Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2009 12:25 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If > > BTW, if there's any guidance for the test team in Bxl on how to tag > the bugs found against latest SoaS, we'll be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread S Page
Summary: There seems to already be Sugar 0.84 content translated into various languages on flossmanuals.net that someone could "remix" as HTML and link to from the Browse activity's home page. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > We talked a bit about the Help Activity in Par

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who wants to adopt the Clock activity?

2009-05-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Pierre, On 26 May 2009, at 02:24, Pierre Métras wrote: > Hi Gary, > > I've read in a recent post in the Sugar IAEP list where you > explained how to > make an activity adopted by the Activity Team. Are you part of this > team or > how can I contact them without having to create a new accou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Caroline, Caroline Meeks writes: > We talked a bit about the Help Activity in Paris.  I've taken our discussion > and written it up here:  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help > > Please take a look and edit this spec and start to think about how it should > be > implemented. Thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-25 Thread Bastien
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:31, Bastien wrote: >> +1 on the overall. >> >> Building Sugar from source should be as easy as: >> >> , >> | ~$ git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-core/mainline.git >> | ~$ ./configure >> | ~$ make >> | ~$ sudo make install >> ` > > Well, that

Re: [Sugar-devel] introduction

2009-05-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Martin, On 25 May 2009, at 20:24, Marten Vijn wrote: > Following http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved > > 1. User:Marten refers to me > 2. my public_key is in User:Marten > 3. I am on Activity Team/Contacts (I was not sure to me add meself) Welcome aboard! > 4. For the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them

2009-05-25 Thread David Van Assche
Well the main thing here is about demoing... I've taken it upon myself to package about 50 activities... including fructose and glucose... now... we have things like flash which isnt an xo bundle, though many people believe it could/should be, and that would/should be considered a honey app, but it

[Sugar-devel] introduction

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
Following http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved 1. User:Marten refers to me 2. my public_key is in User:Marten 3. I am on Activity Team/Contacts (I was not sure to me add meself) 4. For the people that don't know me yet Hi I am Marten, I live in Leiden, The Netherland. I hav

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them

2009-05-25 Thread Gary C Martin
On 25 May 2009, at 12:33, David Van Assche wrote: > Super... that methodology should be written up some place as its a > great guide to follow... I'd much rather try and find some agreement to cut un-necessary steps, rather than to wikify/formalise it and push every unfortunate Activity aut

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2009 11:51 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > Tomeu was quicker in his response than me... > > As Simon said, the current plan for *both* the XO-1 and the XO-1.5 in > regard to Sugar support is to build upon the work that OLPC and the > Fedora communities are doing towards getting a stock Fedora >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
[...] >>> That's why people are barking at the wrong tree when they say that >>> Sugar developers should port Sugar to whatever system. The skills >>> involved are very different from upstream work and if coders are not >>> coding we won't have anything new to ship. >>> >> If barking ever applies m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 16:25, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:42 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> [adding sugar-devel again to CC] >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:36, Marten Vijn wrote: >> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:34, N

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 25.05.2009, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Bernie Innocenti: > [cc += cwickert] > > On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti > >> wrote: > >>> The only thing I didn't like very much is mem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Activities] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread wa1gsf
I'd just like to be able to find ONE place to go to that would list the correct version of each activity FOR EACH RELEASE OF THE PLATFORM. Knowing that version 554 of stump-the-wumpus is the latest does me no good if I need a version no newer than 357 in order to run it under 8.2.1 on my XO. Si

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2009 11:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> Dear Sugar Community, >> >> After the dust of the 0.84 release has been settled we like to clean up >> the database. With each new Sucrose release comes some bug tracker >> housekeeping. This e-

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:42 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > [adding sugar-devel again to CC] > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:36, Marten Vijn wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:34, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> > >> Just copying files is unlikely

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi, We talked a bit about the Help Activity in Paris. I've taken our discussion and written it up here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help Please take a look and edit this spec and start to think about how it should be implemented. It may not be worth translating it before it is rewr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 12:18, Martin Langhoff wrote: > matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5 > MiB(shared) with Browse.xo and Terminal.xo open on my development XO > after 3 days uptime. > > 'top' says 9644 RSS, 5436 Res, but the more I use the smap data > (parsed by ps_mem.py) the les

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Announcing Snapshot 2009/05/24

2009-05-25 Thread NoiseEHC
I have tried the appliance image on VirtualBox. On the registration form it crashed with some python? error (will look the exact error if it is not a well known bug). It could be caused that I clicked more than once to the Next button. After that I only have an "Automatic login" user to choose f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If BTW, if there's any guidance for the test team in Bxl on how to tag the bugs found against latest SoaS, we'll be happy to follow... This search shows most (all?) the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += cwickert] On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>> The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB >>> RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. >> >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Openbox, the window manager used by LXDE and other desktops, is only > slightly cheaper: 7.5MB RSS. > > IMHO, not worth the pain of being out of the mainstream. matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5 MiB(shared) wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB >> RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. > > Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives that "fit" be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Walter Bender
Tomeu was quicker in his response than me... As Simon said, the current plan for *both* the XO-1 and the XO-1.5 in regard to Sugar support is to build upon the work that OLPC and the Fedora communities are doing towards getting a stock Fedora distribution running on the hardware. Sugar would be pa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Dear Sugar Community, > > After the dust of the 0.84 release has been settled we like to clean up > the database. With each new Sucrose release comes some bug tracker > housekeeping. This e-mail is designed to let you know about the things >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:34, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> >> I hope this anwers your question, >>    Simon >> >> > > Unfortunately it does not. What I wanted to know whether I will be able > to use the latest Sugar on my XO-1 ever. It boots the kernel with 802 so > it is a working Linux distribution. If

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread NoiseEHC
> > I hope this anwers your question, >Simon > > Unfortunately it does not. What I wanted to know whether I will be able to use the latest Sugar on my XO-1 ever. It boots the kernel with 802 so it is a working Linux distribution. If somehow I copy the latest Sugar over the old Sugar (0.82

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB > RSS.  But I suppose we can't do much about it. Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives that "fit" better? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@

Re: [Sugar-devel] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 09:48, Brian Jordan wrote: > Is anyone against retiring the activit...@lists.laptop.org list in > favor of migration to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org? +1. I think platform developers should be aware of the challenges of activity writers, and vice-versa. -- // Bernie Innocenti -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:31, Bastien wrote: > +1 on the overall. > > Building Sugar from source should be as easy as: > > , > | ~$ git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-core/mainline.git > | ~$ ./configure > | ~$ make > | ~$ sudo make install > ` Well, that works for the sugar shell provided yo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Dictionary everywhere ?

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 01:42, S Page wrote: > There are a dozen dictionary extensions for Firefox, do any of those > work in Browse? > http://www.dailyblogtips.com/dictionary-extensions-for-firefox/ and > comments mention a few. Extensions that don't use anything firefox-specific can be used in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 21:30, Lucian Branescu wrote: > Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating > matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus We have a trade-off to take into account here between memory usage of maximus and the cost of implementation and maintenanc

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 20:04, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>> I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu.

[Sugar-devel] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread Brian Jordan
Is anyone against retiring the activit...@lists.laptop.org list in favor of migration to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org? Brian ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-25 Thread Brian Jordan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Brian, > > On 24 May 2009, at 18:36, Brian Jordan wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Gary -- when you get a chance, can you add me as a committer on >> git.sl.o?  I'd like to help clean things up! > > You're added! :-) > > Can I request we try and

Re: [Sugar-devel] wrong Activity versions for 8.2(.1) -- Etoys, Memorize, Terminal, Read, others

2009-05-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.05.2009, at 03:56, S Page wrote: > Etoys at 94, but its web page's Activity_version says 98 > ==> Someone should update http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Etoys_(8.2) > !? > ==> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4030 > is up to 100, but doesn't list a versi