On Saturday 11 September 2010 14:31:20 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:58:00 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> > I am thinking more along the lines of membership interests. I want
> > to be in the yoga darknet group but also in the tennis darknet
> > group. But if I join both, I hav
On Wednesday 15 September 2010 14:40:50 Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
>
> >> But we have been wrong before in regards to technology. So can we say
> >> that the anonymity problem in P2P networks is solved?
>
> > No, no we can't. As we've discussed, OpenNet is a tradeoff of anonymity
> > for useabilit
>> But we have been wrong before in regards to technology. So can we say
>> that the anonymity problem in P2P networks is solved?
> No, no we can't. As we've discussed, OpenNet is a tradeoff of anonymity
> for useability (no need to laboriously find/add fr
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:58:38 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> > To move in DarkNet you actually have to go and talk to a person...
> > something like "Hi, do you mind introducing me to some of your
> > friends?" which may work only sometimes.
>
> It seems that we are pushing technology to the po
> To move in DarkNet you actually have to go and talk to a person... something
> like "Hi, do you mind introducing me to some of your friends?" which may work
> only sometimes.
It seems that we are pushing technology to the point that a breakdown to remain
anonymous could be
our human conditio
-- you actually (hopefully) know and trust each of your peers,
unlike opennet strangers.
May be I have watched too many 007 movies, but what if one of your
trusted peers is actually a double agent?
That's a good question. Maybe someone more knowlegeable can help flesh
out the details, but I rec
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:00:14 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> > they can also in theory replace all of your peers,
> > and thus know what keys you are downloading/uploading.
> Isn't the content also encrypted? What good are the keys for to lead
> back to the originating node?
The main idea is t
> they can also in theory replace all of your peers,
> and thus know what keys you are downloading/uploading.
Isn't the content also encrypted? What good are the keys for to lead back to
the originating node?
>> Given that this would take quite a bit of
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:51:15 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> Does this mean that in Darknet mode the peers are not swapped?
Correct. They're fixed. They are your trusted friends.
> OK, I can see how the constant swapping may give a malicious member
> the opportunity to build a topology of th
> Yes, effectively. (Opennet behaves a little differently -- your
> neighbouring peers are constantly being swapped and optimized to
> approach a small-world topology.)
Does this mean that in Darknet mode the peers are not swapped?
> The main advantage, I believe, is security -- opennet nodes
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:58:00 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> I am thinking more along the lines of membership interests. I want
> to be in the yoga darknet group but also in the tennis darknet
> group. But if I join both, I have now bridged these two groups into
> a new yoga-tennis group. If
No, it would not become the opennet as your node is still connected to mostly
nodes who share your interest and who also connect mostly to nodes that share
your interest. Thus you are still having the routing advantages of small world
routing.
If you carry that operation to everyone doing what
> Freenet will route through that node (any request that is not
> found in the "local darknet", and vice versa, "outside" opennet searches
> will hopefully penetrate into that dark corner.)
If by ignorance or unintentionally a member joins another darknet
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:04:11 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> Am I [...] correct in understanding that once a member in a darknet
> joins opennet then the rest of the members become opennet members?
Correct. Freenet will route through that node (any request that is not
found in the "local darkne
>> When I say "multiple darknets" I mean completely separate but under
>> an off-band control.
> Not possible. Unless you can force your people not to enable opennet,
> or not to add other darknet peers who have access to the opennet (or
> access to your
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:35:50 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> When I say "multiple darknets" I mean completely separate but under
> an off-band control.
Not possible. Unless you can force your people not to enable opennet,
or not to add other darknet peers who have access to the opennet (or
acce
> When you say "multiple darknets" -- do you mean disconnected from
> the rest of "opennet" / separate networks, with only content provided
> by those nodes?
When I say "multiple darknets" I mean completely separate but under an off-band
control.
For example, I create a darknet for my tennis fr
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:52:27 -0400, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
> Does the concept of seednodes apply to Darknets?
No. Seednodes are "open"/public/known nodes that are used to initially
connect to the "opennet". Darknet refers to
"dark"/private/probably-unknown friends of yours that you explicitly
t
> Freenet 0.7.5 build 1276 is now available.
> Please upgrade, especially if you run a seednode.
Terrific, I will upgrade my multiple nodes to this new build.
I have a question and I hope I am understanding the concept of seednodes.
Does the concept of seednodes apply to Darknets?
Specifically
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