There is where the problem lies... your his elmer on this list.
I guess your down 20 points.
-Sean
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Neal Newman wrote:
Hey as an Elmer I teach my students electronic theory.
His Elmer apparently has NOT. shame on Him minus -20 Elmer for him.
Jeff Otterson
As Dennis Miller would say... I don't want to get off on a rant here,
but...
Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
Gentlemen, if you can't offer sincere help or an opinion that's
relevant or that doesn't reflect negatively on your upbringing, it
might be better to leave it alone.
And how exactly is
Hey as an Elmer I teach my students electronic theory.
His Elmer apparently has NOT. shame on Him minus -20 Elmer for him.
Jeff Otterson wrote:
Neal Newman:
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Minus 10 Elmer points.
Jeff
At 11:44 PM 11/30/2004, you wrote:
Sorry I cannot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nate,
We have the hardware and software solution you are looking for. See
www.zapatatelephony.com under the remote base link.
Steve
WA6ZFT.
Actually Steve, it was your project that sparked my interest in looking
for such a beast as a small embedded ATA with
Just a point the Metro-Comm system here on the east coast. The voice ID
comes on and tells you the PL is 156.7 system wide.
In the Philly PA area the standard tone is 131.8 so you can just have the
voice or CW ID tell you the PL. A lot of the new radio's will scan for the
PL and that is real
At 12/2/2004 05:37 PM, you wrote:
His comments about old farts is probably technically accurate. A
large percentage of older hams (too large) will invite you over for an
807 and talk mighty talk about the old days of radio but they won't
take ten minutes to solder a $30 tone board into their
Unfortunately, Nate apparently missed the entire point...
At 08:37 PM 12/2/2004, you wrote:
As Dennis Miller would say... I don't want to get off on a rant here,
but...
oh but you did...
Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
Gentlemen, if you can't offer sincere help or an opinion that's
relevant or
Well thats 2 transistor inverters you now owe meLOL
say the magic word and Build yourself a new Repeater..
Wade Lake wrote:
Notice that his email username is groucho. I guess there is a reason for
that.
- Original Message -
From: Eric Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I have a Motorola VHF MSF-5000 Repeater/Base station, with the test set,
RIB and RSS, and am looking for a Service manual for the Repeater.
Yes, I know they're available from Motorola.
Yes, I know they're sometimes on ebay, but none are listed right now.
Thanks,
Larry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Coordination has become a joke in certain areas, because the coordination
representatives are not professional or following decent rules of conduct.
I *NEVER* give my EXACT location in coordination applications anymore (in
Oregon). I also am very guarded about what information I do give.
In
On Dec 2, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
Unfortunately, Nate apparently missed the entire point...
No I didn't. Drop the insults and come back here to the
repeater-builder topic... why do people insist on using carrier
squelch?
To get back to Art's original topic -- that you
Hello Joe,
My apologies again for the amount of time it has taken to get these radios off to you. My work, a buisiness in Arizona and 2 here in Virginia, has unfortuneately kept me very busy and priorities have shifted around.
http://iship.com/track/trk.asp?t=MME7XYJ9EVA24
The above link
I think that CTCSS is used too often on
inputas a crutch for "solving" (covering up) interference problems. I'll
bet a properly-operating carrier-squelch repeater will work better than one with
a tone, simply because it is open to interference that must be FIXED, not just
covered up with
Here you go... You can even connect them together and we can end up right
where we started. ;-)
- Original Message -
From: Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inverting COS
Well
From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:59:37 -0700
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 12-Step Program for Carrier Squelch Addiction
(was: snide remarks)
On Dec 2, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
Unfortunately, Nate apparently missed the entire point...
No I
From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 00:46:28 -0600
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks
Coordination has become a joke in certain areas, because the coordination
representatives are not professional or following decent rules of conduct.
[snip]
Gee. Tony's
I'm posting this for a friend.
Don't reply to me... reply to the email address listed below.
73,
Jon Pearl - W4ABC
For Sale:
IFR 1200 with spectrum analyzer with opt 05.but the battery has been
removed.(Charger installed).
Near mint condition.
Has never been used in the field.
Comes with
Hi Barry,
very carefully risking a brief step into rules discussion, my apology
In part 97.205
(http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/47cfr97_03.html) there's
no provision for anything other than a call sign assigned to an individual
or a club. FCC assigned call signs for amateur
Mr. Grizzard-
So now I ask YOU, are you normally this oblivious, or is this a special
case? As you state below, the thread evolved into discussing coordination.
The squelch sense issue was *WELL* addressed in recent threads here. It is
also covered on several web sites in very, very basic
Is this the Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com or Whiner's Club
Kenneth Buley
Bullitt County DES CD-2
Bullitt County Red Cross/Certified ECRVDriver/Operator BC-6
Bullitt County ARES\RACES Coordinator KY4DES
Mr. Grizzard-
So now I ask YOU, are you normally this oblivious, or is
Nate - it's WORSE than than that!! CTCSS was introduced under the trademark
name of Private Line by Motorola in the 1950's. It is FIFTY year old
technology!!
-- Original Message --
Received: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:38:52 PM CST
From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNIP
Art's opinion is
I didn't initially want to step into this, or encourage this discussion.
However, some have posted their more thoughtful and comprehensive comments.
Therefore, I will post a few of my own here now.
Political correctness is a fact of life, but courtesy should reign above
all. Living in one
I agree.let's get back to technical discussions now and away from
setting technically worthy criteria of someone posting a question on
the list
Ron
WW8RR
-Original Message-
From: Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 03,
Would it be possible for everybody to get into the holiday spirit -
get over all this grumpiness - and get back to discussion of
TECHNICAL issues???
TIA
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Thank you for the honorific, Mr. Mackey. I sincerely appreciate it.
This is a special case. I waxed offensive in order to place you in the
crosshairs. How comfortable are you when you're called on the spot in public
with no basis for it?
Mr. King does not believe the thread devolved into
Title: Need AC mains monitor
Looking for a inexpensive, stand alone device that can monitor the output of a power supply for loss of AC mains power and then inject a beep tone onto the TX audio when its keyed up. This needs to be able to be interfaced to a RICK unit, which is being used to
Last time I needed one of these, I took a regular 12vdc plug slug/wall
wart type of power supply and fed a relay keeping it energized all the
time. Then I copied the beep tone circuitry from a Motorola R100
repeater (its a pretty straightforward tone generator) and used that to
put the beep
Mr Grizzard-
You've gone to senseless babble.
Get a life or borrow someone elses. Being from Sioux City, I've spent some
time in Cedar Rapids know that town must have SOMETHING to offer you other
than what you are (attempting) to do here.
Mr King does not need you to speak for him, he can
It has been very tempting to unsubscribe, but I do find plenty of useful
information here. I agree 100% HO HO HO!! Its Christmas guys. If
someone asks what appears to you to be a DUMB QUESTION, remember you
weren't born with the knowledge either. Just answer it and move on!!!
BESIDES,
re: snide remarks
Zzz!
Sorry about that, I fell asleep.
S.
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Daron,
Yeah, I've looked at some of the repeater controllers as well, but the problem
I have is that this is a crossband system, not a standard TX-RX only system. It
is bidirectional, and the controllers I've seen wont work in that configuration
with their built-in AC monitor functions, hence
If that is meant to imply that old is bad, and newer is better, we
should be talking about adding CDCSS (AKA DPL) to the repeaters, not
CTCSS (AKA PL)! (or maybe even LTR as opposed to CTCSS OR CDCSS)
But, it's a moot point when it was invented - it was not standard in ham
rigs until the 90s.
At 04:22 PM 12/3/2004 -, you wrote:
Would it be possible for everybody to get into the holiday spirit -
get over all this grumpiness - and get back to discussion of
TECHNICAL issues???
---I agree! But don't post rap lyrics either! (see subject line) g
Ken
looking for some cm300 software and info as to weather or not it
does just the cm300 models.. and anybody no where to obtain it or
have it plase send asap to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thank you very much
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---I agree! But don't post rap lyrics either! (see subject line) g
Ken
Which brings to mind the question of What would Santa say after seeing a newly
mown field, a reindeer, and three prostitutes???
Answer;
Hey, Rudolph, ho,ho,ho !!
(Sorry about that,Chief, just couldn't pass that one
I have some GE Mastr III 860 amps, which I am selling, which are
rated at 110w on 26-28vdc.. +10dbm drive. They make 100 or better on
927.9875 and below. Most do 110w. Size is comparable to a Mastr II station
PA. Asking what I consider to be quite reasonable The Maxtrac Exciter
Wouldn't that be Yo! Yo! Yo! G
Anyhow back on the topic of repeaters..
I lurk quite a bit here and over on the AR902 group and I am in the process of
gathering the pieces
and parts to put up a 900Mhz amateur repeater. I am trying to locate a
relatively inexpensive
900 Mhz continous
We all know what carrier squelch is so I won't go
there.
CTCSS (Private line) is also well known.
Now most newer ham gear has DCS CTCSS.
My question is about DPL, is this compatabile with
DCS?
If so will DCS do inverted code like DPL?
Lastly without getting into Part 97 to much is DCS
or
DPL is to DCS as PL is to CTCSS...in other words, they are different names for
the same thing.
And GE's name is CG or Channel Guard.
Kenneth Buley
Bullitt County DES CD-2
Bullitt County Red Cross/Certified ECRVDriver/Operator BC-6
Bullitt County ARES\RACES Coordinator KY4DES
-Original
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We all know what carrier squelch is so I won't go
there.
CTCSS (Private line) is also well known.
Now most newer ham gear has DCS CTCSS.
My question is about DPL, is this compatabile with
DCS?
If so will DCS do inverted code like DPL?
Lastly
Hi,
Can anyone respond with the pin out of the 25 pin D-sub connector on the back
of a motorola desktrac? Also, what jumper inside the unit disables the time
out timer?
Steve
WA6ZFT
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Thanks, Nate, for the positive remarks, you pretty much explained it as I intended it to be received and explained my frustration. ( I guess I thought everyone on this group was intelligent enough to read between the lines.OOPS major foopah!)
Sorry if I offended someone with a
Hello All,
For our Metro-Comm, INC new 900 MHz we bought all our stuff from Cook Towers
new.
For amps we bought Crescend 130 watt out amps for each site. Model number
P15-R5L1-001 for duplexers we use the TX/RX station duplexer model
28-88-04321-A for power we use the Astron RS-70 13.8 VDC 70 amp
There is also a Motorola Medical Base Station
decoder system called the Hear format.
Another is the HF Micom serial decoder system,
which actually works pretty well on/with SSB.
Steve Bosshard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some other squelch systems are Burst also
called AutoMute by
---
Yes, I do think repeater building is about keeping
up with the technology and
building quality machines. Being a 40+ year veteran
of commercial two way
radio, I cannot comprehend someone not wanting to
use 30 year old technology
(as you put it.) As well, I can't comprehend someone
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...Can anyone respond with the pin out of the 25 pin D-sub
connector on the back of a motorola desktrac? ...
_
http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=36497
KI4AWK wrote:
I think that CTCSS is used too often on input as a crutch for
solving (covering up) interference problems. I'll bet a
properly-operating carrier-squelch repeater will work better than one
with a tone, simply because it is open to interference that must be
FIXED, not just
RCA = Quiet Channel ...
Neil
Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) wrote:
DPL is to DCS as PL is to CTCSS...in other words, they are
different names for the same thing.
And GE's name is CG or Channel Guard.
Kenneth Buley
Bullitt County DES CD-2
Bullitt County Red
skipp025 wrote:
There is also a Motorola Medical Base Station
decoder system called the Hear format.
Another is the HF Micom serial decoder system,
which actually works pretty well on/with SSB.
both are variations of the old 'Secode' system used on IMTS channels.
Basically, it's
Thanks -
Steve WA6ZFT
From: nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2004/12/03 Fri PM 03:57:14 EST
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Moto Desktrac 25 pin acc. connector pinout
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...Can anyone
I have three each 100 - 134 watt msr 2000 PA's pulled
from service in working order covering 400 - 599mhz.
Model # TLE2283B
Asking price each is $200.00 or best offer.
Contact info:
F.Barry Thompson
925 Delbert way #1
San Jose, CA. 95126
Cell PH (408) 885-1237
Regards, Barry N6CID
As long as the ten-meter remote transmitter was operating in the repeater
subband, you'd be working through the 440 repeater and within the privileges
of your license. The fellow who owns and operates the system would be
responsible for his emissions on all bands. That doesn't mean you could
Lets not forget Kenwood.
QT = CTCSS or PL
DQT = Digital PL
I think Regency has the right idea. They just call
it tone smile
- Original Message -
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: Re:
OK Smartie Pants...
Who had Quiet Tone..?
skipp
Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RCA = Quiet Channel ...
Neil
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Wow - that's quite a frequency spread! Continuous duty?
LJ
Original Message:
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From: Barry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:49:47 -0800 (PST)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 PA's 100 watt for uhf 400 - 599 mhz
for
Worked along the lines of rotary phone. Slow by
todays standards. Better than cranking the handle
round.
Cheers Jim,
skipp
Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
skipp025 wrote:
There is also a Motorola Medical Base Station
decoder system called the Hear format.
Another is
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...Looking for a inexpensive, stand alone device that can monitor
the output of a power supply for loss of AC mains power and then
inject a beep tone onto the TX audio when its keyed up. This needs
to be able to
skipp025 wrote:
OK Smartie Pants...
Who had Quiet Tone..?
skipp
EFJ?
or Aerotron...
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL
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Title: Need AC mains monitor
we have a system we lease that can monitor
your power output and 2 other inputs and email you the info.
cost $18.50 per month and it covers the lease or the
equipment
John
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin Bednar
To:
Thanks for the input Mr May, I'm not a big M guy,
but the model number on the repeater case indicated
such broad-banded operation of the PA inside.
Since you appear to have knowledge on the subject
might you provide us with the model number detailed
information?
Regards, Barry
--- skipp025
Kenwood
- Original Message -
From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?
OK Smartie Pants...
Who had Quiet Tone..?
skipp
Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not..!
There are at least 3 band ranges for the UHF High
Power PA (notice how I didn't use the Continous
Duty label).
I believe the highest band range went to about 512.
The most common range pa went from 450 to 494 and
preforms well at 440 Mhz with slightly reduced
ratings.
The max
Kenwood. Radio Shack also uses the term Quiet Tone for CTCSS.
EFJ called it Call Guard I think?
Didn't Aerotron or Regency have a different name for it too?
-Original Message-
From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:08 PM
To:
KI4AWK wrote:
I am proud to say now that it is open carrier
squelch with no problems.
Great. Now your repeater becomes our problem during a
band opening. We can't select the repeater that
shares your frequency during the opening. All we get
is hetrodynes.
Joe
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