CS>URGENT--need info about silver-compatible humidifier

2008-10-08 Thread Nenah Sylver
I need to disperse some CS into the air right away for a coughing dog. Is Walgreen's personal ultrasonic humidifier still the one of choice? In reading through my files on it, it's still unclear as to whether the filter should be left on or off. We bought a humidifier from Wal-Mart (not Walgree

CS>Silver Ions

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Dear Silver List, As to regards to my earlier post about Silver Ions vs Metallic Particles 1: Med Eng Phys. 2007 Dec 7. [Epub ahead of print] Links Colloidal silver fabrication using the spark discharge system and its antimicrobial effect on Staphylococcus aureus. Tien DC, Tseng KH, Liao CY, T

CS>Re: Blue Nails.

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Dear Marshall, You wrote: "I am not sure why you posted all this. All that is known, and has already been discussed." Why did I post this? There are more people with Cyanosis in the US than with Argyria. Not everyone reads every Silver List. And what about any person who may have joined? I

Re: CS>RE Mesosilver/Ionic Silver Debate.

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Wow. Thanks for the info. Impressive pulling that together. I am on a BB so reviewing the links will have to wait till tomorrow but I really appreciate the data. I feel like I am always at at ball game but without a program. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Steven Foss To: silver

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Indi
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 10:19:57PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > On 10/8/2008 5:52:17 PM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: > > And if we can keep the incidental mention of Christ and Christian from > > becoming a discussion of religion, as opposed to > > Dee's "aerobic > > oxygen",

CS>RE Mesosilver/Ionic Silver Debate.

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Dear Steve N. Here is some quick and dirty cut and paste to answer your question. I think the information you are looking for is at http://www.hydrosolinfo.com/articles/silver-2005-01-07.php John W. Roberts, Ph.D. of Natural-Immunogenics Corp (a competitor of MesoSilver) performed an experime

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Indi
> > It was going on 7 years ago, right? I barely remember the > episode, but the report as written has all the hallmarks of one who > lost their argument because of their own inability to behave in a > civilized fashion. > > I only rarely ban anyone, and I've never been an accomplice to Frank

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread cking001
On 10/8/2008 5:52:17 PM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: > And if we can keep the incidental mention of Christ and Christian from > becoming a discussion of religion, as opposed to > Dee's "aerobic > oxygen", I will be most impressed! > > ... And grateful. > > Peace, > > Mike D. > Ou

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Mike, I am glad you see the humor in it. I was particularly concerned about the claim that you are a self proclaimed Libertarian..Not that there is anything wrong with that. But I do want you to know that it is legal for two Libertarians to marry here in California and we are proud of it

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread M. G. Devour
And if we can keep the incidental mention of Christ and Christian from becoming a discussion of religion, as opposed to Dee's "aerobic oxygen", I will be most impressed! ... And grateful. Peace, Mike D. > I think the operative word here was 'organised'. dee > > Dave wrote: > > Does that m

Re: CS>Cystic Fibrosis/Lung disease - Some medical support for CS.

2008-10-08 Thread M. G. Devour
David cites the following: > In the case of a 12 year old boy with cystic fibrosis, doctors > recently reported the case of 'sustained improvement in the symptoms' > coinciding with the use of colloidal silver purchased from a local > health shop with CF > I have a copy of the report. Basicall

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Clayton Family
i thought it was funny too... On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Norton, Steve wrote: Kathryn, I included the claim because I though it was humorous. While I haven't been on the list long it is clear that Mike is tolerant if anything. I think it would take a lot to get banned. He also gives warnin

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread M. G. Devour
Steven quotes the following report: > > One of Frank's accomplices, Mike Devour, a self-proclaimed > > libertarian and owner of the Silver List, promptly banned Stuart from > > further participation on the forum for life. Indi writes: > That's rather discouraging, if true. It was going on 7 ye

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Kathryn, I included the claim because I though it was humorous. While I haven't been on the list long it is clear that Mike is tolerant if anything. I think it would take a lot to get banned. He also gives warnings privately in advance. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Clayton Fami

Re: CS>MRSA and other Bad things

2008-10-08 Thread M. G. Devour
As I recall reading somewhere, the iron in those people's bodies was sequestered in the cells as a defensive measure by the body, in order to lower the serum iron levels as much as possible, even to the point of creating anemia. I don't remember if it was parasites or some other microbial infec

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-08 Thread Indi
> Ode Coyote wrote: > > At 10:49 AM 10/6/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >> At 05:47 PM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >> > >>> Typically, if you have real CS (i.e. *not* ionic silver) there > >>> will be a small amount of ionic silver. > > > > > > > >>> This can be mostly eliminated by > >>> exposure to

Re: CS>The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

2008-10-08 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Kurt, You write: > Looks like you missed something: Actually, Kurt, Kirsteen is exactly right. That *is* in there: - Original Message - From: Lifeforce To: AB Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Fw: The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Also, are there "ionic gold" issues? Thanks, Steve N - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008 Subject: CS>Colloidal gold Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses vinegar as a starter for the fir

CS>Colloidal gold

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with starters for CG like there is with CS? - Steve N http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for d

RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I think) http://www.colloidalgold.info/ - Steve N -Original Message- From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Clayton Family
Gee, Mike, I didn't know you were an "accomplice" (sweet smile) And Steve, I heard that ALL the archives were lost, in a computer problem. There are no archives for anyone, except what an individual might have in their own program Also, our "Steeley Eyed List Owner" has banned others too

RE: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Apparently my comments are not easy to identify from the original message. For the record, the following are comments I made. - Steve N I agree. Maybe someone here knows something relative to that claim. One thing about CS, there are always surprises. [Steve N] It doesn't bother me but I

Re: CS>Ionic Silver transport throught the digestive tract an into the cells.

2008-10-08 Thread larry tankersley
Now that is interesting! Where did you come up with that? larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo

RE: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
-Original Message- From: Indi [mailto:indule...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:17:30PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: > > Just so you know, it is ionic silver that act

Re: CS>Re: CS and Blue Moons

2008-10-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Steven Foss wrote: Hi Silver List, Did I read this correctly, is the writer inferring that People with Blue Moons have Argyria? I only briefly perused this posting, however, "Blue Moons" in the Finger Nails have many possible causes besides Argyria. Hypoxia or the lack of oxygen is often

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Indi
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:17:30PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: > > Just so you know, it is ionic silver that actually works - not > colloidal silver. The value of having the silver initially in > colloidal form is to get it past the stomach acids in the digestion > process. Colloidal silver conver

CS>Ionic Silver transport throught the digestive tract an into the cells.

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Hi Silver List. Taking Colloidal Silver by mouth (and with food) raises the point of metalloproteins. "Your saliva has over 200 different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are metalloproteins I.E. carrying metallic ions. Thus, reactive ions (missing one or more electrons) can be t

CS>Re: CS and Blue Moons

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Hi Silver List, Did I read this correctly, is the writer inferring that People with Blue Moons have Argyria? I only briefly perused this posting, however, "Blue Moons" in the Finger Nails have many possible causes besides Argyria. Hypoxia or the lack of oxygen is often manifested in a condit

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
This is really interesting Steve; one for saving. dee Norton, Steve wrote: Ode, Thanks for the interesting reply. I had seen your references to Frank Key before but I did not make the connection to the Efficiency chart. Trying to look into the issue further turned up some fascinating informatio

RE: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
Ode, Thanks for the interesting reply. I had seen your references to Frank Key before but I did not make the connection to the Efficiency chart. Trying to look into the issue further turned up some fascinating information. For example, here is a later comment made by the person who posted the link

Re: CS>MRSA

2008-10-08 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Indi, You could try pulsing CS. Like one day on one day off. Or three days on one day off. When I was doing CS a lot I'd take it during the week and stop for the weekends ; 5 days on 2 days off was what seemed to work well for me. If you do kineseology or any form of dowsing you could find y

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
I think the operative word here was 'organised'. dee Dave wrote: Does that mean he didn't believe in himself ? Ode Coyote wrote: Point valid. Except, Jesus wasn't a Christian. He may have even been anti any religion...almost certainly not *for* any organized church. ode -- Th

CS>RE: Silver non-neurotoxicity.

2008-10-08 Thread Steven Foss
Hi Silver List, Re Silver and non-neurotoxicity: Below is an abstract of an vitro (test-tube) trial in which Colloidal Silver showed protective against the type of free radical damage (Reactive Oxygen Species) caused by chemotherapy and observed in some forms of neuro-degenerative illnesses.

Re: CS>Concern

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
This is true sol. Just me having a slight panic attack - I have recovered my logic again now I just won't mention anything. I have been having a disastrous week; broadband not working, things going wrong in general so have been not my normal logical self. My silver also has gone on the blin

Re: CS>The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

2008-10-08 Thread kmilkowski
Looks like you missed something: Paralytic poliomyelitis, or polio, is a neurological disease caused by the enterovirus known as poliovirus Kurt Kirsteen Wright wrote: > On 10/8/08, Dee wrote: > > > > this is a real eye opener Kurt. dee > > > Yes I never realised sugar caused polio. "

Re: CS>The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

2008-10-08 Thread kmilkowski
I hope so. Kurt Dee wrote: > this is a real eye opener Kurt. dee > > kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: > > 20081006-1011 > > THINK ABOUT IT ! > > > > ALL THE FOLLOWING IS NOT NEW AT ALL, BUT IT IS BEST TO KEEP REPEATING > > IT TO THE DEAF EARS AND BLIND EYES OF THE WORLD'S 6.7

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
I think it means 'stabilized' oxygen. dee Dan Nave wrote: Calling oxygen "aerobic" is like calling Jesus a "Christian"... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, addr

Re: CS>The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

2008-10-08 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 10/8/08, Dee wrote: > > this is a real eye opener Kurt. dee Yes I never realised sugar caused polio. " refined sugar...which is the primary cause of polio". Absolutely amazing that polio's declined considering the massive increase in consumption of refined sugar. I'd love to see the studies

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Clayton Family
LOL You really got me there! I was reading along, innocently following the poitn, and whammo! Thanks, Marshall! Now, can Chuck make this into a good tagline? kathryn On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Dan Nave wrote: Calling oxygen "aerobic" is like calling Jesus a "Chri

Re: CS>The Terrible Consequences of Mass Innoculation with Polio Vaccines

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
this is a real eye opener Kurt. dee kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com wrote: 20081006-1011 THINK ABOUT IT ! ALL THE FOLLOWING IS NOT NEW AT ALL, BUT IT IS BEST TO KEEP REPEATING IT TO THE DEAF EARS AND BLIND EYES OF THE WORLD'S 6.7 BILLION FOOLS (ALSO CALLED "CITIZENS"). -- The Silver L

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-08 Thread Dee
Yet another example of mis-information taken as gospel perhaps? dee Ode Coyote wrote: At 10:49 AM 10/6/2008 -0400, you wrote: At 05:47 PM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote: Typically, if you have real CS (i.e. *not* ionic silver) there will be a small amount of ionic silver. This can be mostl

RE: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Dan Nave
I tend to agree. From my experience, the taste of the EIS is very slightly metallic, but if you shake off the buildup on the cathode into the mixture, the taste is metallic in the extreme. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] > Sent: Wednesday, Octob

RE: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Dan Nave
That is my point, he was not a Christian. Christians consider him to be "Christ." Oxygen is not aerobic. It is Oxygen. Dan > -Original Message- > From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:11 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: CS>a

RE: CS>Chlorine Dioxide to Kill Mold

2008-10-08 Thread Dan Nave
Use the West Marine M-D-G Mildew Odor Control Bags about $10. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10 001/3849/377%20710/0/mildew/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0? N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=mildew&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpart ial&Nao=0&Ns=0&ke

Re: CS>Blue Moons in "Earth Abides"

2008-10-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A remarkable novel, "Earth Abides," is well worth anyone's time; most who have read it consider it a classic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Abides I mention this novel apropos the "blue moons" thread for one reason: one small part of the book suggests to me t

Re: CS>Concern

2008-10-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
I agree. Blue moons is not argyria. It could certainly have a genetic factor or be related to diet, such as a selenium deficiency. Since both my wife and I got it, maybe not genetic, but with my son as well, maybe so. It does not concern me at all, I much rather have blue moons than be sick w

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dan Nave wrote: Calling oxygen "aerobic" is like calling Jesus a "Christian"... Dan You lost me here. Since Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian (which did not exist until 400 AD), are you saying that oxygen is NOT aerobic, but the foundation of aerobicism or something? Marshall -- The Si

CS>Homeschooling

2008-10-08 Thread barbara magnatta
THANK GOD it's legal again!  Sincerely, Barb M. - Original Message From: "Norton, Steve" To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:42:14 AM Subject: RE: CS>MRSA and CS The homeschooling decision was reversed in the state appeals court. As of now, homeschooling

Re: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Dave
Does that mean he didn't believe in himself ? Ode Coyote wrote: Point valid. Except, Jesus wasn't a Christian. He may have even been anti any religion...almost certainly not *for* any organized church. ode At 12:41 PM 10/7/2008 -0500, you wrote: Calling oxygen "aerobic" is like cal

RE: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-08 Thread Norton, Steve
The homeschooling decision was reversed in the state appeals court. As of now, homeschooling is legal in California. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>MRSA

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-08 Thread Clayton Family
I just heard that homeschooling has become illegal in california, don't know if it is true... When my kids were little, I had a pretty good relationship with their doc, I did not know about cs, and did not believe too much in the herbs etc. It was when it all stopped working, I ran into the wa

Re: CS>CS Efficiency Measurements

2008-10-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Who says it's low? Frank Key doesn't say it's low, just that he thinks it's a colloid [colloidal portion] doing the job, meaning, the job is getting done.based on what he DOESN'T say he found after finding no ionic silver in the bloodstream with an ion selective probe. ie He says wh

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-08 Thread Ode Coyote
In that case, you may have to become a Morman? A doc you don't go to can't turn you in. Home schooling is legal, last I heard...and school, a disease ridden cess pit. The Aspirin bottle has advise: 'Keep away from children" That may go for kids as well as you. ..the more that gather in

RE: CS>aerobic oxygen

2008-10-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Point valid. Except, Jesus wasn't a Christian. He may have even been anti any religion...almost certainly not *for* any organized church. ode At 12:41 PM 10/7/2008 -0500, you wrote: Calling oxygen "aerobic" is like calling Jesus a "Christian"... Dan > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: CS>avoid the docs

2008-10-08 Thread Ode Coyote
If you avoid them, you'll have to educate yourself. If you educate yourself, you can tell them what to do. ..and may never need to. But if you DO need to, you are in charge. Demand waivers. If you are in charge, you can't sue them. People tend to get more reasonable when they aren't afraid of y