I completely agree with Aftabs evaluation of the fee related issue.
This would create a significant burden on small LIR's.
I no longer/do not support this proposal.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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and do it
once at the AMM, or the other way around.
I've seen this happen a number of times at combined Apricot events with a
lot of other parties present. One might say that it would be wiser to
propose policies only at the mid-year events.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks
.
His point of the number of name servers for reverse delegation for a /29
being 8 and a /28 being 1 is quite a compelling reason to increase the
default 'larger' allocation to /28.
So... balancing the two.. I support increasing the standard large
allocation to a /28.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens
.
...Skeeve
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, and it is not. Ever.
...Skeeve
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I did actually think that... but Aftab rightly pointed out that there are
people who still can use them, due to their own equipment or due to their
upstreams.
...Skeeve
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Dean,
Pleas enlighten us on what version you would support.
...Skeeve
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hahahahahahahahahah
...to walking into a room full of people and saying Everyone who is not
here, please raise your hand and concluding from the lack of raised hands
that everyone is present.
This made my morning.
...Skeeve
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Yes we did... Like when Cisco started rolling out 1.1.1.1 to Wireless
Controllers and other things.
...Skeeve
On Friday, February 27, 2015, Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz wrote:
Here's a quote from an even OLDER RFC which hasn't stood the test of time.
- Large organizations
That was bad planning :(. I was thinking of doing a lightening, but policy
is more important.
...Skeeve
On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz
wrote:
We have the first policy sig session on at the same time as the Lightning
talks on Thursday.
It will be
How do you see needs basis going away in this wording?
...Skeeve
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to have to come back and do amendments picking on a word here
or there because there has been an innovation in the way networks are
operated.
I fully support the idea that this isn't a free-for-all.. but we need some
flexibility in the community.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
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Yes, because it seems to make more sense to you to waste everyones time
discussing something that could be sorted out as much as possible on the
list before we take it to the SIG. Good one.
...Skeeve
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?
...Skeeve
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Good question David.
Secretariat... can we have those numbers?
...Skeeve
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aftab.siddi...@gmail.com
Skeeve Stevens
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1. Problem statement
The current ASN assignment policy states two eligibility criteria and
that both criteria should be fulfilled in order to obtain an ASN. The
policy seems
year.
=
prop-113-v003: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria
Proposer: Aftab Siddiqui
aftab.siddi...@gmail.com
Skeeve Stevens
Masato-san,
Are you suggesting that we are able to change either Policy or Lightening
talks for this event? I would love to go to both.
I think this is only really a problem at Apricot events, not APNIC events.
...Skeeve
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their networks should they choose to do it that way.
...Skeeve
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Owen,
But who determines 'if they need one' ? Them, or you (plural)?
I believe they should be able to determine that they need one and be able
to get one based on that decision - not told how they should be doing their
upstream connectivity at any particular time.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens
the criteria and then disconnect and
then you are still allowed to continue using it. So why have the
restriction there in the first place?
Surely if someone thinks having an ASN is important in their design, they
should be allowed to have one.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker
charging for ASN's... but don't tell networks how they
should be connected at any time.
Btw... I am happy for this to apply ONLY to ASN4 and not ASN2.
...Skeeve
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Agreed... Aftabs use case is one of many... the others I just posted about.
...Skeeve
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Guangliang,
What are the rules about someone with a ASN, later de-multi-homing?
...Skeeve
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Please see my other email Phil.. there is very valid reasons for this
policy change.
...Skeeve
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to.
...Skeeve
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,
shouldn't even be there in the first place. If the only reason it remains
is to annoy some small number of ethical people, it should be remediated.
...Skeeve
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I would think it would... why does it matter how you get to another peer?
...Skeeve
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We will have new wording soon.
...Skeeve
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fore money is spent on it.
...Skeeve
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twitt
Hi Lu,
1st: I would say no. There are no followups after allocation and there
should not be due to the many complication issues that can happen.
2nd: I would say no. The changing of network infrastructure should NOT
invalidate the original request which is approved.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve
Dean,
This is a good policy and should be the sort of thing that is in place at
all conferences, not just 2016.
...Skeeve
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This is worrying re Confer as I am quite sure I could register 100,000
people with unique addresses.
We've entered a new era of bots - this would not be hard.
...Skeeve
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Hey Bertrand,
Can I make a request to propose a polict remotely?
I will try to be there, but I will need to see how I go.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks (Cambodia)
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With these statistics, I fail to see the problem that was being addressed
as opposed to the problem is now causes by limiting the way people do their
business.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks (Cambodia)
Pte Ltd.
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This number is so small in the scheme of things it should NOT have been
enshrined in policy.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks (Cambodia)
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I agree, but there needs to be some protection for APNIC on the resources
left.
But I think the APNIC EC can probably decide on the best way to evaluate
this themselves.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks (Cambodia)
Pte Ltd.
Email:
.
...Skeeve
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drifting from their chartered purpose too much in my opinion and should be
put back in their place.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks (Cambodia)
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So define it better. This could be undertaken by the EC outside the scope
of policy IMHO.
...Skeeve
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Agreed. I do agree that there needs to be some protections to avoid abuse
of the last /8 resources, but, there seems to be a policy failure elsewhere
in APNIC in relation to the evaluation of M which is allowing abusive
transactions to occur.
...Skeeve
*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Archi
.
...Skeeve
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