[Repeater-Builder] Looking For: LB (6m) Micor Repeater PA (continuous duty)

2010-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I'm getting pretty close to putting up the machine, and I am looking for a 'real' PA for it. High split low band Micor PA so I can move it to 6 meters. Continuous duty. Already have the rest of the Micor components (RX, cards, exciter, etc). Please respond off-line. thanks! tim

[Repeater-Builder] Maxrad lowband mobile antenna

2010-08-29 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks, I was given a couple of LB mobile antennas, and I have moved them up to 6 meters. (I drilled a hole in the plastic case, and shorted out 2 turns (soldered across them). It seemed to tune right up to 52 mhz. However, I noticed that the position on the back deck of my car really made

[Repeater-Builder] Icom CY-F121S Repeater 'Controller'

2010-08-26 Thread tahrens301
Anybody know anything about the 'controller' that is in this repeater? The schematic is in the 'manual', but no real info. The Fan runs all the time, although it has a controlling input from the micro on the controller. Just wondering if it has any kind of intelligence built into it. Thanks,

[Repeater-Builder] AGM Batteries

2010-08-07 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I got a couple of the large AGM batteries for a solar installation, and was wondering if there is any condition that will lead them to vent inside the enclosure? They are sealed, but probably have one-way valves. Can I put the solar controller in the same enclosure? Figured some of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater receiver testing

2010-07-26 Thread tahrens301
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301 Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater receiver testing I have this lowband Micor receiver that I want to test for adjacent channel rejection. I have two calibrated

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater receiver testing

2010-07-25 Thread tahrens301
I have this lowband Micor receiver that I want to test for adjacent channel rejection. I have two calibrated signal generators and a calibrated spectrum analyzer if I need it. How can i measure the rejection of the off channel signal? Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Receiver Testing

2010-07-25 Thread tahrens301
I have this lowband Micor receiver that I would like to check the adjacent channel rejection. I have two calibrated signal generators, and a calibrated spectrum analyzer (if needed). Can I do the measurements with this equipment? If so, how? Resistor divider network between the two sig gens?

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?

2010-07-23 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks, Still working on the hardline duplexer for 6 meters, and have some data I'd like to run by you guys. Running 80 watts out of a Micor tx into the TX bank of cavities. With test equipment, get about 100dB notch. (shows 50 watts into dummy load as well).. have about 1.5 - 2dB loss

[Repeater-Builder] Low Band Micor Mobile as Repeater TX?

2010-07-20 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Well, I got the hardline duplexers completed for 6 meters, and after a shakey start, they now work at power. Looks like about 100dB notch 1.5dB loss through each set of 3 'cans'. Using RG-142 as the inter-can connections, and RG-214 between the TX/RX duplexer. All the 'business'

[Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Heliax Duplexers

2010-07-04 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Well, they are complete, but there seems to be a problem with the transmit side 'cavities'. The variable capacitor from the center of the SO-239 to the center conductor gets extremely hot. I'm running about 70 watts out of the PA, and the devices that I used are identical to what was

[Repeater-Builder] Low Band Micor PA

2010-06-03 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Anybody have a Micor Low Band PA - Repeater/Base station type? Not sure if they came in lower power versions, but looking for a continuous duty. Will swap a VHF continuous duty for it. Looks like I'm getting some cans for the 6 mtr repeater will now be able to be at a single site,

[Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers on the same antenna

2010-04-28 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I'm starting to work on the 6 meter portion of the repeater system here, and have a question about the link receiver's antenna. The existing 2 meter repeater is a Quantar feeding the duplexers. On the 'Antenna' port of the duplexer I've put an in-line diplexer, with the 'UHF' port

[Repeater-Builder] QCII Tone Intervals

2010-04-25 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I thought I remembered the timing, but I've slept since then. In A-B signaling, the A tone was 1 second, the B tone was 3 seconds, but what was the A/B interval? (most around here use a 2 second B tone). What is the dead time between the tones? (if any) Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] DB-225

2010-04-07 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I picked up 3 DB-225 elements yesterday, but can't find any information on them on RB. They are currently tuned for 47.1, and I'd like to take them to 53.15. Anybody have any info on them, or how I could phase 2 of them on the side of the tower? Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1100S Service Manual/Assistance

2010-04-06 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks, Well, looks like the R2002B will be setting on the shelf for a while. (dead PS) In the mean time, I was able to get an IFR 1100S for a good price ;-). Anyhow, looks like it all works except for the o'scope. Was wondering if there is something 'simple' I should look for (fuse, etc),

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola R2002B Monitor - DOS

2010-03-22 Thread tahrens301
Well, it looks like the old R2002B took a drizzlin'. The mongo 6.2v Zener in the 5v overvoltage protect circuit is a dead short, leading me to believe there are more problems lurking in the power supply. Anybody have an 'extra' power supply, or know who works on these things? Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Low Band Micor mobile not making power

2010-03-18 Thread tahrens301
Hi all, Working on a micor mobile to be used as a repeater (only using the exciter/control board/PA). Was going through it, and am only able to get about 75 watts out of it with the exciter on 53.7. The exciter is putting out 0.3 watts... a bit more than most exciters I've seen, but they were

[Repeater-Builder] Maxon SP-5050C Low Band Hand Held Data?

2010-03-08 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Came across a low band handheld... price was right! :-) Looks like it is programmable.. even has a EEPROM in 8pin minidip in a socket! Anybody know if it'll go 'up' to 6 meters? thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor UHF Repeater Base 9.6 vdc current requirement?

2010-02-25 Thread tahrens301
Hey Skipp, I've just removed the AC supply from a SpectraTac receiver shelf. Has a Micor RX a couple of cards. System draws less than 200ma. I used an LM317 (a couple of caps R's)... soldered the tab directly to a piece of PCB material. Runs all day long with 12 input doesn't even get

[Repeater-Builder] K1003A vs K1005 Channel Element Differences

2010-02-22 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I'm working on a low band Micor, and only have some K1005A channel elements. (they are the 'vhf' elements... the 1003 are the 'low band'). I've looked at the schematic to the 1005 here on RB versus what I see in the 1005, and with the exception of a resistor, and possibly the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-21 Thread tahrens301
Thanks for the info guys, I had planned on keeping it about 5 feet away from the tower for the TX antenna.. the RX antenna will be at the top of the mast, so it won't be an issue. (split site) Guess I'll do a bit of experimenting with the mounting. Tim

[Repeater-Builder] DB-201 Measurements for 6 Meters?

2010-02-20 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I looked at the cutting 'chart' here on r-b, but it didn't make much sense. The antennas that I have are at 47.2MHz, and resonate exactly at that frequency. I removed the loop, and the measurements are from Tip of curve to the end of each piece is 54 and 58. The cutting chart says

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Low Band Mobile TX/AMP Schematics

2010-02-19 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks, Anybody have a schematic for a Micor low band mobile? I need schematics for the Exciter, PA, and the control board that sits between the TX RX. Thanks! Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile Physical Specifications (size weight)

2010-02-08 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I am needing the size and weight of a Micor mobile (for shipping purposes). (no accessories) Thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] fLow Band Micor Mobile Schematics?

2010-02-08 Thread tahrens301
Not sure if the manuals are still available from Mot... anybody have some .PDFs? thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] WTT High Band Micor Repeater exciter final for Low Band

2010-02-04 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I'm looking for a Low Band Micor Repeater exciter and Final that I can put on 6 meters. (I already have all the other stuff) I have a High Band version of same stuff to trade. Figured I'd ask here first. Thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery system for portable repeater (non solar)

2010-02-01 Thread tahrens301
I spoke with the technical folks at Optima today, and got some interesting information. 1. For this application, they recommend the Yellow top battery. 2. This battery can be completely 'drained' (down to 0 volts), and be recharged. 300 times - they guarantee for 2 years 3. To

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery system for portable repeater (non solar)

2010-01-30 Thread tahrens301
Are the optima type batteries meant for extended deep discharges? Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, KD8BIW sdenn...@... wrote: Something such as an Optima Yellow top battery would be okay in this use. They are sealed, spillproof AGM batteries. Keep them at their float

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery system for portable repeater (non solar)

2010-01-30 Thread tahrens301
optimas are for deep cycle apps. Check their website. Va2ir Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry _ From: tahrens301 tahr...@... Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:11:05 - To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery system

[Repeater-Builder] Battery system for portable repeater (non solar)

2010-01-29 Thread tahrens301
Now that the actual repeater is complete, I am looking for some suggestions about how to power it. The repeater and +12v power source will be stored in our rescue truck. The idea behind this is to be able to set it up on top of a hill so that we can have communications with personnel on the

[Repeater-Builder] VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
Well, I thought this thing was tuned up, but obviously something is wrong. These are a set of the 2x2x4 cavities... have a plunger in the front, and a variable cap adjustment on the back. Also, a pair of BNC connectors on the capacitor side. The plate says Duplexer Vari-Notch, 147-174 It also

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
completely shot. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:37 PM, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote: Well, I thought this thing was tuned up, but obviously something is wrong. These are a set of the 2x2x4 cavities... have a plunger in the front, and a variable cap adjustment on the back.  Also, a pair

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
. Model numbers are different for units designed for either the transmitter higher or lower than the receiver frequency. I have tuning instructions if this sounds like the unit. Rob K7TGU - Original Message - From: tahrens301 tahr...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
repeaters, Comprised of five of the two inch square cavities. Tx-Rx manual says 2.5 mhz spacing. Tag says Tx 1.5 dB insertion for 76 dB isolation, and Rx is 1.1 dB for 110dB(Tx is 76dB at Rx and Rx is 110 at Tx) Three cavities on Rx, two on Tx. On 1/28/2010 8:28 PM, tahrens301 wrote

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
repeaters, Comprised of five of the two inch square cavities. Tx-Rx manual says 2.5 mhz spacing. Tag says Tx 1.5 dB insertion for 76 dB isolation, and Rx is 1.1 dB for 110dB(Tx is 76dB at Rx and Rx is 110 at Tx) Three cavities on Rx, two on Tx. On 1/28/2010 8:28 PM, tahrens301 wrote

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Vari-Notch Duplexers - 2 x 2 x 4 ???

2010-01-28 Thread tahrens301
it? Did it test okay on the original pair? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for TKR-720

2010-01-27 Thread tahrens301
Anybody have any experience with the duplexers in this repeater? (I have the repeater, and was wondering if it worth trying to find one, or go elsewhere). Will be running the repeater at 20w, with a 4.55mhz split. I've seen the '$99' specials on e-bay.. would they be a decent alternative to

[Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Repeater spacing (no duplexers)

2010-01-21 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I was just wondering if one of you who has the software to do so could look up how much horizontal separation it would take on 6 meters. I have two sites 8 miles apart, and vertically separated by about 30 meters. just wonderin' Thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF 12W Amplifier??

2009-12-21 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I've been looking into making a solar repeater (from the Micor repeaters that I already have on hand). Obviously the 100W or 60W amplifiers are out of the question, not only in power, but really in size. I noticed that there is some silkscreen on the transmitter interconnect board (in

[Repeater-Builder] XTL2500 Control Head Contrast

2009-12-15 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I asked this question on Batlabs, but haven't gotten any response, so I figured I'd ask here. I have an XTL2500 Mobile unit, and the control head is angled so the viewing angle is really bad - the entire display looks somewhat dark - certainly darker than looking straight on. Anybody

[Repeater-Builder] MSTR II Mobile @ 100W

2009-11-29 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I've acquired a MSTR II mobile that has already been placed in repeater service, with a large control box, etc attached via the main connector on the front of the radio. I'm planning on removing all of the external stuff (speaker, etc) to make it as self contained as possible. Found a

[Repeater-Builder] Simulcasting of Repeaters

2009-11-24 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I know it's been done a lot, but I have no experience in having two repeaters simulcasting. Here's the info: There is an existing repeater that has some coverage issues in a neighboring area. The folks in that area, while still wanting to be on the same output frequency, will put a

[Repeater-Builder] Spectra Audio Popping after Capacitor replacement

2009-11-24 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I've been working on these Spectras, and so far, the capacitors have done the trick. But on this last radio, the speaker pops whenever the audio path is open (unsquelched, signal, mode change, etc). Just curious if there's something I've missed. Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Power Connectors - spectras/GM/Maxtrac/...

2009-11-15 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I'm looking for some power connectors for the above types of radios. I don't need much more than pigtails, as I am doing a special cabling project. I've looked at both Mouser Digikey, but they don't seem to carry anything similar. I have seen 'generic' types before... somewhere!

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Suitcase Repeater - Spectra

2009-11-09 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I was perusing the 'for sale' list on QRZ.com the other day, and came across a suitcase repeater which had a spectra control head visible. I was wondering how they did it. Can a spectra be turned into a repeater? Did they use two separate Spectras a single head? Inquiring minds

[Repeater-Builder] Tone Reeds Needed (swap?)

2009-11-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I need the following: 1 Vibrasender (TX) KLN6210A/TLN6824A 141.3 Hz 1 Vibrasponder (RX) TLN8381A 186.2 Hz I have bunches of the Sender reeds: 100.0, 123.0, 151.4, 206.5. Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek/MSR200 preamp needed

2009-10-26 Thread tahrens301
Hi Joe, I'm looking for one as well, if your junk box is that deep! (VHF MSR2000) Thanks, Tim W5FN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, burkleoj joeburk...@... wrote: Wayne, I have had much better luck with Angle Linear preamps than the Mitrek/MSR2000 units. Chip does offer a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater Modifications

2009-10-19 Thread tahrens301
by lightning our only repeater will get zapped. If I do make it, then the weather will be fine, it will have been a 'waste'. Just like insurance! :-) Thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater Modifications

2009-10-16 Thread tahrens301
can figure out how to get the audio through the box, we'll be home free! (it has the secure cards on the left of the rack, some strange wires on the back). Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer kug...@... wrote: tahrens301 wrote: Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor

[Repeater-Builder] Micor DVP Repeater to Non DVP Rptr Conversion

2009-10-16 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Before I dig into the manuals (so thoughtfully provided by RB)!! for the DVP repeater, I thought I'd ask if anyone had already done the conversion had some stuff written up. Otherwise, guess I'll be the first! Thanks, Tim

[Repeater-Builder] HPN1000A Power Supply Schematic/Specs?

2009-10-15 Thread tahrens301
Hi All, That X9000 'consolette' didn't work with all the secure boxes stuff attached, but I removed the radio, control head added a standard cable, reprogrammed it, and it works. Anyway, the power supply that was inside is marked HPN 1000A. Anybody have a schematic or spec sheet on it? It

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HPN1000A Power Supply Schematic/Specs?

2009-10-15 Thread tahrens301
Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HPN1000A Power Supply Schematic/Specs? Hi All, That X9000

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Modifications

2009-10-14 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today, and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4 receiver in them. (160-174mhz). I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators some other stuff is required, but is it necessary if I go down to 154? I'm working on this as a backup repeater for

[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Modules wanted

2009-10-05 Thread tahrens301
Hi All, I recently acquired an MSR2000 2 receiver remote base that I am going to convert to a basic kerchunk-able backup repeater. I know I'll need a squelch gate module, but unsure about the PL cards - the repeater must have separate TX RX PLs. I've reviewed the docs on RB got some good

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 Modules wanted

2009-10-05 Thread tahrens301
can set it to 10 minutes and pretty much forget about it until something bad happens and you pat yourself on the back for using it. cheers, s. tahrens301 tahrens@ wrote: Hi All, I recently acquired an MSR2000 2 receiver remote base that I am going to convert to a basic

[Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820

2009-09-22 Thread tahrens301
Hi Paul, I have a TKR-720 (VHF), and was successful in reprogramming it for the ham frequencies. However, it is not for the 'faint of heart'. 1. There are two EEPROM devices which must be reprogrammed. One for the frequencies, and one for PL. 2. The EEPROM device for the frequencies is

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming of X9000 with Handheld controller

2009-09-17 Thread tahrens301
, the one you have is either a 32 or can go 64 channels with moving a jumper. I have the suitcase programmer for those if you need it. 73, Mike KB5FLX - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming of X9000 with Handheld controller

2009-09-16 Thread tahrens301
Hi Mike, BUSTED! Man, I gotta eat crow on this one... I've had X9000s on the brain for a couple of months now, by golly, if that sticker was a snake, it would'a bit me. First clue.. I had never seen a control board like the one that is in this radio... that shoulda' been an indication that

[Repeater-Builder] Programming of X9000 with Handheld controller

2009-09-15 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I put this out on Batlabs, but haven't heard anything, so I thought I'd try here. I got a couple of VHF X9000s that have the hand held controller, with Securenet stuff inside. I've programmed many 'normal' X9000s before, but can't seem to get this guy to talk. (the computer isn't

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Programming of X9000 with Handheld controller

2009-09-15 Thread tahrens301
have to have special software to talk to the radio and the grey box. Mike - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming of X9000 with Handheld controller

[Repeater-Builder] Radio Mobile Software

2009-09-08 Thread tahrens301
Does anyone have any experience in using this software? I've gotten the main program running, but getting the proper elevation data seems to be a bit iffy. The 'automatic download from the internet' function doesn't appear to work. thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio Mobile Software

2009-09-08 Thread tahrens301
Thanks Phil - looks like that will help. Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Phil Hebert n3...@... wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Radio_Mobile_Deluxe/ is the group dedicated to the programming

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio Mobile Software

2009-09-08 Thread tahrens301
WAY over my head. Hope this helps somewhat. Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahrens@ wrote: Does anyone have any experience in using this software? I've gotten the main program running, but getting the proper elevation data seems to be a bit

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
to move the antenna frequency. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Tue, 9/1/09, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote: From: tahrens301 tahr...@... Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna SWR = Desense? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 2:03 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi All, And the winner is. Door # 2. Put the 2 meter vertical up on the stick at the end of the hard line, the desense was worse! Perfect match at the feed line end. Took dummy load put on far end of hard line no desense. Guess it is the proximity to the antenna. Although about 100',

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
have a chart handy where I am now. Sid. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahrens@ wrote: Hi Jim All, Thanks for the info responses. I took down the 224 found that the N connector on the end wasn't quite up to snuff. I am going to put a ham antenna

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
it, the end result of the situation is simular to bad LMR-400. Scott, N6NXI - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi All

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
- Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi All, And the winner is. Door # 2. Put the 2 meter vertical up on the stick at the end

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Doug, I put the connectors on the hardline myself, was very careful in doing so. Also did an RF check with a dummy load on the end, and no loss/problems. I am going to concentrate on the actual connectors from the Quantar. thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
The antenna is on the top of a small wooden storage building. A mast is placed up against the peak of the roof, and the 224 is on top of that. The metal building that the repeater is in is my garage. Very plain, no air condx, AC power runs around the pearlings about 4' off the ground. Gonna

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Eric, Hmmm, don't think I said above the station, but if I implied it, no, it's horizontal. I can look out the window see it! Nate - I only tried the 'ham quality' antenna because I knew it would be a better match than the DB224. It was easy to change, standing on a 6' ladder! Just

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-01 Thread tahrens301
Hi folks, Just a bit of an update... got the 6 cavity Telewave duplexer tweaked up - looks like it pretty much hit the specs in the data sheet. With a dummy load at the 'antenna' port, I used an iso-tee to inject a signal at both the receiver input, and between the antenna port the dummy load.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-01 Thread tahrens301
-224 100' horizontally 10' vertically separated. I don't understand what you mean by that. Joe tahrens301 wrote: However, putting the system on the antenna (a 150-160 mhz DB-224 100' horizontally 10' vertically separated) through a metal building fed with 7/8 heliax, there seems

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-01 Thread tahrens301
. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: tahrens301 tahr...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi Joe, The repeater/duplexer is in my workshop (a large metal building

[Repeater-Builder] Low Power VHF Repeater - Solar

2009-08-26 Thread tahrens301
A friend of mine who is the foreman for a large ranch asked me about providing radio coverage. As there are a couple of hills (2000' AGL) around the ranch, coverage in some places would be spotty, so a repeater on one of the hills would be the best solution. However, there is no power available,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Power VHF Repeater - Solar

2009-08-26 Thread tahrens301
@yahoogroups.com, Mac McCullough w...@... wrote: go with Lo band, way good coverage, lo band maratracs are in abundant supply, 50.00 or less, no repeater to mess with .. lo band would work well. ymmv mac/mc w5mc - Original Message - From: tahrens301 To: Repeater-Builder

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Power VHF Repeater - Solar

2009-08-26 Thread tahrens301
, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote: Hi Mac, Thanks for the reply. I thought about low band, but they want to use a number of handhelds, I've never been much impressed about the antenna selections on low band handhelds. That has been a couple

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Power VHF Repeater - Solar

2009-08-26 Thread tahrens301
@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote: Tim, Is this a business band thing they are looking at, or can a GMRS repeater be a solution? Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tahrens301 Sent: Wednesday

[Repeater-Builder] DB-4050WB Duplexer

2009-08-25 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I was checking e-bay for duplexers last night, and came across a DB-4050 that the user said was a pass/reject duplexer. It looks almost identical to one that has been giving me some desense issues, but had a marking of SP-1894. The cabling looks a bit different, but functionally

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HP 8924C question

2009-08-25 Thread tahrens301
Hey Joe, Is that you from Mot? Tim Ahrens W5FN (excuse off topic) --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe Ciarcia k...@... wrote: Anyone have a HP 8924C that is being used as a service monitor for land mobile/ repeater applications? Will it send an analog CTCSS tone along with a 1 KHZ

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-4050WB Duplexer

2009-08-25 Thread tahrens301
that was a cabling issue and not the duplexer.  God luck on the adventure..   BR -Richard From: tahrens301 tahr...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:43:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-4050WB Duplexer   Hi Folks

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Molded coil source

2009-08-25 Thread tahrens301
If you aren't looking for a lot of them, coilcraft has always been pretty good about doing samples. All done on their web site. Tim W5FN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, cruizzer77 atlant...@... wrote: Does anyone know a source for shielded molded coils in 10mm size? Mouser

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 Matching

2009-08-20 Thread tahrens301
the extension to 2 inches.  This moves the center frequency of the completed DB-224 mod down to 146 mHz from 155 mHz. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Wed, 8/19/09, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote: From: tahrens301 tahr...@... Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 Matching To: Repeater-Builder

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 Matching

2009-08-20 Thread tahrens301
Hi Jim, I have used a directional coupler to get a received signal into the system, but have too many adapters on it to make it work right! The repeater is a Motorola Quantar, so there shouldn't be any problem in the split size. I can have one antenna on the tower, but not two, so I gotta

[Repeater-Builder] Re: mdc1200 decoding help

2009-08-20 Thread tahrens301
One of the guys here had written some C code that runs on a PC that you could use.. think you plug the RX audio into the sound card. If you want, I can dig up the e-mail. I think I saved it. A hardware solution would be to get one of the Motorola desktop MDC units. They have a LED display on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: mdc1200 decoding help

2009-08-20 Thread tahrens301
...@... wrote: If you could dig up that email, that would be great. You can either repost on here or email that directly to me. Thanks --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahrens@ wrote: One of the guys here had written some C code that runs on a PC that you could use.. think

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 Matching

2009-08-20 Thread tahrens301
Hi Jim, thanks for the words on corrosion, and Laryn... aah, the voice of experience! No holes will be drilled!! Thanks to all. I believe that will be the easiest way to make it work. Tim W5FN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, larynl2 lar...@... wrote: Perhaps drilling a hole

[Repeater-Builder] DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread tahrens301
In my quest to get rid of desense with the Quantar, someone mentioned that having the 'wrong' antenna could make the desense worse. I've got a DB-224 - not the 'ham' version, but the 150-160 MHz version, and there is a bit of a mismatch. Has anyone ever had any desense that they could attribute

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread tahrens301
Hi Norm, It's 147.10/70, so at least it's up high in the band. I thought about adding some metal to the loops, but figured I'd ask around here to see if it's been done before. Thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote: What frequency pair in 2m do you

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-11 Thread tahrens301
Hi Joe, Guess we are all telling our age. I had WR1AIK in 1975/76. Remember it took a note to my congressman to get the license assigned - seemed to take forever! I was in the AF in Northern Maine at the time. cu Tim W5FN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe k1ike_m...@... wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-11 Thread tahrens301
- Hi DCflux, Tried the bandpass + notches didn't change much. On changing to the BpBr, any idea how much capacitance is needed? I have a fistfull of those Johanson caps. Also, a buddy of mine has a Sinclair Q202G that I'm thinking about also. Will pick it up tomorrow see if it is any

[Repeater-Builder] Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Was just curious as to if folks have gotten Notch cavities to work ok with a 600khz split. Have 4 in Rx leg 4 in TX leg. According to the analyzer, each bank has a 90dB notch. Double shielded cable throughout (RG-9). Just about pulled all my hair out over the last couple of weeks, and still

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Dcflu7x, It's a DB products SP-1894. Can't get any info on it from anywhere. Each of the 8 cans have the approx dimensions of 5 x 21. A single screw-type shaft in the center, and one SO-239 sticking out of the top of the can. No variable caps, or anything else on the cans. Each can has an

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Ralph, No, they were 10 as came from the factory for 166 mhz, so it didn't look like they were cut for anything in particular. DCflux - I started to do what you suggested... sounded like something else to try. Took the link out of the last can the loop wasn't soldered to the PL259

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Bob, I was pretty curious about it as well, especially in the 'early days' of this project. Nobody seemed to know much about the stubs. If you are looking at the spec. analyzer trk gen, you see the notch. The left side goes down deep, then comes up on the right side of the notch. But,

[Repeater-Builder] Desense with Notch-type duplexers - Questions

2009-08-07 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, Guess it's a good thing the antenna party didn't happen yet. Put the DB-224 up on a pole here attached to a portable building. Ran the 7/8 heliax from the antenna into my garage - about 100'. With a signal source from my monitor, the repeater would chop in and out. Ugh-desense. I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with Notch-type duplexers - Questions

2009-08-07 Thread tahrens301
Hi Dcflux, Yeah, I did that 1st. Actually, they now come out of the front of the box are as far apart as I can get them. Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX dcf...@... wrote: Cut the wire tied together TX and RX cables on the back of the quantar and seperate them as far as

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with Notch-type duplexers - Questions

2009-08-07 Thread tahrens301
I checked it into a dummy load (with one of those celwave signal insertion boxes), and didn't see any signs of desense. A friend of mine who used to work for Mot said that he had a desense problem with a VHF Quantar - Mot sent out some kind of memo that said you had to use some special kind of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with Notch-type duplexers - Questions

2009-08-07 Thread tahrens301
Hmmm, Well, I did the signal injection into the receiver's port, as opposed to at the dummy load, and indeed, I do have desense when using the dummy load. I guess that points back to the cans how well they are performing (or not)!

[Repeater-Builder] Quantar De-sense issues?

2009-07-31 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I was talking to a buddy of mine that used to work for Motorola, and he remembers having a problem with desense on a VHF Astro system. He had even received an email from a Mot product engineer stating that off the shelf duplexers would cause the problems they were having. Figured

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