Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
My last gen silver QB has an OLD of 120. The QR skewer that came with the standard Suzue hub works fine for me. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 3 60cm-ish Rivs and several boxes of parts for less than 2K
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Re: [RBW] need club name
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[RBW] 62 Rambouilet on ebay
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[RBW] Bleriot Frames FS
Sorry if there was any confusion. I posted this hastily when I saw it for the benefit of the group. The post appeared on a Google group called Bicycle Lifestyle that Peter White moderates. The original post is here: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bicyclelifestyle/Pgk94osMy7A For those of you who PM'd me, I am not the seller, though my name is Peter and the sellers name is Peter and my post was a bit cryptic so the confusion is understandable. You should contact Peter White directly. Thanks Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bleriot Frames FS
Not mine; Peter White peterjwh...@gmail.com Feb 27 11:22AM -0800 Just remembered we have a couple of new Bleriot frames. 1 is a 53cm, the other is 61cm. $600.00 frame and fork. Plus, I'll mill the head tube and fork crown with the Campagnolo cutters so a headset won't wear out in a few months. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Hello
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[RBW] Has anyone gone from drops to Albas and regretted it?
I think it has everything to do with your use of the bike. For distances I think a drop bar has proven to be pretty good. For a town bike ridden for fun or in traffic I like the upright posture of bars like albas. In an ideal world you'd have a bike or two with each. I had noodles on my Sam for a while. It took me a couples of iterations to realize it, but eventually I leaned that I just didn't use the bike that way, so it has albas now and my QB commuter has similar bars. But I ride those bikes a few miles at a time, sometimes in a suit. I currently have drops on my un-fendered Soma Double Cross that is my exercise bike. Experiment and find what works for you. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Advice/WTB: Dynamo wheel and/or light
I've been commuting with an SP PD8 on my Quickbeam and it has been great. I bought the disc version because I have another disc compatible frame I might switch it over to later. I think the SP is a great choice at the sub-SON price point. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr
Nothing but 35s on my QB. Paselas, Kojaks, currently Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Pete in CT (Still in process of Norris-izing my QB with an S3X) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB
Eric I'm going to put a freewheel on it. The idea of having the pawls in the replaceable part just makes so much sense to me. I think a direct drive with helper gears set up will work perfectly for my commuting and utility needs. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?
As long as you attach it with twine it's Riv approved! Seriously though, I think that this new e-bike wheel retrofit thingy that's been on the inter webs the last few weeks seems ideal. Personally I'd love an ebike if I could afford a Specialized Turbo (and Specialized weren't so evil). Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB
I just bought an S3X for my QB commuter based (almost) entirely on Eric's recent and past endorsements. If it's good enough for his PBPs it's good enough for mine! (Btw., PBP for me stands for Pub-Bar-Pub) After I get the wheel built and New England thaws out enough for some bike commuting I'll report back to the list with another data point. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB
Agreed Jim. Wouldn't it just be easier to see if there were 30 people willing to pre-order an actual SO/QB? I know there's no opportunity for creative expression in that, but it does seem odd to try to satisfy demand for the those bikes with a new bike that will explicitly NOT be those bikes! I know GP uses clone in a pejorative sense but to keep making a bike is not cloning it. Besides, aren't there business side advantages to continuing to sell, though perhaps on a limited, pre order basis, the bike for which you already amortized the tooling and development costs? I have a last gen silver QB and love it. If it were stolen or wrecked I'd seriously consider paying custom-shop money for a new one. I'm not the least bit interested in a NewBeam that has the chunky tube set of my Sam, double top tubes, or wavy gravy curved rear triangle bits. To me that bike would have nothing in common with a QB beyond the dropouts. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: quickbeam/S.O. questions
I have my QB set up with the Riv-supplied double up front and a White Industries DOS freewheel in back. I don't use the flip side of the hub at the moment. It's easy to shift, but I don't shift much as my commute can be done in one gear and that's 99% of my riding on the QB. I hang a pannier briefcase off a Tubus rack out back and the bike handles great. I don't use front cargo options much. I have an older set of SKS/Berthoud plastic fenders on the bike now, but agree with other that a pop-off rear fender mount makes life much easier with the horizontal dropout. The QB/SO is a bike with a very unique and versatile spec - wide tires, canti brakes, lugged steel, horizontal-ish dropouts. I'm not surprised a recent frame on Ebay went for good money - I don't think you can get that combo anywhere else without going custom. -Pete in CT On Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:19:13 PM UTC-4, JL wrote: Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price 56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it might be a little overbuilt for that role. QB owners: How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a nitto front rack with a basket?) I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it has been a while. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
I have a few of these stems, some Dimension branded, some Civia, and they are fantastic for the price. I'd love to see more pop top quills. Pragmatics beats aesthetics for me most of the time. I'm currently riding two bikes with quill stems the wrong length because I'm too lazy to replace the shellacked cork grips on them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] why asymetric?
I'm thinking that a few mm one way or another just doesn't matter. Some will say they notice. Some will say they don't. If you can get the inner ring of your triple to clear then maybe it's all good. Btw, who ever said chain stays are always symmetrical? - Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] SP PV8 Dynohub for the Ram
I think the SPs have been discussed a few times here and/or on the bob list. Lots of short term, generally positive experience, no long term. I've been commuting with one for a year with no issues. Can't comment on the notchy feel as ive never had another dyno hub. Can't feel anything while riding though FWIW. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Child seat
I use a Yepp Mini front seat on my 60 Sam with Alba bars. I was surprised how little room - as in none - I have between the nose of the saddle and the back of the seat. I'm not slim, mind you, but I'm not that fat and I cannot fit between the saddle and seat to straddle the top tube. I had to drop my saddle way down so I can support the bike when we stop. Even given that challenge, I like the front seat for interaction, and it works fine for our short rides around the neighborhood. If you are thinking of more intensive trips it might be a good idea to teat a front seat first to see if you have fit issues. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:08:55 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: Somewhat OT, but a post to the Lifestyles list got only one response. My grandson is now old enough to ride behind his mom, and really loves it, so I am thinking about getting a seat and putting it on my Trek 620. Any advice about models and use would be much appreciated. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Blug 7/22/13
I read about this reflectoring idea on Sheldon's site a while back. Don't recall if it was a Sheldon idea or a Jobst Brandt idea, but it sounds like it meets all the ideal criteria for reflectors - as much surface area as you want, motion, etc. As most rims are bit convex in cross section (or a lot, if you have Dyads or aero rims) you'd get good reflection across a range of angles. And if you use the white / silver DOT tape then the stickers would be virtually invisible on silver rims during the day. If not sticking out is your thing. I've been meaning to do this for a while. Sounds like a quick easy weekend job. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:47:03 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote: I notice Anne's Dad put reflective tape ovals on the rims. I assume this is so oncoming drivers will see them reflect in their headlights? If this works I may do it on my bike. Anyone know if it reflects well this way? BTW, that bike is beautiful. I wonder why they ever stopped making it. Or is the Betty the same? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bending a Silver Hupe
Just buy some tool dip at the hardware store and re dip them. If the colors don't match all the better in the Riv world. And bend them extra wide so they'll fit over the 2 layers of helicopter tape plus two layers of bar tape you'll need to keep your seat stays intact! Pete (Hupe-in' it up) in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Terrible News
via Twitter: *ThePathLessPedaled* @*pathlesspedaled* https://twitter.com/pathlesspedaledhttps://twitter.com/pathlesspedaled/status/354656280192880640 Just found out a reader from Durham was killed in a hit and run. RIP Seth Vidal. http://bit.ly/1bljzbI http://t.co/Eaofzr7YnK http://www.wral.com/bicyclist-killed-in-durham-hit-and-run/12639104/ I do not know if this is the same person who is regular here. I did not know him personally. The PLP video they link to features a nice guy on an Atlantis. (If not, my apologies for causing undue grief.) Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Regarding Seth Vidal
Beautiful tribute Anne. Thanks for the reminder. A nice way for us all to keep Seth in our thoughts. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Do you find you ride slower with Albas than with drops?
Yes, I feel a bit slower vs drops or even flat bars, but I'm much more upright, and comfortable, and having more fun, so who cares. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Crazy New Urban S240
I had been stymied on S24Os thus far but this is a great idea. Thanks for the inspiration! Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albas and Saddle Width
I ride a B-17 Narrow with drop bars and a B-17 regular with Albas. Provides just the right adjustment in width for the different postures in my case. -Pete in CT On Monday, July 1, 2013 5:19:32 PM UTC-4, Larry H wrote: I'm wondering what type (width) of Brooks Saddle people use with Albatross Bars. I've been using a B-67 on my Sam Hillborne. RBW recommends the wider saddles for upright bars. Does anyone use the B-17 with Albas or Bosco bars? I'm not a big fan of the textured leather on the B-67. I would need to switch to a B-17 or B-72 to get non textured leather. The B-72 is a double rail saddle and would need a seat post sandwich or Nitto simple seat post. I also don't like the creaky springs. I don't really need a sprung saddle since I'm only around 145 lbs. Thanks for the feedback. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Albas and Saddle Width
You mock the 135, Patrick, but seriously where else can you find that much old world British craftsmanship concentrated in a single package? I might buy one for the springs-per-dollar ratio alone! Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Albas...steel or aluminum? Please help me decide...
I have the AL Albas on my Sam with no issues, but I'd hardly say I stress them' Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?
Hey Jeremy- Do you have a pic of the Bosco bars on your QB? I moved my Albas to my Sam, and put Noodles on the QB, but now I want to go back to upright on the QB, and I'm not sure if I should get another set of Albas or try the Bosco. Thanks! Pete in CT On Sunday, May 5, 2013 11:47:12 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote: Keven and I talked about this when I rode the Appaloosa and subsequently bought some Bosco Bullmooses for my Quickbeam. Keven reports feeling like he actually has more power on his proto-appaloosa with the upright position versus his earlier drop bar bikes. After putting the Boscos on my Quickbeam (coming from a relatively racy flat bar setup before, which kept my back much more inclined), I can report that I feel absolutely no loss of power going to full-upright, including on long, low-rpm, singlespeed climbs, which you know all about, Patrick. And in general, I feel less worn out after riding the QB with the upright position versus similar rides on the previous flat bars. I'm also amazed at how much better the view is from up there. I find myself noticing new things, new views on rides that I've done dozens of times before. I should note that at least on my Quickbeam, I do run a fairly slack seating position, with a Nitto S84 (40mm offset) seatpost on the QB's 72 deg. seat tube, so I do still have a good angle between my torso and legs even when my torso is bolt upright. As I said before, I haven't seen the Appaloosa geo, but I wouldn't be surprised if the seat tube angle were slightly slacker, like maybe 71 deg, than the more standard Riv designs. Also, don't underestimate the number of hand/back positions that are possible with these bars. If you do need a bit of back inclination, sliding your hands forward is really effective at stretching you out. On Saturday, May 4, 2013 9:38:39 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: One concern I have about using Albatross bars is that I fear that the upright position might make me lose power (and I don't have much). I always feel stronger when pushing from well behind the bb with my torso at 45* or more -- I often naturally fall into the hooks when I want a bit of power up a rise or against a wind -- the hooks are for power as much as aerodynamics. I look at old roadsters and can see that, with their hugely slack seat tubes, even sitting upright you have a large bend between hips and torso. How does this work with a steep 72* or 73* seat tube? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jeremy Till jerem...@gmail.com wrote: When I rode the proto, Keven made the comparison to engine placement in a sports car. Just going upright on a bike with normal chainstay length, you end up with something like an early 80's Porsche, with the engine hanging out over the rear wheels, making the front end of the car light. In bikes, this becomes a problem for attacking steep climbs, since the front wheel won't stay planted. According to Keven, extending the chainstays helps make things more balanced in turn and allows you to stay upright with your butt planted in the saddle on climbs, rather than lean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: ISO Tektro or cheaper Linear long pull Interrupter Levers
One of the UK shops (SJS, I think) has these at a decent price. There is also a domestic Ebay vendor who has them every so often. Pete in CT On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:12:59 PM UTC-4, ccanter wrote: I need a set of these. Riv used to sell the Tektros. Searches only turn up Paul levers which are supposedly either/ or. I'm sure they are great levers but the price is too steep for me. Anyone know of a source for the Tektros? Did they quit making them? Anyone have a pair they aren't using? Best, Clyde Canter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?
+1. I'd suspect that precisely the characteristics that give the SO/QB their qualities will make them a poor tourer. Secondy, the Atlantis is widely considered one of the nicest loaded-touring frames ever. If I already had an Atlantis I can't imagine I'd be looking for a different bike to go touring with! However, if it really is all about fit, and not some much about ineffable ride qualities then you should be able to get your Atlantis to match your SO fit prety closely. Worst case yo might have to trade someone your 56 for the next size up to get a perfect match... -Pete in CT On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:58:10 AM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: And just to echo Joe's comment, as an AHH/Quickbeam owner, I wouldn't hesitate to load the HIlsen. And I've got them set up as Identical Cousins - very similar in ride. It's a tough balance to have a spry, snappy, simple bike and have it behave well when loaded. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: brakes for newer Hillborne frames
I've run both DC 750 centerpulls and Silver sidepulls on my Sam. Both work great. Just depends on your preference. Obviously to use center-pulls you need to to add cable hangers front and rear. Front is a standard piece. I used the Nitto keychain hanger from Riv in the back and it worked well. As Charlie said, in order to get the big tire/fender clearance you can't really use anything shorter. -Pete in CT On Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:16:25 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: I'm looking at the 56 cm blue single-top-tube Sam frames on the RBW site and wondering which brakes they take. Are they all now the Silvers? Don't seem to see any canti posts in the photos. Thanks, -- Forrest (Chicago) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Torker also makes some good stuff in this price range: www.torkerusa.com/bikes/commute/ On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:12:26 PM UTC-4, EastBayGuy wrote: So my little sister is looking into getting a new/First bike. she plans on going on a few S240's and will be commuting in the somewhat flat Davis, Ca area. She is on a College Grad/working at Panera Budget. My question is does anyone have any recommendations for a decent off the shelf bike that is capable of strapping some gear onto and heading into the hills? Thanks in Advance.. Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sidepull brakes versus Cantilevers
I've never had a bike fail to stop because of the type of brake on it. (Of course I don't do radical MTB stuff or descend mountain passes in the rain with a full touring load, so YMMV). It's usually just comes down to clearances, aesthetics and personal preference. -Pete in CT On Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:25:22 PM UTC-4, john wrote: I've been searching the archives for a specific topic which I have not found. Excuse me if I missed it. Due to the fact that an auto struck me while riding, ruining the original the fork of my Sam Hillborne (with cantilever studs), I got a replacement fork (Thanks Rivendell!) which didn't have the studs for canti's. Thus, I'm now using Tektro 559 sidepulls, rather than Tektro 720 canti's, which was spec'd on the bike. I've read much about types of brakes, their various attributes, and etc. Some argue cantilevers have more stopping power (greater mechanical advantage) than sidepulls. Some argue side pulls are simple, elegant, and easier to adjust. Some say, racers have been using sidepulls for years, why not me? Others say neither option is the best; centerpull brakes are the way to go. Then, there is the linear pull brake (V brake), which is another type of cantilever, I believe. Not to mention disc brakes, both mechanical and hydraulic Although I value statistical analysis (Bike Quarterly), I prefer to hear from people who actually ride certain brakes, and what the like, and dislike. I'm not enough of a tech-minded person to stay with all the detail of mechanics. The question is this: Those of you who have used both cantilevers and sidepulls on a Rivendell frame (especially on a Sam Hill, but any will do, I think), which do you prefer for stopping power (not aesthetics), and why? That is to say, if you were to spec a new bike, and it were a road bike, not intended for touring with massive loads but for day rides, multiday tours, even touring any distance with less than 50 pounds, which brakes would you choose, and why? I'm interested in knowing why Rivendell changed their choice of brakes on the stock Sam Hill. from a cantilevered bike to a side pull spec'd bike. Perhaps they save cost in frame production? Perhaps they prefer sidepulls? Perhaps they needed to purchase many of their designed Tektro 559's in order for Tektro to make them? In any case, I'd be curious to hear what folks have to say on the topic. As for myself...I'm still on the fence. I like the sidepull's looks much better. I like the ease of adjustment. I think their stopping power is not as great as the cantilevers - at least compared to my Tektro 720 cantilevers with yokozuma pads. But they're close. Close enough? Depends on how steep the hill, how much weight is on the bike, and etc., of course. In the end, I know it's a very personal choice. Thanks. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne finds its true self
Same here. Had drops - Noodles and Nitto Rando - on my Sam and it was never quite right for my use. If I were doing a tour it might be different, but the way I use it the Alba bars transformed the bike, mostly by transforming MY attitude when I get on it. With the Albas (or, I'd imagine, most swept back bars) you just can't help but feel that you're getting on the bike to have fun. It's funny but the Sam went through lots of iterations, with brifters, no fenders, rando-bag, etc etc but it's now a textbook Riv country bike with lots of shiny bits, grip kings, bags galore, and it now feels just so right as a bike... -Pete in CT On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:38:22 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote: I have my Hillbornehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8575250744/in/photostreamset up like that - Albas, Chainuard/40/24 (though I don't use the 24 and don't have a front derailer yet). It does seem to be made for that. That was how I first rode a Riv at Riv world HQ - a Sam with alba bars and bar end shifters. That got me into my search for my first one. My usual load is my work bad in my basket up front - it is so easy. That said, I went to the grocery store the other day and hauled 20 or so pounds back home in a rear market pannier and it felt so stable and perfect that I might have to consider putting my work bag on the back more often! Maybe with thesehttp://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/wald582rearfoldingbasket.htmlWald baskets? Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: V-Brakes and wide 700c tires w/fenders
I think it's entirely frame dependent. I ran 55mm Big Apples (in 26' though) with big fat Planet Bike fenders and the standard Deore V-brakes that Riv sells (sold?) on my LHT with no problem. But I doubt they'd fit on my Quickbeam... -Pete in CT On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:11:52 AM UTC-5, Salween wrote: Any experience out there with V-brakes, fenders and tires in 700c x 50mm range? One 50mm Big Ben reviewerhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben.htmwas having success, but was not running fenders. Anyone else? Wondering what the max 700c tire-fender combo might be, and maybe the brake to go with it, as this Co-Motion Java frame we're working to order will not accommodate canti cabeling in the rear--not enough space given its more horizontal seatstay angles. Thanks, Owen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
I have a LHT and it too feels dead unloaded. I'm thinking it's somewhat related to Jan Heine's thoughts on frame flex and responsiveness. The LHT frame seems overly stiff unloaded, as it's built to haul, but comes to life (a bit, at least) for me when some weight is on it. Kind of like a pickup truck rides horribly when empty, but much better with a load in the bed. -Pete in CT On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:39:29 AM UTC-5, thalasin wrote: I really wish I could have a long-term, head-to-head ride comparison of both bikes. And maybe I had unrealistic expectations of a touring bike, and maybe the fit on the LHT just wasn't right for me. But I gave it a go for 3 years and am giving up the ghost. I have a Rambouillet, and the ride on that bike is wonderful--so based on that experience and what I've read from others here, I'm assuming I could expect the same out of an Atlantis. I came to hate the LHT and it was absolutely no fun to ride. It was sluggish and every ride felt like a slog. I've never actually toured on it, and others have told me that's where the bike really shines. In my mind, though, if I'm slow and hating it unloaded, I can't imagine putting 40 lbs. of stuff on it and it being any more enjoyable. So, like I said, it's probably a combination of factors and quite possibly ignorance on my part, but I'm looking for other options. On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:24:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Tracy -- asking to add more data to my store: what exactly do you find absent in the ride of the LHT that you find in Rivendells' ride (= comfort?) and handling? I'd love to have a Riv ride mated to my Fargo, whose handling is mediocre, but I put up with the Fargo for its other virtues. (Note one exception: I find that the Fargo does handle heavy rear loads better than the Sam Hill.) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:19 AM, thalasin thal...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd be all in for a budget version of the Atlantis, as that's the bike I've always wanted but just can't afford. I tried to make do with a LHT, but I never liked the bike and am getting rid of it. It's the Rivendell ride I'm in search of, so if it actually comes to fruition, I'm in without hesitation. Tracy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
Agreed. Ugh. In the quest to make a budget Riv, what exactly are the qualities they are trying to deliver at a budget price, and what exactly can be given up to get there? If you are trying to deliver the Riv ride and fit, great. Then do it in a form that allows you to deliver those qualities in a less expensive package, like a TIG-ed, powder coated frame. If you are just trying to deliver lugs, then you'll eventually hit a floor on labor, even if you use the cheapest tubes possible. But still, if you want lugs-for-all, cheap, then go for it. If you are trying to deliver everything, but just cheaper, then you can't. That's why there's no $30k Ferrari. I think that at least some small part of Riv's appeal is that they are nice bikes to a degree, that people are proud to own. I don't see how a rattle-can-it-yourself frame fits into that brand image. If paint is the only thing you can imagine giving up, then maybe you just can't do it. It wouldn't surprise me if RBW has reached the same conclusion. -Pete in CT On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:11:26 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: Ugh... On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, redsydude thau...@q.com javascript:wrote: I think in 2011 their idea was to spray paint the frame for a few dollars to make it look old and increase its theftproofedness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas
Not sure how the 25lb pack thing is relevant. The OP said he wanted to carry a case of beer on his front rack. On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:02:55 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I have really enjoyed the links and references on this thread. Throwing out a usage consideration, though. It's entirely possible to live two weeks out of a 25-lb. pack. So, messengers notwithstanding, what is a real-world capacity requirement for a front rack? For me, a min-sized front rack, 11-liter rando bag with Bertoud decaleur covers all my foreseen needs. Certainly not the biggest bang for the buck, but convenient, and even classy. On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:28:40 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: Pass Stow Rack meets every criteria save price - even price is fine if you consider quality, utility and durability. On Friday, February 22, 2013 12:07:36 PM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote: I am working on a Sam Hillborne build. I got a used 60cm single top tube sidepull brake edition (thanks Jim M!). I am trying to keep this build on a strict budget, which is tough. I wanted to hear from your ideas to solve the following problems: 1. I have a Soma mini front rackhttp://store.somafab.com/somialfrra.html, with a Wald 139 zip tied on, but it is too short to clear 38mm tires and fenders. I have it p-clambed to my current bike and that works ok, but feels more wobbly than if it were bolted on, I think. Is there a way to extend the legs? I was thinking of a connector between the rack and eyelet, but I think a joint there would be prone to flex with weight. 2. The Mark's rack would be great in theory, but expensive and only is expected to take 4.4 pounds. 3. Anyone had any experience with this dutch rackhttp://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=38product_id=187? They sell it in the US herehttp://rollingorangebikes.com/front-carrier-steco/. Shipping/importing makes it pricey. Pros - sturdy as heck. Cons - a bit overbuilt? Damage to headtube? 4. I looked at these racks from Racktimehttp://www.ebikestop.com/racktime_topit_universal_front_mount_rack_silver-RK7206.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CMz2mIe8yrUCFQ7NnAodaWcAhA. Never heard of that seller. All the pictureshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/geiranders/5134857957/in/photostream/I have seen set them pretty high. Anybody used one on a Sam? How are the Sam mid-fork braze-ons in terms of height compared to other manufacturers? Thishttp://twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/2010/10/top-racks-and-mid-fork-bosses/review of racks says Rivendell's are higher than others. True? 5. Reading that review made me look at this Blackburnhttp://www.blackburndesign.com/racks/front-racks/mtf-1-front.html. Anybody used that with Riv mid forks? 6. I looked at Jenny's Hilsen on the staff bikes page and she said she used this Sun-Lite QR rackhttp://sunlitecycling.com/product_detail.php?short_code=QR-TEC+Front+Rackcl1=RACKS+FOR+BIKES- I'd rather bolt it than use up the quick release, as it would then no longer release, quickly! 7. General considerations 1. Price 2. Weight (not of the rack, but capability - I usually throw my work bag in there and sometimes up to a case of beer - 20-30lb) 3. Can I attach a front headlight? I am loving the BM IQ fly RT from Peter White. 4. And of course quality and longevity, but I have had basic cheap racks last a long time in my daily commute needs. 8. I think the new Sam's have two eyelets on each side up front, which would probably have solved everything! Other suggestions? Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis a picture of where I am, mid-build. Thanks in advance. Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas
Minh, I personally don't really like front loads, perhaps because I've never tried it on a bike optimized for it. I've tried baskets. rando bags. even the platrack/slickersack combo, but I particularly dislike the way the front wheel flops over as soon as you put a load on it. The only thing of substance I carry in front any more is my dog, in a wald basket strapped to a CETMA rack. Since he's small enough to fit in the basket, he's also small enough to lift up after I've straddled my bike and stabilized the bars to load him in. It's a pain, but I don't have to do it that often. -Pete in CT On Monday, February 25, 2013 12:23:34 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Peter P. He mentions in the original post 20-30lbs (not sure how a case of beer equates 20-30lbs but he did mention it). I think this is a great thread to illustrate all the options for a front rack, but i question the motivation of cheap and strong and good looking. I read a mixed set of motivations here, you can find an affordable option like the blackburn, but if you're the type of person to think what-if down the road, i suggest just going with the pass stow, the paul's etc to settle that lingering doubt. if deep down you want one of those go for it. PS. have you actually carried 20-30lbs on the front of your bike that high? i have a nitto big front and don't even try to carry that much! On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: I am working on a Sam Hillborne build. I got a used 60cm single top tube sidepull brake edition (thanks Jim M!). I am trying to keep this build on a strict budget, which is tough. I wanted to hear from your ideas to solve the following problems: 1. I have a Soma mini front rackhttp://store.somafab.com/somialfrra.html, with a Wald 139 zip tied on, but it is too short to clear 38mm tires and fenders. I have it p-clambed to my current bike and that works ok, but feels more wobbly than if it were bolted on, I think. Is there a way to extend the legs? I was thinking of a connector between the rack and eyelet, but I think a joint there would be prone to flex with weight. 2. The Mark's rack would be great in theory, but expensive and only is expected to take 4.4 pounds. 3. Anyone had any experience with this dutch rackhttp://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=38product_id=187? They sell it in the US herehttp://rollingorangebikes.com/front-carrier-steco/. Shipping/importing makes it pricey. Pros - sturdy as heck. Cons - a bit overbuilt? Damage to headtube? 4. I looked at these racks from Racktimehttp://www.ebikestop.com/racktime_topit_universal_front_mount_rack_silver-RK7206.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CMz2mIe8yrUCFQ7NnAodaWcAhA. Never heard of that seller. All the pictureshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/geiranders/5134857957/in/photostream/I have seen set them pretty high. Anybody used one on a Sam? How are the Sam mid-fork braze-ons in terms of height compared to other manufacturers? Thishttp://twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/2010/10/top-racks-and-mid-fork-bosses/review of racks says Rivendell's are higher than others. True? 5. Reading that review made me look at this Blackburnhttp://www.blackburndesign.com/racks/front-racks/mtf-1-front.html. Anybody used that with Riv mid forks? 6. I looked at Jenny's Hilsen on the staff bikes page and she said she used this Sun-Lite QR rackhttp://sunlitecycling.com/product_detail.php?short_code=QR-TEC+Front+Rackcl1=RACKS+FOR+BIKES- I'd rather bolt it than use up the quick release, as it would then no longer release, quickly! 7. General considerations 1. Price 2. Weight (not of the rack, but capability - I usually throw my work bag in there and sometimes up to a case of beer - 20-30lb) 3. Can I attach a front headlight? I am loving the BM IQ fly RT from Peter White. 4. And of course quality and longevity, but I have had basic cheap racks last a long time in my daily commute needs. 8. I think the new Sam's have two eyelets on each side up front, which would probably have solved everything! Other suggestions? Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis a picture of where I am, mid-build. Thanks in advance. Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP
Oh boy. My size and the right price. Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the resulting divorce would be very costly! -Pete in CT On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote: As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. Update to the previous post with pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/ I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a replacement set of bearings. I will install a new cable guide on the bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your request. For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on the coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/ Thanks for taking a look Rob oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote: I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for another project. It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am thinking of letting it go for the cash flow. Structurally it is perfect. There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired by waterford and is good as new. The down side of the repair was the clear powder came apart on the fork. I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep. The RCP held up pretty well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting. The bike is a true candidate for a repaint. All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my workspace, you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like and still come out hundreds less than a new one I will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
Some pics of my Sam with center pulls http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE6pq6F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas
I second CETMA. Solid stuff. I have one on my commuter. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
The Soma Stanyan is lugged and about $750 IIRC. I'm guessing that's pretty much the floor for a decent lugged frame. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I don't find the difference in stopping power, only lever feel. The long tektros result on more squish at the lever for me, even though the centerpulls technically have more parts and joints to impart play. I've never had a bike not stop due to brake system choice. But I dont ride in technical or demanding (loaded touring descents down mountain passes) conditions either. So YMMV. The current iteration of my Sam is a pure country bike with alba bars. The tektro sidepulls work fine in that config. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes
I had DC 750 centerpulls on my side-pull Sam for a while. (Pics are around here somewhere. Will post) They worked really well, looked nice (i'm a sucker for symmetry) and cleared a 45mm fender and 35mm Pasela with ease. The rear cable hanger must be improvised, obviously, so I used one of the Nitto ones that Riv sells. Bike has gone through a few iterations since and now has Tektro sidepulls. They both work. I'm currently more fond of the less-hardware look of the sidepulls, but that's just changing tastes. -Pete in CT On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:28:45 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It is good looking. It's nice to see how much reach those brakes have since I'm using them for a build where max reach will be important. I think it's about 75 mm max. Looks like it's set at minimum reach in front, but closer to middle-reach in back, which is actually consistent with the blue/cream 60 cm Sam I have here. GP has been known to be serious about brake even-ness, but I suppose it's one of those dimensions that can be compromised a little for the greater good. In this case, I doubt it affects anything. Here's an orange one from a couple years ago that seems to be more brake-even. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/4860314027 On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:52:50 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales wrote: That whole build is just plain beautiful to me! Interesting to see that it's actually up for sale, I wish I had the funds. Any reason to go center-pulls? More clearance/power/modulation? Chris Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?
There seem to be two kinds of strategy with the 2x2 set ups. Some, like Colin, go for essentially two gears, as far apart a practical keeping the matched tooth difference. He's done a TON more riding than I have with this set up so it's obviously very effective! Others try to get 3 or 4 different ratios out of the 2x2. 3 is pretty easy, but getting a 4th useful ratio while staying within the 8 tooth range of the QB/SO dropout is tough. Does anyone have a 2x2 set-up with 4 useful gears within the 8 tooth range? -Pete in CT On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:18:43 PM UTC-5, Colin B. wrote: I've ridden 2x2 fixed for touring since 2007 - first an IRO Rob Roy and now a Simple One. I've done cross country and some significant tours on both coasts with this setup. I'm a fan of the widest spaced Surly Dingle (17/21) and when using it I match the tooth difference on a double up front (ex.: 44/40) so the wheel doesn't move when I switch between two useable gear combinations, ex.: 44/17 (high) and 40/21 (low). The White Industries Dos is as similar concept but a freewheel. Surly Dingle (fixed): http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog White Dos (freewheel): http://www.whiteind.com/singlespeedgearing/freewheels.html With the Dingle and a matched-tooth-difference double gear changes are quite fast. (You don't need to flip the wheel and won't need to adjust the brakes.) In practice, you can have a wider range or more than two useable gears going the 2x2 route, but accomplishing these things is a bit more fiddly than my set up, and w/r/t touring I resist fiddly-ness. Up front, 42/38 is the sweet spot for me for loaded touring. This gives me 68 and 49. The idea is that the high gear is for 98% of the time. The low gear is for when you're heading north in Glacier on a long day, or nursing an injury. (Or if you're less religious or dumb than me, save your knees and use the low gear whenever appropriate.) The hardest part of this setup is getting the chainline perfect in both gear combinations - if you worry about those sorts of things. Overall, highly recommended. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I believe the QB (and by extension the SO) can handle up to an eight tooth cog difference. So you could for instance use a 32/40 and 16/19 White Industries hub to get four gears (I do this on my QB wannabe Surly Crosscheck, but it's only good up to six teeth--I run 34/40 x 16/19 on that) Eric Daume Dublin OH On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, allenmichael allenm...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Currently, I have a S1 set up simply with one in the front and one in the back. I'm not sure how many gear inches I have but it handles moderate hills in San Francisco comfortably and isn't too slow on the flats. I'm wondering though about whether I could set up the bike with two-in-front and two-in-back, put on a moderate load, and ride it as far as San Diego or Los Angeles from here. Thanks in advance. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?
One thing that has always appealed to me about Rivs was their versatility. I like that the bikes allow for opportunities, enable multiple possibilities, rather than dictate or limit them. Yes, a true single-speed is perhaps more pure, but I really appreciate that Grant hit upon the idea that a one-at-a-time-speed bike offers essentially all the advantages of an only-one-ever-speed bike while providing more versatility. And nothing about it detracts from setting it up as a pure single if that's what you want. Pete in CT On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:31:04 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I think it is strange to buy a SS and try to get a range of multiple gears out of it. OTOH, I can see rigging a ss with two ratios, one for road and one for off road: the Dingle cog is excellent for that. I'd love to have a light, ss 29er with, say, a 39X17/21 for a 67 on-road gear and a 54 off-road gear. One day, God willing. While I think multiple sprocket and cog combos on what is designed as a ss is odd, I do sympathize with the conflicting desires for simplicity and multiple speeds. IMO, the good ol' AW is the way to go. Long ago, short of cash after buying my first decent road bike, I hacked an off roader out of a horrible Schwinn 3 speed with a 36 ring and an 18 cog. With the roughly 26 wheels, this gave me gears of 39, 52, and 69 inches which suited me (this was almost 25 years ago when I was young and buff) off road. (I remember riding with my flame at the time over a jeep track with multiple stream crossings and enjoying watching the water flow into and out of the rear hub. It continued to work fine until I finally abandoned the bike near a dumpster with the usual free to good home sign. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Peter Pesce pete...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: There seem to be two kinds of strategy with the 2x2 set ups. Some, like Colin, go for essentially two gears, as far apart a practical keeping the matched tooth difference. He's done a TON more riding than I have with this set up so it's obviously very effective! Others try to get 3 or 4 different ratios out of the 2x2. 3 is pretty easy, but getting a 4th useful ratio while staying within the 8 tooth range of the QB/SO dropout is tough. Does anyone have a 2x2 set-up with 4 useful gears within the 8 tooth range? -Pete in CT On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:18:43 PM UTC-5, Colin B. wrote: I've ridden 2x2 fixed for touring since 2007 - first an IRO Rob Roy and now a Simple One. I've done cross country and some significant tours on both coasts with this setup. I'm a fan of the widest spaced Surly Dingle (17/21) and when using it I match the tooth difference on a double up front (ex.: 44/40) so the wheel doesn't move when I switch between two useable gear combinations, ex.: 44/17 (high) and 40/21 (low). The White Industries Dos is as similar concept but a freewheel. Surly Dingle (fixed): http://surlybikes.com/parts/**dingle_coghttp://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog White Dos (freewheel): http://www.whiteind.com/**singlespeedgearing/freewheels.**htmlhttp://www.whiteind.com/singlespeedgearing/freewheels.html With the Dingle and a matched-tooth-difference double gear changes are quite fast. (You don't need to flip the wheel and won't need to adjust the brakes.) In practice, you can have a wider range or more than two useable gears going the 2x2 route, but accomplishing these things is a bit more fiddly than my set up, and w/r/t touring I resist fiddly-ness. Up front, 42/38 is the sweet spot for me for loaded touring. This gives me 68 and 49. The idea is that the high gear is for 98% of the time. The low gear is for when you're heading north in Glacier on a long day, or nursing an injury. (Or if you're less religious or dumb than me, save your knees and use the low gear whenever appropriate.) The hardest part of this setup is getting the chainline perfect in both gear combinations - if you worry about those sorts of things. Overall, highly recommended. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the QB (and by extension the SO) can handle up to an eight tooth cog difference. So you could for instance use a 32/40 and 16/19 White Industries hub to get four gears (I do this on my QB wannabe Surly Crosscheck, but it's only good up to six teeth--I run 34/40 x 16/19 on that) Eric Daume Dublin OH On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM, allenmichael allenm...@mac.com wrote: Currently, I have a S1 set up simply with one in the front and one in the back. I'm not sure how many gear inches I have but it handles moderate hills in San Francisco comfortably and isn't too slow on the flats. I'm wondering though about whether I could set up the bike with two-in-front and two-in-back, put on a moderate load, and ride it as far as San Diego or Los Angeles
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?
Here in CT our hills tend to be relatively short and nasty, and I can't ride very far without hitting one. So the ability to shift is helpful if I want to go on a longer ride or explore new roads. I have a couple of 15 mile routes that I can do in one gear, and I ride them frequently as I rarely have more than an hour to ride anyway, but longer than that and I'd need to climb something. Also, my local roads tend to be narrow and winding with no shoulder. I feel less safe (rationally or not) pushing a bike up a hill in that scenario than I do riding it. That said, I can do my normal 3 mile commute in one gear, so that, plus my typical short, flat routes means I probably only shift on one in ten rides. But if I limited myself to what I use 90% of the time I wouldn't need more then one bike, or a fly rod, or a 35mm film camera, or an espresso machine. And what's the fun in that? So I surely could get away with one speed, but having the options has no down side to me so why not have them? And there's always the fantasy of the someday, future Quickbeam credit card tour around New England... On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:03:16 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: True; one man's strange is another man's this is great!. Pursuing this thread: Those of you who have such dual ring/dual cog setups: how often do you shift, and when? I know that, with a flip flop and even a Dingle -- all my fixies have either a cog on each side or a Dingle -- I often, when faced with a climb or wind that is uncomfortable, think of the hassle of loosening the nut or bolt, moving the chain, etc., and say, forget it and just get off and walk. QR axles would certainly help. I'm curious how others use their multiple fixed gears. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Peter Pesce pete...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: One thing that has always appealed to me about Rivs was their versatility. I like that the bikes allow for opportunities, enable multiple possibilities, rather than dictate or limit them. Yes, a true single-speed is perhaps more pure, but I really appreciate that Grant hit upon the idea that a one-at-a-time-speed bike offers essentially all the advantages of an only-one-ever-speed bike while providing more versatility. And nothing about it detracts from setting it up as a pure single if that's what you want. Pete in CT On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:31:04 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I think it is strange to buy a SS and try to get a range of multiple gears out of it. OTOH, I can see rigging a ss with two ratios, one for road and one for off road: the Dingle cog is excellent for that. I'd love to have a light, ss 29er with, say, a 39X17/21 for a 67 on-road gear and a 54 off-road gear. One day, God willing. While I think multiple sprocket and cog combos on what is designed as a ss is odd, I do sympathize with the conflicting desires for simplicity and multiple speeds. IMO, the good ol' AW is the way to go. Long ago, short of cash after buying my first decent road bike, I hacked an off roader out of a horrible Schwinn 3 speed with a 36 ring and an 18 cog. With the roughly 26 wheels, this gave me gears of 39, 52, and 69 inches which suited me (this was almost 25 years ago when I was young and buff) off road. (I remember riding with my flame at the time over a jeep track with multiple stream crossings and enjoying watching the water flow into and out of the rear hub. It continued to work fine until I finally abandoned the bike near a dumpster with the usual free to good home sign. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Peter Pesce pete...@gmail.com wrote: There seem to be two kinds of strategy with the 2x2 set ups. Some, like Colin, go for essentially two gears, as far apart a practical keeping the matched tooth difference. He's done a TON more riding than I have with this set up so it's obviously very effective! Others try to get 3 or 4 different ratios out of the 2x2. 3 is pretty easy, but getting a 4th useful ratio while staying within the 8 tooth range of the QB/SO dropout is tough. Does anyone have a 2x2 set-up with 4 useful gears within the 8 tooth range? -Pete in CT On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:18:43 PM UTC-5, Colin B. wrote: I've ridden 2x2 fixed for touring since 2007 - first an IRO Rob Roy and now a Simple One. I've done cross country and some significant tours on both coasts with this setup. I'm a fan of the widest spaced Surly Dingle (17/21) and when using it I match the tooth difference on a double up front (ex.: 44/40) so the wheel doesn't move when I switch between two useable gear combinations, ex.: 44/17 (high) and 40/21 (low). The White Industries Dos is as similar concept but a freewheel. Surly Dingle (fixed): http://surlybikes.com/parts/**di**ngle_coghttp://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog White Dos (freewheel): http://www.whiteind.com/**single**speedgearing/freewheels.**htmlhttp
Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.
One advantage of the front-mount solution to consider is that having your dog in front of you will allow you to talk to and pet him/her etc and thus help ease any anxiety. I have trianed my 15 lb terrier to ride happily in a front wald basket (either rack-supported or with the wald struts -he's too heavy for any cantilever or hanging options) and being able to pet him and give him encouragement - I actually fed him small treats every few minutes in our first rides around the block - was a huge help in getting him comfortable. -Pete in CT On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:04:56 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks. I actually bought a discount Herse a couple of years ago and got a big rack and custom bag to carry Nico, but he didn't like it and I found that I didn't like the big front rack and front loading -- even on a Herse. The Timbuktu looks like a very good solution since (1) I don't need a dedicated bike setup and (2) I hear that animals feel more secure if they are nestled against you back. (Nico is an emotional wimp, trained killer or no.) Am planning to try it. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Paul paulgc...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: These things exist: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/product/FLM-02 I found one at a yard sale and haven't used it to cary a dog (mine weighs 45 lbs) but it seems pretty stable and comes on and off the bike easily. Just a couple straps around the handlebars, and there is this support thing that just rests against the head tube. That website has an entire category for these things: http://www.pets2bed.com/site/1405195/page/888771 Paul On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: That's cute. Segue-ing violently: How have any of y'all carried ~ 8 lb animals on your bikes? I'd like to find a way to carry my trained attack/guard Chihuahua (who pees in fright when I come to take him to the car) on my bikes. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: everyone should have a chifferobe on their bike. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q6mnvf5jCuQ/UP_57ZBzwwI/AbM/yxh3ehF8fcw/s1600/aP1180003.jpg Even my cat likes it On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:58:27 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:53:02 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: something I discovered pedaling into the teeth of a beating south wind this weekend - a tall rando bag acts as a faring, and reduces drag. Seriously, it directs the wind flow and reduces the parachute effect of your torso and thighs. It was also a great place to stuff my layers as the day and I both warmed up. IIRC, there was an early BQ which did a low speed wind tunnel test of various set ups. ahhh - here ya go: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-**rea** l-world-bicycles/http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/aerodynamics-of-real-world-bicycles/ - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?
I have the 40/32 and 16/19 on my QB and have a couple of observations. First, I run the 40/16 most of the time and can climb much more than I ever thought possible in that range. Second, the 32/19 feels much lower than i thought it would. Also, you can always put a 22 on the flip side of the Dos as a bail out option. If you need lower than that then just walk. I've found that large part of the QB ethos amounts to becoming one with just get over it! Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: And the winner is...
Congrats! Have fun with it! (... and now back to reality for me!) -Pete in CT On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2kOUVHSYyz8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?
I've got a pair of Marathon Supremes, a new Noddle, and some Not-So-Tights, plus random other stuff. I thought of going the gift certificate route, but prefer to get stuff in the mail as opposed to promises of future stuff. My custom would probably be a Roadeo-lmost set up to fit 650b with long reach sidepulls or 700c with standard reach. (According to the math it should work, if you're not worrying about fenders. There could be some catch I haven't though of, though.) -Pete in CT On Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:58:13 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote: A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask Grant to cook up for me if I win. My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored on fleabay.): 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 2 tubes for 'em 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 8 sp cassette, 11-32t Sugino XD2, wide/low double 2 corks total: $300.00 My prize request: 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hBp5SVyPP6sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Where have all the Riv-diamond braze-ons gone?
My QB, bafflingly, doesn't even have a proper fender boss on the rear brake bridge. Everything is built to a price. (That being said, the QB is a dream of a bike and I'd be happy with it even if it had one fork leg and no seat tube!) -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3zk0g21Kc40J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
+1 on Andrew's query. Does a gift cert count? Also, do you get the 5% rebate on gift certificates you purchase? (I'm pretty sure there's no rebate on GC's when you redeem them, but correct me if I'm wrong) -Pete in CT On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:46:15 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote: That would also solve the problem where things one might wish to buy now, toward the raffle, are on backorder. Does anyone from RBW wish to clarify if a $300 gift certificate is acccepted as a raffle entry? - Andrew, Berkeley On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:05:05 PM UTC-8, William wrote: Even a person who doesn't need anything at the moment should buy themself a $300 gift certificate. Buy the $300 Gift Certificate, hand it to your wife and tell her This is what I want for Christmas. It's perfect! On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:15:37 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: That would be a Mountain Fixte! I'm looking at what I can justify, seeing if it will come to $300 - Andrew, Berkeley On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:57:47 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I'd do a version of that Mountain Fixie that was such a troublesome truck. Basically a fixed gear fool-around-in-the-woods bike. Able to take 60mm Big Apples and fenders, like a super-attractive version of my industrial-ugly Gravel Roadsterhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/front-bag-conversion-on-problem-solvers/. Flared drops. Threadless stem. Berthoud saddle, maybe? I like your mixte idea for standover/bailoff clearance. Maybe an Abele gray, black, or pea-sage green; something low-key for the woods. Pencil blue, maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/r-KU2nATI9UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer
The question is, what do you want your new bike to do that one of your current bikes doesn't do, or do well? You may in fact want a Riv, but maybe not a Sam, or maybe not at all. What's you most pressing need? Unless you have lots of money and storage space I wouldnt buy a bike because they sound great. If most of your riding is your commute, then I'd buy the bike you'd most enjoy commuting on, taking into account the nature of your ride, where you lock it / keep it, etc. If you could commute on a Sam I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy it more than the Velorbis. Pete (guilty as charged with a Sam and QB) in CT On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:51:14 AM UTC-5, Chris wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for checking out my post. I currently have three bikes; a Pashley Guv'Nor (beautiful to look at if a bit uncomfortable on longer rides British bike), Velorbis Scrap Deluxe (very comfortable and heavy Danish bike I currently use for my work commutes) and an Electra Verse (my I don't care what happens to this bikebike. I really love the new double tube Sams and I'd love to buy one. Many of you own multiple Rivs and they sound great but do I need one? I don't do any touring. I commute to work on the weekdays and if I'm fortunate to get some time on the weekends (I have an 8 year old boy not really interested in biking) I get out to Griffith Park here in Los Angeles. Where in your opinion would a Sam fit in? Do you recommend selling one or all of the others to buy a Sam? Any and all opinions are welcome Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mVpqieKO_zIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Boy, it's pretty easy to come up with $300 in my shopping cart, even though there's not a single thing I need! If I won, I'd probably basically end up with a Roadeo fattened-up to hold me. With fancy paint, of course... My country and utility bike needs are pretty much covered already at this point. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:06:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Rivbike wrote: I just posted on the blug but thought to repost here. We're raffling off a custom frame to one lucky customer who places a $300+ order during December. Info here: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/37206352818/rivendell-raffle Happy Holidays -Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wZ5kfH5MbG8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Go fast bike: San Marcos?
Agreed. But for me at least, go fast is purely a feel, as nothing with me aboard will be going fast by any objective measure! It's more about a lively and responsive quality that I don't think is purely related to weight or anything in particular. My Sam just never felt anything but stout, even with brifters and light-ish wheels and tires. In contrast, my QB always felt noodly with luggage on it. I know from the specs that there's is relatively little difference in the frames, and many people have successfully loaded their Q's with all sorts of luggage. It was a just a feel thing for me. (Though i do think the forks are quite different, which may contribute to my perceptions) It does seem to be rare to find a road-oriented, caliper brake, frame with clearance for wider (than 28) tires and fenders. That's what is pretty unique about the Roadeo. -Pete in CT On Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:01:49 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote: It should be pointed out that a whole lot more goes into making a bike a go fast than just the frame and fork. Roadeo's are fast because they are often built with fairly lightweight parts, especially wheels. If you end up going for for the San Marcos, especially in a smaller size like your, I should think you would be able to make a pretty zippy little bike if you choose the right parts. Get some lightweight wheels built (how light are those new Pacenti 650b rims?), use something like Pari Motos or the GB Cypres for tires, some of the lighter weight Nitto bars, a Thomson seatpost, etc Maybe forgo the brooks (gasp!) or spring for one of the Ti-railed ones. On Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:20:43 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote: I have been trying to get the funds together for a Riv go fast bike. Right now I have been using my Sam Hillborne for it, but I would really like to change that into an albatrossed townie commuter bike and get a dedicated lighter bike using little to no baggage so I can ride with the local club and to do charity centuries on. The Roadeo seems like the perfect bike for it, really. BUT. I was pondering though, instead of dropping two grand on a Roadeo frame, what about building a Soma San Marcos. If I went the San Marcos route, I would save 1100 bucks on the frame, which is not chump change, and be able to put some of the extra money towards the parts to switch the Hillborne over to the townie and get a good build on the Soma. Both the Sam and the Soma would be 650b in my size (51cm), but the Roadeo would be 700 wheels. I would guess that the Roadeo would be a lighter bike, all in all. My question are these: would the San Marcos be a good dedicated go fast bike, is it any faster feeling than the Sam in that regard? Any owners want to share their opinions of the bike? Do you think I should just bite the bullet and save for the Roadeo (which sounds like is perfect for what I want) and stop thinking of saving money? Anyway, thanks for your help. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3bEqZ4tn0-MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Go fast bike: San Marcos?
I too tried a Sam as a go fast and decided to look elsewhere. I currently have my QB set up for minimalist rides. The Rodeo is clearly the number one choice, but barring that the SM seems nice if you are not in the 2TT size range. Double top tubes and going fast are just not synonymous in my mind. Otherwise, Soma makes many steel frames that will go fast. I have a Double Cross that I love. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4ifNHsrf8U8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Keeping your neck warm
I have a fleece neck gaiter from lands end (one of those things you buy to get over the free shipping threshold) that is great below 32 deg, but too warm above that. How about a section of the thigh cut from otherwise worn out wool leggings, or, for that matter, a neck salvaged from a otherwise unusable turtleneck? -Pete in CT (where it was neck gaiter weather this morning!) On Friday, November 30, 2012 3:46:16 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks, all -- some good products but too bulky for what I want. But you've given me some ideas. I tried the Riv wool neck gaiter -- not sure if it was the Possum one -- and didn't like it -- it chafed, so I went to fleece. But again, too bulky for ~50F. Will report. On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmu...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Try a merino wool Buff. We've got a couple in our household and frequently give them as gifts. http://www.rei.com/product/789718/buff-wool-buff Kevin Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jlbywou9OXYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CsK146Gm3q4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New/old magnets at Rivendell
Went to order a magnet and patch, but $8 shipping on $12 goods is silly. I'd order a lot more from Riv if they'd fix their shipping rate structure. Maybe if I send them a good old fashioned self-addressed stamped envelope from the pre-internet days? -Pete in CT On Friday, November 2, 2012 1:05:26 AM UTC-4, Dennis Hogan wrote: Thanks Joe for the heads-up - those are great - have placed the order (plus a few other items to amortize the shipping cost ;-) ) Dennis in PDX On Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:19:37 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Well..I didn't expect to see *these *again. New Rivendell and Baggins Bags magnets at ye old www.rivbike.com. 10 bucks each, which is really gonna steam the guy who beat my bid of $25 for one on Ebay a couple weeks ago :) Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EzHjMpg-SBcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Wasn't my Riv, but rode my commuter to vote on the way to work. It was 29 degrees at 6:45 AM when I left the house, so not many bikes there! Not many people at all really , so it took me all of 5 minutes to vote. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X43toMJ89gwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions
I think you can buy individual BQ issues right from their website. Regarding the SP hub, I have the PD-8 on my commuter, but have only had it a month so cannot comment on durability. Initial impressions are that it is built perfectly well given its price. I'm sure it's not SON quality, but at half the cost it let me get a dyno system, where I couldn't have if I felt I had to buy a SON hub or nothing. I can't see the SP being built any worse than any other hub at the same general price point like the Sanyo or Shimanos. As for everyone's endless obsession with weight, drag, and efficiency, I think it's all a bit silly as the differences are miniscule and are completely lost in the noise, especially for us Riv-sh folks. -Pete in CT On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:50:27 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: H Leaning towards Shimano or the SP non-switchable. Any first hand experience with the SPs? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pWbuJrQrVRkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions
Ah yes, good point. Forgot to mention that the SP hub also uses the Shimano connector. That was a factor for me as it makes it much easier to share the wheel among bikes. -Pete in CT On Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:45:41 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two. My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as well. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:37:06 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now. No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I find its hard to justify the price difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HC2s_7jNUHMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Kelly In the 9 miles I've ridden it so far it's very nice! I have the PD-8 so no clutch on mine. I have no previous experience with any other dyno hub to compare it to, but I was really surprised taking it out of the box how small and light it was. Its barely larger than the XT hub that was on the bike before. The finish quality seems good, but 9 dry miles is no test of durability! Riding, I cannot sense any drag or vibration, on or off. It just disappears. The buying experience was very smooth. It got here in a week from Taiwan via regular mail. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UTHA42lLUEMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention touring so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you are out and about could make a dynamo system worthwhile for you. A decent headlight will eat batteries quickly, but if you only need be seen blinky lights then a set of batteries could last a whole tour with occasional use. -Pete (dynamo powered as of this morning!) in CT On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUH4scgXS_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?
I actually have both 46 Noodles and 45 Randos. Surprisingly, even though I'm 6'3 I find the Randos more comfortable despite their being only 38cm at the hoods. Go figure. I use the drops less than 1% of the time, so I can't really comment. Also I ride almost 100% paved road, but I can see the wider bar being a big help off-road. Pete in CT On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:45:36 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar Suggestions thread... I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes. I like them fine but wonder if there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur. (hand position(s) and long ride comfort) If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at least mine are) With this, it would seem that the flaring of the Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position. I wonder if this is true in real life? B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C B-135 Rando (45, 25.4) reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C. While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare? Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all three) bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F38NBd8y4ywJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I upgraded to a dynamo system and tonight was my first ride home with it. It's very nice to just ride and go, with no battery anxiety. I have an IQ Cyo up front and a Toplight Line Plus Brake in the rear. Love them both so far, along with the SP hub dyno that's powering them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3xJKGajVoqoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rode my Giant Defy road bike today because...
I bought my new Soma Double Cross fork with a 400mm steerer tube - you could have flown a flag from that thing! In my case, I have an 82 cm saddle height and a 62cm frame was the biggest they make, so I wanted extra insurance in being able to get my bars up level with the saddle. I cut a good bit off (so I wouldn't put an eye out reaching for the bars) but still have 1 of adjustment above the stem with my bars level with my saddle. It CAN be done, it's just that shops usually pre-cut road bike stems for that slammed' look that's oh so popular. -Pete in CT On Friday, October 5, 2012 9:59:46 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: There's nothing carved in stone that says threadless = low handlebar. You could always buy a threadless fork with a 300+ mm steerer and get the bars up to your comfort zone. Riv sells a fork like that, I believe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8i2eRtJtqUMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Suggestions?
How does the width of the 46cm Cowbells compare to the 46cm Noodles? I'm really interested in trying the 'bells on my new commuter... it's threadless so the 31.8 is no problem. Thanks, Pete in CT On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:45:16 PM UTC-4, lukeheller wrote: I second the vote for the SALSA COWBELL. I have been on a rampage for the right bars. I have a set of salsa bell lap's on my Surly LHT touring bike but decided, when building my Riv, that I should go with the classic look of the quill stem + polished silver Nitto Bars. I started out with the B135 Rando bars. I liked them for a good while till the narrow hoods just wore me out. If they were 45 in the hoods instead of the drops, I probably would've kept them. However, those bars are not for big riders! I had a set of 46cm noodles on another bike that I liked... but not that much. After swapping bars and stems several times on my Riv, I decided that I was done with quill stems and that I'd try out the quill stem adapter so I can try some 31.8 bars. There are so many more bars options in 31.8. So I'm now running the 46cm Salsa Cowbell 2 and love them. I love them so much that I put another set on my other bike... and I ordered a set for my sister's bike... and I put them on a bike I built for my buddy. I know bars are a personal thing but I think these bars have a great formula going for them. The short reach, shallow drop, and flare in the drops in fantastic. I highly recommend! On Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:10:59 PM UTC-4, tragicallyaverage wrote: Building up a bike and it needs some new drops. Any suggestions? What do you ride? I know Noodles of course, and I've tried them in 3 different widths and for some reason they don't hit home for me. If you had to put a drop bar other than a Noodle on your Riv/Riv-ish bike, what would it be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/o4dJCVldMO0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone ride a Riv-ish double crank setup?
One thing you could do more cheaply than a new crank is go with a 34 t cassette in back. You might have an MTB derailer lying around, and even if your buying new the cassette and RD woould be less than a new crank, unless of course you insist on Ultegra quality. -Big Cog Pete (mind your spelling, folks!) in CT On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:49:53 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: My used Bleriot came with an Ultegra drivetrain. Compact double 34 x 50, 11-27 in the back. It is a little too much for me on the hilly areas around where I live. So I was thinking I could just put smaller rings on the front. 30 x 46? Lower the front derailer a little? *Was wondering what un-racer crank toothcount you use if you have a double.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lHy0tDILNrAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First commute -- Mystery Bike!
Hooray! Pics! Fantastic bike. That thing just oozes comfort! -Pete in CT On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:06:43 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: Finally got the Mystery Bike built up (still no fenders, though -- working on the right fender/tire/brake combo), and took it for its maiden voyage/first commute. What a great bike! A couple of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023681452/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023688058/in/photostream/ -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BpwxEmpMEeAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any commuters here?
I commute most days, but not on mt Rivs. The ride isn't that long - 3 miles - and is not really conducive to enjoying the bike. That said, I still decided to replace my LHT with a Double Cross to get a nicer ride... -Pete in CT On Monday, September 24, 2012 12:34:58 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: I have heard mention of tours, overnights, and recreational riding. Does anyone commute on their Rivendell? I have since about August and I really enjoy the stability on descents and the great handling and cush of the bike and wider tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/j1UlccfaczwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Kid's Bikes
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UUbLZqYyjQ4/UFx6SNBqAyI/ACI/9FRfqmvSXc8/s1600/Linus+Kids.jpg Many here are often lamenting the lack of good kids bikes. Apparently Linus showed a couple of new kid's models at Interbike this week: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3RfCWhCYAAXeq7.jpg:large I wasn't there, so I have no info on pricing, availability or sizing. Just saw this on Twitter and thought the Bunch would be interested. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBIz4yjECpMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Kid's Bikes
Just found another pic on Urban Velo. http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/interbike_2012_148.jpg Not 3-piece cranks, unfortunately On Friday, September 21, 2012 10:38:04 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Whaaat! My Daughter would flip over the little red one. Real 3 piece crank and decent component group is hard to find in a classic looking kids bike. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Peter Pesce pete...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UUbLZqYyjQ4/UFx6SNBqAyI/ACI/9FRfqmvSXc8/s1600/Linus+Kids.jpg Many here are often lamenting the lack of good kids bikes. Apparently Linus showed a couple of new kid's models at Interbike this week: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3RfCWhCYAAXeq7.jpg:large I wasn't there, so I have no info on pricing, availability or sizing. Just saw this on Twitter and thought the Bunch would be interested. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBIz4yjECpMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tdJTLSMAFFQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant on a blog (not bike related blog)
I actually wore one this summer to do yard work in the sweltering heat. If soaked in cool water (and, better yet, put in the freezer for 10 minutes!) it makes working outdoors much more bearable! On Friday, September 21, 2012 12:00:45 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Since I met Grant in person back in May, I have become a semi-closeted neckerchief wearer. I purchased an extravagant $12 insect-repellent neckerchief that nearly matches my olive MUSA shorts. I find it extremely handy, and I must admit that I look dashing when I'm wearing it. Mostly I've worn it when traveling out of town though. I fear such a noticeable accessory would prompt folks who know me to ask questions, and frankly, I don't have the energy to explain it more than once or twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AO8_iuhdMP8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question
David- The 610 maxes out at 61mm, so it probably won't work. Sounds like the 750 would be perfect, though. According to VeloBase the range on the 750's is 60-78mm. I had the 750's on my sidepull Sam for a while and they were really nice. They fit nicely over a 45mm fender with no pinching and would probably clear a 50. -Pete in CT On Monday, September 17, 2012 7:21:38 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks, I would be interested. Do you know what the reach is on these brakes? Will they work for the Hilsen? Per the geometry chart, the Hilsen effective brake reach is 65. David Charlotte, NC On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote: David I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7eNj4t3UQtAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question
David I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jiPLQZZCUuMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another coroplast bar bag
Well done. I like the random graphic elements. Reminds me of things made from old sailcloth. BTW, wouldn't it be Bar BOX? Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xNxOLPTydgUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Dyno - SP Dynamo Hub
Glad to hear your positive experience. I have one of these on order for my commuter. Common wisdom seems to be that the SP is the same as the VO and Supernova. VO stopped selling theirs after a couple of months due to quality issues. I've never heard of quality issues with the SP branded ones out there, though. eBay seems to be the best source for the SP. the guy selling them there appears to be the distributor for the US and Europe. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NzffePZOuv0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Dyno - SP Dynamo Hub
Kelly- Do you have the SD or SV model? From my understanding of SP's nomenclature the V is the non-disc and the D is the 6 hole disc version. Also the S indicated the small wheel version, correct? Any feedback on low speed behavior of the S hub? I ordered the 700c wheel version, I believe it's the P series, because I don't mind a few extra grams and read one review where they noticed odd behavior of the S model at low speeds. (apologies if I have this all completely bass-ackwards!) Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/j1G7tvd6lt4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shocking Riv-ish developments at an LBS near me...
I was just thinking about a similar thing. I seriously doubt Trek keeps the lights on at Trek world HQ selling Madones. For all the angst over the race-centric bike industry I'd guess 99.9% of the 15.7 million bikes sold in the US in 2011 were comfort, hybrid or MTB. Heck, 4.7 million of those were in the under 20 wheel category, which I assume is mostly kids bikes, not Moultons! Pete in CT On Saturday, September 8, 2012 10:22:08 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Just this year, Surly removed any restrictions on steerer tube length from their warranty language. The old warranty was invalidated, supposedly, if the steerer protruded more than 100 mm (4) above the headtube/headset. We at HC have been ignoring that for years, but this year Surly gave their blessing to long steerer tubes with the phrase, IIRC, go nuts. LHT steerer length for 700C wheels is 320 mm (about 13) and for 26 wheels and 56cm+ frames, it's 380 mm (just over 15). For most people, the full-length steerer is plenty to get the bars high enough. Even when we cut some off, I always leave an extra 10-15 mm, just in case the rider wants to go a little higher someday without a new up-angle stem. Anyway, this is a case where the conventional wisdom about threadless steerers being universally too short is wrong. Incidentally, I don't believe this is a case of the industry seeing the light as much as a case of saving money by not pre-cutting the steerers. It's really nothing new that bike shops are selling non-racer bikes. Everyday Mongo and I fix up old bikes made in the past 1-50 years. Most are hybrids or comfort bikes or mountain bikes or 1970s and 80s 10-speeds or English 3-speeds and the like. The fraction of older racing-inspired bikes that come through for service is tiny. I suspect this means that people have mostly been buying non-racing bikes for the past 50 years. Of course, the shops like to push the sexier stuff. When I worked at Freewheel, which is a big Trek shop (and former BStone dealer) in Minneapolis, we had lots of racy bikes on display to greet customers when they walked in, but I sold probably 2-3 Trek 520 touring bikes for every racing-style bike, and probably 20 $400 hybrids for every race bike. I don't recall selling even one $5,000-10,000 Madone, even though we had them to sell. On Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:53:49 PM UTC-5, Tony Lockhart wrote: It's nice to hear LBS folks saying that their sales are coming primarily from regular people. Kinda makes me wonder if more and more people are realizing the enjoyment that comes with cycling. Surlys are great bikes and it makes sense that they're increasing in popularity. I have a conjecture about the high steer tubes. I speculate that the bikes at your LBS are built up with uncut steer tubes so customers have the option of fine tuning their handlebar height. Perhaps potential buyers get the opportunity to mix and match washers to find the ideal height when going in for a fitting. On Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:10:22 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Sorry for the typos. I wonder if quill stems will be coming back anytime soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3wTlPsAjEoEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
Funny you mention that! I was just today looking at the Cowbell for my Soma DC build, and thought they might be nice on my Rivs too if not for the clamp size. Now, if we could only convince Salsa to make then in silver! Off to the Salsa forums to start a thread. Pete (never satisfied) in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/z_2fNriICDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nitto Noodle (B177) questions
My 46cm Noodles actually have unequal sweeps. I always thought this was in my head, but I actually measured it the other day. Bike has never been in an incident that could have caused it, and I've suspected it from day one. Once I'm on a ride and have my mind on other things, I forget about it and it doesn't bother me. Guess you can get used to anything! On a related note, 46cm Noodles for sale cheap. (just kidding of course) Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LYeIgA9DbYIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
I would LOVE if Riv could use their clout with Nitto to get them to make a removable faceplate quill stem. The bar (un)wrapping (and inevitable scratching) with quill stems is the one thing I dislike about them. I know there are or have been some versions of this out there, but none with Nitto quality as I recall. -Pete in CT On Friday, September 7, 2012 1:10:18 PM UTC-4, Dan wrote: I am with Jim on the threadless headsets. I have two rivs that I love but if I could change one thing it would be to go threadless. It would offer a much wider variety of handlebar choices, I find it easier to adjust the headset, and it is stiffer, and more headsets are available, and I like being able to remove the bars without unwrapping the tape. I am relatively new to disc brakes, but I like the mechanical bb7 brakes on my surly troll a lot especially now that I am finally figuring out how to adjust them. Dan Abelson St Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NOjDZYGmgZ0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but one advantage of cable discs is that you can use any normal, standard-pull brake lever - brifter, mtb, inverse, guidonnet, etc.. This is why the 'cross and road disc bikes now hitting the shows use mostly cable discs. This will eventually change, of course, as road discs seem to be the Next Big Thing that Trekalized will push on the road riding masses, so hydraulic STI levers cant be too far off. For me, however, part of the Riv ethos is the idea that you can freely mix and match parts to suit. I've already messed this up a bit for myself with V-brakes, but at least you can find a lever that is convertible from short to long pull. Not sure if there is a lever than can convert from hydraulic to cable. Another HUGE advantage to disc brakes, for the Riv and Bob folks, is you can use any wheel size your heart desires! As long as the frame has the right clearances, (and what Riv frame wouldn't?), you could pick 700c, 650b or even 26 at will. Sure, fender mounting could be tricky, but it's a lot easier to find fender mounting work-arounds than it is to move canti bosses. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:37:17 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Or hydraulic brakes... I've been riding both cable and hydraulic disc brakes for years, and I'm here to tell you, hydraulic Shimano's (the older style) are the bee's knees... I've never had issues with busted brake lines or poor performance... They're easy to maintain and super dependable, way more dependable than rim brakes! And even the best-adjusted cable-actuated disc brakes can't come close to the hydraulics. The price has come way down on hydraulic brakes... there are few reasons left to go with cable discs... I've been running them on my mountain bikes for years in all kinds of rought weather conditions (including ice and snow). THEY STOP in all kinds of weather! I'd love to see a disc version Rivendell...although I fear it would require a beefier fork (for the forces applied to the lower section of the fork). This might be a challenge to make a beefier fork that looks elegant. Then again, I'll bet it's possible to preserve the beauty in a disc version.. Wes Williams (for example) makes a beautifully curved 29er disc fork (the Willits WOW). I love the look of rim brakes, but performance wise there's simply no contest between rim and disc brakes. Peace, BB On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:53:11 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: I would like it if this bike were made ready for disc brakes. Mechanical ones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZalgjyXwiLcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
Thanks for the correction! Discs aren't really my forte... obviously! On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:18:24 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote: That's not exactly true. Unless specifically noted, most cable-actuated disk brakes are set up for long cable pull, the same as v-brakes and are only compatible with long-pull levers. There are a few short-pull specific calipers, such as a couple of models of the Avid BB range that specifically have a road version. I think a couple of other manufacturers (Formula, Tektro) are starting to come out with short-pull road models (those are probably what you're seeing on disc cross bikes), but they are still relatively thin on the ground. The current crop of cross and road bikes use cable discs mostly because nobody's come out with a hydraulic drop-bar lever yet, and any of the conversion systems (I've seen one involving cable-actuated master cylinders under the stem) don't quite seem refined enough yet. However, at Eurobike this past week Colnago was showing off disc road bikes with a hydraulic, electronic brifter (for either Campy EPS or Shimano Di2) they had designed with Formula. On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:23:00 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but one advantage of cable discs is that you can use any normal, standard-pull brake lever - brifter, mtb, inverse, guidonnet, etc.. This is why the 'cross and road disc bikes now hitting the shows use mostly cable discs. This will eventually change, of course, as road discs seem to be the Next Big Thing that Trekalized will push on the road riding masses, so hydraulic STI levers cant be too far off. For me, however, part of the Riv ethos is the idea that you can freely mix and match parts to suit. I've already messed this up a bit for myself with V-brakes, but at least you can find a lever that is convertible from short to long pull. Not sure if there is a lever than can convert from hydraulic to cable. Another HUGE advantage to disc brakes, for the Riv and Bob folks, is you can use any wheel size your heart desires! As long as the frame has the right clearances, (and what Riv frame wouldn't?), you could pick 700c, 650b or even 26 at will. Sure, fender mounting could be tricky, but it's a lot easier to find fender mounting work-arounds than it is to move canti bosses. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 10:37:17 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Or hydraulic brakes... I've been riding both cable and hydraulic disc brakes for years, and I'm here to tell you, hydraulic Shimano's (the older style) are the bee's knees... I've never had issues with busted brake lines or poor performance... They're easy to maintain and super dependable, way more dependable than rim brakes! And even the best-adjusted cable-actuated disc brakes can't come close to the hydraulics. The price has come way down on hydraulic brakes... there are few reasons left to go with cable discs... I've been running them on my mountain bikes for years in all kinds of rought weather conditions (including ice and snow). THEY STOP in all kinds of weather! I'd love to see a disc version Rivendell...although I fear it would require a beefier fork (for the forces applied to the lower section of the fork). This might be a challenge to make a beefier fork that looks elegant. Then again, I'll bet it's possible to preserve the beauty in a disc version.. Wes Williams (for example) makes a beautifully curved 29er disc fork (the Willits WOW). I love the look of rim brakes, but performance wise there's simply no contest between rim and disc brakes. Peace, BB On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:53:11 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: I would like it if this bike were made ready for disc brakes. Mechanical ones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OYKII8A9jmUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Coral on my head
I have Bern that I use for winter - complete with fuzzy earflap liner. It's way too hot for anything over 40 deg. On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:57:04 AM UTC-4, Mojo wrote: Whip boy that looks like a sweat bucket for the warm season! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ThGQ_OdDEsIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Thanks! I hope my wink adequately conveyed that I didn't *really* think anything was fishy! Just eager to see... Pete (irony is the only thing you can't get on the internet) in CT On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:11:13 AM UTC-4, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ds3zEgugLiIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
Soma sells their fancy lugged Stanyan for $700 ish, so I'd guess thats about as cheap as lugs can get. Below that youre in a very crowded market. Both Soma and Surly sell very sensible frames at the 4-600 price point. Pete (with a Soma Double Cross Disc on order to replace my LHT) in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zmmC_s5zq7QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YwDVPJHf4Q8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Does your technomic stem extension sit level on your bike? The top of the 7.
I've only ever seen 72 degrees listed as the angle for nitto technomic stems, which is within a degree of most every riv head tube. How is yours angled down so much? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jPT-Jke2ndUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
Tim. Sounds like the very common shudder that is cured with a fork crown mounted cable hanger. Did Riv suggest that? Pete (canti-free, only V) in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dg0D2BBdV-IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nitto Randoneur bars. Have tyou used them?
I started with 46 cm Noodles based on info here and the Riv site. Rode them for a while and liked them well enough. Tried 45 cm Nitto rando bars next. While 45 is the widest they make, that is at the ends of the drops. The hoods are about 7cm narrower, making these feel like 38s. Surprisingly, I was able to get comfortable on them pretty easily after the wide noodles. After 200 miles they felt natural. Very surprising given the radical change in width. The flare makes it very easy to reach the brakes from the hoods, and the rise at the corners is comfortable too. I don't ride the tops much, but they seem least successful there. I went back to the noodles on my QB and they now feel very wide! If the narrow Nittos worry you VO makes a rando bar that is 48 cm I think. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QVzENr5MA7EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
Does this make him an UnRacer now? :) On Friday, August 24, 2012 1:47:22 AM UTC-4, Jim Cloud wrote: Just picked this up from internet traffic: http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LjpzDw-fGwgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fitting my SimpleOne not so simple
A Sam isn't a simple answer - my QB fits me better than my Sam (60cm), and I'm about the same height as you. That being said, I was only able to get my Sam to work with a setback seatpost. And it actually worked better for to keep the stem as is and just move my butt back. It seems to me that a small movement of the saddle is equivalent to a larger change in the stem in terms of moving your center of gravity, perhaps because there is much more weight on your saddle. Interestingly, my QB (a 62cm) works fine without the setback, although I currently have the bars set a bit lower in fast roadie mode. Good luck. There's nothing as satisfying as that moment when you get the fit dialed in! Pete in CT On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:41:38 PM UTC-4, Matt wrote: Hello Rivers, I'm running out of ideas, so wondered about soliciting some brainstorming and help. In the spring, I bought one of the last 62cm SimpleOne's on Closeout. It is lovely, but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to fit right. Here it ishttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=372497459468367set=a.371847872866659.105177.11243471869type=3theater, as originally set up fixed at ~63 gear inches with a 120mm Nitto Tech Deluxe stem, 48cm Noodle bars, Nitto 83 seat post, and Brooks B17 saddle. I'm 6'2 tall, 185lbs, with a PBH of ~90cm. No matter what adjustments I've made, I can't get my hands and arms to feel comfortable on the bicycle. I know I like the vast majority of my weight on the saddle and away from my hands, so have put the saddle as far back over the rear wheel as the post will allow and have tried putting the handlebars up higher as well. Recently, I changed out the 120mm stem for a 100mm Tallux, hoping it would move my centre of mass rearward, but my hands, arms and upper body still feel propped' on the bicycle. Despite the marked up-tilt on my saddle, my behind still seems to slide forward as well. Have others experienced something similar? What advice might you offer in adjusting the bike to fit me better? Is it more realistic to give up and trade the SO for a Hilborne with it's nice lax 71.5 degree seat tube angle to put my weight where I want it? Thanks in advance, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sqef0FJY4oEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nitto rear racks vs. Topeak racks with slide on trunk bag attachment tracks.
I use the Topeak system on my LHT commuter / utility bike and find it very convenient. I have a couple of the topeak accessories, and have managed to jury rig a few other things to work on the track system (like a waterproof plastic ammo box.) On my Rivs, however, it's all nitto and canvas and leather. Just feels right somehow. Regardless, what works for you is what's best. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OIvfY6whhjkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I really like my Rivendell bicycle and riding it makes me happy
Michael- I guess Local Man Does Something Because He Enjoys It just isn't considered news! :) Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/m9SzEpy2AA8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Mystery Bike!
Ooh! Will Riv get someone to make a new version of a suicide shifter? I'd absolutely LOVE a Silver Suicide Shifter for my QB! Pete (shiftless in CT) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qlQJmBTwL-kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
On a related note, how big we're your riding companions? The popular online tire drop calculator indicates 85 psi in a 37mm rear tire for a 225 lb rider with 75 lbs of bike and gear. My LHT actually rides much nicer with a good load on it. I always assumed it did so because that's what's it was designed for, and the harshness I sometimes feel with my light commuting load is due to a tube set designed for much heavier duty. Id assume your Atlantis has the same ultimate capabilities, but with a more sophisticated design it just works better across the entire range of loading. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jQbg2O_USHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
