RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola M-100
The RADMBL software is a bit older than their MaxTrac cousin. I recall there is a timing value in the PC Configuration screen on the RADMBL. Perhaps that needs a bit of tweaking depending on the speed of your computer. I've had no problem with programming Radiuses or MaxTracs using a Pentium at 850 MHz, so either my version is newer than yours, or has been set to operate on the faster machine. It's always possible that the program you had on the Thinkpad was corrupt or older than the one on the Toshiba, or maybe it was never set up for that machine when it was first installed. But, glad it's working now. Yup, lots of good information over there on the www.repeater-builder.com web site, Motorola section. Bob M. == --- Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:20 PM 2/25/06, you wrote: Just like to say Thanks to all that Helped with The Motorola Radius M-100, I appears the Radio was Set up as a 1Freq unit, So I tried going into the Mode setting with a Old IBM ThinkPad Pent 166 in the Dos Mode, It would Program Set power Etc But it would not let Me add anything in the Mode setting, So I found a Old Toshiba T5100/100 Amber Mono Screen laptop, and I was able to Just add F2 using the Mode setting. Everything Works Fine Now, Sure glad the Wife did not throw out that old Laptop Computer, Needless to say it has a 40 meg Hard Dive it will find a Nice Place in the Radio room now with some Programs on it. Thanks Again PS Everyday a Old Man learns at least one thing that is a Great Day, Now Remembering it is another Thing Don KA9QJG And now if you want to know WHY you need that old computer, read this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/rss.html I put that together after talking to a dozen old time radio guys and computer geeks, and if anybody has anything to add to it let me know. Mike WA6ILQ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Cabinet
Hi- If like our's- The front and back are keyed the same- The back can be replaced for about 5-7 bucks with another lock.That's what the local safe-cracker told me.Just had the same cab keyed.TKS,Jerry W8KQDon Wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunatly someone broke the rear lock to get in the cabinet. Imwondering if the locksmith can repin it. All they did was pull thepins out of the inside of the lock hopefully they can repin it.--DonOn 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it was indeed something like a vending machine lock - I just had never thought of it as such, but htat's a good description. It kinda "pops out" when you unlock it, and you have to press it back in to lock it back up. Quite different than the small locks that require the BF10A key. LJ -Original Message- From: Don Wisdom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 22, 2006 9:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Cabinet Do you guys have the same type of lock i was describing ? --Don On 2/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Likewise, for my 100W and 200W GE MASTR II cabinets - a GE1000 key. The BF10A worked in the mobiles and small GE cabinets. LJ -Original Message- From: N9WYS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 22, 2006 9:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Cabinet Might be a GE1000 key... That's what mine needed anyway.Mark - N9WYS-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wisdom Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II CabinetHi All, I picked up a Mastr II Cabinet today (6 foot) it has what looks like a vending machine lock on the front and what looks like a bf10 lock but the bf10 key doesnt fit in. Anyone have any ideas what these might be ? High Security locks ?? Im going to drop them off at the locksmith's tommorrow and see if they can figure out the keys Any help is appreciated Thanks --Don Wisdom KD7WKFYahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links !SIG:43fd4beb220591474556261! Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams!!!!
With all the worry about the fragile communications infrastructure in times of disaster, it seems that we hams are being recognized as an adjunct infrastructure that isn't nearly as fragile. 73, Dick W1NMZ The White House today released its review of the federal response toHurricane Katrina, which, according to a statement, "identifies the systemicproblems in Federal emergency preparedness and response revealed byHurricane Katrina - and the best solutions to address them." The reportincluded 17 lessons the Executive Branch learned after reviewing andanalyzing the response to Katrina; made 125 specific recommendations to thePresident, and identified 11 critical actions to be completed before thefirst day of the 2006 hurricane season.The report also included a section titled, "What Went Right" in the Katrinaresponse, which singled out amateur radio operators for particular praise:*"Other organizations worked tirelessly to assist emergency responders that,due to the storm, did not have the equipment and means to effectively carryout their duties. Amateur Radio Operators from both the Amateur RadioEmergency Service and the American Radio Relay League, monitored distresscalls and rerouted emergency requests for assistance throughout the U.S.until messages were received by emergency response personnel. A distresscall made from a cell phone on a rooftop in New Orleans to Baton Rouge wasrelayed, via ham radio, from Louisiana to Oregon, then Utah, and finallyback to emergency personnel in Louisiana, who rescued the 15 strandedvictims. Ham radio operators voluntarily manned the amateur radio stationsat sites such as the National Hurricane Center, Hurricane Watch Net,Waterway Net, Skywarn and the Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network." YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams!!!!
Thanks for posting this, Dick. What those individuals did should not be forgotten. But if the efforts of Hams are worthy of praise, then are they not worthy of publicity? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of publicity, then are they not worthy of support? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of support, who then will take advantage of that opportunity? Is that not a question yet to be answered? Often, Hams are viewed by government and private organizations as liabilities with nothing to add. While this may be superficially arguable, at the end of the day it is not likely factual. Some assets and services are just difficult to put a price on. Photo opportunities may be all we have to offer in exchange for what we need to occasionally provide an emergency communications system. Furthermore, I do not believe that proof of what we offer is enough for some people so maybe we should not take that course. What course do we take? I really don't know what is best, but think of this. "When banks compete, you win." Let the government and private organizations compete for the photo opportunities that supporting the Amateur Service might bring. Let us be ready to supply equipment, expertise and operators. Let us not present ourselves as needy, but demonstrate our hobby as a valuable asset in our communities. And may we always be a humble, yet proud group of people. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Maratrac As A Repeater Transmitter?
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Randy Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the repost but I can't believe no one is using a Maratrac as a repeater transmitter. I have a Maratrac and don't know whether to use it as my repeater transmitter or opt for a Mitrek instead. Any opinions? Randy WB0VHB I am sure they will work great as a transmitter,I used a Kenwood TK-840 as my repeater transmitter for over ayear and it work great for meBobby/N2BR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE
I was thinking the MLS2 used a pc and serial cable and the MLS1 used a suitcase. Will either go to 52.525? ssb On 2/24/06, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also be programmed with a PC. That's how I do it. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Steve, I have a GE MLS (aka MLS 1, once the MLS II came out) radio, and it has a PROM that must be programmed on a PROM burner. It does not use an EEPROM, so each change requires a new PROM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ultra ComShack 64 Controller
I still use mine,if you need to no any thing let me no, also have paper work if you need it - Original Message - From: Steve B. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ultra ComShack 64 Controller Hi All,I recently acquired this repeater controller. It'sdesigned to attach to the Commodore 64 computer andlooks like it has quite a few options. My kit ofboards here seems to have most of the options. Anyoneout there using this one still? It was made byEngineering Consulting in Brea, CA. I'm interested inany useful info on this controller.Thanks,Steve/WA6OXN__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Maratrac As A Repeater Transmitter?
Randy, I doubt that you will get many responses on using any synthesized modern radio, as most won't duplex, and there isn't really any technical difficulties in using two radio sets for repeater operation. That being said, the Maratrac would make a good transmitter, but more so a better receiver. The squelch circuitry in the Maratrac is very good. Not as good as a Micor, but way better than the Mastr II. Two of them would make a very nice repeater, IMHO. Kevin Custer Randy Nelson wrote: Sorry for the repost but I can't believe no one is using a Maratrac as a repeater transmitter. I have a Maratrac and don't know whether to use it as my repeater transmitter or opt for a Mitrek instead. Any opinions? Randy WB0VHB Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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i have a maratrac drawer unit t73xta7da2bk i looked it up on the batwing labs board and am not understanding the code. how many channels is this radio? looks to be a vhf hi band to me. also another question the uhf maratrac and gm 400 are they the same? if so im interpeting batwing to say the uhf maratrac will not work on uhf ham frequencies without major work?? could some one email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if they know the answers to these questions. thanks david YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] DB-4087 Duplexer
Hi All, I have a DB-4087 duplexer (Decibel Products), and was wondering if anyone might by chance have a copy of the literature that goes with this model. I have already tried DB Products and they no longer have any of the documentation, or so they said. This duplexer is quite old... guessing mid 1980's generation. It is UHF, was used at 463.7 / 468.7mhz. I found a site that has tons of literature/discriptions/owners manuals about duplexers, but this model is not there. Anyone have any help, or perhaps using one? As always Tnx, Mike, KO9I Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden SMH 400G
Scott, Ever run into Larry Temenoff there? Met him at Magnavox while doing microwave contract work with Loral Terracom - think his call is KB9OS. May be in Auburn now. Steve NU5D formerly N5OEM and KA5AMI. On 2/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an AMX-500c programmer here... Maybe I can help? Scott ka9sln Fort Wayne in IRLP 8380 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Forwarded message -- From: drwoolweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:09:08 - Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Uniden SMH 400G Does anyone have a programmer for a SMH 400G? Thanks de David Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MastrIII part needed
I am very sorry. New London Technology would be my next stop. How about the power supply and the rest of the modules in the shelf? Same condition? Steve NU5D. On 2/25/06, Larry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it kinda sat submerged in nasty water for a few weeks after hurricane katrina. I'm not sure, but I don't think doing a reset will hel much at this time. Thanks anyway, though. If I could even get a non functioning board that is not corroded the way this one is, I can probably fix it. Larry KE4PCZ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:56:38 -0600 From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MastrIII part needed Larry, Is the module destroyed? Seems like these are in the $2K price range. They can be repaired, and I have resurected a non functioning one doing a reset. What is the nature of your failure? Steve NU5D On 2/24/06, Larry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, looking for a system control module p/n 19D902590G3 or G6 Anyone have one reasonable?? Larry Williams KE4PCZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Maratrac As A Repeater Transmitter?
Mike, I would then assume you would recommend selling the Maratrac and using the procedes to buy what? Which Motorola radio in a similar price range would be your choice? I can't afford a MTR2000 or similar repeater but rather converting a high power mobile into repeater service with proper cooling of course. Randy WB0VHB Mike Morris wrote: At 01:32 PM 2/25/06, you wrote: Sorry for the repost but I can't believe no one is using a Maratrac as a repeater transmitter. I have a Maratrac and don't know whether to use it as my repeater transmitter or opt for a Mitrek instead. Any opinions? Randy WB0VHB Think of a Maratrac as a 100w trunk mount 99-channel Maxtrac. It has all of the problems that a synthesized low duty cycle mobile radio would have in repeater duty, plus a potential cooling problem. If you can live with a low duty cycle, and noisy sidebands, I guess it would work, but personally I'd keep the Maratrac as a mobile and use something made for the job. Mike WA6ILQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-4087 Duplexer
The DB-4087 is a notch only mobile duplexer. Frequency range: 450-512 MHz Frequency Separation: 5 MHz or more Maximum power input: 100 Watts Insertion loss: 0.7 dB [TX-ANT RX-ANT] Isolation: 50 dB Maximum VSWR: 1.5 to 1 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola part number?
Thanks Eric. That's exactly the information I was looking for. Appreciate it! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:31 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola part number? Mark, The connector you need is old Molex #1991-3R1, which is the new Molex #19-09-1032. You will also need the standard Molex .093 socket crimp contacts. If you can't find the connectors elsewhere, you can still get them at Motorola Parts for about $ 1.25 each. I don't know of any reliable or consistent way to cross Motorola numbers to commercial numbers. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY --- N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a place where I can get a real world part number if I input a Motorola part number? I'm looking for the 3-pin Molex type connector that goes on the end of the power cabling for the SpectraTAC chassis Motorola Part #: 28-83176L01 (P101 - Plug, 3-pin, male) I need to fab up some power cables, and I don't want to have to go through four drawers (three receivers and one comparator) changing all the input and interconnect plugs. Thanks! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Parkinson Repeater Controller
Re: Parkinson Repeater Controller If anyone in the group has or knows a bit about the Parkinson MVP Repeater Controller... would you please contact me off the list direct? If you wouldn't mind talking about it a bit, I'd just like to ask some basic questions and hear what you think about it. I've downloaded the manual information from the Repeater Builder Web page. Anyone got a real circuit diagram for it? thanks a mucho, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?
There were several guys who did major conversions of these amps for use in the ham band and at much higher power for use with EME. All based on the initial work done by KL7FB, Chris. Not for the faint-hearted though. The thing was basically gutted and a new set of sockets and tubes installed (2 x 8877). Plate line was modified, and the changes were noted and documented by several of the the users. To run the thing up to see what it would do at full power, special terminations and power supplies were brought in. Somewhere around 6KW out was noted. But normal use of the amp was on much smaller and in some cases, portable power supplies that would yield full legal power. Not much strain on the amp at that level and those expensive tubes will last forever. Last I heard there were six or seven of the things in use. There was quite a bit of documentation on the web at one time. Should still be out there. Look for KL7FB or dual 8877 EME amp. This conversion would definately take care of the weak spots in your repeater coverage! All you would need would be several remote receiver sites to balance it out. ;) KL7FZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Micor 375 Watt station that has the TLD5082 high power PA. I have a fresh set of tubes in the station and on a commercial frequency (156.???) it makes good power, about 400 watts or so.. I have tried to get it to tune up on a 147.??? ham frequency but to no avail. I have heard of these going down with no problem but this one just won't do it. I of course checked MOL to see if the needed parts were available to convert it to the ham band (TLD5081) but they are NLA... Has anyone converted one of these to the ham band and if so what parts did you change? According to the manual the grid tuning cap and some other assorted coils are needed, but I would like to hear from someone that has made one of these work in the ham band... Thanks for your time! Bryon K0BSJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?
Does the 40 Watt exciter make on frequency power? Was it working properly before you changed tubes and moved frequency? I used a Kenwood TKR720 to drive the PA on one of these for several years with the TKR running about 25 Watts. Steve NU5D On 2/22/06, Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Micor 375 Watt station that has the TLD5082 high power PA. I have a fresh set of tubes in the station and on a commercial frequency (156.???) it makes good power, about 400 watts or so.. I have tried to get it to tune up on a 147.??? ham frequency but to no avail. I have heard of these going down with no problem but this one just won't do it. I of course checked MOL to see if the needed parts were available to convert it to the ham band (TLD5081) but they are NLA... Has anyone converted one of these to the ham band and if so what parts did you change? According to the manual the grid tuning cap and some other assorted coils are needed, but I would like to hear from someone that has made one of these work in the ham band... Thanks for your time! Bryon K0BSJ Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?
That highly-modified Motorola MICOR amp would definitely fill in some of those dead spots in a repeater's coverage area! However, most of us would never be able to get a Repeater coordinated through our local coordination councils for that kind of output power. Mine is coordinated for 250 Watts, but a pair of 8877's probably couldn't be throttled back to that kind of QRP power. ALPHA 77SX HF amplifiers use a pair of 8877's, and they will do 5000+ watts output no problem. But a pair of 8877's are VERY expensive! I have plenty of new, spare 8560A tubes, which is what the original VHF MICOR 250-Watt PA deck uses. I wonder if that KL7FB amp conversion article would give the plate line change info so that the original 8560 tubes could be used on 2-Meters? If anyone finds a link to the original article, please post it. I was able to find a web page with pictures of this KL7FB Motorola amplifier 8877's conversion, which makes reference to the original article, wherever it was published: http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3kh/amplifiers.html Unfortunately, so far I've not been able to find the original article that he mentions. Thanks, LJ -Original Message- From: kl7fz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 26, 2006 9:16 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question? There were several guys who did major conversions of these amps for use in the ham band and at much higher power for use with EME. All based on the initial work done by KL7FB, Chris. Not for the faint-hearted though. The thing was basically gutted and a new set of sockets and tubes installed (2 x 8877). Plate line was modified, and the changes were noted and documented by several of the the users. To run the thing up to see what it would do at full power, special terminations and power supplies were brought in. Somewhere around 6KW out was noted. But normal use of the amp was on much smaller and in some cases, portable power supplies that would yield full legal power. Not much strain on the amp at that level and those expensive tubes will last forever. Last I heard there were six or seven of the things in use. There was quite a bit of documentation on the web at one time. Should still be out there. Look for KL7FB or dual 8877 EME amp. This conversion would definately take care of the weak spots in your repeater coverage! All you would need would be several remote receiver sites to balance it out. ;) KL7FZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Micor 375 Watt station that has the TLD5082 high power PA. I have a fresh set of tubes in the station and on a commercial frequency (156.???) it makes good power, about 400 watts or so.. I have tried to get it to tune up on a 147.??? ham frequency but to no avail. I have heard of these going down with no problem but this one just won't do it. I of course checked MOL to see if the needed parts were available to convert it to the ham band (TLD5081) but they are NLA... Has anyone converted one of these to the ham band and if so what parts did you change? According to the manual the grid tuning cap and some other assorted coils are needed, but I would like to hear from someone that has made one of these work in the ham band... Thanks for your time! Bryon K0BSJ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams!!!!
Iagree...and in this day of digital cameras, computers and the Internet, I think we should start keeping records of our contributions to the public good welfare. With all this technology, there's really no excuse for keeping us anonymous. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 February, 2006 07:17 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams Thanks for posting this, Dick. What those individuals did should not be forgotten. But if the efforts of Hams are worthy of praise, then are they not worthy of publicity? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of publicity, then are they not worthy of support? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of support, who then will take advantage of that opportunity? Is that not a question yet to be answered? Often, Hams are viewed by government and private organizations as liabilities with nothing to add. While this may be superficially arguable, at the end of the day it is not likely factual. Some assets and services are just difficult to put a price on.Photo opportunities may be all we have to offer in exchange for what we need to occasionally provide an emergency communications system. Furthermore, I do not believe that proof of what we offer is enough for some people so maybe we should not take that course. What course do we take? I really don't know what is best, but think of this. "When banks compete, you win." Let the government and private organizations compete for the photo opportunities that supporting the Amateur Service might bring. Let us be ready to supply equipment, expertise and operators. Let us not present ourselves as needy, but demonstrate our hobby as a valuable asset in our communities. And may we always be a humble, yet proud group of people. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Ham radio has received a LOT of publicity as a result of our contributions to Katrina relief. Hams are in the news regularly for a variety of things we do. Of course, we could always use more. The ARRL has a Field Organization operation dedicated to ham radio PR. You can learn about it at: http://www.arrl.org/pio/ 73, Gary KN4AQ PIO, North Carolina (among other things) At 02:19 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: I agree...and in this day of digital cameras, computers and the Internet, I think we should start keeping records of our contributions to the public good welfare. With all this technology, there's really no excuse for keeping us anonymous. 73, Dick W1NMZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 February, 2006 07:17 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Praise for the hams Thanks for posting this, Dick. What those individuals did should not be forgotten. But if the efforts of Hams are worthy of praise, then are they not worthy of publicity? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of publicity, then are they not worthy of support? If the efforts of Hams are worthy of support, who then will take advantage of that opportunity? Is that not a question yet to be answered? Often, Hams are viewed by government and private organizations as liabilities with nothing to add. While this may be superficially arguable, at the end of the day it is not likely factual. Some assets and services are just difficult to put a price on. Photo opportunities may be all we have to offer in exchange for what we need to occasionally provide an emergency communications system. Furthermore, I do not believe that proof of what we offer is enough for some people so maybe we should not take that course. What course do we take? I really don't know what is best, but think of this. When banks compete, you win. Let the government and private organizations compete for the photo opportunities that supporting the Amateur Service might bring. Let us be ready to supply equipment, expertise and operators. Let us not present ourselves as needy, but demonstrate our hobby as a valuable asset in our communities. And may we always be a humble, yet proud group of people. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MLS MLS-2 on 6 Meters (was: MLS1 GE)
Hi Steve, Yes, both the MLS and MLS-2's will go upto 6 Meters. Might need a wee bit of tuning touch-up for full spec, but they will go to six without too much fuss. On the MLS using the TQ-2310 suitcase, use the INSERT command instead of ENTER to enter in a ham frequency. On the MLS-2 using dos software, use CTRL-E instead of a TAB (or ENTER) to enter in a ham frequency. In the case of 10 meters, the radios cover down to 29.0 MHz out-of- the-box and no programming tricks needed. 73, Mark Cobbeldick, KB4CVN Monroe, VA --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking the MLS2 used a pc and serial cable and the MLS1 used a suitcase. Will either go to 52.525? ssb On 2/24/06, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also be programmed with a PC. That's how I do it. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Steve, I have a GE MLS (aka MLS 1, once the MLS II came out) radio, and it has a PROM that must be programmed on a PROM burner. It does not use an EEPROM, so each change requires a new PROM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?
I think this is the first time I have seen 250 Watts, 8877's, and QRP all used in the same sentence. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 01:16:23 PM CST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] That highly-modified Motorola MICOR amp would definitely fill in some of those dead spots in a repeater's coverage area! However, most of us would never be able to get a Repeater coordinated through our local coordination councils for that kind of output power. Mine is coordinated for 250 Watts, but a pair of 8877's probably couldn't be throttled back to that kind of QRP power. ALPHA 77SX HF amplifiers use a pair of 8877's, and they will do 5000+ watts output no problem. But a pair of 8877's are VERY expensive! SNIP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Gary, Maybe down south there has been a plethora of publicity, but up north here we seldom heard of the ham efforts, if at all. Its as if its another world. All the press is showing up here is how New Orleans hasnt overcome their problems yet. They dont even talk much about Biloxi or Gulfport just New Orleans... Its great to see and know that hams came together after all, thats one of the reasons were allowed such latitude with spectrum, etc. And public service is one of the reasons I got involved in ham radio. But the real story of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to the masses - at least in my part of the country. Just my 2¢ worth... Mark N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Pearce KN4AQ Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Ham radio has received a LOT of publicity as a result of our contributions to Katrina relief. Hams are in the news regularly for a variety of things we do. Of course, we could always use more. The ARRL has a Field Organization operation dedicated to ham radio PR. You can learn about it at: http://www.arrl.org/pio/ 73, Gary KN4AQ PIO, North Carolina (among other things) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
The good news is that we our thing so well and so efficiently that people think their tax-supported comm infrastructure works just fine. The bad news is...same thing. We need to blow our own horn more often. Dick - Original Message - From: N9WYS To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 26 February, 2006 12:39 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Gary,Maybe down south there has been a plethora of publicity, but up north herewe seldom heard of the ham efforts, if at all. It's as if its anotherworld. All the press is showing up here is how New Orleans hasn't overcometheir problems yet. They don't even talk much about Biloxi or Gulfport -just New Orleans...It's great to see and know that hams came together - after all, that's oneof the reasons we're allowed such "latitude" with spectrum, etc. And publicservice is one of the reasons I got involved in ham radio. But the realstory of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to themasses - at least in my part of the country.Just my 2¢ worth...Mark - N9WYSFrom: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Pearce KN4AQSent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public InformationHam radio has received a LOT of publicity as a result of our contributionsto Katrina relief. Hams are in the news regularly for a variety of thingswe do. Of course, we could always use more.The ARRL has a Field Organization operation dedicated to ham radio PR. Youcan learn about it at:http://www.arrl.org/pio/73,Gary KN4AQPIO, North Carolina(among other things)Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
- Original Message - From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe down south there has been a plethora of publicity, but up north here we seldom heard of the ham efforts, if at all. It's as if its another world. All the press is showing up here is how New Orleans hasn't overcome their problems yet. They don't even talk much about Biloxi or Gulfport - just New Orleans... National Public Radio did a piece last Friday on people in Mississippi that were affected much more by Hurricane Rita than Katrira. Surge tides carried salt water up to 20 miles inland, ruining the ground so badly that even grass won't grow on it, let alone crops. It's great to see and know that hams came together - after all, that's one of the reasons we're allowed such latitude with spectrum, etc. And public service is one of the reasons I got involved in ham radio. But the real story of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to the masses - at least in my part of the country. Just as people in the South can't comprehend a massive snow- and ice- storm that paralyzes parts of the country for days and weeks at a time. :-( And there have been some Nor'Easters in the past that were pretty high on the scale, but until someone's experienced it, they have no frame of reference to compare it to. I guess I have a well-rounded experience level myself... I've been in a bad ice storm where nothing moved for a week (Tulsa, OK, 1968), and I've survived Hurricane Andrew (Miami, 1992). So, until everyone walks in someone else's moccassins, we will always have a big load of indifference and apathy... I don't know, and I don't care! Just my 2¢ worth... What do you type in for the cent? I hold ALT and type in 0216 to get the Ø character. (need to remember the expanded ASCII character set) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Ray, I cheat! :-) I use the character map, select the character I want and copy it into the text. I do the same when I need to use the micro symbol for microvolts, etc. (µv) It can be found in Start Programs Accessories System Tools... Mark N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Brown Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Just my 2¢ worth... What do you type in for the cent? I hold ALT and type in 0216 to get the Ø character. (need to remember the expanded ASCII character set) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
I use the micro character a lot... alt-230 = µ can't seem tp remember the degrees symbol right now though... no mind, NASCAR is on! mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N9WYS Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Ray, I cheat! :-) I use the character map, select the character I want and copy it into the text. I do the same when I need to use the micro symbol for microvolts, etc. (µv) It can be found in Start Programs Accessories System Tools... Mark N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Brown Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Just my 2¢ worth... What do you type in for the cent? I hold ALT and type in 0216 to get the Ø character. (need to remember the expanded ASCII character set) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Parkinson Repeater Controller
Skipp; For openers it has no identifier I do have specific knowledge of them, we used many of them over the years The TS32 decode time was the biggest Achilles heel.. Doug KD8B At 12:47 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: Re: Parkinson Repeater Controller If anyone in the group has or knows a bit about the Parkinson MVP Repeater Controller... would you please contact me off the list direct? If you wouldn't mind talking about it a bit, I'd just like to ask some basic questions and hear what you think about it. I've downloaded the manual information from the Repeater Builder Web page. Anyone got a real circuit diagram for it? thanks a mucho, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE
I repeat: There is PC software and a RIB that is used to program the MLS-I. Yes, the suitcase can be used to program it, too, but so can a PC. I've programmed several without the suitcase. In fact, I think the PLS portable is the only programmable GE radio that requires the suitcase. The S-950 control head might, too, I think. Joe M. Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: I was thinking the MLS2 used a pc and serial cable and the MLS1 used a suitcase. Will either go to 52.525? ssb On 2/24/06, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also be programmed with a PC. That's how I do it. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Steve, I have a GE MLS (aka MLS 1, once the MLS II came out) radio, and it has a PROM that must be programmed on a PROM burner. It does not use an EEPROM, so each change requires a new PROM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE
Joe M; I do not believe there has ever been a factory MLS 1 programming tool for PC based programming.. While you can program a MLS 2 with the PC based MLS software, that software does not talk to an MLS1 You may be able to write a suitable eprom with an pc prom burning tool set, that is another matter ( especially cloning) , or if someone wrote a tool outside the factoryone may exist... but not to my knowledge. I think if you know of something you need to tell us what, not just keep claiming it's existence.Your comments are diametrically opposed with the experiences of many GE techs who have been working on MLS1's and 2's for the last 10- 20 years.. As far as the radios requiring the suitcase, only the MPD/MPA CONV and Rangr/Delta series had factory PC support and Suitcase support maybe MVS and MCS but I think those were only in PC support... ALL the TMX 84/86xx series, TMX 82/83/85xx series, Corona,Centura and Classic Series, CMX series, as well TPX, MPX, S950/990 ( in stock GE form) Phoenix S,SX, PSX-SE and MLS1 required the suitcase There are NOW tools to write to the Phoenix S,SX, Delta Rangr etc...based on Xicor X2212 eeprom chip series available. But not from GE et-al. The Factory MLS1 memory device was an eeprom... not a prom although it was pin compatible with a uv prom.2x16 series as I recall factory was 2816, could be replaced with 2716. If you have specific info otherwise it is news to me and many of us here who have never heard of it. Doug KD8B At 05:53 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: I repeat: There is PC software and a RIB that is used to program the MLS-I. Yes, the suitcase can be used to program it, too, but so can a PC. I've programmed several without the suitcase. In fact, I think the PLS portable is the only programmable GE radio that requires the suitcase. The S-950 control head might, too, I think. Joe M. Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: I was thinking the MLS2 used a pc and serial cable and the MLS1 used a suitcase. Will either go to 52.525? ssb On 2/24/06, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also be programmed with a PC. That's how I do it. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Steve, I have a GE MLS (aka MLS 1, once the MLS II came out) radio, and it has a PROM that must be programmed on a PROM burner. It does not use an EEPROM, so each change requires a new PROM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the ranks, that's cvertainly it. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Yep, if you read the appendices, there was one shelter that the red cross refused to man because it didn't have a dehumidifier... pretty sad when there are lives on the line and yes, I am tired of the ads as well.. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the ranks, that's cvertainly it. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MastrIII part needed
I think we have everything else working, or at least it tries to. Without the control module, can't tell for absolutely sure. Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:21:19 -0600 From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MastrIII part needed I am very sorry. New London Technology would be my next stop. How about the power supply and the rest of the modules in the shelf? Same condition? Steve NU5D. On 2/25/06, Larry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it kinda sat submerged in nasty water for a few weeks after hurricane katrina. I'm not sure, but I don't think doing a reset will hel much at this time. Thanks anyway, though. If I could even get a non functioning board that is not corroded the way this one is, I can probably fix it. Larry KE4PCZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
My bad... I checked my notes.. page 363 of the main report, lower right hand corner. Florida state disaster team set up a shelter, but the Red Cross said it was unsafe and declined to run it.64 In Pearlington, the Red Cross declined to operate one shelter because it lacked a dehumidifer.65 The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans. The red cross continues to thrive. I had little respect for them since I spent time at the Pentagon... after being told we don't need you, give us your radios. I mean no dis-respect, as I am sure all local chapters are different. I feel certain many folks work hard, but the national leadership lacks much in the way of people skills. On the other hand, a local chapter, holds the amatuer community in very high regard. The higher you go up the chain, seems the more it is about the title, and not the mission. Seems to be the way of all politicians.. I, for instance, am having a lot of greif from one of the head-nuts at DHS. I nicknamed him Ego-the-hut the other day... LOL! Brought new meaning to oscillation... Now.. back to radio stuff ;-) 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Perryman Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:08 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Yep, if you read the appendices, there was one shelter that the red cross refused to man because it didn't have a dehumidifier... pretty sad when there are lives on the line and yes, I am tired of the ads as well.. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the ranks, that's cvertainly it. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE
I never said it was an OEM product. It was made by Niles and was recommended by our GE Service Rep when we were a 5-star GE dealer and manufacturer's rep, so I'm one of those who have been working on MLS1's and 2's for the last 10- 20 years... Anyone GE tech who DOESN'T know about this are the ones I would question. As I said, I've done this with a number of MLS-Is - including the 10M unit sitting on my desk. There is software for the PC, a radio interface box, and a cable that goes to the radio. Like the suitcase, good luck finding the hardware since it is so old. Although, it is likely far easier to build a RIB than the suitcase. (no, I don't have the schematics for it) There was never any real presence on 800 in my area, so I'm not familiar with the TMX/CMX/TPX/MPX, but I have programmed many Phoenix S,SX, PSX-SE and MLS1 (as well as the PSX-Scan) units with the PC as well as Delta-Ss, Delta-SXs, and RANGRs. Again, I recall only the PLS units needing the suitcase, and perhaps the S-950. (with the aforementioned disclaimer about 800 units) No cobbling or EEPROM programming hacks - just PC software with the RIB and cable to program the units exactly as nearly every radio since then has been programmed. There are even links (or used to be) on the Hall web site. If I recall correctly, that is http://www.hallelectronics.com/ Joe M. Doug Bade wrote: Joe M; I do not believe there has ever been a factory MLS 1 programming tool for PC based programming.. While you can program a MLS 2 with the PC based MLS software, that software does not talk to an MLS1 You may be able to write a suitable eprom with an pc prom burning tool set, that is another matter ( especially cloning) , or if someone wrote a tool outside the factoryone may exist... but not to my knowledge. I think if you know of something you need to tell us what, not just keep claiming it's existence.Your comments are diametrically opposed with the experiences of many GE techs who have been working on MLS1's and 2's for the last 10- 20 years.. As far as the radios requiring the suitcase, only the MPD/MPA CONV and Rangr/Delta series had factory PC support and Suitcase support maybe MVS and MCS but I think those were only in PC support... ALL the TMX 84/86xx series, TMX 82/83/85xx series, Corona,Centura and Classic Series, CMX series, as well TPX, MPX, S950/990 ( in stock GE form) Phoenix S,SX, PSX-SE and MLS1 required the suitcase There are NOW tools to write to the Phoenix S,SX, Delta Rangr etc...based on Xicor X2212 eeprom chip series available. But not from GE et-al. The Factory MLS1 memory device was an eeprom... not a prom although it was pin compatible with a uv prom.2x16 series as I recall factory was 2816, could be replaced with 2716. If you have specific info otherwise it is news to me and many of us here who have never heard of it. Doug KD8B At 05:53 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: I repeat: There is PC software and a RIB that is used to program the MLS-I. Yes, the suitcase can be used to program it, too, but so can a PC. I've programmed several without the suitcase. In fact, I think the PLS portable is the only programmable GE radio that requires the suitcase. The S-950 control head might, too, I think. Joe M. Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: I was thinking the MLS2 used a pc and serial cable and the MLS1 used a suitcase. Will either go to 52.525? ssb On 2/24/06, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also be programmed with a PC. That's how I do it. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Steve, I have a GE MLS (aka MLS 1, once the MLS II came out) radio, and it has a PROM that must be programmed on a PROM burner. It does not use an EEPROM, so each change requires a new PROM. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
Well since I have been through the hurricanes of 2004 where I suffered multiple hits I can personally say that the ONLY organization that had it all together was the Red Cross! I saw a community of 5000 homes where the average age is over 61 become devastated. My home for one, was so badly damaged that my house was considered a constructive total loss. The Red cross not only cooked meals but also drove through the community delivering food and water to all the people along with the local sheriffs! Sure FEMA, President Bush, Governor Bush and their merry crowd showed up and said oh we are so sorry and took the fast plane out! All they did was cause services to cease for security until they left! FEMA was a loss then as well as any of the other so called organizations that are based around here! We were lucky in some ways because we happen to be under the 60 mark and only had one choice; Rebuild by ourselves! As people are finding out all over there is no golden charity except the Governments favorite Business Charities! FEMA arranged to remove the debris from the community and paid large amounts to some . I drove this community for weeks fixing phones in peoples homes for free! We even drove up 30 miles to a Walgreen's and bought dozens of cheap $5.00 phones to give people because many older (and younger) people did not understand that wireless and many fancy phones don't work without power! Hmm Bell South could not get anyone out for at least 1 to 2 months! What was payment to be ? Make a donation to the Red Cross because they were feeding us as I drove around fixing tires on my car as I went! My other half was handling calls in from the community office where people would call in about a phone out as well as performing ring back tests! Was I alone? No! A bunch of people did all sorts of things that helped in one way or another! Sheriffs driving to certain homes that they knew of people with no power or car bringing water! I ran out of phone wire and someone heard about it and within 3 hours a 1000' box of wire appeared! (I did not ask from where) A lot of people survived because of the Red Cross bringing in food for those 3 or 4 weeks of no power. No power translates to no food, water, No Air, No refrigeration, No Gasoline! No Stores! Ever seen a 80 year old try to figure out how to use a MRE? I have! That was our Governments answer to feed people! We can criticize all we want, but what remedy do you have? Government talks about how we need all sorts of faith based and other agencies and that simply means everyone has a hand out for the money! So why should the Red Cross be any different? Be happy that one of those older couples here in Barefoot Bay , Florida was not your Grandfather,Grandmother,Father, or Mother! Criticism is good as long as it is constructive ! If it is broke, help fix it ! Yes sometimes management changes are good and can be done! Hope you never have to go through something like this and we, myself and my significant other, feel very lucky because we had some insurance and even though we are both disabled: we were able to rebuild in a year and a half! Over 400 homes have been removed! Many of the people dealing with the aftermath of Katrina have nothing! No insurance to help rebuild, No FEMA, and an overtaxed charity system! To them our hearts go out to! Want to see what a hurricane does then go to http://cus2.net/steve and you will see what a hurricane and tornados do! I guess I went way over board here and I apologize to the moderator in advance but I have been there ! AND BACK! Be part of the solution not part of the problem! Oh and I am very happy to say I now have some time for ham radio again! It will take some time as a lot of my equipment was destroyed. But you know we are happy to have a home with hot food and running water! Steve N4YZA - Original Message - From: Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information Yep, if you read the appendices, there was one shelter that the red cross refused to man because it didn't have a dehumidifier... pretty sad when there are lives on the line and yes, I am tired of the ads as well.. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mch Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the
[Repeater-Builder] Midland Question
Does anyone have experience using the Midland 70-530B or like radios as temporary emergency repeaters or as link radios? I have a bunch and am trying to decide if they're worth fooling with...Thank you!Mike SimsDanville/Boyle Co. Emergency ManagementKY District 12 Hazardous Materials Response TeamDistrict 12 ARES® CoordinatorBoyle Co., KY ARES® Emergency CoordinatorMercer Co. EM EOC CommunicationsPresident, Wilderness Road Amateur Radio Club YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio?
Has anyone ever used a handheld whip antenna for their mobile radio used as a base? I've seen this setup used a few places, and it worked great, but it was on UHF. A simple 90 degree Mini-UHF to BNC-F, BNC-M on the antenna. I tried this (on our VHF Radio) and it seems to either shut-down the radio or barely get any signal out. Is there any secret to this or a certain antenna type that needs to be used? ie. Base-loaded or Helical Whip.Thanks for any input! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
At 08:28 PM 2006-02-26 -0500, you wrote: page 363 of the main report, lower right hand corner. Florida state disaster team set up a shelter, but the Red Cross said it was unsafe and declined to run it.64 In Pearlington, the Red Cross declined to operate one shelter because it lacked a dehumidifer.65 The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans. Do you have a URL for this report? The PDF file at http://www.whitehouse.gov/reports/katrina-lessons-learned/ only goes to page 217. And I can't find such words as Pearlington or not come back Tony Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need M1225 4 Channel UHF 40 watt 450-470 Code plug
Thanks Mark But all i got was something about an address book with your Name on it. If you have a code Plug will you try again i Have V.3.1 software. no I backed it up but never put it on a CD and my computer crashed and i lost it and i have an code plug Error and need to reload one. Thanks Freddy"Mark A. Holman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it you did not back up your original data to a floppy or CD yeouch !ag4uw wrote: Can anyone help me??? I need a Code Plug for a M1225 UHF 4 Channel 40 watt 450-470 band split are how to fix Code Plug Error 52. need to get my Link back up and going. Thanks Freddy Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- MZbegin:vcardfn:Mark A. Holmann:Holman;Mark A.email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]title:Webmaster, IT Studentnote;quoted-printable:IT, Student Member IEEE, Life Member ARRL, Assoc. Member SBE, CRO, ARRL=VE=0D=0A=Welcome to the Snowy stuff of Michigan=0D=0A=x-mozilla-html:TRUEurl:http://www.ab8ru.orgversion:2.1end:vcard Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] A sad story
It all started when we went up to replace a failing antenna, and a mess of adaptors.. The antenna is a GP-9 that had some water in it, and was slowly turning into a dummy load. I'd had the UHF system running into it through the band coupler with the VHF system, but I could see the output on both systems getting weaker, and I was worried about SWR into the UHF amp, so I commanded that system offline a couple weeks ago. Then I got the flu, and the weather was nasty.. Friday, with clearing weather and head, we went up, thinking that after we replaced the antenna and adaptor mess, we could put the uhf system online. Antenna replacement went well, and then I replaced the adaptor mess with the 6 cable I made from BNC male to N male, replacing a handful of adaptors that I'd kludged into the system originally, to make the distance and two 90 degree bends that were required. This is the adaptor mess that was getting hot. Now the new cable is in place, and that power that was getting turned into heat is getting delivered to the cans. But, something smells funny, and the interconnect cables between the cans are noticably warm. I need to go back up there, and pull the amp and cans, and see what's going on.. I'm just kind of disgusted. These are Wacoms, I don't have the exact model number in front of me, but if I remember right, they were rated for 150W or thereabouts. I had tuned them before, and everything was looking good, but it appears that when the adaptor chain wasn't in the picture sucking up power, I crossed some threshold and damaged the cans. Anyone seen something like this? What are my prospects of repairing these cans? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor 375 Watt TLD5082 question?
Steve and the group, The Micor had a power supply problem (low voltage ps) when it arrived. I fixed that problem and noticed it was low on output power, only putting out about 260 watts (only HA!).. I then re-tuned it on the original commercial frequency and it still made the same power. I then swapped out the tubes and re-tuned it and now big power... I then changed the exciter out for a ham band unit already tuned up and the driver PA made good power there as well but he final did not after several tuning attempts. The driver PA output is supposed to be set at 10 Watts according to the manual and that is what mine is set to. It made good power in the commercial at that drive so I see no need to overdrive the final... Hope this helps... Bryon K0BSJ At 12:08 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: Does the 40 Watt exciter make on frequency power? Was it working properly before you changed tubes and moved frequency? I used a Kenwood TKR720 to drive the PA on one of these for several years with the TKR running about 25 Watts. Steve NU5D On 2/22/06, Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Micor 375 Watt station that has the TLD5082 high power PA. I have a fresh set of tubes in the station and on a commercial frequency (156.???) it makes good power, about 400 watts or so.. I have tried to get it to tune up on a 147.??? ham frequency but to no avail. I have heard of these going down with no problem but this one just won't do it. I of course checked MOL to see if the needed parts were available to convert it to the ham band (TLD5081) but they are NLA... Has anyone converted one of these to the ham band and if so what parts did you change? According to the manual the grid tuning cap and some other assorted coils are needed, but I would like to hear from someone that has made one of these work in the ham band... Thanks for your time! Bryon K0BSJ Yahoo! Groups Links -- DE NU5D - Promote Amateur Radio Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE
Niles hardware has not been available for some time and as far as I ever saw, very few shops ever had their gear let alone the general public. Unless you have access to those schematics or more specifically Niles hardware it is of little value to even have the software available... Far more shops owned TQ2310's and as far as Lynchburg was concerned that was the only tools. At the time I suspected Lynchburg had a lot to do with why it stopped being produced although it happened quite quietly...No one ever said why they stopped My recollection of what I did see of Niles gear would make it difficult if not impossible to reverse engineer. As I recall they had some proprietary technology which precluded duplication. It was long ago and as noted really irrelevant. The fact it was PC based and did or could have been used for MLS1 programming is of little value today to people who are asking how to program these radios Useful answers are by using a TQ2310, or by cloning a known good eeprom into another known good prom, eprom or eeprom using commonly available tools in the eprom programming world, or asking someone with a TQ2310 to do it for them I am sorry you were not aware of the other multitudes of radio which were programmed with the TQ2310. As for the general amateur community, Niles software is of no foreseeable value so it's inclusion as possibility is not really relevant... What would be far more useful would be for someone to try to analyze the hex table in a MLS eprom and reverse engineer how to change the values to something useful. That was done for the Phoenix SX etc It would likely be more fruitful that trying to duplicate Niles hardware If you want to volunteer your Niles gear for analysis, I would be happy to try, but I think it is pointless ... Unless Niles folks will provide assistance... Doug KD8B At 08:06 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: I never said it was an OEM product. It was made by Niles and was recommended by our GE Service Rep when we were a 5-star GE dealer and manufacturer's rep, so I'm one of those who have been working on MLS1's and 2's for the last 10- 20 years... Anyone GE tech who DOESN'T know about this are the ones I would question. As I said, I've done this with a number of MLS-Is - including the 10M unit sitting on my desk. There is software for the PC, a radio interface box, and a cable that goes to the radio. Like the suitcase, good luck finding the hardware since it is so old. Although, it is likely far easier to build a RIB than the suitcase. (no, I don't have the schematics for it) There was never any real presence on 800 in my area, so I'm not familiar with the TMX/CMX/TPX/MPX, but I have programmed many Phoenix S,SX, PSX-SE and MLS1 (as well as the PSX-Scan) units with the PC as well as Delta-Ss, Delta-SXs, and RANGRs. Again, I recall only the PLS units needing the suitcase, and perhaps the S-950. (with the aforementioned disclaimer about 800 units) No cobbling or EEPROM programming hacks - just PC software with the RIB and cable to program the units exactly as nearly every radio since then has been programmed. There are even links (or used to be) on the Hall web site. If I recall correctly, that is http://www.hallelectronics.com/ Joe M. Doug Bade wrote: Joe M; I do not believe there has ever been a factory MLS 1 programming tool for PC based programming.. While you can program a MLS 2 with the PC based MLS software, that software does not talk to an MLS1 You may be able to write a suitable eprom with an pc prom burning tool set, that is another matter ( especially cloning) , or if someone wrote a tool outside the factoryone may exist... but not to my knowledge. I think if you know of something you need to tell us what, not just keep claiming it's existence.Your comments are diametrically opposed with the experiences of many GE techs who have been working on MLS1's and 2's for the last 10- 20 years.. As far as the radios requiring the suitcase, only the MPD/MPA CONV and Rangr/Delta series had factory PC support and Suitcase support maybe MVS and MCS but I think those were only in PC support... ALL the TMX 84/86xx series, TMX 82/83/85xx series, Corona,Centura and Classic Series, CMX series, as well TPX, MPX, S950/990 ( in stock GE form) Phoenix S,SX, PSX-SE and MLS1 required the suitcase There are NOW tools to write to the Phoenix S,SX, Delta Rangr etc...based on Xicor X2212 eeprom chip series available. But not from GE et-al. The Factory MLS1 memory device was an eeprom... not a prom although it was pin compatible with a uv prom.2x16 series as I recall factory was 2816, could be replaced with 2716. If you have specific info otherwise it is news to me and many of us here who
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
How much does a PSA cost to get aired on radio or TV? College radio stations usually do them for free just to have real world content. - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams - Public Information This is a little off topic, but with all the money spend on the Red Cross ads with respect to Katrina (is anyone NOT tired of those?), I asked my local ARRL Division Director why the ARRL is not spending the money promoting Ham Radio at least in less expensive print form (newspapers, magazines, Etc.). You want a way to increase the ranks, that's cvertainly it. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A sad story
Is it the interconnect cable that is heating or is it the can that is heating and transferring heat to the cable? I had one case of a Sinclair duplexor where one can was heating at least 20 deg warmer than the remaining 3 cans. It turned out to be a lossy ground connection where the center resonator attaches to the end of the can. Cleaning the mating surfaces solved the problem completely. That part of a can is where the RF current is maximum (voltage is minimum) and any resistance will cause excessive loss and heat. Just a possibility to consider. Burt VE2BMQ Dave VanHorn wrote: It all started when we went up to replace a failing antenna, and a mess of adaptors.. The antenna is a GP-9 that had some water in it, and was slowly turning into a dummy load. I'd had the UHF system running into it through the band coupler with the VHF system, but I could see the output on both systems getting weaker, and I was worried about SWR into the UHF amp, so I commanded that system offline a couple weeks ago. Then I got the flu, and the weather was nasty.. Friday, with clearing weather and head, we went up, thinking that after we replaced the antenna and adaptor mess, we could put the uhf system online. Antenna replacement went well, and then I replaced the adaptor mess with the 6 cable I made from BNC male to N male, replacing a handful of adaptors that I'd kludged into the system originally, to make the distance and two 90 degree bends that were required. This is the adaptor mess that was getting hot. Now the new cable is in place, and that power that was getting turned into heat is getting delivered to the cans. But, something smells funny, and the interconnect cables between the cans are noticably warm. I need to go back up there, and pull the amp and cans, and see what's going on.. I'm just kind of disgusted. These are Wacoms, I don't have the exact model number in front of me, but if I remember right, they were rated for 150W or thereabouts. I had tuned them before, and everything was looking good, but it appears that when the adaptor chain wasn't in the picture sucking up power, I crossed some threshold and damaged the cans. Anyone seen something like this? What are my prospects of repairing these cans? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] RE: Praise and publicity, PSA's and the ARRL
At 03:39 PM 2/26/2006, Mark N9WYS wrote: Gary, ... the real story of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to the masses - at least in my part of the country. Just my 2¢ worth... My appreciation to the list for tolerating this off-topic thread. Perhaps one or two list members will be prompted to learn about the PR efforts that already exist and do something themselves to help. It takes time to do more than peck off a post to a mailing list, but it's worth it. Here's some background and answers to the questions that flew by: Ham radio gets its biggest PR push from Field Day. Katrina may have been even bigger for us. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE saw it, remembered it, and appreciated it. THAT kind of recognition is reserved for a story as big as the hurricane itself, not our sidebar participation. Most ham PR is local. We see very little coverage on the ABC/CBS/NBC nightly news, or in the Time/Newsweek magazines. CNN and Fox have carried some ham stories. Delta's In-Flight magazine just had a great article on hams and Katrina. PSAs are free, but most stations run them at 2 AM, if they run them at all. The ARRL has PSA's available for you to try to place in your local media. It's worth a shot, even at 2 AM. www.arrl.org/pio. The ARRL has a new campaign in the works that's still being developed, so I can't say much about it yet. When it's released, it will take your help to get it spread around in your area. I'm tempted to lecture here because it's fun and expected: Does your area have a PIO? Do you know who he/she is? What they do? Do you help provide local PR material based on your activity? Do you think the ARRL should spend money like: a) the beer companies b) the car companies c) the cell phone companies (can you hear me now?) d) the drug companies to advertise ham radio? And now, hopefully, back to building repeaters 73, Gary KN4AQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio?
I obtained a mobile set-up mounted on a plywood board with such an antenna (UHF). However I did not get the opportunity to test the radio setup before it was taken out of service. From what I know though, it operated for a couple of years that way cant say how effectively, though. Id have to dig through the junk pile to find out which mobile radio it was that was even on the setup now... I'm thinking it was a Mitrek. All I remember for certain was that it was a Motorola, and it was interconnected to a PAC-RT. A poor mans repeater maybe?? Mark N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:53 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? Has anyone ever used a handheld whip antenna for their mobile radio used as a base? I've seen this setup used a few places, and it worked great, but it was on UHF. A simple 90 degree Mini-UHF to BNC-F, BNC-M on the antenna. I tried this (on our VHF Radio) and it seems to either shut-down the radio or barely get any signal out. Is there any secret to this or a certain antenna type that needs to be used? ie. Base-loaded or Helical Whip. Thanks for any input! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio?
I would not expect that setup to work very well. Most portable antennas are not very good matches to the output stage, and the portable radios are usually designed to handle wide SWR swings without complaining. The antenna impedance varies a lot as the radio is moved around the body of the user, inside vehicles, and in various angles to a wildly varying ground plane. When such an antenna is placed right on the back of a mobile radio, it is almost expected that the PA protection circuits will trigger on high SWR and/or reflected power. A rubber duck or whip antenna is not a very efficient or effective radiator for a base station. My suggestion is to use a 1/4 wave whip on a magnetic base with 12 feet or so of RG-58 cable, so that the antenna can be "remoted" from the operating position and placed on top of a nearby file cabinet or refrigerator. This provides a ground plane for the antenna and also puts some distance between it and the operator's head. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:53 PMTo: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? Has anyone ever used a handheld whip antenna for their mobile radio used as a base? I've seen this setup used a few places, and it worked great, but it was on UHF. A simple 90 degree Mini-UHF to BNC-F, BNC-M on the antenna. I tried this (on our VHF Radio) and it seems to either shut-down the radio or barely get any signal out. Is there any secret to this or a certain antenna type that needs to be used? ie. Base-loaded or Helical Whip.Thanks for any input! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] A sad story
Now the new cable is in place, and that power that was getting turned into heat is getting delivered to the cans. But, something smells funny, and the interconnect cables between the cans are noticably warm. How much power are you running into the cavities? I can't think of anything inside the cans that would smell funny with power applied unless there was really something very wrong with them (like a shorted capacitor). As a longshot, is there any chance that your PA is going spurious, which could a) cause excessive heat/loss in the cabling to the off-channel spurs creating high VSWR, and b) the smell could be a component failing in the PA, which could either be a victim of the oscillation, or the cause of the oscillation. These are Wacoms, I don't have the exact model number in front of me, but if I remember right, they were rated for 150W or thereabouts. I had tuned them before, and everything was looking good, but it appears that when the adaptor chain wasn't in the picture sucking up power, I crossed some threshold and damaged the cans. Or, the difference in cable length between the old conglomeration and the new patch cable has made the PA unhappy resulting in the spurious condition (again, this is a bit of a longshot, but a plausible explanation). --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Maratrac As A Repeater Transmitter?
At 07:31 AM 2/26/06, Randy WB0VHB wrote: Mike, I would then assume you would recommend selling the Maratrac Maybe, maybe not. I know several hams that have a commercial radio in their vehicle along with a Kenwood, Icom or Yaesu. The commercial radio has the favorite frequencies in it, and the other is for dialing around. Frequently the commercial is a trunk mount (and wives tend to give more approval to little boxes under the dash that have two easy to understand knobs than larger boxes with a dozen multifuction buttons). You may chose to keep the Maratrac and program it up on the local channels. and using the procedes to buy what? Which Motorola radio in a similar price range would be your choice? It might not be Motorola. I can't afford a MTR2000 or similar repeater but rather converting a high power mobile into repeater service with proper cooling of course. The MTR is probably the worst choice. The service info is relatively poor, and originally it was designed as a depot maintenance only item. The replacement module cost was serious sticker shock. It was, however a unit that was available on 220mhz from the factory (if you look at the sales literature and the manual the UHF model was orderable from 200-512Mhz). Mobiles in general are low duty cycle radios. Now, yes, I know that many mobiles live their lives as repeater transmitters and do so well, but I tend to think of a repeater as a machine that gets keyed up at the start of drive time (in the morning around 5am and evening around 3:30 to 4pm) and stays keyed until the end of drive time (around 9am and 6:30 to 7pm), plus maybe for random conversations during the day. As to which radio? Micor mobiles have a heat sink rated at 35w, and come in 25w, 45w, 60w and 90w. The 25w will do continuous duty, and the 45 will with a fan. GE Mastr IIs are huskier than the Micors, and the Kevin / Scott team have a better idea of their capabilities. Mitrek mobiles are 20-25% duty cycle and the book does not list a heat sink capability. I give a few ideas in the infamous Interfacing Guide (on the repeater-builder Mitrek page). I have heard of several throttled-back Maxtracs in repeater duty that have survived for several years. However I doubt that any Mitrek or Maxtrac transmitter would survive 7 hours a day 5 days a week continuous transmit for months on end as a primary repeater transmitter. I have seen many Micor and Mastr II stations (i.e. factory repeater configuration) do it with no problem. One relatively unknown jewel is the EF Johnson CR1010 repeater - one site near me has over 45 of them on VHF, UHF, 800 and 900 and they've been sitting there for years just percolating away. The building has six rows of six 7' open frame racks filed with them plus a collection of Micor, Mastr II and Mastr Pro gear. Talk to the used vendors - Telepath, is one. There is a list at http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/supplyindex.html See what they have in stock. A while back BroComm was liquidating the RCMP VHF equipment: MSR-2000s repeaters factory built on 136-150MHz for about $600 each (plus shipping). The manual cost on those was sticker shock: two manuals required, at about $60 each. Talk to Kevin and Scott at repeater-builder. They can deliver anything from a raw radio to a turnkey repeater. You have a lot of options. Do your research. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio?
http://www.centurion.com/home/ant2way/dr.asp Sorry right link to the product we use. Dakota Summerhawk -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? I would not expect that setup to work very well. Most portable antennas are not very good matches to the output stage, and the portable radios are usually designed to handle wide SWR swings without complaining. The antenna impedance varies a lot as the radio is moved around the body of the user, inside vehicles, and in various angles to a wildly varying ground plane. When such an antenna is placed right on the back of a mobile radio, it is almost expected that the PA protection circuits will trigger on high SWR and/or reflected power. A rubber duck or whip antenna is not a very efficient or effective radiator for a base station. My suggestion is to use a 1/4 wave whip on a magnetic base with 12 feet or so of RG-58 cable, so that the antenna can be remoted from the operating position and placed on top of a nearby file cabinet or refrigerator. This provides a ground plane for the antenna and also puts some distance between it and the operator's head. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:53 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? Has anyone ever used a handheld whip antenna for their mobile radio used as a base? I've seen this setup used a few places, and it worked great, but it was on UHF. A simple 90 degree Mini-UHF to BNC-F, BNC-M on the antenna. I tried this (on our VHF Radio) and it seems to either shut-down the radio or barely get any signal out. Is there any secret to this or a certain antenna type that needs to be used? ie. Base-loaded or Helical Whip. Thanks for any input! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio?
http://www.centurion.com/home/antenna_2way.asp They make a good hang over antenna that I use for SAR work with no problem. Might try that. Dakota Summerhawk -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? I would not expect that setup to work very well. Most portable antennas are not very good matches to the output stage, and the portable radios are usually designed to handle wide SWR swings without complaining. The antenna impedance varies a lot as the radio is moved around the body of the user, inside vehicles, and in various angles to a wildly varying ground plane. When such an antenna is placed right on the back of a mobile radio, it is almost expected that the PA protection circuits will trigger on high SWR and/or reflected power. A rubber duck or whip antenna is not a very efficient or effective radiator for a base station. My suggestion is to use a 1/4 wave whip on a magnetic base with 12 feet or so of RG-58 cable, so that the antenna can be remoted from the operating position and placed on top of a nearby file cabinet or refrigerator. This provides a ground plane for the antenna and also puts some distance between it and the operator's head. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:53 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Handheld antenna on a Mobile Radio? Has anyone ever used a handheld whip antenna for their mobile radio used as a base? I've seen this setup used a few places, and it worked great, but it was on UHF. A simple 90 degree Mini-UHF to BNC-F, BNC-M on the antenna. I tried this (on our VHF Radio) and it seems to either shut-down the radio or barely get any signal out. Is there any secret to this or a certain antenna type that needs to be used? ie. Base-loaded or Helical Whip. Thanks for any input! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
