Re: Dry system return bend - aux drain needed?

What a horrible waste of time. Hopefully this wasnt your local government inspector asking this. If so, you should call the mayor and ask to be reimbursed. Of course you dont need a drain on every sprinkler. On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Dewayne Martinez < dmarti...@total-mechanical.com> wrote:

Re: Fire dept. connection

Well, the internal swing check will not function peroperly in a vertical position On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Lévis Blanchet wrote: > Concerning FDC installation like a 2-1/2’’ siamese connection Y-pattern, > > is there any official reference pertaining to

Re: Polybutylene

I did some work on an assisted living facility years ago with this piping. what do you mean by adapter? On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > A client of mine has a system that was installed with polybutylene pipe. > Now some sprinklers need to be relocated. Is there

Re: Another NFPA 25 Question - Controllers

Years ago, I completed the Fire Pump Technician Certification Training through Peerless Pump Company at their headquarters, under a great guy named Pete Noll. The FireTrol controller rep also trained the students and certified them. The course was designed for a technician to be competent to

Re: NFPA 25 - exercising hose valves

The owner is responsible for maintaining the system, not the contractor. In your contract, specify that you do not perform the valve exercise and the owner is responsible. You can't force a property owner to pay you to exercise the valves. On Wednesday, January 11, 2017, Roland Huggins

Re: I Roles and Responsibilities

Unfortunately the contractors in this industry have really failed to collaborate on a standard response to this question. There was a knowledgeable insurance rep who used to comment on these questions but he hasn't for some time. The legal recommendation seems to be to "see no evil hear no evil."

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. Forest Wilson On Aug 9, 2016 11:17 AM, "David Autry" <da...@mfp-inc.com> wrote: > If you’re in West Des Moines, IA……. You will protect it, no matter what. > > > > David Autry > > > > Meininger Fire Protection > > 2521 West L Street, Suite 5 > >

Re: RPZ Configuration

Provision for forward flow test On Aug 4, 2016 3:49 PM, "Brian Harris" wrote: > Seem to be having a brain cramp today. Have an RPZ inside the Riser room > with the FDC connection downstream with a flow switch and ITC. For some > reason it just looks weird. For a

Re: Gloves for cutting machine

Long loose hair is also inadvisable. In fact the older manufacturer manuals used to specify that only naked bald persons should operate the machine. On Jul 22, 2016 9:28 AM, "M.A Nelson" wrote: > I would also recommend against necklaces/ chains and long loose

Re: Sprinkler above freezer unit

I agree. Maybe move the sprinkler head On Jul 22, 2016 9:25 AM, "Todd Williams" wrote: > I got a call from someone who has had a problem with a sprinkler in one > specific area accidentally discharging. This has occurred multiple times. > It is in a 0 - 14 degree freezer

Re: Elevator piping

In addition to this forum, I would also consult the Elevator Code. Maybe call your state elevator code inspector. How will you do the stunt trip if you arrange the piping this way? On Jul 22, 2016 7:47 AM, "Dewayne Martinez" wrote: > Can I run pipe into the

Re: Auxiliary dry valve drains

The drain test is needed if it is downstream of a valve. Every valve needs exercised, and a flow test needs conducted after the closed valve is restored to the open position. On Jul 18, 2016 1:05 PM, "rongreenman ." wrote: > John has stated and defended. Mike has stated.

RE: Installing ceiling tile

The answer depends on your relationship with the GC. For example, there is a private owner I have done work for years. We cut the ceiling tile on his remodels and expansions. I don't think he has even shopped for another bid in his work. Others will nickel and dime subs to death. It depends on

RE: Test header on riser

Why do you need to demonstrate the flow rate? The purpose of the forward flow test is to fully operate the back flow valve. A flow at 500 GPM will not open the valve fully? On Jul 14, 2016 9:52 AM, "David Williams" wrote: > As an engineer who just issued a design

RE: Base of riser on placards

I also compare to the plaque. In at least 2 cases, I found closed street valves as a result. Acceptance testing is shoddy in many regions. On Jul 11, 2016 11:14 AM, "Steve Leyton" wrote: > I’m not sure what’s to disagree with. If you see a static pressure on > the

Re: Sodium Silicate

I encountered a similar situation a few years ago. I would send a letter to the ahj and owner explaining what you found and notify them the system may be impaired. Suggest lab testing to confirm if needed and then ask the ahj for guidance. On Jun 16, 2016 8:21 PM, "Jeff Bridges"

Re: Unconnected sprinklers

Besides a false impression upon building occupants (many of whom don't notice sprinklers anyway), one must consider false impressions upon first responders or insurance agents. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Frans Stoop wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Thank you very much. > I

Re: Date on gauges

Regarding the 5 year gauge replacement, I have seen too much focus on this component by both contractors and AHJ's. The gauge replacement is only one item as part of a 5 year maintenance interval. Internal inspection of piping is much more important than replacing the cheap, Chinese made plastic

RE: Antifreeze system

What was the concentration of the propylene glycol you filled with and its freeze point? Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have

Re: AHJ Powers

I've been in situations where i ask the general contractor to sign a waiver or argue with the AHJ...and what often ends up happening is the general uses another sprinkler sub on the next job. Sure, legal liability is protected. But what about the next job? Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler

Re: What is 'base of riser'?

Yea but a good practice is to compare the main drain tests to the first test, not the plaque  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have

Re: Holding Cells

I think this happens all the time in jails. A local county told me that it regularly happens and he intentionally just lets the water flow a little longer to drench the prisoners that intentionally set them off. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil...@aol.com

Re: GE fire COMMENT

Unless it is equipped with the old style sprinklers which spray 40% above the sprinkler. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: MPhelps mphe...@aerofire.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum

Re: Antifreeze systems

It also depends on what edition of NFPA 13 has been adopted by your jurisdiction. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: rongreenman . rongreen...@gmail.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum

Re: Owners Certificate

Just an FYI...when you buy the NFPA forms in electronic format you get all of these. Technically, a lot of these cities post these forms online but sometimes it violates copyright laws. I have the Owners Cert available on Word from NFPA. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil

Antifreeze Question

What do you mean 'installed with sections of pipe?' Expansion tanks or pressure relief valves are required on antifreeze systems. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 forest_wil...@aol.com ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

Re: help

Most Fire Codes allow the Chief to determine the location and criteria of the FDC. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Fairchild, Jack jfairch...@ballinger-ae.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Re: Testing Questions

Tom, You have been on here for years. What's up? Forest WilsonFire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Douglas Hicks lt;fire...@eoni.comgt; To: sprinklerforum lt;sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.orggt; Sent: Mon, Apr 27, 2015 11:25 pm Subject: Re:

Re: Health club on top of parking structure

should be able to provide you guidance on this matter. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Steve Leyton st...@protectiondesign.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Sent: Tue, Apr 14, 2015 12:27 PM

Re: for the avid history buff

It's interesting. But How is he copyrighting old NFPA literature in his name? Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: David Autry da...@mfp-inc.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Sent: Wed, Mar 11, 2015

Re: exterior cooler/freezer

If the Project Engineer says they aren't needed then don't install them. NFPA 13 would require it; However, you can submit a change order down the road and add them later if the AHJ requires it. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-736-0425 forest_wil...@aol.com

Re: Mech Tee Installation

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Re: prefabricated fire riser stub-up

I agree with all of the other endorsements. How much does one potential leak cost? With these there are little room for field error Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-516-8248 forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com

Re: Antifreeze, not enough

Doug, You should only use factory pre mixed solutions. It has been this way for years. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor PH: 937-516-8248 forest_wil...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Douglas Hicks fire...@eoni.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Sent

Re: Antifreeze in systems

Jody, For purposes of evaluating existing buildings and their sprinkler systems for prospective buyers, NFPA 25 will not help you. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product

Re: expansion tanks

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Re: Separation of systems with plate steel

it. Thanks, Jamie Seidl ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 193 California St Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937-736-0425

Re: NFPA 13

Maybe it's like ordering checks...you never start with number one, usually a higher number. On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, David Blackwell david.blackw...@llr.sc.gov wrote: While it doesn't address the NFPA numbering issue [1 vs. lucky 13...] the following article entitled History Of The

Re: Outdoor Dining

required) is the fabric sufficient to catch heat for sprinkler activation? ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest Wilson

Re: Expansion Joint vs. Seismic Expansion Joint

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Re: Existing swing check valve replacement

This is at the discretion of the water purveyor. In most states, the EPA has jurisdiction over the water supply and containment backflow devices fall under the water purveyor's jurisdiction, not the building departments (or building code). On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Dewayne Martinez

9/11 Stair Climbs

Last weekend, I participated in a local 9/11 Stair Climb in Yellow Springs, OH. I highly encourage anyone able and willing to participate in these events across the country. The funds raised in these events are used to aid families of disabled and killed firefighters. You can find events in

Insurance Companies

This is really a topic for SprinklerChat but it's gone now so I'm posting it here.I need names of insurance companies for fire sprinkler contractors. Please send me the name of your insurer, it is much needed and appreciated. My current renewal fell through and I'm in a little bind. Thank you.

Re: Another anti-freeze question or teo

I think that UL would be the listing lab. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Todd - Work t...@fpdc.com wrote: Is there any progress on developing a listed anti-freeze solution? Who would be the listing agency? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com

Re: Seismic bracing

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Re: NFPA 25 2011 System Size

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Re: NFPA 25 2011 System Size REPLY

I think the original poster was asking about limited area systems of 20 or fewer heads. IN OHio, most jurisdictions do not require annual testing of these systems. This is from the city of Philadelphia website; they also do not require annual testing: ISSUE: Section F-901.6 of the Philadelphia

Re: copper pipe vs CPVC

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Re: Excessive system pressure and opening of sprinklers

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Re: Segue to AHJ's from CPVC Underground

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Re: Segue to AHJ's from CPVC Underground

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Re: Segue to AHJ's from CPVC Underground

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Exhauster

These exhauster rebuild kits are now available. I just bought 2 from local Tyco distributor -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855 Bellbrook Ave Ste C Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937-736-0425 ///WHO IS JOHN GALT?/// **This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended

Re: Thermal Barrier for Bathrooms

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Changing building from unheated to heated

with annual trip testing of the DPV, draining of the low point drains, etc. -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855 Bellbrook Ave Ste C Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937-736-0425 ///WHO IS JOHN GALT?/// **This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use

Re: sprinkler in confined space

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Re: NFPA-13R or NFPA-13?

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Re: de-zincification

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Re: de-zincification

the use of dezincification resistant (DZR) alloys. Sent while mobile. John Corcoran, Globe Fire Sprinkler Corporation +989-439-5694 Original Message From: Forest Wilson Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:28 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Reply To: sprinklerforum

Re: WHEN TO DE USE BACK FLOW PREVENT???

/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855 Bellbrook Ave Ste C Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937-736-0425 ///WHO IS JOHN GALT?/// **This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom

Re: Recessed heads and escutcheons

Yes.  The escutcheons are part of the UL listed assembly.  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let

Re: Recessed heads and escutcheons

@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest

Re: Recessed heads and escutcheons

my iPad On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Forest Wilson cherokeefire...@aol.com wrote: If I were you, I would email Reliable Technical Services and ask them: Can the Model F1 be installed recessed without the escutcheon and still maintain the UL listing? Then take their response and forward

Re:

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Re:

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Re: Laminated placards and info signs

, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Forest Wilson cherokeefire...@aol.comwrote: Is your hand really sore and cramping after filling out 2 Hydraulic Plaque signs? On 3/18/2014 12:55 PM, Ben Young wrote: I know I can't be the only person that gets tired of filling out hydraulic placards. My hand starts

Re: Laminated placards and info signs

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Re: Modifying sprinklers

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RE: Air Testing CPVC Piping

I would contact the manufacturer rep and ask for his recommendations in writing and then send that to the AHJ Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal

Re: seismic bracing calcs

Locate per 13 and send a calc sheet only if required in plan review.  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake

RE: Butterfly valve, monitered or not?

Just Change it from NO to NC when you connect the contacts  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let

Re: Testing for Air Leaks in Dry Fire Sprinkler System

Jim McHugh ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855 Bellbrook Ave Ste C Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937

Re: OBSOLETE SPRINKLER

NFPA 25, as I recall, used to require same manufacturer but that was changed a few years ago to Same characteristics/ specs. I only mentioned same manufacturer in the purpose of this thread, changing K Factor on obsolete recalled sprinklers. You would have to look in 25 for clarification. I do

Re: OBSOLETE SPRINKLER

You are correct.  You do not need to do calcs unless you use a head manufactured by other than Tyco.  Tycos agreement with the federal government is to replace with a like for Like model Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also

RE: Dry System I.T.C.

Ive seen it done.  Just ensure you use the sprinkler orifice size on the ITC.   Most remote area.. Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you

Re: Swimming Pools RFI

sprinklered.  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your

Re: Street elbows

I dont underatand how a fitting would be considered a pipe nipple.  The prohibition against using 1/2 pipe in earthquake zones should not apply to the use of street l fittings.  If it did, then the same argument could could made against using any 1/2 fitting.   Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler

Hydrostatic Testing Relocated Drops

Question: Are relocated drops considered modified sprinklers under NFPA 13 definitions? Project has less than 20 sprinklers (existing branch lines and mains, new sprinklers are drops installed into new mechanical tees) More than 20 existing drops are being relocated. Is a hydrostatic test of 200

Re: NICET Training

Yes. The NFSA, AFSA and NFPA all offer classes On Jan 14, 2014 12:54 PM, James D. Waite jdwa...@flsamerica.com wrote: Has anyone used the NTC or FireTech training material for Sprinkler Inspection Testing? Is it worth it? Is one better than the other? Are there any other good ones available.

Re: crematorium

Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855

re: Attention SprinklerForum Subscribers Using AOL and Yahoo Mail

This email was very helpful. I've had problems for years. Ironically I preferred AOL for emailing prints, etc but always had problems with the Forum emails. I opened up a Gmail account as you suggested. Thabk you so much for this info. On Jan 6, 2014 1:04 PM, Maurice Marvi maur...@marvi.org

No Test Cert, No Main Drain tests to compare

is the recommended course of action for the owner? -- Forest Wilson Project Manager 1855 Bellbrook Ave Ste C Xenia OH 45385 Ph: 937-736-0425 ///WHO IS JOHN GALT?/// **This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom

RE: Abrasive Blasting Operation

For clarification,  only cellophane bags are permitted.  The common sandwich bags are not cellophane and not acceptable for covering a sprinkler with.  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected

RE: EQ Bracing

Keep simple? 4 way every change of direction.  Longitudinal every 80.   Latitudes every 40.   Flexible couplings top and bottom of riser.  These guidelines will satisfy most building departments.   Some will want calculations etc.   Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice

Main Drain Inspection Test

thoughts?  Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Contractor 937-736-0425 Notice: This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your

RE: resurrecting an old system

I would air test first but I think you will need the water test to find leaks   Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Scott A Futrell sco...@ffcdi.com Date: 11/20/2013 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: resurrecting an

RE: Polystyrene Peanuts

So if they don't hang from the ceilings  and instead construct a structure to hang the bags from the question still exists.  You can visit any ups store or fedex office kinkos and find bags hung from the ceiling.  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Thomas

Re: NFPA25 scope

I've encountered this from the recalled sprinkler heads issue and I do believe that recalled components should be identified.  If the only thing we are willing to conduct and guarantee is a main drain test then the owners may as well self perform that because a trained monkey can do that. 

RE: Head Guards

The best practice would be to submit the product sheets to the AHJ and ask for a variance to install the head guards.  If he attaches them to the plywood then that's part of the ceiling and not part of the head though. And that affects the 18 clearance rule.  Sent from my Galaxy S®III

RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

Im not qualified to answer but my opinion is that much of these standards were put In place for industry before internet, etc.   So that every job does not need to be reviewed by an engineer.   I was told the 250 lb requirement was to support the weight of the fitter hanging the pipe. I don't

RE: Missing pages in NFPA 30

Ask if you can use FM standards? Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Damien Shannon dshan...@pscl.ie Date: 10/23/2013 2:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Missing pages in NFPA 30 Hi Galen. Thank you for the

Re: jockey pump runs intermittently

I completely agree with Ron concerning the soldering of copper sensing lines.  This scope of work should be performed by a fire sprinkler contractor and not a plumber.  You can gain these skills through a community college course  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message

RE: County continues investigation into fire sprinklers, voluntary recall

Lol.  Replaced with a more reliable rubber seal It amazes me how people can miss these sprinklers for more than a decade Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Thomas Watt firesprinklerssaveli...@gmail.com Date: 10/14/2013 8:27 AM (GMT-05:00) To:

Flex Heads in Remodels

Quick question on industry practices concerning remodels.  When we remove hard pipe drops and replace with flex heads in a remodel do we need to perform hydraulic calcs? Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Terri S. Leyton te...@tlcfire.com Date: 10/09/2013 6:35

RE: Sprinkler broken in 05 star hotel guest rooms

I would first rule out the use of clothes hangers  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Phong - Indochine Engineering ph...@indoeng.com Date: 10/05/2013 9:33 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Sprinkler broken in 05 star

RE: Sprinkler protection criteria for bulk storage piles

This topic was addressed about a month ago on the Forum.  The consensus was that it was outside the scope of NFPA 13 and that the Engineer of Record should be consulted    Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: David Bitton dbit...@questlosscontrol.com Date:

RE: Life Safety or Property Protection

Read 13- 1.2.1. References life and property protection (2010 edition) Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com Date: 09/26/2013 8:53 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org Subject: Life Safety or Property

Re: old 14.5k ecoh brass upright

We are in business to make money and on an issue like this we need to remember the words of our dear late friend George Church: keep it simple  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: rongreenman . rongreen...@gmail.com Date: 09/24/2013 9:09 PM (GMT-05:00) To:

Star Exhauster BB parts

I ordered a rebuild kit for a Star Exhauster BB and am having problems getting a rubber rebuild kit for this valve.  Does anyone have a rebuild kit? If this valve can't be rebuilt, what options are available? The system was designed to function with the valve. It already has an accelerator on

RE: Full Forward Flow Test Control Valves

I would place it in the same categoryas auxiliary drain valves and I don't think it needs to be monitored Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Greg McGahan g...@livingwaterfp.com Date: 09/25/2013 1:33 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org

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