RE: FDC & Pump Suction

Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 2:11 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Mike Morey ; Brian Harris Subject: RE: FDC & Pump Suction Is cap it and put one on the building an option? Generally that's what we'd do in that scenario as there isn't much else you can safely do bec

RE: FDC & Pump Suction

mmo...@shambaugh.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Brian Harris via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:09 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Brian Harris Subject: FDC & Pump Suction BE ADVISED - This email originated outsi

FDC & Pump Suction

8.17.2.4.8 (2016) States the FDC cannot be located on the suction side of a pump. If a pump is being added to an existing system and the current FDC is in the yard what is the best way to handle this? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. Design Manager bvssystemsinc.com

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foreseeable, the standard (14) is mute in that regard. SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 11:42 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: FDC & Pump No, I have

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> > > > > > From:Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > Dewayne Martinez > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 11:42 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: FDC & Pu

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: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 11:42 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: FDC & Pump No, I have had to put an extra control valve for the standpipe feed at point of connec

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-2017] *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Leyton *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2018 9:39 AM *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org *Subject:* RE: FDC & Pump What valve are you referring to as “standpipe feed” con

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: FDC & Pump Tom, Are you saying that if I put a control valve for the standpipe feed at the riser manifold and the FDC is connected to the riser manifold that I must also connect the FDC downstream of the standpipe feed control valve? Is that in 14? I have had a couple of AHJ’s make me

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@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: FDC & Pump If I have an existing FDC at the hot box and add a pump later, then the FDC must be moved to the pumphouse? On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Dewayne Martinez <dmarti...@total-mechanical.com<mailto:dmarti...@total-mechanical.com>> wrote: Tom

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m [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler. > org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Duross > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:36 PM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Subject:* RE: FDC & Pump > > > > What Larry said.. > > And there can’t be any valves between

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*To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org *Subject:* RE: FDC & Pump What Larry said.. And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser mani

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be the preferable arrangement. Am I misinterpreting this? -Kyle M From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tom Duross Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:36 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: FDC & Pump What Larry

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and also allowed, the FDC check…. duh What Larry said.. And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser manifold, for

RE: FDC & Pump

What Larry said.. And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser manifold, for example. TD The requirement is from NFPA 13,

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ddress: PO Box 42470, Bakersfield, CA 93384 > > > > > > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:30 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

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Of Jamie Seidl Sent: January-31-18 4:30 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC & Pump I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps. Looking through 2013 NFPA 20, I don't see anything precluding the instillation on the supply side. Is the FDC all

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, SC 29607 craig.pr...@ch2m.com http://www.jacobs.com<http://www.jacobs.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:30 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC & Pump [EX

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, January 31, 2018 3:30 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC & Pump I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps. Looking through 2013 NFPA 20, I don't see anything precluding the instillation on the supply side. Is the FDC allowed to be insta

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: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:30 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC & Pump I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps. Looking through 2013

FDC & Pump

I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps. Looking through 2013 NFPA 20, I don't see anything precluding the instillation on the supply side. Is the FDC allowed to be installed on the supply? I have a contractor that has installed the FDC on the supply run-in, instead of

Re: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

Brad, The gate-check-gate thing is similar to an RPDA with OS's on each side. *Ken Wagoner, SET *Parsley Consulting*** *350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 *Escondido, California 92025 *Phone 760-745-6181* Visit our website

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nklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler. > org <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On Behalf Of *Allan > Seidel > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:58 PM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Subject:* FDC pump in circle with hy

Re: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

30906 > Office- (706)790-3473 > Cell- (706) 220-8822 > Fax: (706) 738-2119 > > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Allan Seidel > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:58 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.fir

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Lol. I was thinking about the graphic Ken P posted yesterday, lower left with the gate, check, gate, and imagining the check being held open like it wasn't there, or only 85% there or whatever, and a Fire Dept. person wanting two checks in case one of them got held open by a rock. Your hydraulic

Re: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

Answers to your questions. > On Feb 7, 2017, at 2:01 PM, michael G wrote: > > Is it not feasible to put the FDC on the building? Or on a separate feed back > to the building in lieu of creating an inefficient scenario as described? > Yes > On Feb 7, 2017, at 2:50 PM,

Re: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

Is there not a check valve or alarm check on the riser, upstream of the FDC connection to the riser? On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Allan Seidel wrote: > I'm looking at an FDC setup on the underground main to a building > (sprinklers and standpipe) where there is not a

Re: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

Is there a key operated gate upstream of the FDC they plan on closing once they get set up, to 'check' the circuit? I have heard some concearn by FP people about rocks holding check valves open and creating the situation you describe. Brad On Feb 7, 2017 1:57 PM, "Allan Seidel"

RE: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

Of Allan Seidel Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:58 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground I'm looking at an FDC setup on the underground main to a building (sprinklers and standpipe) where there is not a check on the underground between

RE: FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

, GA 30906 Office- (706)790-3473 Cell- (706) 220-8822 Fax: (706) 738-2119 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Allan Seidel Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:58 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: FDC pump in circle

FDC pump in circle with hydrant on underground

I'm looking at an FDC setup on the underground main to a building (sprinklers and standpipe) where there is not a check on the underground between the FDC and the nearest upstream fire hydrant. This was installed this way as directed by the Fire Marshall. To make this picture clear, water pumped