Re: [silk] The future of learning?

2011-06-11 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-06-11 18:28:43 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

  http://archives.aox.org/archives/silk/13492/thread
 
 I don't think the aox silk archive is still alive.

What was there still works, and in particular, that link works. I never
did subscribe it to live silk messages. I can't remember why not. Maybe
I will, after I'm back home. I suppose my personal archive will fill in
the gaps between my last import and now.

 It was started as a demo of crab's archiving software and didn't
 survive his parting ways with the company.

That is (unintentionally, I'm sure) very misleading. I didn't part ways
with the company, we (that is me and the other co-founder) decided to
shut it down, though we still maintain the software by ourselves. The
archive is still meant to work, though I don't pay as much attention
to it these days as I used to.

-- ams



Re: [silk] fish^N

2011-06-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-06-01 02:23:08 -0700, manikuttyan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 To build up an arbitrarily large sentence involving fish, I give you
 the following grammar:
 
 Sentence -  NX V [N_that_is_the_name_of_a_place] N
 
 NX - N NX V | N N V
 
 Here, N = fish as a noun
 V = fish as a verb
 N_that_is_the_name_of_a_place = Fish, the town
 NX = a grammar construct that is used to simply create an arbitrarily large 
 sentence. 
 
 … That should take care of everything. 

Sentence is fine:

Somethings (NX) fish (V) [Fish] (P) fish (N)

(Note that NX must be plural, because of the number of fish (V), but
let's ignore that altogether.) If NX is N N V, that gives us fish (N)
fish (N) fish (V). Substituting into Sentence, we get:

{fish (N) fish (N) fish (V)} fish (V) [Fish] (P) fish (N)

…which makes no sense, as far as I can tell. If you ask Who fishes for
Fish fish? or What do fish (N) fish (N) fish for?, there are no good
answers. Nor does prepending a fish (N) and appending a fish (V) (the
other branch of NX) make any difference.

If the objective was to generate meaningless sentences containing only
fish, a much simpler production like fish *( fish) would suffice.

 P.P.S. More here 
 : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/indo-euro-americo-asian_list/message/433

P.S. Message does not exist in indo-euro-americo-asian_list

P.P.S. I'm in Kolkata right now, where the way to write a sentence
containing arbitrary repetitions of fish is dinner.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Norwegian/Swedish

2011-05-20 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-20 12:26:10 +0530, xxx...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This thread reminds me of the Tamil remake of Samson and Delilah
 starring Sambasivan and D.Leela !!

I wonder if there's a Mallu couple somewhere named Digital and Analog.

Aside: I know only a smattering of Norwegian and Swedish, but I don't
think sound like the Indian languages I know (Bangla, Malayalam, Hindi).
One similarity, however, is that Norwegian has a properly voiced, rolled
r sound. Germans find it very hard to do. Mallus wouldn't.

-- ams



Re: [silk] A cure for cancer?

2011-05-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-19 18:55:06 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Wow. this is a wild claim, which I'm not in a position to evaluate.
 Thoughts, from those in a better position to comment?

After a conversation with a medically more aware friend: the claim, as
stated, is overblown. DCA is just one substance (not the first) which
has shown promise at killing cancer cells in vitro, but which have not
been successfully translated into in vivo cures for cancer. It's still
somewhat promising, but certainly no magic bullet.

-- ams



Re: [silk] anyone near Coimbatore?

2011-05-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-18 11:58:09 +0530, li...@aadisht.net wrote:

 I'm in Thiruvannamalai, not Coimbatore, but the IEX is of no use when
 the electricity board cuts the grid itself off.

Why do they do that?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Sidin Vadukut - Introduction

2011-05-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-18 07:12:45 +, r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote:

 You're here too? Maybe there's now a quorum for a Gurgaon/Delhi
 silkmeet?

Is London considered part of the greater Delhi area these days? :-)

-- ams



Re: [silk] anyone near Coimbatore?

2011-05-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-18 12:48:36 +0530, li...@aadisht.net wrote:

 Peak hour pricing runs from 6 pm to 10 pm. Then, it may or may not be
 cheaper to buy from IEX.

A month or so ago, I saw that the average IEX clearing prices in TN had
risen to INR15/unit or something similarly ridiculous (prices elsewhere
were still INR3-5/unit).

Has that changed yet?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Energy exchange

2011-05-16 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-16 11:11:49 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Hm. What about this one then?

Sorry, I forgot about PXIL. You're right, there are two. (Until someone
digs up a third one I have never heard of, anyway.) Everything I said
earlier applies to the IEX. I don't know anything about PXIL.

-- ams



Re: [silk] anyone near Coimbatore?

2011-05-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-16 00:56:49 +, sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 You'll find that power cuts are a regular feature in industrial areas
 around india, most companies compensate by buying diesel generators

(I happen to be doing some work in this area, so…)

Another thing that smallish industrial units (including several textile
mills in Tamil Nadu) are doing is bidding for electricity on the Indian
Energy Exchange (iexindia.com). That way, they can hedge their bets: if
the market clearing price for power is lower than the cost of running a
diesel generator, they save money. If they have to run the generator,
then in principle, they can even sell any surplus power they generate
during that period. The minimum volume is 1MW, but in practice, some
people buy even less and nobody objects.

Aside: exchange power was very expensive in Tamil Nadu in the run-up
to the elections (4-5x the prices elsewhere in the country).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Energy exchange

2011-05-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-05-16 09:54:59 +0530, li...@tarundua.net wrote:

 Fascinating. Does one need to be a producer of electricity to
 participate in an energy exchange ?

Not an, the.

There's only one, which was mandated by the CERC (Central Electricity
Regulatory Commission, www.cercind.gov.in) in 2008, and operated by a
private company (IEX).

And no, you don't have to be a seller to trade on the exchange. There
are many more buyers than sellers. You just have to do some paperwork
to get approval, and then become an IEX member (or, as most people do,
go through a broker).

The power is delivered through the normal grid, but to a separate meter.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Is sugar toxic?

2011-04-20 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-04-20 17:56:40 +0100, ala...@snell-pym.org.uk wrote:

 ABS
 
 --
 Alaric Snell-Pym

How come you sign ABS rather than ASP?

-- ams



Re: [silk] A crisis of confidence

2011-03-30 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-03-30 16:30:15 +, sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 Cheeni suffers a bit from the india sucks because of the mediocrity,
 indian crab syndrome etc

Hey, don't drag me into this.

-- ams



Re: [silk] The universe is a hologram...

2011-03-26 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-03-26 23:03:37 +0530, vinay...@gmail.com wrote:

 The list you mentioned has only one member - you and only one
 poster - you. Is this intentional ?

Think of the one-person list as a place to post things, kinda like
people used to have Geocities pages. But since Yahoo shut Geocities
down, Yahoo groups was the only remaining option.

-- ams



Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17

2011-02-16 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-02-15 17:26:54 +0530, j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 15-Feb-2011, at 2:54 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
 
  This talk of shenanigans and bandwidth conservation reminded me
  of Postel's Prescription: “Be liberal in what you accept, and
  conservative in what you send”.[1]

I don't see the relevance to this discussion, so I'll digress to say
that it always annoys me when Postel is quoted to justify accepting all
sorts of malformed nonsense in protocol implementations. The idea is to
be accepting where there is some ambiguity or different interpretations
of the standard, not to accept things which are outright invalid.

  [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/Postels-Prescription.html

 Better known as Postel's Law or the Robustness Principle. Postel's
 Prescription is new usage for me.

It's probably just something ESR made up.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Light on Yoga

2011-02-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-02-07 09:44:56 -0800, tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 When did Silk become the bulletin board to routinely debate threads
 from this Indo-Eurasian research list?

For efficiency, we should clearly just subscribe silk to that list.

-- ams



Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-01-19 02:10:10 -0800, sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 i'd rather not touch net4india with a bargepole

Yeah. I've been not-touching-them-with-a-bargepole for so long that it's
sometimes difficult to explain to people why I prefer to avoid them. :-)

-- ams



Re: [silk] server hosting in india

2011-01-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2011-01-19 15:44:57 +0530, sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is, if the said limits can actually be attained.

Limits? We don't need no steenkin' limits.

I asked the Net4 chap what peak transfer rate they could give us, and he
said 10GB. So I said *rate*, not *size*, and he said Infinite!.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Lurkers, hidden audiences, and public archives

2010-12-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-12-15 15:31:39 +0530, narayan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 But I want to find out if anyone else on this list shares my views.

I think it's vital to the functioning of democracy that the public have
access to information about our shady world leaders, e.g. which pubs in
Bangalore they hang out at, or how many invites they have left to which
social network.

-- ams



[silk] decarbonising and other rituals

2010-08-10 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Every time I take a car to a workshop for servicing, they seem to come
up with a new procedure that I've never heard of, and which costs the
best part of INR 1k.

Does anyone know if Maruti cars really need to be decarbonised every
10k kilometres or so? (How come my old 800 and Zen never needed it?)

-- ams



[silk] UPS power consumption and battery charging

2010-07-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Hi.

Does anyone here know how to calculate approximately how much power an
online/double-converting/sine wave UPS consumes from the mains? I guess
that, if it has to keep N 12V batteries charged, the most power it can
consume is (a bit higher than, depending on efficiency) N*12V*c, where
c is the maximum charging current. Am I missing anything?

(For my 1KVA online UPS, which has 3 65AH/12V batteries and charges them
at up to 6A, I speculate that the maximum power used is 6*3*12=216W, and
when the charger is floating to keep the batteries charged, the power
use is pretty much negligible.)

Second, can anyone comment on the advisability of charging SLA (sealed
lead acid) batteries at currents of =0.1C (i.e. 10% of their rated Ah
capacity or more)? My UPS vendor says they've had problems with current
that high, and the battery FAQ says 0.1C for SLAs, but battery vendors
seem to recommend 10-20% even for SLAs. Does this differ significantly
for VRLA batteries?

Third, can anyone explain in detail the internals of a constant-voltage
battery charger? I understand the basic idea: provide as much current as
needed to maintain the voltage across the terminals at the recommended
charging level, but I don't understand enough about how batteries work
to figure out what happens when you apply a higher current, or how the
voltage is measured or maintained.

Also, does anyone know how much I should expect to spend on a basic DC
ammeter (the nifty clamp-on hall effect ones, not an in-circuit one),
preferably in India?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Ten toughest books to read

2010-06-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-06-15 12:38:37 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 I certainly agree with _Foucault's Pendulum_. I've bounced off it
 several times over the years.

I read it once, a very long time ago, and enjoyed it thoroughly. Then I
kept hearing people say it was so long and boring that they couldn't get
through it, and I began to wonder if I had really managed to read all of
it. So I read it again a few years ago, and enjoyed it again.

-- ams



[silk] intel mini-itx motherboards

2010-05-24 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Does anyone here have some experience with Intel's mini-ITX motherboards
such as the DG41MJ (older) or DH57JG (newer)? They look pretty nice.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Writing with the pack (Srini RamaKrishnan)

2010-05-13 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-05-13 09:46:12 +0530, narayan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On a practical note, where does one go to get away from the news
 though?

I think the idea is to choose not to consume it, not go somewhere where
there is none to consume.

-- ams



[silk] text of supreme court (and other) judgements

2010-05-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Since we have a few lawyers on the list—where does one go to find the
text of the various judgements by Indian courts? Is www.judis.nic.in
everything there is?

How come companies like scconline.com charge INR75k for a CD of the text
of the judgements? Are they offering any data that aren't available for
free, or are they just charging exorbitantly just for a (presumably)
pretty search interface?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Silk Meet?

2010-04-29 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-30 09:56:10 +0530, c...@shiokfood.com wrote:

 I'm in, but I don't have a restaurant to host the meet any more,
 sadly. :D

What happened to it?

-- ams



Re: [silk] using git with a central repository

2010-04-21 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-21 06:56:16 -0700, deepak.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 (this is not a comment on the contents of the tutorial)

Noted, but I kept the effect you describe very much in mind while
writing this tutorial. I've tried to write git-centric descriptions as
simply as possible, rather than to try to simplify by relating things to
how they work in other VCSes.

 I advocate learning Git bottom-up[1]

Yes, that's certainly the best way.

-- ams



Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?

2010-04-20 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-20 07:55:19 +0530, cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 ams - with respect may I point out that it was you who first raised a
 strawman about lack of Hindu violence on this thread which you tried
 to knock down subsequently. 

Sure, go ahead. It would be churlish of me to deny you the pleasure of
typing strawman a few more times.

 It only comes out of people who are sensitive and defensive about
 being associated with Hindus while being afraid of being mistaken
 for one of them.

(Lesser beings, in other words?)

It is absurd to look at a religion in isolation from the people who
practice it. It is absurd, when someone mentions religiously-motivated
violence, to say that the religion is one thing and what people choose
to do is something else entirely, and that followers of other religions
do the same kinds of things anyway.

Because of Hinduism's Frankenstein's-monster (i.e. patchwork) nature, it
makes even less sense to claim it's tolerant than it does to say Islam
is peaceful, and there's plenty of intolerance and violence of various
kinds on display if you look beyond the buzzwords.

TL;DR: strawman strawman strawman burn burn burn

-- ams



Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?

2010-04-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-19 08:18:59 +0530, cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 What religions dictate and what followers of religions do are two
 different things.

Right. One is smoke, the other is mirrors.

 The act of attributing a religious motivation to a societal event or
 societal situation is a political act.

The act of interpreting *any* event or situation is a political act. Or
were you using political as a dirty word, as in only bad people do
that sort of thing?

 How often do you read the assertion that Muslims do not kill Muslims?

Sorry, I've never read it.

The claim I *do* read—frequently on silk—is that Hinduism is a very
tolerant, permissive religion that (to over-simplify) wouldn't hurt
a fly and couldn't care less what you do or believe or not.

To support that position, it seems one has to think of Hinduism as a
religion that doesn't really exist… or if it does, it has no scriptures
and doesn't prescribe anything… but even if it does, it doesn't have any
followers… or at least, they can't be identified… or if they can, it's a
politically-motivated act to do so, and anyway, what they do has nothing
to do with the religion itself, no matter how the people in question
identify themselves or what they claim their own motivations are.

And Muslims kill each other anyway, so what's the big deal?

Using that framework, it's possible to handwave away a wide range of
activities by people who claim they're Hindu (but any disinterested
observer will tell you they're obviously just followers of Hinduism):
from historical oppression of other sects/religions, to Khap panchayats
in Haryana ordering people to be killed for getting married too close to
home, to missionaries being burned by mobs, to systematically planning
and executing the butchering of many hundreds of people.

All just the misguided actions of individuals. Or groups of individuals.
Or groups of individuals who think they're Hindus, but don't know what
their *real* motivations are. Nothing to do with religion… and besides,
Muslims have honour killings too, and look, your fly is open!

-- ams



Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?

2010-04-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-19 21:01:37 +0530, cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 Would you be greatly inconvenienced to point out two posts from anyone
 in the archives that make this assertion and prove that this is not
 the first of three strawmen you have created. 

Yes, I would. I remember what happened the last time I spent an hour or
two finding references to support $whatever you disagreed with at the
time. It doesn't seem worth the effort to do it again. Sorry.

 They are murderers who are lying, but why should you care?

Why is that relevant? Lying murderers of any shape and colour make me
nervous in inverse proportion to their distance from the government
(figuratively) and myself (literally).

 The rhetoric is entertaining

Yippee, I'm moving up in the world.

-- ams



Re: [silk] How does one unregister from Hinduism?

2010-04-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-17 11:55:25 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some religions (though not Hinduism) have no place for those who do
 not believe; they are labelled pagan or heathen or unbelievers
 and can be persecuted and killed...

Yeah. No persecution and killing of unbelievers when it comes to
Hinduism. Nothing to see here, move right along.

-- ams



Re: [silk] online banking security analysis

2010-04-13 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
BTW, after a month-long investigation, this is what ICICI bank has to
say about what happened:

 Kindly note that in any internet banking case, transaction can take
 place only with the authentication of user id and password by the
 system when entered.

 User ID and password is known only to the customer.

 Hence we would be unable to reverse the mobile recharge transaction.

 However you can take police assistance for further investigation for
 recovery and resolution.

I wonder what they were investigating for a month then.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Simon singh's gets attention from MoJ

2010-04-01 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-04-01 14:49:39 +0530, suma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simon Singh won his appeal. Yay!

You don't think it's suspicious that the judgement is dated April 1?

-- ams



Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-23 16:25:18 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote:

 … and her ignoring the more serious criticism from Gail Omvedt.

Thanks, I hadn't read Gail Omvedt's letter and response to some of
Arundhati Roy's writings on dams. I found them quite interesting.

 She went to jail for one night, probably didn't like the dal, and next
 day paid the fine and got out.

Aside: I've never understood this particular argument. She was sentenced
to a symbolic one day imprisonment and an INR2000 fine. She went to jail
for a day and paid the fine. Why would it have been less hypocritical or
more noble to stay in jail for three months instead of paying the fine?

-- ams



Re: [silk] For the Arundhati Roy haters out there

2010-03-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-23 17:31:36 +, sali...@googlemail.com wrote:

 OK, I recall she was given one-month's prison or fine; she decided to
 go to prison, then paid fine after a day in jail. If that's wrong, I
 stand corrected.

Oh, no, that's definitely not what happened.

http://www.thehindu.com/2002/03/07/stories/2002030706060100.htm

NEW DELHI, MARCH 6. The Supreme Court today convicted the Booker
Prize winner, Arundathi [sic] Roy, for having ``committed criminal
contempt of this court by scandalising its authority with mala fide
intentions'' and sentenced her to a ``symbolic imprisonment'' for
one day and pay a fine of Rs. 2,000; in default, to undergo a simple
imprisonment for three months.

-- ams



[silk] online banking security analysis

2010-03-12 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Has anyone done a security analysis of net banking sites in India? Have
any actual attacks been dissected and documented? Does anyone know what
measures are taken to safeguard authentication information?

Someone used my mother's net banking account without authorisation, and
the bank (ICICI) says, in effect, it happens, what can anyone do?. So
I'm just wondering if there's any sensible/safe way to use net banking.

I did notice that Standard Chartered rejected the twenty-four character
password (including non-alphanumerics) I tried to create. I had to set
a much shorter alphanumeric password instead. Unfortunate.

-- ams



Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-03 16:14:51 +0100, che...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was pretty much happy with Linux usability too until last month when
 I had to spend 2 whole days getting sound to work on a realtek chipset
 that shipped on a HP machine that ostensibly supports Linux.

Well, that's depressing. I'm wrestling with making wireless (Atheros
AR928X) and sound (RealTek 272) work together on an Acer Aspire 5532.
The older kernel breaks wireless and half-breaks sound; the newer one
breaks sound altogether but wireless works fine.

Aside: I don't know about user-friendly, but Ubuntu is certainly
becoming more like Windows—half the time, the solution to weird
problems is to reboot.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Losing the Apple habit

2010-02-26 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-02-27 00:36:19 +0530, j...@pobox.com wrote:

  For pictures, didn't you get once settle on a work cycle involving
  F-Spot?
 
 I did, and I can tolerate it, but the thing is, F-Spot can't process
 raw.

Have you seen RawTherapee?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Interesing Nonsense

2010-01-24 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-01-21 11:51:34 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 The way I heard it, the very cheap truck/vehicle Suresh is referring
 to above was actually called a jugaad and the generic usage of the
 word for any hack of this nature came later.

I know nothing about the etymology of jugaad, but I've just returned
from a quick trip to the Chambal river in UP at a village called Bah
(no, really). It was full of Jugaads (as in the cheap truck/vehicle)
made from water pumps and the like, carrying fodder and wood around.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Bangalore meetup on Thursday/Fridauy?

2009-12-02 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-12-03 12:23:02 +0530, sur...@hserus.net wrote:

  I am at Nimhans. Your call on venue.

 The choice will probably drive him crazy.

So you're saying NIMHANS is the right venue?

-- ams



[silk] online petitions to gov.in

2009-11-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Does anyone have examples of online petitions addressed to a Government
body (e.g. the PMO) that have been taken note of and acted upon? Did the
number of signatures make a difference? Are there any government bodies
that routinely take such petitions seriously?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Etiquette here

2009-09-30 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-09-30 20:30:37 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rajesh, another important rule here (sometimes breached!) is..no
 ad hominem. Ridicule an opinion but not the person expressing it.

I wish everyone understood that rule as well as you do. It always annoys
me when someone uses it (most often condescendingly) to condemn whatever
behaviour does not conform to their warm and fuzzy and inaccurate notion
of what ad hominem means (which is usually something along the lines of
being mean and nasty).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Interview Questions

2009-09-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-09-08 09:52:51 +0530, kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:

 (yes, I make it cubes when interviewing women)

Yes, women are incapable of reasoning about spherical objects.

 Obviously, there is no solution in 3 weighings

Oh? Why is it obvious?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Interview Questions

2009-09-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-09-08 19:27:38 +0530, kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote:

 But I agree it is a trick question in a way since it doesn't have a
 solution.

Alas:

http://www.isixsigma.com/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=13057
http://main.isixsigma.com/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=36435

(Time to fire some people!)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Function

2009-08-31 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-08-31 14:40:11 +0200, eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 Гамлет

Oops, yeah. Sorry, just a typo.

(Entering Unicode characters by typing out their codepoints sucks.)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Where in Mumbai do the freighters dock?

2009-08-29 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-08-29 10:28:45 +0100, docto...@craphound.com wrote:

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Re: [silk] Function

2009-08-27 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-08-27 20:16:14 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I now routinely refer to my husband as Mogun.

Works in Russian as well, where Hamlet is written Гамлэт (Gamlet)
because there's no H in Cyrillic (K and G, however, are distinct).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Jaaga - Art Technology Space in Bangalore

2009-08-26 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-08-27 03:48:06 -, lukhman_k...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jaaga in kannada means space. Its a common noun.
 Sorry to point out that its just not creative enough.

It's an experiment in architecture, not a sodding creative writing
workshop.

 Imagine building a house and calling it Mane' (house).

Oh, the horror. The horror.

-- ams



[silk] dual use scientific names

2009-07-14 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
I thought some people here may find this interesting:

http://toroid.org/ams/etc/dual-use-scientific-names

It's about some of the more interesting examples of names that have been
given both to a genus and to a (different) species (of birds). Here's a
brief excerpt:

  «The Farsi word Satrap (derived from an Old Persian word meaning
  protector of the province, and related to Kshatriya in Sanskrit)
  features in the astonishingly similar names of the Yellow-Browed
  Tyrant /Satrapa icterophrys/ and Golden-Crowned Kinglet /Regulus
  satrapa/. The genus Regulus includes the Goldcrest /Regulus regulus/,
  Flamecrest /R. goodfellowi/, and Firecrest /R. ignicapilla/; besides
  which, the specific name regulus is shared by a Honeyguide and a
  Manakin. The genus Satrapa is monotypic, as befits a Tyrant.»

-- ams



[silk] pay up, or stay here

2009-06-09 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Are employment contracts with if you leave, you have to give three
months' notice or _pay us three months' salary_ clauses enforceable
in India? Or is it just intimidation?

-- ams, just curious.



Re: [silk] Indian foodies

2009-06-06 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-06-07 04:22:36 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know whom to defy...should I be a def-iyer or a def-iyengar?

Here's the food… help yourselves, everyone. :-)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Indian foodies

2009-06-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-06-03 21:13:13 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Isn't puttu a very laborious thing to make?

There must be two things with the same name and very different natures,
then. The puttu I know of is easy to make. Rice flour, grated coconut,
salt, steam (in a cylindrical metal container that sits nicely on the
pressure cooker's nozzle), done. Perfect for a hurried breakfast.

I know the Malayalam name of said metal container, but I can't write it
in English without making it sound like a small child (kutti).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Indian foodies

2009-06-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-06-03 22:09:54 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please...offlist if necessary...send me the recipe, meaning, the
 proportions, for this.

I saw no reason to take it off-list, especially since Radhika wants the
recipe too.

You use approximately twice as much fine rice powder as (preferably
fresh, but we've often used frozen too) grated coconut. You have to wet
the rice a little (you want wet rice powder, not dough) and mix with the
coconut and salt to taste. Layer them roughly inside the magic cylinder.

Personally, I put in a tiny bit more salt than one might normally think
necessary, because then you can eat the resulting puttu on its own, and
it's delicious. Otherwise you eat it with sugar. Or a banana. Or kadala
curry, of course.

 But tell me some substitute for the kutti

Ah well, now if you don't have a small cylindrical metal child handy…
let me describe the process, and you can improvise. The device is meant
to hold the raw material in its cylindrical shape while conveying steam
through it. What one does is to put a little water in a pressure cooker,
switch it on and put the cylinder—open—on the spout. When steam starts
to come out of the top, you put the lid on the cylinder and steam it for
5min.

You might try adding a tiny bit more water to the mixture, and moulding
it into laddoo-like things for steaming. Or maybe you could steam them
in an idli dish, if you have one of those. You won't get cylindrical
puttu, but it should taste just as good. You'll have to experiment with
the timing. The properly cooked puttu should hold together, but be moist
and a little crumbly.

., is your recipe different?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Indian foodies

2009-06-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-06-04 07:49:55 +0530, mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean, put the vessel on the spout? My pressure cooker
 has a body and a lid with a spout that spews out water vapour. Am I
 supposed to put it on top of the lid, on top of the spout?

Yes. The cylinder has a hole in the bottom which fits over the spout.

 OK, I'll try doing thiscan I use idli plates? Inside the pressure
 cooker which will be closed but not have the weight on?

Yeah, that's what I meant. I don't know how well it works (or how long
it'll need to be cooked in there), but it's certainly worth trying.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introductions and Identity

2009-06-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-06-03 14:48:40 +0530, ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 this member was of the opinion that pseudonyms such as . or even
 lawnun should be discouraged on the list.

I've thought about this question often, but my feelings are complicated
and may be somewhat contradictory. (I've never tried to write them down
before, and I'm not sure I can explain them well, but I'll try.)

In this context, I interact with people on a variety of mailing lists,
ranging from technical lists (which I think of as work at some level,
even on a casual open source project's list) to more social lists (such
as the delhibird list, which is still technical but less connected to
work in my mind), to lists like silk (not work at all); and IRC.

Broadly speaking, the kinds of people in these places range from those
who always use real (or real-sounding) names to those who use nicknames
(in this category I include people who use only an email address that
doesn't obviously correspond to a name, of which there are many) to
those who use obvious pseudonyms and make a concerted effort to keep
their identity a secret.

In a way, I feel I should react the same way to people across the whole
spectrum. I *know* that real-sounding names may be fake or even actively
misleading; and I know that people who insist on their anonymity may do
so for good reasons, and I don't grudge them that. Nevertheless, I do
find myself reacting differently sometimes. I can relate to how Madhu
feels, but I draw the line in a very different place, and more softly.

People who use pseudonyms range from people like lawnun and bonobashi,
who use their nicknames consistently but make no effort to keep their
real identity a secret; to people who use nicknames but whose identity
is unknown to me, and not obvious from their communications; to people
who, for lack of a better way to explain, make a big deal of keeping
their identity a secret. (Again, this is a spectrum, and not discrete
classes; there are plenty of people who lie in between.)

In general, I don't react negatively to pseudonyms at all, even when I
don't know who the people behind them are. But I find myself becoming
more and more uncomfortable as I approach the hardcore anonymity end
of the scale. I've felt guilty about that, and trained myself to not be
bothered about it to the extent that I can cooperate with such people.
But I would definitely be more comfortable speaking to someone named
Udhay. (There have been people elsewhere on the scale who made me
uncomfortable in the past, but I can't think of any examples now.)

When I say react negatively, I mean to the name itself. Of course, I
don't *like* some of the people who use pseudonyms, but I don't dislike
them *because* they use pseudonyms (of that I'm sure). Still, I can't be
entirely sure that if I don't like someone (for any other reason), their
place on the pseudonymity scale doesn't reinforce my not liking them. In
other words, I may be less forgiving of an annoying pseudonymous person
than of an annoying nymous person. I do know that I'm less bothered by
pseudonymity on lists I don't think of as work, but that difference
is usually quite small.

Aside: . should classify with lawnun and bonobashi, but it bothers me
because I can't read or write it as a word. It's a syntactical problem,
though, not one of identity: va was better, but so would qx be. I'm
just not comfortable writing ., to address a person, but apart from
that it goes in the bonobashi pile, and I have no problem with it.

I can also relate to how Deepa feels in posting to a list where she
doesn't know who else the subscribers are. I have to do that all the
time, of course, so I've become used to it; but I've noticed that the
reluctance is still there somewhere, sometimes.

-- ams

P.S. It really bothers me that it took eight paragraphs to explain how I
feel about this, and then quite poorly, with a fair bit of handwaving.
Oh well. Life would be different if everyone used serial numbers.



[silk] roopkund

2009-05-21 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Anyone been up to Roopkund, and beyond? (e.g. Homkund)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Best Science book you would recommend to a friend ?

2009-05-12 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-05-12 12:58:08 +0530, j...@pobox.com wrote:

 Does anyone else have a problem with the fora.tv server dropping the
 connection every few seconds?

Yes. wget -c handled it, though I had to restart it once (after it
reached its dropped connection limit and gave up).

-- ams



[silk] projectors

2009-04-04 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
If I want to buy a projector that is good for showing films to a small
(10 people) audience, what should I be looking for? Price is the major
consideration, but not the only one.

-- ams



[silk] modem phones

2009-04-04 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
I want to get a phone that can be used as a USB and Bluetooth modem with
Linux. I had a Nokia E61 for a while, and it worked well (as a modem; as
a phone, it was extraordinarily slow and painful). I want to replace it
with something (much) cheaper.

Many of the new(-ish) Nokia phones might fit the bill, but does anyone
have specific recommendations? And does anyone think one of the other
manufacturers (about whose phones I know nothing) has a better phone?

Price is definitely the major consideration here. I'm not going to use
it for anything but mobile connectivity, so any value additions are a
complete waste of time.

-- ams



Re: [silk] modem phones

2009-04-04 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-04-04 17:47:43 -0700, sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 In such a case you're better off with a pcmcia or usb data card.

A USB data card sounds good. I should have known that such things must
exist. I knew about PCMCIA ones, but I don't have a PCMCIA slot. Do you
have any recommendations? Or should I just get whatever $noname card I
can find in Nehru Place?

(Do you put your SIM card inside the USB thingy, or what?)

Thanks.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Street photography

2009-03-11 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2009-03-11 21:59:28 +0530, j...@pobox.com wrote:

 Several of the photos I've processed this month were done with F-Spot
 and UFRaw on an Ubuntu netbook. It's totally practical.

http://www.rawtherapee.com also looks pretty good.

-- ams



[silk] trekking in the western ghats

2009-02-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
What should two people in Coorg with a tent and a few days free in early
June do? (Other than go somewhere with less rain, that is.)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Any Desmond Morris fans/critics here ?

2008-12-29 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-12-29 09:07:14 +0530, dhingra.may...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am contemplating buying his book Peoplewatching
 %20http://tr.im/2p8b on Body Language, has anyone here read it ?

Yes. It's excellent. So are Animalwatching and Bodywatching.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Pet Peeves and Pedantry, was: How Risky Is India?

2008-12-19 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-12-19 00:07:18 +, bluelull...@gmail.com wrote:

 offer open till stocks last

If you add an apostrophe to stocks and parse last as an adjective
instead of a verb, it all makes sense. ;-)

-- ams



Re: [silk] Pet Peeves and Pedantry, was: How Risky Is India?

2008-12-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-12-18 11:40:27 -0800, divyasamp...@yahoo.com wrote:

 If you are nostalgic about my outbursts of linguistic pedantry on
 Silk, we can go into why the 'h' in 'hour', 'honour' and 'honest' are
 silent, and why this is not the case with 'history' or 'hippopotamus'.

Yes! Do tell.

 Permit me to offer up a favourite gripe of my own:

And here are some of mine: the use of hopefully to mean I hope that,
nauseous to mean nauseated, and in Delhi, until to mean while.
(Yes, really. We can't have the meeting until he's not well.)

-- ams



Re: [silk] snow peak panoramas

2008-12-12 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-12-11 06:23:04 +0530, chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like it too. Handheld? Tripod/Handy human?

Thanks. Handheld. One quick West-to-East pass at 300mm (discarded), then
backtracking at 150mm (which exposures I could use).

 But the last few panoramas I did were manually stitched using
 Photoshop. Takes a lot of time I don't have, but I am very happy
 with the final result.

Where?

-- ams



[silk] snow peak panoramas

2008-12-10 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
On a trip to mountains some time ago, I took an entirely unplanned
series of photographs of the view to the North; and used Hugin and
Autopano-SIFT (for the first time) to stitch them together into a
panorama.

I'm not entirely happy with the result (and I know now how to do better
next time, later this month), but since it was done on the spur of the
moment, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out:

http://toroid.org/misc/peaks-1.jpeg
http://toroid.org/misc/peaks-2.jpeg

http://toroid.org/misc/peaks-named.jpeg is the same as peaks-2 above,
but it has the names of some peaks added in. If anyone can help me to
identify more peaks, especially the ones to the West of the Nanda Devi
sanctuary in peaks-1, I'd be very grateful.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Restaurants in Hyderabad

2008-12-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-12-03 12:56:15 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The wholesale tomato market was in full swing

How much were they selling tomatoes for?

-- ams



Re: [silk] When I Have The Time

2008-11-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-11-17 15:40:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd rather ask it this way: can we rationally explain our morals
 without stating it as a *belief* that something is right or wrong?
 I can't.

Doesn't that depend on what your morals are?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Intro

2008-11-02 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-11-02 11:22:03 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Am a GTD-freak
 
 What is a GTD? (Goodness To ...something?)

Getting things done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_Things_Done
It's a sort of efficiency cult, as opposed to the Make things go away
so I don't have to do them cult, of which I am a member.

 Speaking of which, what is that little grape-like thing hanging
 between the i matra and the letter ha in the Hindi rendition of
 your name? Or is it something that only shows up on my computer?

It doesn't show up on mine, but I notice that gnome-terminal renders
Hindi really badly in other ways (the spacing is inconsistent and the
line is broken, in this case).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Food and Empire

2008-09-28 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-28 20:07:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * amit_123 just cannot locate edible chappathi in Chennai

Not just that, but those Madrasis think it's spelled chappathi.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Food and Empire

2008-09-26 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-26 08:27:18 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even now, it is difficult to find White / Ash gourd in (South) Delhi
 markets;

Where did you guys go shopping where it was hard to find petha? I've
seen it in *every* vegetable market I've ever lived close to. It is
certainly available in Lajpat Nagar, INA Market, Vasant Kunj, and
all over Mayur Vihar (where I now live).

-- ams



Re: [silk] Food and Empire

2008-09-25 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-25 10:20:10 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and banana flower, though i haven't tried to cook that myself yet.

Speaking of which, we ate some Mochar ghonto at this restaurant in CR
Park (called Babu Moshai) some time ago, and were quite disappointed.
I had high hopes, because I like it so much, and haven't had any for a
long time. Even their Alu posto was quite sad.

-- ams



Re: [silk] RAND: 11 emerging challenges

2008-09-18 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-18 08:40:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No amounts of lolcats will cogitoergosum spontaneously.

But... what about a lolrus?

-- ams



Re: [silk] introduction...

2008-09-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-17 16:48:10 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 samosas otoh is a north-indian monstrosity...  ;-)

Yes! Would you believe people put *paneer* in them in Delhi? Ugh.

-- ams



Re: [silk] introduction...

2008-09-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-17 22:22:47 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Suggestion : another shell pun and the perpetrator be locked up
 inside an rsh :-P

You've bourne all you can today?

-- ams



Re: [silk] introduction...

2008-09-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-09-17 13:19:09 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that can be awkward, or so it is sed.

Oh, cut it out. There's no col for that sort of thing any more. Less
talk about something else, man. Apropos of which, it horrifies me to
observe that:

$ ls -1 /usr/bin|wc -l 
2219

-- ams



Re: [silk] Canon L series lens

2008-05-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-05-03 14:19:38 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 General photography... thats why I want something with a zoom range...

Then the 100-400 ought to be good for you.

(Note that although it's small for a real telephoto lens, it's a lot
larger and heavier than ordinary lenses. You should try it out first
if you can, just so you aren't surprised.)

Another alternative is the 70-200/4L IS.

 Yeah the 170-500 with optical stabilisation is the one i was thinkin
 of...

As far as I know, there is no Sigma 170-500 with OS. There are the newly
announced 150-500 OS and 120-400 OS, which are not yet available; and an
older 80-400 OS. I can't comment about the image quality of any of those
lenses, though I'm very interested in the new 150-500 OS lens.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Canon L series lens

2008-05-02 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Hi ashok underscore.

At 2008-05-02 19:43:22 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am looking for a L Series lens for my Canon...

(I'm assuming you mean an L-series telephoto lens.)

 Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM
 http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100-400mm-f4-5-5-6L-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B7GQLS/
 
 any first hand opinions ?

I've used it. It's decent. The handling took a bit of getting used to
(it's a push-pull-type zoom, with a separate ring to adjust the tension
of the zoom mechanism), but it worked pretty well.

Other lenses in the same price range are the 400/5.6L (very sharp, very
fast autofocus, quite small and light, no IS) and the 300/4L IS+1.4x, a
surprisingly handy combination. Both are significantly better than the
100-400 in terms of image quality and handling (but of course the zoom
comes with its own advantages).

What are you planning to use the lens for? If it's birds, I'd recommend
the 400/5.6L over the 100-400 (it's even cheaper than the latter). If it
is for general photography, I'd pick the 100-400 for the zoom range.

 is this significantly better than a good Sigma lens ?

Which Sigma lens in particular do you have in mind? They vary.

The 170-500 is slow and has no IS (which Sigma calls OS, for Optical
Stabilisation) and is supposed to be soft. The 50-500 is much better
optically, but is big and doesn't have OS.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-15 14:57:53 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Just use the Spanish system. It scales...
 
 and that would be, what?

http://klamath.stanford.edu/~molinero/html/surname.html

-- ams



Re: [silk] Reverses....

2008-04-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-15 14:44:14 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When hyphenated individuals marry they become a double hyphenated
 couple, and when their offspring [...]

This is a story I've always heard while I was growing up (in Bengal).
I'm somewhat disappointed to note, however, that I haven't found many
double-hyphenated potential partners since.

In fact, the only relevant double-hyphenate I know is Rishab, and I
suspect, somehow, that he doesn't want to have my babies to further
the cause of quadratic hyphenation.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Laptop recommendations

2008-04-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-15 20:40:06 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My current top choice is the TP X60s.

I can recommend the ThinkPad X6* without reservation for use with Linux,
and I think the hardware is fantastic.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Laptop recommendations

2008-04-15 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-15 16:51:12 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why not a MacBook?

Macbooks are heavy, and my impression is that the hardware (while very
nice, feature-wise) isn't as robust as the ThinkPads. If mobility is a
major consideration, then I personally wouldn't pick a MacBook.

(Obviously, there are a lot of people who disagree with me.)

 I believe you can install Linux on a Mac...

Yeah, but it seems a bit pointless.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India

2008-04-10 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-11 11:01:56 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i tried Mexican at TGIF in Connaught Place in Delhi (where I am now
 based) and it was OK

Ten, at the YWCA on Parliament Street in Delhi, serves Mexican food
(Quesadillas, especially) that I enjoyed eating; but I have never
had an opportunity to sample authentic Mexican food.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-07 12:07:33 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if it's Delhites, Delhi-ites or something else entirely,
 though. AMS?

I haven't seen the word written down too often, but it's always _said_
as if it were Delhi-ites.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-06 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-04-06 01:40:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so she finally got into SPV, my alma mater (well, before i dropped
 out at 12). hindi medium, cultural, gujarati, enough clues

Another clue: going to Khan Market after the interview.

-- ams, who was also at SPV.



Re: [silk] Lost and Found

2008-02-28 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-27 22:58:39 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The officer gruffly said that I should do whatever.

For a moment there, I almost thought there might be some advantage to
being a large male human when it comes to driving inspectors, but then
I realised that a fine upstanding public official is hardly likely to
have been biased thus.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Lost and Found

2008-02-27 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-27 20:57:14 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Suppose each of us were to follow up any one of our dealings with the
 government in the fair, honest, right and proper way, no matter how
 long it takes - would that be a way to participate in the machinery?

When I wanted to get a driver's license (in 1999), everyone told me to
go to one of the many driving schools, which would get me the license
without the hassle of going to the RTO.

Off I went to a driving school, where the proprietor was very rude to me
(though I forget exactly how). I was sufficiently annoyed that I decided
to get the license the right way, i.e. by going to the nearest RTO and
writing the test and whatnot.

Well, it was really simple. I got the right forms, filled them in, gave
the (hilarious, multiple-choice[1]) exam for a learner's license, then
returned some months later to get my license, found out that they had
accidentally issued a motorcycle learner's license earlier, got them to
fix that (which they did with a minimum of fuss: it's the same test for
either), got a medical certificate from a doctor sitting around nearby,
gave my (embarrassingly simple[2]) driving test, and got my license the
next day.

It was dreadfully satisfying to get my license the Right Way, when
*everyone* I knew had paid a driving school to get it for them.

(Hi Anjana. Welcome to silk.)

-- ams

1. What would you do if you are speeding downhill?
   c) Grip the steering wheel more tightly

2. I went to the empty, closed-off parking lot where the examiner was,
   and realised that he expected me to bring the car there. I told him
   to wait, went to the outside parking lot and brought the car over. I
   got out of the car, and he signed my form, and sent me on my way.



Re: [silk] IHT.com Article: First transsexual celebrity, Rose, makes a TV debut

2008-02-27 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-28 10:48:00 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, now that everyone's confessing their music-learning crimes, let
 me state mine. It has a happy beginning.

Heh, me too.

I went to the Calcutta School of Music for several months one summer to
learn the (western classical) violin from an old chap named Joe Braganza
(IIRC). I enjoyed it a lot, though HE may not have.

Then I stopped going to classes, for various schedule-related reasons,
and we moved shortly afterwards, and I never picked it up again, which
I've often regretted.

 I think I should start again.

Yeah.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Youtube an .pk Telecom

2008-02-26 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-26 11:57:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why does shrinking the number of addresses create 'priority' as far
 as the BGP is concerned?  Is there some merit to fewer addresses, as
 opposed to more?

Routers give priority to more specific routes over less-specific ones.
Announcing a route for 10/24 (aka the network containing 255 addresses
from 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.255) is more specific than announcing a route
for 10/16 (i.e. the 65535 addresses from 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.255.255).

This is so that an ISP can say Send traffic for this whole network to
me, while the ISP's customers can say Send traffic for my small part
of the ISP's network to me (that is, if they run BGP at all) and it
all works.

-- ams



Re: [silk] get-together in Delhi?

2008-02-11 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-11 13:48:12 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Conclave is in/around Nehru Place, I think.

Yes, it's in Nehru Enclave, which is across the road from Nehru Place.

Are you in Delhi too? Do you want to join us?

Can anyone think of a good place for dinner not too far from NP?

-- ams



Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-11 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-11 07:53:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Arabic and Devanagari? i have only ever seen the kannada script(what
 is it called?) and English.

The Kannada script is called Kannada. It's a distant descendant of
Brahmi. (But note that Devdas is talking about BEST, i.e. Bombay
buses, not the ones in Bangalore.)

-- ams



[silk] a standard XML representation for queries

2008-02-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
I'm looking for a simple way to represent a search query as XML.

The query language applies to email messages, and is a superset of the
IMAP SEARCH syntax. It can express things like flag blah is set, and
the subject contains foo, and the text contains bar or baz: a handful
of primitives plus the usual logical combinators.

I want to take that query (stored internally as an sexpr-style string)
and render it as XML. I don't really care what the output looks like, I
only need to be able to manipulate its structure with some JavaScript,
and then send it back to the server.

Of course, I could just sprinkle some  and  around and come up with
something; but I'm wondering if there's something around that is meant
to be used for such purposes already. It's hard to ask Google for such
a thing (because of e.g. XQuery and XPath) and so far I have failed to
explain what I want to people who know more about XML than I do.

Why XML? Because it has to be something. I don't care, I just want to
be able to simply edit it with JavaScript.

Any thoughts? (Tim?)

-- ams



Re: [silk] long

2008-02-08 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-08 08:11:07 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 misri or chini - white crystalline sugar

If chini is Chinese, is misri Egyptian?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introduction

2008-02-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-07 20:15:05 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 apropos of which...could sugar have come from China, to get that name?

No, actually it's exactly backwards. China got sugar from India, which
might have been where sugar was first cultivated. The origin of 'chini'
is not clear, but I seem to remember that it had something to do with
cinnamon.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introduction

2008-02-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-07 20:23:00 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, actually it's exactly backwards. China got sugar from India, which
 might have been where sugar was first cultivated. The origin of 'chini'
 is not clear, but I seem to remember that it had something to do with
 cinnamon.

I refreshed my vague memory:

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Cinn_cas.html

The unclear parts are the ultimate etymological origin of cinnamon and
(at least to me) what the link is between cinnamon and sugar that would
cause similar terms to be used; but it seems very unlikely that the word
means something other than from China for sugar.

Ironic, isn't it? China got sugar from India, and the word sugar is
itself apparently derived from Sanskrit; but Indian languages call
sugar Chini because cinnamon came to India from China.

-- ams



Re: [silk] long

2008-02-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-08 08:32:33 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disaster

I am a terrible human being, because I find that description very funny.

   «The collapse unleashed an immense wave of molasses between 8 and 15
ft (2.5 to 4.5 m) high, moving at 35 mph (56 km/h) and exerting a
pressure of 2 ton/ft² (200 kPa).»

Did Wikipedia exist in 1919? I can just imagine a bunch of Wikipedia
editors running from the wave while arguing about the best way to
measure its velocity.

-- ams



Re: [silk] greetings and salutations

2008-02-07 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Hi Brian, nice to see you on silk.

At 2008-02-03 23:27:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to be in India for the next two weeks [...]

 Feb 14-15: Delhi (OSIweek)

I didn't write earlier because I wasn't sure I would be around while you
were in town. But I'm leaving only on the 15th (also for the mountains,
but NE of Delhi rather than NW, as Dharamsala is). If you're still free
on the 14th evening, I'd love to meet up.

Can't have you thinking that everyone on silk is from Bangalore. ;-)

 Feb 16-17: Dharmsala (fun)

Short trip, but should be nice. How will you get to Dharamsala, by train
via Pathankot? Are you going up to Macleodganj?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introduction

2008-02-06 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-07 12:18:43 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - My daughter's sock (?!)

Oh no! Did your daughter fall off the table?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introduction

2008-02-06 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-07 13:11:17 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fair guess, following from NS1.TOROID.ORG

The camera bag is mine, too.

-- ams



Re: [silk] Introduction

2008-02-06 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-07 08:54:46 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  HP LP3065 30 LCD - mwahahahaha
 
 Dell WFP2407-HC, and a 19 as dual-head. Damn you!

Damn both of you! I have only a solitary 17 Samsung SyncMaster 713N.
I tried two 17 LCDs for a while, but the only dual-head video card I
could find had one analog and one DVI output, and using a DVI-to-VGA
converter degraded image quality terribly. I was very disappointed.

-- ams



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