lement manufacturers will not be able to afford to
comply and will go out of business.
This is a far bigger threat to the survival of the dietary supplement
industry than CODEX!
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cause the resulting file exceeded the size limits
of the silver-list, the page is was put on the silver-colloids.com website.
Here is a link to that page:
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I stand corrected.
That set up should work fine for the home hobbyist.
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Marshall wrote:
Can that be produced the same way as colloidal silver electrolytically?
No, it can not be made by electrolysis. We make it by the Mesoprocess. There
is no home method to make it that I am aware of.
See: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesoplatinum.htm
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Marshal wrote:
If you are doing any naked mice studies, here is one that I would really
like
to see done...
So, where does one get naked mice?
Just kidding!
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x27;t they? And what about total surface area of the
particulates?
My position is expressed on the following pages:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Howtocompare.html
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html
Fran
Sol wrote:
Frank, and Jason,
Have test results shown that "Water Oz" silver product to be a pure EIS
type product or is it a silver salt or MSP of some kind? I am unclear
WaterOZ Ionic Silver is silver citrate, at 100 ppm silver, last we tested.
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WaterOZ suffers from
argyria he got from using the Ionic Silver product produced by his own
company. High concentrations (100 ppm) of ionic silver will cause argyria.
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very low
particle concentrations below approx. 1 ppm. This assumes sub-nanometer
particle size.
If you have ever found a true colloid that is clear with a particle
concentration above 1 ppm I would like to test it in the lab as we have
never seen such a product.
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Excellent article on a common pathogenic mycoplasma.
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that silver kills MRSA:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/EMSL/SaureusMRSA.pdf
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le to assume that
the compound is in fact silver chloride.
The presence of ammonia in blood serum is 0.17 - 0.80 ppm which is not
sufficient to support any meaningful ability to dissolve silver chloride.
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Silver citrate forms silver chloride when combined with chloride in the
stomach the same as any solution containing silver cations. Any water
soluble silver salt such as silver nitrate will behave the same way.
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% to 25% particles depending on process
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You can get the patent from the US Patent Office once you have the number.
You should be able to request the patent number from the company.
Their patent does not cover the HVAC cone method, nor could it due to "prior
art".
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ry, this page was moved to:
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also added a refresh page so that the old link now works as well.
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ilver oxide and carbon dioxide. Silver
oxide is what makes the stain when a drop of ionic silver is left to
evaporate on a counter top.
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ich has a negative ionic charge
due to the extra electron. For every silver cation (+) that is formed
(dissolved) a corresponding "companion" anion(-) is formed such that the net
charge in the liquid is always zero.
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not be used to form a colloid.
This is a method for analysis purposes only and cannot be used to make a
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Ode wrote:
> I believe that Frank Key uses an ultra centrifuge to nail particles to
> the wall and AA Spec.
> Or maybe his Malvern Particle sizer does it all.
Details on the equipment we use are shown on this page:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labEquipment.htm
The centri
:
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g a centrifuge. Decant off the silver colloid and measure by atomic
absorption/emission spectroscopy to read the ppm of the silver particles.
3B. Precipitation - same as 3A but using sodium hydroxide to precipitate the
ions out as silver hydroxide.
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h
David Bearrow wrote:
> Were you able to determine what impurities were in the water that made its
> conductivity so high?
We do not do an analysis for the anions. We suspect it is most likely
nitrate.
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I never received any samples for testing.
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For those who have speculated about Nano Silver and asked us for an
analysis, you can find the lab report here:
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The "2000 ppm" silver product actually contains 1.73 ppm of silver.
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See Also: Ag, atomic number 47, atomic number 78, atomic number 79, Au,
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Bacteriology Study Results - Challenge tests were performed on bacterial and
fungal pathogens including Aspergillus niger, Candida Albicans, Escherichia
coli, Escherichia coli 0157H7 (hemorrhagic e.coli), Methicilian resistant
Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Staphylococcus aur
le learning experience for all.
About 4 ounces of each sample will suffice. A plastic bottle with a screw
top would be fine.
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I just need a few ounces sent to the CSL address on the website.
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Here is a testimonial from a user who got rid of pilonidal cysts::
http://www.mesosilver.com/mesosilver-testimonials.htm#pilonidal-cysts
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Subject: CS
h acid, below is a comment from Dr. Maass.
frank key
The Chemical Handbook lists the solubility of AgCl to be
0.89g/100 ml of pure water. This corresponds to 0.89 ppm, a small
enough number for every analytical book in the world to list AgCl as
insoluble.
If one calcula
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led through the
water when making ionic silver by electrolysis.
The small percentage of particles produced by electrolysis can be ionized
(turned into ions) by ozonating the water.
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asured by absorption/emission?
Silver can be detected in the bloodstream after ingesting ionic silver.
Because an ISE detects no silver ions it seems reasonable to speculate that
silver chloride is what is being detected.
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n that has an attraction to chloride as strong as silver
and chloride is the most prevalent anion in the human body. Blood serum
typically consists of 3300 to 3900 ppm of chloride. The attraction of all
other metal ions to chloride is weak by comparison to silver.
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metallic silver. The acids and other
substances that can ionize metallic silver are not found in the body.
This group may find it interesting that some silver products on the market
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that if it is ionic silver, why can't an ISE measure their
presence? Atomic
absorption/emission can detect the presence of silver in the blood, but the
ISE finds
no silver ions.
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Jodi Waldman wrote:
> I had a telephone conversation with Frank Key.
> He told me that ionic colloidal silver - the type of CS that is made by
all home CS generators,
> was basically useless according to his laboratory dish studies because
silver ions bind with
> sodium inside ou
means no
current run away? How?
Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.
I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.
frank
zed
silver particles will also prevent the lumber from rotting.
Silver has the added benefit that the wood does not become brittle like CCA
pressure treated lumber.
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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:05 AM
Subject: CS>Has anybody used CS for Shingles?
What is a heavy metal? It depends on who you ask!
According to Chemistry International Vol 23, No.6 November 2001 - "Heavy
Metals" - A Meaningless Term
Over the past two decades, the term "heavy metals" has been used increasingly
in various publications and in legislation related to chemica
WaterOZ Ionic silver is actually "silver citrate", usually 100-150 ppm and
is known to cause argyria.
The owner of the company got argyria from using this product according to an
individual who personally knows the owner.
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Marshall wrote:
> What does everyone think of the articles on colloidal minerals here?
> http://members.tripod.com/~Northup_Farms/Colloids.htm
It may make great plant food, but it is hard for me imagine why anyone would
want to ingest 107 ppm of aluminum in any form.
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35% is available from chemical companies.
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To:
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS stains on counter tops
> Thank you Frank, now the next obvious question :)Where do I obtain
35%
>
is an
industrial strength hydrogen peroxide solution.
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e reduction of 26%, Dr. Maass calculated that a
particle of 0.65 nm diameter would consist of 9 atoms.
We like to think of it as science, not hype.
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What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
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http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
CG claims are mental, some are phys
ption peak
is at 520 nm.
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>
> Marshall
>
> Arnold Beland wrote:
>
> > Thank you, Marshall, for publishing this very valuable data. May we
infer from this that the particle size of our home made sol, if it is clear,
is less than 40nm ? The fact that we have parti
he gelatin is needed because the particles are so large
that they would not stay suspended in water.
These products are known to cause argyria.
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/SEM-Images.htm
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It is the ions that impart the metallic taste. Silver particles have no
taste.
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- Original Message -
From: "S & J Young"
To: "Silver List"
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: CS>CS Metallic Taste
> Most of us can detect the
gt; saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a
> stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This
> would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts
> of the country.
> Reid
>
> Frank Key wrote:
> Ion Chromatograph
ientifically valid method
(atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have.
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From: "Ode Coyote"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>WaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
> If 13 PPM is the max ionic
.
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From: "Jonathan B. Britten"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: CS>WaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
> Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am
> not a chemist and can
rator" of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI
water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion
when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate
anion
We have not tested that product.
If you would send a factory sealed bottle, I will do the complete test suite
for publication on the Commercial Product Reports of silver-colloids.
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
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From: "James H
I don't recall doing zeta on that sample. If you want to send another
sample, I will do the size and zeta to help further your research.
frank key
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From: "Robert Berger"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: CS>A Good
aporates. What remains is particles of
silver oxide whose diameter is 1 - 3 nanometers. It is these particles which
predominate in TEM images made of silver colloid solutions which have a high
ionic content.
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From: "Marshall Dudley"
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pdf
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From: "Marshall Dudley"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>A Good Read
> According to them they use a process after the CS is made that puts a
charge on
> the particles. Did you do any zeta measure
on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown here:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: CS>A Good Read
Hello List,
C
products.
It is for good reason that many believe that the "silver protein" products
represent the worst example of products labeled as colloidal silver.
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queous animal protein solution (gelatin).
For more details including the particle size distribution plot and the FT-IR
spectra plot see:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr13/
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Brooks,
Have you tested any of the granulated kelp for content of toxic "heavy
metals", specifically, arsenic, mercury, and lead?
Would you please share a brand name you consider to be a "high quality"
kelp?
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ange. ITOP is not used to produce
our current products which have sub-nanometer particles.
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From: ascottsil...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
Aha! Now we know more abou
pulse repetition rates, peak pulse voltage in kilovolts. From the raw
data one could determine Coulombs, but we did not bother to do so.
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From: "Arnold Beland"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
> Hey
ainst them.
I do take exception to having my words twisted into unrecognizable and
inaccurate statements and then being attributed to me.
It is clear to me that no useful purpose is being served by further
exchange.
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To:
S
A NST is a constant current source once the rated output current is
achieved.
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From: "Harvey Norris"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: CS>Variac /NST/ Rectified CS cell trial
> July 8th NST "current limited"
Re: CS>testingWe will offer test your sample at no charge as a public service
if you would like to send us a sample.
Our lab uses an ICP/AES which is an atomic emission spectrometer. See:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/Equipment/VarianICP.html
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Colloidal Science Lab.
Expensive lab equipment has to earn its keep!
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From: "Jack Dayton"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: CS>testing
> Frank Key7/6/03 9:57 PM
>
> > I am, of course, biased in my recommend
See: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/
I am, of course, biased in my recommendation.
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: CS>testing
Hello all,
My name is Maryanne and this is the 2nd CS list I
ould not work. Then again, this
could all just be accidental, such as the invention of the filament light
bulb by Thomas Edison.
ITOP development was superceded by research that led to the development of
the Mesoprocess which produces sub-nanometer sized particles.
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arest source of electrons is the current passing through the
ionic solution.
> An electron cannot survive in solution. It would be grabbed by a
> H(+) ion. Any electrons released by the cathode are used by the H(+)
> ions to form hydrogen gas.
>
> So where do the ele
mutual repulsion is
created. Ions in close proximity will have a repulsive force of well over
one hundred thousand G-forces causing them to mutually repel each other.
There is no force strong enough to overcome this force. Brownian motion is
not sufficient.
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Atomic absorption/emission will measure "total silver" which includes ions
and particles.
Here is the equipment used at CSL:
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> From: "Reid H
nit can be found here:
http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/Equipment/L8-80M.html
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cools the cations are forced to
take an electron from a companion anion causing the cations to become atoms.
Atoms are pulled together by van der Waal's force forming particles.
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Small correction: 100 G-forces should have been written 100K G-forces. The
actual number is over 100,000 G-forces.
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> Frank Key wrote:
>
increases with temperature but will still be insufficient to overcome the
mutual repulsion of the ionic charge.
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e particles from growing larger.
The mutual repulsion of ions is over one hundred thousand G-forces when they
are within an atomic diameters of each other. There is no known force that
will overcome such a high mutual repulsive force.
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If your only means of determining the silver concentration is the
spectrophotometer how have you determined that the total silver in solution
is the same when the "spectrophotometer will show a reduction"?
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We consider it a "red flag" when a product claims mineral content but does
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product why would they
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that "mcg" be used to express micrograms and "mg" be used for
milligrams on product labels.
We learned this the hard way after printing 60,000 product labels that used
"µg" to mean micrograms.
Internationally recognized standards of scientific notation are not
accept
hat does this mean and does it sound
>like they are simply selling 7 PPM and representing it to be 20 PPM?
A recent sample of Utopia Silver labeled 20 ppm (lot # 0306033) measured
9.78 ppm using an ICP/AES (atomic emission spectrometer).
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eat.
Here is a link to the online version:
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"slipping plane":
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#zeta.potential
The bottom line is that the silver particles do not have a "positive charge"
as is so widely reported. They do have a negative charge owing to the zeta
potential which causes the particles
t the particles have a positive charge.
Both of these statements are false.
Since the writers have demonstrated their lack of knowledge by making these
false statements, why should anything they say be believed.
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he size of particles in
solution. The U.S. National Bureau of Standards (now N.I.S.T) has determined
that it would required at least 10,000 TEM images be analyzed in order to
make a statistically valid measurement of particle size based on TEM images.
For this reason, the TEM is not considered viable f
the site and
the mail was bounced as being a bad address. They can't even get their own
email address right.
frank key
> Margaret; thanks so much for your post with the link about the free e-book
on Colloidal Silver. Most informative if true. I hope the gurus on this
list take the
a 100 hour week.
1 ppm would still be 100 times the detection limit, so it would detectable.
In reviewing the ingestion experiment of a 100% particle silver colloid, I
am reminded that we used 250 mL of 2.9 ppm. Silver in the blood was detected
using atomic absorption which has a lower detection
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