stumbled upon an opportunity to purchase a complete Altantis forwait for it.$1000. Here are the specs: Nitto Technomic Stem Nitto Noodle handlebars with new tape Front rim: Bontrager 36 spokes Rear rim: Velocity Synergy 36 spokes Hubs: Phil Wood hubs Tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus (basically new) Sugino XD crankset Phil Wood BB Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Shimano Cantis (couldnt tell what model) Saddle: Brooks premium leather SKS fenders It seems like an amazing price. I have met the guy, he seems like a totally straight up person. Now here is the dilemma. First, the frame is a 58. I have a Surly LHT (which of course I'd sell...maybe) which is a 56cm. Fits me great. My PBH is 83.84, but lets call it 84. According to the sizing charts I've seen Rivendell would put me on a 56-58cm frame. But, this just seems big to me. I know this has been discussed countless time before, but I am really concerned that a 58 would be too big for me to ride comfortably. I took the bike on a test ride, and with the current stem and setup it definitely felt too large. But, I did have a fistful post showing with my legs extended - albeit barely. The other main issue with the bike is that both of the rear rack braze-ons have broken off. As the seller described it, one of the braze-ons was broken off when he purchased the bike, and the other broke off due to the undue stress on a cross country trip. I looked at the damage and it really doesn't seem to be an issue, or to be that diffucult to fix. I have a frame builder in town who would be able to make short work of it...although I'm not sure what it would cost. Finally, the paint has some wear. There are several chips. It actually looks way better than I thought it would considering the price. But, it does have character. So given what I have laid out...am I an idiot for having second thoughts about jumping on this? If the bike didn't, do you think i would be able to get my money back if I had to sell it? Help a confused brother out here. Thanks All! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/84VGeWtreD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Green 2TT Hillborne in Salt Lake City
Does anyone on this list own the Green 2TT Hillborne with the cream longboards I saw today in downtown Salt Lake City? Those things are as rare as hen's teeth in these parts. If the owner is on this list, I was going the other way on my Atlantis and I waved. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/js5DQDgf9R0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis
I ordered a sandwich from Jimmy John's this afternoon which was delivered in the typical prompt fashion by a heavily tatted and generously bearded bicycle courier. The courier saw my Atlantis, parked in my office, and became so distracted after ogling the various details that he walked out the door without handing over my lunch. He sheepishly returned minutes later, bid me* bon appetit*, and asked a few more questions about how to twine and shellac handlebar tape. I find the courier crowd generally hard to impress when it comes to bicycles, and briefly imagined myself to be hip. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LnFyafR6qWwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Green 2TT Hillborne in Salt Lake City
I think Brian sold his Ram. I'm sure I saw the 2TT Hillborne in Mark's shop last month waiting to be built. Mark sold me my Hillborne (the original green 1TT, no longer mine), I'm riding a used-Rom that he connected me to and he built my Atlantis. My wife's LHT also originates form there. Great shop, and as you say we are lucky to have him in town. I'll look into the Edible Wasatch. D.G. On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:50:07 PM UTC-6, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: Not me but there are quite a few Rivs around SLC. I see a couple on Rams riding through my neighborhood quite often (on the bike lane to the UofU), the last time I rode the Cycle SL Century there were about a half dozen others, and there is a Brian (?) in PC who rides a Ram and posts here often. Mark at Saturday Cycles sold me the most comfortable bike I ever swung a leg over. I imagine that Hillborne came from his shop. We are lucky to have him in town. I'll be riding my blue Boo on the Edible Wasatch ride Saturday so say hello if you're there too. glen On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:57:43 AM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: Does anyone on this list own the Green 2TT Hillborne with the cream longboards I saw today in downtown Salt Lake City? Those things are as rare as hen's teeth in these parts. If the owner is on this list, I was going the other way on my Atlantis and I waved. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LEBuGlHa-agJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus
Ordered the Mark's Rack. Thank you everyone for your input. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JwLn8X33QXsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front Rack Bag on Romulus
All, I'm doing my first Brevet in 12 days on my Romulus. I have a Berthoud bag mounted on my Atlantis with a front rack and a decaleur and I am considering mounting the bag on a Mark's Rack on my Rom for this event. I think the front bag effects handling on the Atlantis, but not in a dramatic way, and I am wondering if anyone has tried one on the Rom with the skinnier Ruffy Tuffy's. Part of my concern may come from reading too much BQ. Very powerful koolaid there on needing low trail to make it work, but I seem to see plenty of front bags on Rambouillets and A. Homer Hilsen, so a few words of reassurance would be appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3NIeOb8ZZMcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 32s on a Romulus
Think of the Supreme 32s on my Rom, at least for summer when I let the Romulus run naked. I run the 40s on my Atlantis and love them. Anyone using the 32s? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ChFcwYGafPcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?
Leslie, show me a Hunqa with some kind of Nitto or Nigel Smith device for securing a 4 piece rod and I will likely cash in my kid's college fund. Saddlesack large in the back for the waders and boots, basket in front for the vest and you are definitely in business. Oh, and it would have to be Winston green. D.G. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:06:29 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: A fly rod. Every time I see a 2TT bike, I want to slip a fly rod in its tube in there. (Catch-n-release, since you're a vegetarian.) (Well, I catch-n-release too, and am not.) On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:59:37 PM UTC-4, Kayakguy wrote: Well I did talk to Rivendell and the response was it is definately for function in that Grant felt the bikes need to be a bit stiffer. I don't know, it's growing on me. Being a vegetarian I am not sure I could carry a salami there, but maybe I could get by with a cucumber or Zuchinni! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yy8wDtQQqwkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Ride
Thanks! Its a great pair of classic bikes that pretty much covers all my bases. The Atlantis spoils me all week with plush comfort, and then the Romulus comes along like a refreshing zephyr on the weekend and graces me with speed and agility. D.G. On Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:16:30 PM UTC-6, rcnute wrote: And Atlantis! http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7122276037/in/photostream/ Ryan On May 6, 7:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, that link didn't work, but you sure have a good looking Rom: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7004449128/in/photostream On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Nice ride today on my Romulus at Antelope Island State Park, Utah. My favorite spring ride. Saw lots of bison and a mule deer, but the pronghorn in the grainy photo was my favorite and was close enough to snap a photo with my phone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629618337572/with/ 7004449494/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pWGxAxB9FrgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Y-d7eTKYCCwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sunday Ride
On the Romulus? Its a Carradice Bagman. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/saddlebag_support.asp D.G. On Monday, May 7, 2012 12:55:26 AM UTC-6, Duplomacette wrote: What is that rack? On May 7, 12:16 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: And Atlantis! http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7122276037/in/photostream/ Ryan On May 6, 7:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, that link didn't work, but you sure have a good looking Rom: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7004449128/in/photostream On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Nice ride today on my Romulus at Antelope Island State Park, Utah. My favorite spring ride. Saw lots of bison and a mule deer, but the pronghorn in the grainy photo was my favorite and was close enough to snap a photo with my phone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629618337572/with/ 7004449494/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pWGxAxB9FrgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” On Monday, May 7, 2012 12:55:26 AM UTC-6, Duplomacette wrote: What is that rack? On May 7, 12:16 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: And Atlantis! http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7122276037/in/photostream/ Ryan On May 6, 7:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, that link didn't work, but you sure have a good looking Rom: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/7004449128/in/photostream On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Nice ride today on my Romulus at Antelope Island State Park, Utah. My favorite spring ride. Saw lots of bison and a mule deer, but the pronghorn in the grainy photo was my favorite and was close enough to snap a photo with my phone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629618337572/with/ 7004449494/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pWGxAxB9FrgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ogp57p1XdL4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sunday Ride
Nice ride today on my Romulus at Antelope Island State Park, Utah. My favorite spring ride. Saw lots of bison and a mule deer, but the pronghorn in the grainy photo was my favorite and was close enough to snap a photo with my phone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629618337572/with/7004449494/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pWGxAxB9FrgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee Front Rack With Removable Pannier Supports
Earl, I'm assuming you're referring to the Tara or Nova and I must admit that this approach is growing on me (at considerably less than the Campee) as I already have the Mini-Front. I assume you mounted the Tubus to the forks with clamps? I haven't read the BQ article you reference, but I'm not sure I follow the point about attaching a rack to the drop outs and stiffening the fork in an undesirable way. The Tubus attacks to the drop outs. Clarify? DG. On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:41:40 AM UTC-6, Earl Grey wrote: I considered the Campee front rack, but then went with a Nitto M-12 and a completely separate stainless Tubus low-rider instead. The low rider can be added and removed probably as easily as the pannier supports on the campee. I don't know the weight comparison, for the full set up, but run only the mini rack 95% of the time. What made me go this route are reports I have read (in BQ and on the net) that front racks that attach to the drop-outs may stiffen the fork and negatively impact the ride quality. Not my own bike, but this photo inspired my setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ah_blake/6592931659/in/photostream/ Gernot On May 2, 9:58 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone have experience with these racks? I like the idea of being able to take the pannier supports off when I don't need them and just support by Berthoud bag, but wonder if its stable once the panniers are mounted. Seems like it might flex, a lot. Rube Goldberg machine or elegant solution? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_2... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WVfZDUNx76QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new A Homer Hilsen feels perfect!
Love that blue! Was it custom? D.G. On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:49:05 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote: Sunday, I picked up a new black, Rivet Pearl saddle, which really completes my dream brevet bike. It has been comfortable from the very first minute I installed the saddle and my bike now feels like home. I originally had a Brooks Swift saddle on it, but I couldn't get it to feel right. Perhaps it's because I am slightly more upright than my other bikes, and I am setting my seat far back because that feels most comfortable, since I am able to get the weight off my hands. I got a Nitto lugged seatpost because it has extra setback. Brooks saddles don't have long rails, and for the Swift, I pushed it as far back as it would go, but maybe that wasn't enough. Also the seat is not as wide as the Rivet Pearl, so as more weight goes backwards, I think the extra width helps in the comfort. In all fairness, maybe a B17 would have been good too, but perhaps the shorter length of the Brooks rails could have been an issue. Of course, the owner of Rivet Saddles is a local rider who I have finished some adventures with, so I'm happy to be an early adopter, especially when their product is working so well for me. I'll keep training and am looking forward to my first brevet on the bike in June! Toshi http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7ScmGLPvBjcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nitto Campee Front Rack With Removable Pannier Supports
Anyone have experience with these racks? I like the idea of being able to take the pannier supports off when I don't need them and just support by Berthoud bag, but wonder if its stable once the panniers are mounted. Seems like it might flex, a lot. Rube Goldberg machine or elegant solution? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=2290 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JyCRWyGhvAIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Atlantis
I've been commuting on my new 58 Atlantis for several weeks. Built it up entirely with parts from my 56 Hillborne. With Marathon Supremes at 60/50 psi the ride is buddah. One little bit I'm particularly fond of is the clean bell attachment offered by VO stem spacer bell mount. The Crane bell is elegant, but the clamp mount, not so much. I also installed one on my wife's LHT and everyone notices it. Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629554834316/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/urHRq0DNt5IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Atlantis
The tires are 622 X 42 / 700 X 40. Head on they look slightly larger than the 37 Contacts on my wife's LHT. The spacer bell-mounts are $5.00 a piece. Surprised Riv doesn't sell something similar. Maybe a country of origin issue. D.G. On Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:54:26 PM UTC-6, Minh wrote: What's your label on the marathon supremes? are they the 700x42 ones from Riv that measure out at ~38mm? I'm thinking of upgrading from my marathon plus tires on my hillborne, but those are 700x37--which measure out pretty close to size. i love the integrated bell mount on the stem. I just got an order of small parts from VO yesterday and i totally missed this item when i was putting together my order! I would've gotten 1-2 for the parts box! Grr!!! On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:49:26 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote: I've been commuting on my new 58 Atlantis for several weeks. Built it up entirely with parts from my 56 Hillborne. With Marathon Supremes at 60/50 psi the ride is buddah. One little bit I'm particularly fond of is the clean bell attachment offered by VO stem spacer bell mount. The Crane bell is elegant, but the clamp mount, not so much. I also installed one on my wife's LHT and everyone notices it. Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629554834316/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/smXAGORyunoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front Rack for Touring With Atlantis
My Atlantis is built up and riding (gratuitous plug for Saturday Cycles in SLC). An awesome dreadnaught of a bicycle. I'm running a Nitto Mini-Front with a Berthoud bag and decaleur on the front. I'm planning a tour and wondering what y'all use for a front touring rack. I'm thinking of pulling the Mini off and going with the Nitto Big Front. Seems the Berthoud bag would rest on it in fine, especially with the decaleur, and then I could hang the front panniers on as well. But,...wondering if there is some other option where I could keep the Mini-Front and use some kind of clamp on low-rider (Tubus? Bruce Gordon?). Is there a rack that would actually use the fork braze ons other than the Nitto? Suggestions with illustrative photos appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rl8X20oPUZ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
Joe, Good to know. No plans to get one right now, but if I'm relieved to learn that if I am separated from the Rom by some misfortune or *force majeure *that there is a worthy replacement. D.G. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:38:04 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt practically identical. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires. This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front rack and large rear. I have done two centuries on it. I also have a Romulus. The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley). Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires. My experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional material. Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE. The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true. I just wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think you'll find it very similar to what you already have. D.G. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KJqPM4kcCtYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires. This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front rack and large rear. I have done two centuries on it. I also have a Romulus. The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley). Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires. My experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional material. Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE. The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true. I just wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think you'll find it very similar to what you already have. D.G. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0UuZbpD70iMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
VW Eurovan Camper if you can find one. D.G. On Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:02:42 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6HpzITIa4coJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's the verdict on the Foss inner tubes?
I'm interested in this too as I'd like to run the Grand Bois tires but have to deal with lots of goat heads. Does it really matter if it can stay inflated with a nail through it if its just going to go flat when the offending object comes out? D.G. On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:28:34 AM UTC-6, Forrest wrote: What's the verdict on the Foss inner tubes? And do you really have to use their special rim tape, or will these tubes work with standard kinds of rim tape just as well? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5VzNcZXm_KYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rode My First Rando Event Today
Can I get some details on that map case you are using? I'm looking at an event next month and am thinking I'll need something similar. D.G. On Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:38:28 PM UTC-6, Smitty wrote: Thanks for all the tips everyone gave in my previous post asking for Randonneuring advice. I put much of it to use today and had a successful ride. The forecast called for 100% chance of rain showers. We got a few minor sprinkles, lots of clouds and a decent amount of sunshine. I came prepared for 100k of riding in a downpour. Instead I should have wore sunscreen. No bonk or nutrition/cramp issues... I believe largely thanks to tips from the list. My goal was to finish in 6 hours (a little over 10mph average) and I got my card signed at 5:55. Perhaps I could have pushed myself and gotten a slightly better time but that would have eaten into my breaks, conversations, and scenery gazing. I don't really feel the need to jump right into the longer brevets but it's likely I'll be back for more 100k rides. My control card proved it happened, but it's on it's way to France. These pics will have to suffice.https://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/OregonRandonneursSnoozevillePopularie100k?authuser=0feat=directlink cheers, Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FMzNyAX1xHYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
Kelly, looks very close to my planned setup. Nice looking bike! D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pKwweLmZkfoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
I guess both color and size,...but the consensus seems to be that the longboards will work and Im planning on running with the silvers. Other choice are the Planet Bike Cascadias I have on my Sam, but I think I'll keep them there as I re-build that bike. I'm going to be commuting and touring on the Atlantis. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics
[RBW] My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ug03NIY6x5gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike lust.
Ordered my new Atlantis several weeks ago. Getting excited now! D.G. On Monday, March 12, 2012 1:48:32 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88057131@N00/5956828630/sizes/l/in/faves-42027576@N00/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2WkrDoCHlgQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: recent Atlantis changes
My wife's new LHT has mounts on the fork crown, but on the side of the crown. We were wondering what they were for. I thought I saw photos of some of the Hunqapillars with these mounts, as well, but have yet to see a rack mounted in that fashion. D.G. On Feb 24, 9:45 am, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote: I am the Proud owner of one of these. I wanted to chime in and say that these can fit 60mm Big Apples with No fenders. It is tight but works superbly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/6218031752/in/photostream According to Keven the Fork crown threads are for mounting a rear rack on the front of the bike easily. Have not tried it yet. Dustin G Walnut Creek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drive-Train Chirp
Lubed the pulleys and the pivots. Chirp is gone. Thanks! D.G. On Feb 12, 10:20 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Will address the pulley wheels today and report back! D.G. On Feb 12, 2:31 am, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I'm going with the pulley wheels. They have to rotate for a brief moment under a lateral load before the chain moves to the selected cog. Wear and/or lack of lube can create the situation for thatchirp. On a group ride last summer a rider had an intermittent suchchirpand disagreed on the pulley wheel, insisting it was deep trouble in his bottom shell. I pulled alongside him on his right and with his permission,squirted his pulley wheels with my water bottle quenching the chirps for the last six or eight miles. ANDY Pittsburgh On Feb 11, 2:32 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loudchirp(like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loudchirp(like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . Nochirpon the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drive-Train Chirp
Will address the pulley wheels today and report back! D.G. On Feb 12, 2:31 am, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I'm going with the pulley wheels. They have to rotate for a brief moment under a lateral load before the chain moves to the selected cog. Wear and/or lack of lube can create the situation for that chirp. On a group ride last summer a rider had an intermittent such chirp and disagreed on the pulley wheel, insisting it was deep trouble in his bottom shell. I pulled alongside him on his right and with his permission,squirted his pulley wheels with my water bottle quenching the chirps for the last six or eight miles. ANDY Pittsburgh On Feb 11, 2:32 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Drive-Train Chirp
Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
The Jack Brown blues on my Sam have about 2800 miles on them with one puncture--a finishing nail. Zero punctures from goat heads (which are numerous around here), glass, radial tire debris, etc. The JB Blue would be my first choice for a commuting tire. On Jan 30, 3:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of the P word, I've got a pair of used but still good (but see below) TGs 32s that I want to get rid of; cash -- make offer; trades: reading stuff; rear blinkies; front blinkies or small AAA (note: triple A and not AA) headlights; tubes for 622X60 mm tires (presta); ditto for 622X35 (28s fit fine); blah blah blah. ** One PTG has a slight casing defect that has been booted: the spot is about 5mm square. The present, fabric boot does not quite prevent a small bulge, but a stiffer or thicker boot would do that. OTOH, the deal includes 1 new, folding Michelin Axial Sport that looks very similar to the Paselas in tread and sidewall and, again, is new and is folding. Also can toss in 2 well used Spec Turbo 559X23 mms for your 56 cm or smaller Atlantis. (Just kidding.) Patrick Moore, who just ordered a pair of 622X35 Kojaks for his Fargo in ABQ, NM. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I can't perceive any difference between the TGs and non-TGs. They feel the same to me, so the Kevlar bead and potential extra protection win out! On Jan 30, 11:28 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's odd; I found the 32 mm P TGs that came on my Herse rather doggy compared to the non-TGs. But I found Schwalbe Kojaks (559X1.35) to be far more puncture resistant than the regular P's (559X1.25) and even better rolling. Am trying to find a pair of the 622X35 mm Kojaks for the Fargo, now. Of course, $55 versus $20 ... On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I love Pasela TGs for they come in on the strength/ride/price calculus. Can't be beat for that IMHO. Bt, they're definitely not the most puncture resistant tire out there. I get about two punctures/ month with them, but I love the feel of them and put up with it. Recreational riding, NOT commuting. They're really fast for a 35mm tire. They have delicate side walls that start falling apart before the tread, but that's what makes them zippy (or so I tell myself). And $20 a piece is hard to argue with. Can't have it all. I'm Collaborating with Doug P The King of the Supremes and will be trying out some Marathon Supremes to see how they work for in a little! That said, no such thing as a puncture proof tire. You gotta' build 15 min or so into your schedule for contingencies... On Jan 30, 9:34 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's like this. I used to commute on an old (steel) MTB with SMPs to avoid having to change flats to/from work. When I got my Sam Hillborne this summer I treated myself to a set of Marathon Supremes. Riding home in the rain today I got a Puncture!!! Not a pinch flat, not a bad valve stem, a puncture. Unacceptable! What if I had been late for work? Couldn't find the culprit so I washed and dried the tire in my kids' bathtub (never done that before, seems like a good idea though) and ended up mounting an almost new Pasela TG I had in the closet. So, did I just get unlucky or are the Supremes not good enough for the roads around here? Are Paselas any better or do I need to go back to SMPs? Vital stats - puncture was in the rear tire (where else?) with about 2000 km on it, 80 psi. I know some people are willing to accept the occasional flat if the tires offers exceptional comfort or speed or whatever. That's fine for them, I just want to get to work and home again without getting my hand dirty. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html aa.jpeg 24KViewDownload
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? On Jan 26, 11:14 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: +1 That 36 is a great gear. Makes me more inclined to ride instead of drive. On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, dougP wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne 56cm question
I believe you can order the Waterford version without the second top tube, but the price goes up. I have one of the first run green Sams in a 56 and I totally agree with you on the double top tube. You will find plenty of folks in this forum who are thrilled with their 2TT bikes and agree with the premise for making them that way. I, however, find my single TT more than adequate for doing all of the things you describe and prefer the aesthetics of the single TT. I've done everything but a loaded tour with it, and I think it could handle that as well. I will say that if I was looking at $1500 to get the Waterford Sam I'd save another $500 to get either an Atlantis or AHH as you're 75% of the way to a premium frame. Alternatively, you could look for a used Sam with the single TT as they occasionally come up on the forum. D.G. On Jan 19, 1:13 pm, Mike Goldsworthy mgoldswor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all - My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding a road bike. I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't heard back. So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Definitely will be laundry facilities in Glenallen and Cantwell. Wouldn't be surpassed if there were others along the way. I don't know if you have time to extend your trip, but a midnight sun ride on the Denali National Park road from the park entrance to Wonder Lake would be a fantastic end to your trip. Have a great trip. On Jan 12, 10:43 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well this will be the first one I paid for.. Self contained.. Lots of things like ragrbri and such. Denali Adventurehttp://www.adventurecycling.org/tours/tourdetail.cfm?t=SC12id=301p=1 The other two tours this year will be on my own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
I've been using Sawyer drip purifiers for two years. Fill the top bag, let gravity do the work. On Jan 13, 11:17 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: What do you use for water purification. Generally I just filter with t shirt and boil. I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an area I'm completely clueless. Thankfully I haven't been isolated badly enough to have to do that often... though it did happen twice last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights
Where will you be touring? I lived up there for 13 years and I am envious. One item I didn't see was a mosquito headnet. Do not forget it. I've seen otherwise sane people lose their minds due to the bugs. I'd also make sure that some of your clothing is bug proof (rain pants and jackets work). New Buzz Off pants, shirts and bandanas, won't keep you completely safe but they do help. I'd even consider Buzz Off socks. The little bastards seem to love ankle blood. Obviously you need a headlamp but two might be overkill. I don't know if I ever used one in July. Also, if you are on the road system virtually every spot on the map with a gas station has a laundromat. Many Alaskans still live off the grid and need a place to wash clothes. I seem to remember a place in Soldotna where you could rent a hot tub and soak while you did your laundry. Bears are an issue. Unless you know you will be staying at campgrounds with food lockers you need a bear-proof food container. I'd also consider bear spray. Lastly, I know its a heresy but I'm a fan of Starbucks Via coffee for backcountry trips. Virtually weightless and surpassingly palatable. Also, Alaskans love coffee--If you get the shakes there are a number of espresso shacks, even in fairly remote places. I can't wait to hear about your plans and I'm a resource if you have questions. D.G. On Jan 12, 2:15 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: First off this is not about what I consider best for you. Only how I do it. I can assure you I'm in no way attempting to be light. I like to take what I want / need to be comfortable. I have taken into consideration hills and my abilities. The weight is in a range of what I've used in the past and passes the test of my capabilities. So hopefully you understand it's not an argument or even a considered better than other ways of doing it just a way to do it. Ok enough disclaimer .. just realized I could write another page on trying not to offend.. but then what fun would that be. Ok so in July I'm doing a 2 week (14 days) self contained tour in Alaska. At this point there are some unknowns. Such as if there will be a place to do laundry. To that end I'm test packing as though there will be no laundry available. This list avails me the ability to travel for two weeks without need of washing clothes. It also covers temperatures from the high 40's to mid 70's. Packing List Clothing 5 Pair of Riding Pants (Convertible) (3 Days each) 7 Pair of Wool Underwear (2 Days each) 7 Shirts Long Sleeve (2 Days each) 1 Pair Wool Underwear Long Johns - 2 Base Layer Tops 7 Pair of Wool Socks (2 Days each) 1 Rain Gear 1 Sweater 2 Camp Towels 1 Swim suit 1 Balaclava 1 Ear cover 1 Pair Gloves extra pair of shoes Electronics Nikon D90 with 2 lenses Iphone iPad with camera card adapter extension cord 2 LED head lamps for campsite. Charging devices Cooking French Press 2 lbs of coffee Boiling Stove Origami Dishes Thermos 10 packs of instant oat meal 10 packs of instant things like mashed potatoes Knife Spoon Fork 1 Gallon folding Water Container Campsite Sleeping Bag Sleeping Pad Extra piece of foam Solar Shower Tent extra stakes Hammer Bike Tools and Parts Brake Cables Shifter Cables Black Tape Chain links Master Link Spokes Spoke Tool Chain Whip Air Pressure Gauge 3 Tubes Patch Kit Boot Kit Folding Tire Chain Lube Brooks Multitool Pouch After packing the following weights came about. Left Rear - Clothing - 15.00 Lbs Right Rear - Sleeping bag pad- cold weather gear 16 .00 Lbs Seat Bag Large Saddlesack tools tubes camera 18.00 lbs Left front - Stove food dishes etc 10.00 lbs Right Front - Electronics / rain gear 11.00 lbs Front Rack / Basket Tent thermos 12.00 lbs Total 82 lb. I had to leave 1/2 of one of the front panniers open for shared food and have added 5 lbs to that pannier ... If we have a laundry day then clothes could be cut in 1/2 Some big weight items... Camera - with zoom lens comes in at 5.5 lbs Thermos- Stanley Steel - comes in at 3.0 lbs I was going to migrate another 6 lbs of stuff to the front panniers .. may just carry my camera lens up there and move soft goods to saddle bag as well as tools. The weight limit on the front low rider rack is 33 lbs so I don't plan on pushing that number. Anyway I thought it was interesting how fast weight adds up.. yes if I wanted to safe weight I could save a lb by using plastic water bottles instead of insulated steel. Save another 4.5 lbs by taking a point and shoot camera, and another by leaving the thermos at home.. might do that anyway... between the french press
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
I don't think I'd want to change the brake just to get .2mm of additional tire under a fender. This bike already rides nicely. What I would want to do is squeeze every bit of comfort possible out of it for long rides without affecting its performance and generally sporty nature as I bought this precisely because I found my Sam sluggish for unladen or lightly-laden duty. I have no desire to turn the Rom into a Sam and even if I were to hang the Sam's parts on an A.H.H. I would build it up with an eye towards comfort and carrying saddle bags, etc. If I'm limited to a very smooth supple 28 tire on the Rom for sportier riding that's going to be just fine. On Jan 6, 10:27 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, a classic road bike has shorter chainstays and lower bars (circa the '80s) than a Ram/Rom/AHH. The latter to me is more of a sport tourer, which would be a classic road bike stretched a bit, with a higher headtube. In my mind, the full-on touring line is drawn at beefier frame tubes and cantilever brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
Hard to argue with, I agree. I'm going to ride over to my LBS this afternoon--they've got a Rom with fenders and some GB Cypress tires mounted on wheels and we'll take a look at it. D.G. On Jan 6, 1:40 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I don't think I'd want to change the brake just to get .2mm of additional tire under a fender. This bike already rides nicely. What I would want to do is squeeze every bit of comfort possible out of it for long rides without affecting its performance and generally sporty nature as I bought this precisely because I found my Sam sluggish for unladen or lightly-laden duty. I have no desire to turn the Rom into a Sam and even if I were to hang the Sam's parts on an A.H.H. I would build it up with an eye towards comfort and carrying saddle bags, etc. If I'm limited to a very smooth supple 28 tire on the Rom for sportier riding that's going to be just fine. Darin, 1. You can get the cypres under there, no problem. no change in brakes: 2. As Manny would say: Pictures prove it:http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/tags/romulus/ -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
What about the Grand Bois Cerf 28s? This is my go-fast bike but I'm thinking of doing my first 200k brevet this spring and think fenders would be a good idea. Just curious as to what will be the best fender/tire combo. Not looking to turn it into a fat tire tractor as my Sam takes care of that (although I am coming to view it as a place to store the parts that I ultimately will put on an AHH-- sigh). On Jan 4, 9:17 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Not with the stock brakes. Just not gonna happen. I think the flyer is overly optimistic. SKS allow for more wiggle room than metal, maybe. But not much For me, the limitations worked with the design of the bicycle. While the Rom/Ram shines with 35s on mixed terrain rides, it was designed around those middle-reach brakes. It think the bike really shines with 28s. This was when the Atlantis was the Atlantis, and the Saluki was pulling country bike duty, and the Rom/Ram were versatileroad bikes. This was before all bikes did all things. So, I'd say if you want fat tires and fenders, spring for an AHH. Ride the Romulus as the classic road bike it is. On Jan 4, 8:02 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fenders/Tires for Rom
Anyone out there running the SKS P35 fenders on a Rom? Is there room to get a Grand Bois 30 (32 actual) under there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride
I've had a tough time with this aspect of long rides, paleo or not, and tend to get a sweet stomach from gatorade, energy gels, blocks, etc, but on longer rides I bonk if I don't eat, which ruins the ride (or hike or ski, or whatever) and presents a dilemma. I tend to do best eating eggs, sausage and a small serving of potatoes for breakfast and then eating food along the way, be it pizza or a sandwich with fruit, especially apples, and maybe some carrot sticks and cucumbers. I'd probably eat meatloaf and mashed potatoes if my mom were to meet me along the way. I'm going to try grilled cheese sandwiches this winter. The pizza and sandwich are not paleo for sure, but I'm more interested in avoiding the bonk while not getting nauseous, and I don't know how it matters when you're burning 5,000 calories on the ride. I'm obviously not a nutritionist and perhaps there is a precise way to dose yourself with pure paleo food and not bonk but in the make-it-up-as-I-go-along world this is the best I've come up with. I usually do not eat anything on rides shorter than 3 hours which seems to work well for me. My brother-in-law developed the Pro-Bar which is one of the more palatable bars (lots of fat, seeds, etc.) and I keep one in my saddle bag as a back up. I asked him about a digestible energy source for long events and he said he tells cross-country skiers and distance cyclists to take a baked potato in a ziplock with a little olive oil and salt. You could take it a step further and make it a yam or a sweet potato. Put it in a rubbermaid container in your saddle bag. Each potato comes out around 200 calories and slightly less than 50 grams of easily digested carbohydrate. Its gotta taste better than the crap they serve at the aid stations at most century rides and Mark Sisson seems to be generally approving of potatoes as an energy source. The real challenge for me is the day after the long ride. The day of the ride my appetite tends to be suppressed by the activity (especially if its hot) but it comes back with a vengeance the next day which makes diet compliance difficult. I spent today fantasizing about a Margherita pizza for instance and I started salivating just reading the post above about jamon with manchego on baguette. Still working on tweaking the post long ride menu. On Aug 15, 8:29 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Well you have to ask yourself the real question.that is, If you are eating paleo are you exercising paleo? Unless you are riding at a lower pace (similar to the output of a walker) you will need to consume a higher amount of carbohydrate. Fruit and veggies are the natural thing for that. If you are riding 4-12 hours, eat fats, protein, veggies, nuts, fruit just like when you are not riding. This assumes you are trying to burn fat as you ride. Unless you continually 'top off' with carbs you'll soon be out of glucose anyway and will have to burn fat for energy. I think they call it 'the bonk'. I've just come to the conclusion that I don't like riding that long or that hard. If I can't finish my riding in a 5-6 hour day, I'm going to do the sensible thing and take a rest, eat some food and go to sleep until the next day. The best post ride food in my mind would be the same thing I eat normally just a little more of it. For protein, eggs or fish seem to digest better for me than a steak but the fat in the steak satiates better after exercising. I also like the way I feel eating primarily vegetables and meat. During a ride you askI eat fruit or nuts or berries maybe even a little turkey jerky or a teriyaki stick. Most of my riding these days however is two hours at a time or less so I rarely eat when I ride and just drink some water. I've also taken to riding my new SimpleOne and I've changed the way I ride and do more gut busting climbing coupled with easy spinning and coasting and some high velocity spinning for the fast twitch fibers. Kind of a interval type of thing like when I commute to work from light to light. On the few longer rides I've done I slow my pace quite a bit and plod along. On Aug 14, 5:30 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes: I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash. Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours. I have not figured out the Taubesian foods work to keep you going during the ride, or how to handle that feeling of post-ride starvation. What do you eat during the ride, and how do you handle the post-ride meal? I don't think I should be putting Candy Bars in my Candy Bar Bag, but hard boiled eggs and raw broccoli aren't getting me through the long days. Any suggestions? Thanks. I know this post is not really Rivendell related, and the Candy Bar Bag humor is weak. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
So, gave the Sam a few rides after adjusting the headset and it started indexing again, primarily in the dead-ahead position, and resumed scaring the hell out of me twisty curves. So I decided to just replace the headset. Had the shop that built the bike install an IRD Interloc as opposed to the bearing swap discussed above. I ultimately decided this wasn't something I wanted to do again anytime soon and given that a considerable portion of the cost is labor which I don't feel presently competent to do myself I just went ahead and replaced it. Frankly, I'd have sprung for the Chris King if one had been available for immediate install. I now appreciate that bikes are subject to considerable stress in the headset and for me the peace of mind factor is worth the upgrade. Examination of the old headset indeed revealed signs of brinelling. I was surprised that such a small defect in the surface of the race could have such a pronounced effect on handling. Thank you Mark and Steve at Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City for getting it done so I can take my Sam to Durango this week! On Jul 29, 2:08 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 12:59 -0700, René Sterental wrote: Thank you! I found the apparently discountinued Stronglight A9 online in WI and ordered one to give it a try. Unless you found the cartridge bearing headset that was introduced after the roller bearing headset of the same name was distcontinued... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
This bike has been to two shops this month--the first one didn't even consider the headset (it was loose when they returned it) and failed to properly tune the drivetrain while charging me north of $100 for their recommended deluxe tune-up. Not happy. At the second shop where I bought the bike I should have given it a quick test drive and I'm sure the mechanic (not a part-time kid in this instance) would have got the adjustment right, just wish I would have caught it before I took the bike home. This does speak to the need to do it yourself so today I'm out hunting for the wrenches. I have every intention of buying tools and learning how to do most of my own work. Our local bicycle collective offers a free Park Tool class and I'm looking forward to attending. On Jul 25, 9:13 am, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: The OP's issue is exactly why I bought a lot of my own bike tools decades ago. Seems like the LBS's have gotten worse over the years, too, and I notice that many of them now employ part time kids. Can't necessarily fault 'em for that; I realize they don't make a lot of money. But if there are just some things that, if you want them done right, you more or less have to take the bull by the horns yourself. On Jul 25, 12:45 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Too tight. If it only indexed at the straight-ahead position, you'd probably have a bigger problem, but tight all the way through the range of motion is a tight headset. If you have the wrenches, back off the locknut, loosen the headset cup a quarter turn, then hold that baby steady while you tighten the locknut back down. Keep doing this until the steering frees up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset Issue
So, dealt with three shops this a.m. Called the shop where I took the bike the first time and they didn't have the tools for sale but offered to order them. Called a second shop and they said they had the tools but when I got there they didn't have them and when I complained the manager said he meant he had tools for shop use. He offered to tear apart the headset if I left the bike for a week and refused to consider that maybe the race just needed to be loosened a scosche. No thanks. I let my kid climb on their water-bottle cage display before I left to express my irritation. Third shop is in a more exclusive neighborhood and emphasizes high-end brands for the well-heeled who want to look well-heeled, but they are also the Waterford/Gunnar dealer so I had high hopes. An awkward teenager paced around the shop for thirty minutes looking for something to sell me before the manager came in, grabbed a wrench, and adjusted it nicely in about 30 seconds. Still, no wrenches to sell me but I bought a couple of tubes in appreciation. We'll see how this goes. I rode it around the block this afternoon and declared the steering at least subjectively better. Hopefully the adjustment will stick and I'll get many more miles of satisfying use from this headset. I'm ordering the spanners. Aside from what seems to be a satisfactory repair, the best part about parading my leather-saddled, be-fendered, big-tired, taped-and- shellacked handlebars, racks everywhere, Sam into bike shops is watching the jaws hit floor. Its like driving an expedition-ready Range Rover into a Kia dealership. Matt: The graphics on the headset are mostly rubbed out but my original purchase invoice says its a Tange. Seems like a lot of work to address what seems like a design flaw. Wouldn't you just want to replace it? D.G. On Jul 25, 12:12 pm, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Hi Daren - Getting the tools for the job sounds like a step in the right direction. I'd write off that first shop. The second shop, however should have done the test ride themselves before they allowed you to take it home. Doing an adjustment like this yourself is a good start in self reliance. Get a book or read up on the web, or better yet have a real mechanic show you how. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Headset Issue
Just had the headset on my Sam adjusted at the LBS after discovering the upper threaded race was loose. The cable hanger seems to have acted as a lever on the race and worked it loose. The lock nut was still tight. I took it home after adjustment without riding it and discovered the steering was squirrelly. I took the front trunk bag off the rack and things improved some but it still felt dodgy Not the Sam I'm used to. Steering is jumpy in corners and I don't feel comfortable taking my hands off the bar. I've lifted the wheel off the ground to observe whether the wheel falls over easily. It hesitates slightly at the straight ahead position then falls over. When I rotate the steering by hand I can feel it catch in both directions at short intervals. Before I get too excited about this does it sound like its just too tight and needs to be re-adjusted? Is the squirrelly steering a symptom of an overly tight headset? I've read about indexing, but I can't imagine its indexed after only 1500 miles. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Mike, helpful photo. Is that a medium or a large saddle sack? After looking at my setup again its clear Big Rack does ride quite a way to the rear to keep the panniers out of the way. Don't see how the bag will fit on there without flopping over the loop at the front. So, I'll probably get the bag and see how it works and then get a Top Rack if I can't live with the asymmetry of the bag flopped over the front of the rack a la Pondero's setup. The bag is simply too cool not to have and the bike will see far more use with the saddle bag than panniers. On Jul 23, 4:50 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, my 650b AHH is a 56, significantly smaller than your Atlantis. The bag does rest on the front loop of the rack, but sort of molds around it. I guess with my smaller frame it doesn't really look too bad. It is attached at the saddle, and with small bungie cords at the back and rides reasonably stable. It's not ideal, but don't perceive any lost functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saddle Sack Medium w/ Nitto Big Back Rack
Anyone out there with experience resting the Saddle Sack Medium on a Nitto Big Back Rack? I know it can flop on top of the loop at the front end of the rack like in the pics on the website, but I don't care for that look and I'd rather it sit level on the top of the rack and snug against the loop at the front. This will go on a 56 Sam (single top tube, thank you). If you have pics it would be helpful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Gee Whiz UPS
I too wish to feel the pangs of desire as a new Rivendell lumbers to my door. On Jul 20, 4:44 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 15:36 -0700, Scotty wrote: I am probably going to leave it in the box until tomorrow after work since it is still not here and I have to be at work at 3AM. If I start on it tonight I wont stop until its exactly how I want it. That just wont do. I was hoping to get my first ride in today but that definitely wont happen. Oh well. At least the wait is almost over. Building up a bike in a hurry in the dead of night when you are tired is a seriously bad idea. When I brought our first tandem back from JFK, getting home to Beacon NY well after midnight, I simply couldn't wait to unpack the bike and reassemble it. I learned a few weeks later, riding on a bike trail on Martha's Vineyard when one of the pedals started wobbling from side to side, in my desperate hurry to see the bike assembled I had cross-threaded it. What joy! Good thing it was French. The nearest bike shop was able to re-thread that crank arm to English, and I was able to purchase a pedal that worked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watter bottle recommendations?
Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around? I suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not making noise every time you go over a bump. On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the King Kage Iris. I have them on almost all my bikes. They fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well. I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle Festival this past weekend. He made most of a cage in front of me in under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike -- I think that's welded on). I am happy to support a local businessman (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product. On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: King Cage Iris cages. Not as elegant as the Nittos, but still look interesting and have held up well so far (bought earlier this year). They carry KK bottles fine, with no need for twine or leather. The King Iris is the best cage there is for an under-the-downtube upside down mount, as the weight of the bottle cannot pull the cage open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne
Deal breaker. I'm 180-190 and have one of the original 56 cm canti Sams (nome de guerre: Ramble 'Rounder). Wonderful and plush commuter, but on the heavy and sluggish side for lightly laden rides. I don't see how adding another tube can do anything but further deaden the ride. I've really pushed this bicycle as an enthusiast's bike that can do it all; the commute, the lightly loaded tour or overnighter, the charity ride, the century, the sporty ride with friends (provided you are more fit than they are). Most of my cycling friends, who are not ignorant about bicycling or slavishly race-oriented in their tastes, have been skeptical but willing to consider the benefits of an all 'rounder road bike and they appreciate the lean but strong lines of my Sam. I don't think anyone, however, is going to be convinced that the performance of what was heretofore a stout sport-tourer will be improved by a second top tube. If they need a beefier bike they've got plenty of others to consider that don't have the awkward second tube. The Atlantis comes to mind, the LHT, or the Co-Motion Americano or Nor'- Wester. If they want a livelier and sportier bike the second-tube will confirm that the Sam is not for them. The well-heeled may buy up to the A.H.H. (the single-tubed Sam's upscale analogue), but most will go elsewhere and I'm afraid I'd have to agree with that choice. I think Rivendell is putting out a five-legged chair here. What comes next? A rickshaw? A sidecar for the Chesapeake Bay retriever? This will kill the Sam. D.G. On Jun 5, 12:56 pm, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's have the undertube. What does is collective wisdom of this group? BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional tour. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Repair Manual
After a year of subscribing to this group I've decided to address some of my inadequacies head on and do some, if not most of my own maintenance. I'm not necessarily handy, but clever enough, willing to buy the tools, and I figure if I can build a fly rod or tie a classic Atlantic salmon fly (which I can do, and do well), I can adjust a hub. Besides, you all inspire me. Thank you. That said, I do need a good reference manual. I'm interested to see if there's a consensus amongst the tribe as to a solid reference for maintaining my Sam (nom de guerre: Ramble-Rounder). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Amos
Anyone have new details on the Amos/San Marco? Will Rivendell be selling the Soma version or repainting/renaming it for themselves? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub
I know this isn't Riv specific but a cool story about the new bike commuter hub in downtown Salt Lake City. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50342926-76/bike-center-canyon-says.html.csp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
Finished my second century on my Sam, the century leg of the MS 150 in Cache Valley, Utah. Once again, many comments about the Sam including several people who asked me how old it was. One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. I didn't notice any other Rivs on the ride, which was odd considering the number of people participating. This was my first time on the north loop of this event, which winds from Logan, Utah through dairy country and small towns in into Idaho. Anyone looking for a neat charity ride could do a lot worse. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what would make the best..
I posted similar questions to yours a while back as Speed Up My Sam. I had just abandoned my racing bike for a Sam and was struggling with how sluggish it felt when climbing and generally losing 2-3 mph over my average pace. I ultimately just rode the century with my commuting wheels, fenders and racks still attached and finished about a half hour slower than my previous century but with energy to spare and virtually no discomfort. I attribute this to the cushioning of the larger tires and the superior comfort afforded by my rider position on the Sam. I would certainly like to have a set of lighter wheels (32 spokes) and tires for training and events, but for me, when riding anything over 50 miles, the benefits of ultralight wheels and skinny hard tires give way to concerns of comfort, and I don't ride events less than a metric. Certainly, if I was doing triathlons I'd push for something with considerably more zip, but I that's not my scene. I'm also considering an A.H.H., a used Ram or the someday Amos for my sport riding, but still would want them set up with relatively plush tires and durable 32 spoke wheels. I am very interested in the opinions of other Sam owners who have gone with the lighter Rivish wheels and tires. D.G. On Jun 13, 11:39 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys - good suggestion. i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara Supremems. a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :) best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Medium Saddle Sack and Top Rack
Anyone using a medium Saddle Sack with a Top Rack? I'd like to fine tune my commuting setup and I like that bag but I'd want it sitting on a rack. From the looks of the photos it has the leather tab to slide over the upright on the top rack but I wonder if the seat tabs are long enough to reach the seat with it mounted that way. The images on the photos seem to show it just flopped on top of the rack and not really fitted to it. The large obviously works well with the rack but is over kill for my commute. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Charity Ride Atlantis Poll or What Would Fred Do?
I just faced the similar questions with my Sam Hillborne for a century. I'd intended to swap out the Jack Browns for 30cc Grand Bois and remove the fenders and the racks. Ultimately, I just removed the rear rack (a touring rack) and left the rest of the bling on and enjoyed my century ride. This also afforded me an opportunity to evangelize about the benefits of useful bicycles made of steel and equipped with fat tires and fenders. D.G. On May 20, 8:56 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be riding 80 miles in the Real Ale Ride out of Blanco, Texas Saturday and am sitting, staring at my Atlantis wondering whether I should leave it alone and ride in be-fendered, be-basketed curmudgeon mode or remove the accouterments, change the 37c Paselas for 32's and ride in ultra sleek racing mode. What say you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Medium Saddle Sack and Top Rack
So, looking at the photos it looks like the leather tab on the bag slides over the lip at the front of the rack and you secure it to the tabs on the back of the saddle, but not around the seat post, much the way the large bag is displayed on Riv's website. Is it stable without the zip ties? I really don't want to have to zip it to the rack as wouldn't always ride with the big bag. Looks perfect for my commuting setup--as opposed to the trunk bag I have which is too small and the panniers I have which are usually too big. On May 20, 2:32 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, I've been using mine with the Nitto R-14 rack to support it. It really didn't need the extra support, but it was rubbing on the top of the steel fender and marring it so I put the rack. Since the rack's top guide is a bit further back, it pulls the bag back a bit and the leather strap that is meant to tie it to the seat tube is no longer needed (it doesn't reach anyway). I added a couple of zip ties to the bottom of the bag so it wouldn't slide on top of the rack. If you detail my pictures carefully (http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/4456179970/in/set-721576229584...and a couple more before that one) you'll see that since the bag is pulled back by the rack, it's end is slightly lifted. This is just an aesthetic issue as the bottom of the bag is fully supported as soon as you load it. Loosening the saddle straps doesn't really address this as it just means the top comes down a bit more. Depending on the distance between your saddle loops and your rack, you'll need to adjust these straps to keep the top of the bag at its proper height. I carry my laptop, rain gear, clothes, etc. Now that the weather is really nice in the SF Bay Area, I don't really need that much space either, but it's nice for the laptop, some lunch and extra space for a book, fruit, etc. I'll state again that I started using it without the rack and if it wasn't for the rubbing of the leather on the fender, I would have kept using it without the rack. I discovered that I like the feeling of the larger saddlebags on the rear of my legs... :-) René On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone using a medium Saddle Sack with a Top Rack? I'd like to fine tune my commuting setup and I like that bag but I'd want it sitting on a rack. From the looks of the photos it has the leather tab to slide over the upright on the top rack but I wonder if the seat tabs are long enough to reach the seat with it mounted that way. The images on the photos seem to show it just flopped on top of the rack and not really fitted to it. The large obviously works well with the rack but is over kill for my commute. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Medium Saddle Sack and Top Rack
Nice photos, btw. D.G. On May 20, 2:32 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Darin, I've been using mine with the Nitto R-14 rack to support it. It really didn't need the extra support, but it was rubbing on the top of the steel fender and marring it so I put the rack. Since the rack's top guide is a bit further back, it pulls the bag back a bit and the leather strap that is meant to tie it to the seat tube is no longer needed (it doesn't reach anyway). I added a couple of zip ties to the bottom of the bag so it wouldn't slide on top of the rack. If you detail my pictures carefully (http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/4456179970/in/set-721576229584...and a couple more before that one) you'll see that since the bag is pulled back by the rack, it's end is slightly lifted. This is just an aesthetic issue as the bottom of the bag is fully supported as soon as you load it. Loosening the saddle straps doesn't really address this as it just means the top comes down a bit more. Depending on the distance between your saddle loops and your rack, you'll need to adjust these straps to keep the top of the bag at its proper height. I carry my laptop, rain gear, clothes, etc. Now that the weather is really nice in the SF Bay Area, I don't really need that much space either, but it's nice for the laptop, some lunch and extra space for a book, fruit, etc. I'll state again that I started using it without the rack and if it wasn't for the rubbing of the leather on the fender, I would have kept using it without the rack. I discovered that I like the feeling of the larger saddlebags on the rear of my legs... :-) René On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone using a medium Saddle Sack with a Top Rack? I'd like to fine tune my commuting setup and I like that bag but I'd want it sitting on a rack. From the looks of the photos it has the leather tab to slide over the upright on the top rack but I wonder if the seat tabs are long enough to reach the seat with it mounted that way. The images on the photos seem to show it just flopped on top of the rack and not really fitted to it. The large obviously works well with the rack but is over kill for my commute. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Medium Saddle Sack and Top Rack
I agree that your setup is the very definition of utilitarian. Your posts and pictures were helpful. I have a small trunksack now and like how it slides onto the front rack slick as a whistle. It also seem indestructible, and reminds me of Filson duck-hunting coats, the kind you inherit from your grandfather after he wore it for thirty years. The convenience of dropping it onto the rack makes me want something similar for the rear and the large trunksack is just a wee small for my needs, especially early and late season rides when I need extra clothes, but the medium saddlesack seems to be right on the nose. So will try it and if necessary consider the Bagman. I have a nitto big rack on now. I think you could still use the saddle sack with the seat post strap and let the bag just lounge onto the back of the rack. That seems how the pictures show it on the Riv sight anyway. I'm thinking of the top rack because the big rack is BIG, no, its HUGE, and overkill for my commuting and recreational riding situation (can't wait to tour with it, however). Fortunately, once set up it takes three minutes to take it off and put it back on. D.G. On May 20, 5:58 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I put the zip ties more for paranoid security than for stability. I didn't tighten them too much either. I'm pretty sure that it will work perfectly fine without them, and I think the setup's wonderfulness will certainly be enhanced by adding the saddlebag grip and no zip ties as described by Burton. I know I'll be ordering one, as I also don't think I'll keep the bag attachmed permanently. My current caveat is figuring out how the saddlebags will fit with the Nitto Big Rear Rack that doesn't have the section that goes into the leather holder of the bag. Perhaps the saddlegrip + zip ties will be required... I'm on the verge of replacing my Bombadil frame with an Atlantis frame, but will keep the exact same setup for commuting in the winter, and probably stick to either the basket and medium bag or the medium saddlebag for the summer when I don't have to carry any jackets/gloves/etc. If I could have one wish, it would be to be able to get the medium and large shopsacks with a couple of zippered internal pockets. I find the zippered external sleeve on the saddlebag indispensable for train tickets, wallet, company ID, etc. I'd be more than willing to pay a bit extra for that, although I understand Grant's reasons to keep them so simple. No matter what, the combination you see in my pictures is amazingly useful and utilitarian. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
'tis. Nikon is back from the shop. Will try to get some pics this weekend. D.G. On May 17, 7:32 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 17, 1:24 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Is that the green Sam, which you said you would post some good pictures of? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Cycle Salt Lake Century
Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
I rode Nitto Noodle bars and Jack Brown Blues for tires. I'd been planning to put on a faster tire per the suggestions to my Speed Up My Sam post but I didn't get around to it. I have the top of the stem about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch above the saddle height and the bars angled so the ramp down to the brake hoods is almost perfectly level. I can ride in the drops, on the hoods, on the ramp or the top of the bar with equal ease. On May 17, 1:31 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
Go big! My ride was about 8% slower than my last century and 80% more enjoyable. In fact, I enjoyed every minute of it! I wish you the same experience. D.G. On May 17, 2:21 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks - i'm 99% sure i'm leaving my Schwalbe Mara Sups on - so i'll be doing a slower ride probably :) On May 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Darin G. wrote: I rode Nitto Noodle bars and Jack Brown Blues for tires. I'd been planning to put on a faster tire per the suggestions to my Speed Up My Sam post but I didn't get around to it. I have the top of the stem about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch above the saddle height and the bars angled so the ramp down to the brake hoods is almost perfectly level. I can ride in the drops, on the hoods, on the ramp or the top of the bar with equal ease. On May 17, 1:31 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Abiyoyo Inigo Montoya Loch Leven Border Reiver Carnomore On May 5, 12:20 pm, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike 10. Travelino 9. Henri Torres 8. Vagabondo 7. Hugonaut 6. Velocipes 5. Navigador 4. Luis Rotundus 3. F. Murray Abraham 2. Uniped (lugged steel unicycle, made for touring) 1. Retro Grouchier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
I don't get the two top tube thing. I ride the 56 Sam and putting two top tubes on it seems like it would take an elegant design and turn it into a five-legged chair. I understand the strength argument, just can't see why it would be necessary. This bike's already pretty stout. I also wonder why Rivendell would dilute the successful brand associated with the Sam with essentially three different bikes--the original canti version, the side-pull version, and a mutant Samapillar. D.G. On May 4, 9:01 am, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: There will be a double top tube on the Roadeo before Grant is finished. You heard it here first. On 5/4/10 7:47 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Seems like Richard Schwinn and Grant really put their heads together on this. Price wise and features wise right there in between off the rack Gunnars and custom Waterfords. I just took delivery of a Gunnar Sport with custom Waterford threaded fork. Kinda like a Hillborne but no lugs, lighter tubes, I think, medium reach side pulls, and slight shorter wheel base. Richard appears to be quite good at keeping the contract work coming in and hopefully keeping the little company stable during tough economic times. Good luck in that partnership. On May 4, 6:34 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Saw that post also and was initially confused but I was reading it at work where things were kinda hectic. I looked it over again and I guess it makes sense. I like that some Hillbornes will be designed around sidepulls, makes sense if you're only going to be light touring, and keeping it on the road with the occasional dirt excursion. The double TT Hillbornes seem very similar to the Hunqas, I guess the main difference is tire clearance. I'll be curious to see pictures of both bikes when they're available. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
I'm considering either a Gunnar Sport or a Waterford sport tourer. Interested in your build and getting a look at it once you get your build completed. D.G. On May 4, 8:47 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Seems like Richard Schwinn and Grant really put their heads together on this. Price wise and features wise right there in between off the rack Gunnars and custom Waterfords. I just took delivery of a Gunnar Sport with custom Waterford threaded fork. Kinda like a Hillborne but no lugs, lighter tubes, I think, medium reach side pulls, and slight shorter wheel base. Richard appears to be quite good at keeping the contract work coming in and hopefully keeping the little company stable during tough economic times. Good luck in that partnership. On May 4, 6:34 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Saw that post also and was initially confused but I was reading it at work where things were kinda hectic. I looked it over again and I guess it makes sense. I like that some Hillbornes will be designed around sidepulls, makes sense if you're only going to be light touring, and keeping it on the road with the occasional dirt excursion. The double TT Hillbornes seem very similar to the Hunqas, I guess the main difference is tire clearance. I'll be curious to see pictures of both bikes when they're available. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
Okay, many great suggestions here and I appreciate the attention to the topic. I think many of the observations about obsessing less with how long it takes and enjoying the activity are appropriate. I typically don't ride with others. Its usually just me out there listening to the meadowlarks, feeling the wind and carrying on an intense internal conversation with my multiple personalities. Speed on such a journey is irrelevant. When the opportunity to ride with others does come up, however, no one wants to be the heel that makes everyone wait or blows up trying to keep up, especially when you're ostensibly the stronger rider. For now I will swap the tires for the event rides (looking at the Grand Bois 28s) and remove the rear rack. I am also looking into a lighter wheelset, including some that were mentioned in this thread, which will end up on the theoretical zippy bike of the future. I did receive a phone call from my ride companion last night saying that he was completely wasted from our recent sluggish and casual ride and wondering how I could go that far. Smug satisfaction taken. And for the record: I do not presently, and never have, wore parachute pants. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:10 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have a slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including my old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course than I was on road bike. I've never been a racer but I really don't want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the difference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike to take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away. So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires? I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it just can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread and I can fit both the mattress and the pad in the sleeping bag compartment of my pack and use the pad loops to hold my tent (which is usually wet) on the outside of the pack. No one wants to go spend their fun tickets on gear when they have a perfectly suitable mattress and sleeping bag that has served them well, but the stuff is out there. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. D.G. On Apr 26, 6:53 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
This post has me thinking about guitars, fly fishing, and cycling. Long before I bought a Riv I acquired a taste for woody Martin guitars and and favored my Winston traditional trout rod over my Sage artillery pieces. My fly boxes are adorned with modern bead-headed and foam flies (trout bling), but I prefer to tie furry little traditional bugs. 80% of the trout I catch fall for traditional nymphs and dries. In a way, those things opened me up to owning a Rivendell and not the other way around. That said, I wouldn't trade my gore-tex waders for old rubber chest waders. I play a very nice Taylor guitar when I have to plug in or want it to be loud and bright. I will fish my fast action fly rods when the situation demands--i.e. when casting heavy streamers to steelhead or big trout in big water, but just because I can cast 70 feet of shooting head with this gear doesn't mean I love doing it, nor does it bring me more pleasure than a well placed thirty foot cast that drops a size 18 Adams into a slot six inches wide and three feet long. The point, I suppose, is to be objective about new technology and its so called advantages. Sometimes the advantages are real, but often its just hype to get you to buy another version of something you already have or an attempt to push everyone to the extreme edge of their hobby or sport. Do enjoy that new bamboo rod--I'm sure its a lovely reed. What are the specifics of the rod (wt., length) and what reel did you put on it? And noting the other posts--I use a fountain pen. I think gardening counts and I don't know why something as practical as sewing wouldn't count as well. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: I've started sewing more, though I don't suspect that is a much of a riv'ish hobby. Does gardening count? Probably not. -sv === Oh, I think it counts. I think they both count utterly. Any hobby that centers around a more calorie-burning, sustainable, self-sufficient, fun-yet-useful activity fits the Rivendell philosophy as I understand it. Jon ³Oliver Wendell Douglass² Grant, who just yesterday planted cukes, yellow squash, and zucchini in his front flower plot, and now considers himself a right proper organic food-crop family farmer, in sunny Austin ³Green Acres² Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Speed Up My Sam
Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have a slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including my old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course than I was on road bike. I've never been a racer but I really don't want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the difference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike to take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away. So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires? I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it just can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
I lived in Alaska for 13 years. There is no better read than Coming Into the Country. Just thinking about it makes me unbearably homesick. D.G. On Apr 26, 9:36 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I like to read. John McPhee is a favorite. His name and references to his book Coming Into the Country have appeared in the RR on more than one occasion if I remember correctly. There's lots of Rivish stuff I can appreciate like fly fishing, hiking, backpacking, craftwork, etc but my time is limited and I just love cycling so I pretty much stick with that for hobbies. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs. Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what convinced me I was through with the Roubaix. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues. Either go with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s. Those are the nicest rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using. I found them too delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the events you mentioned. If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm from where they are as well. Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a little bit less drag. You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim? I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out. Those plus the Cypres... you'd be set (maybe). Have fun! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have a slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including my old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course than I was on road bike. I've never been a racer but I really don't want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the difference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike to take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away. So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires? I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it just can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
The NeoAir inflated is 72 X 20. Agreed that the down sleeping bag is worthless when wet which is why a waterproof stuff-sack is mandatory. I've backpacked, sea kayaked, biked and river rafted in miserable wet weather in the Rockies and Alaska, and never had a problem. That said you do need to be thoughtful about packing it and keeping it dry and you need a very high degree of confidence in your tent. A down sleeping bag will also last much longer than a comparable synthetic (I put the lifespan of a heavily used synthetic at around 5 years, even if kept in a storage bag). For me the comfort and weight savings are worth it. Others reasonably reach a different conclusion. If you're going to be driven to distraction by the thought of a down bag getting wet go with the synthetic. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:06 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. 4 inches x 9 inches? How wide and long is it when it is inflated? A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates. If you get down wet, it won't work anymore. The first time you ever try to wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet. They take longer than a week to dry out. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
Full spec: Nitto stem, Nitto post, Shimano Bar ends, Sugino 46-36-24, 11 X 32, Deore XT rear, Nitto Mini Front, Nitto Big Rack rear (may replace with a top rack for summer commuting), Shimano cantis. Pic here: http://gallery.me.com/dbgoff#18 D.G. On Apr 26, 10:43 am, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: Wheels are definitely a good place to start. Even Mavic Aksium Wheelsets which run around $250 can give you a lighter / slightly aero wheel. Put some 25mm lightweight tires on them, and only use them on your fast rides. You will likely feel the difference, especially if there is a lot of climbing involved. Can you post the full spec of your bike? Hard to suggest when you have no other info... Cheers, Sean --- On Mon, 4/26/10, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: From: MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:40 PM Well that's a pretty heavy rim tire combo. Remember it is the wheels you have to accelerate, so weight taken off there will yield the most benefit. I'd consider a second set of wheels. If you can afford it White Hubs, Open Pro rims, 32 spokes with some Michelin 25mm tires. That will help you accelerate when you need to stay with the group, and will be zippier going uphill, which is where you are probably loosing the pace. Ride with your current wheels every day and switch to the lighter ones for longer events. Michael On Apr 26, 12:21 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Rims are Mavic A719s on Deore XT hubs. Don't know that I'd lower the bars as the comfort over distance of this setup is incomparable to anything else I've ridden and is what convinced me I was through with the Roubaix. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:17 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues. Either go with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s. Those are the nicest rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using. I found them too delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the events you mentioned. If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm from where they are as well. Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a little bit less drag. You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim? I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out. Those plus the Cypres... you'd be set (maybe). Have fun! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have a slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including my old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course than I was on road bike. I've never been a racer but I really don't want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the difference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike to take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away. So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires? I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it just can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
If the Roadeo had rack mounts I'd consider it, at least for a rear with a trunk bag. I guess I could put a big Arkel handlebar bag on it or something. As is, waiting to see if the Amos comes to be as the Roadeo is some serious cheddar for me right now. D.G. On Apr 26, 10:57 am, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: I would think that over 100 miles, the comfort of a Riv would make up for fewer ounces on the bike. However, I am thinking that Rodeo would be a good option for your future . Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Mon, 4/26/10, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Speed Up My Sam To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:17 PM Don't know if it'll give you ~2mph , but I'd ditch the JB Blues. Either go with Greens, or better yet Grand Bois Cypres 31s. Those are the nicest rolling tires I even ever had the privilege of using. I found them too delicate for day in and day out use, but I think they would shine on the events you mentioned. If it won't compromise comfort over distance, maybe lower your bars 1-2 cm from where they are as well. Speaking of bars, maybe go narrower to get a little bit less drag. You mentioned 36 spoke, but what kind of rim? I'd recommend 28 hole Velocity Aeroheads if you really want to go all out. Those plus the Cypres... you'd be set (maybe). Have fun! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Alright, this will probably sound un-Rivish,...please don't pick my bones over. I'm new to this type of bicycle. I need my commuter/tourer Sam to go faster, if possible. I have a slate of century rides and a 200 km brevet lined up for the summer and I'm being dropped by my riding companions who are significantly less fit and heavier than I am, but are riding zippy road bikes (including my old Roubaix). I'm about 1.5 to 3 mph slower over the same course than I was on road bike. I've never been a racer but I really don't want my centuries to take 7 hours and I don't think I can make up the difference with pure horsepower. I'm planning on a second bike to take on this duty, but that will be at least a year away. So, where would this group look to speed up my Sam? Wheels? Tires? I'm riding 36 spoke wheels with Jack Brown Blues. And if it just can't be done, tell me so and I'll practice smelling the flowers until I can come up with the appropriate tool for the described job. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Amos?
Enough gossip like that and you might force HQ to put out some clarification. I did almost fall over though. On Apr 20, 2:43 pm, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: It's going to be pink. On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote: Any new rumors on the Amos? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne
Working on better pictures--unfortunately Mr. Nikon is in the shop, again, so when he gets back we'll try for some better shots. On Apr 20, 5:38 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Whoa! We are going to need to see: 1) More pictures! 2) Sharp pictures! of that beauty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
