David E. Ross schrieb:
It appears that no logging occurs when a media object (e.g., an icon) is
fetched from the local cache.
Fetching an icon is treated the same as fetching a CSS style, JS script,
image or video inside a web page.
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Phillip Jones schrieb:
If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort.
We are all volunteers and only can do so much. All the code is open for
you to build on it and write patches though!
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JohnW-Mpls schrieb:
RE par 2 - I was in the Bookmark Manager and had extended the window
to the bottom of my screen and had collapsed the grippy separator to
the bottom.
Uncollapse that when you want to see properties. The info is all there,
but if you hide it, you won't see it.
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Ant schrieb:
Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(
Oh, there are tons of plans, but too little work force.
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on improving the 2.1 series, and there
will be more betas, but problems with the current one seem to be pretty
minimal.
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that goal, it doesn't do much to actually move things forward.
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more sense for whom are not topics that will help people to use
SeaMonkey more easily or fix their problems in working with this
volunteer-community-generated software.
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Rufus schrieb:
I see one sessionstore.json, but not sessionrestore.json.
That's the one. Contains info of all pages loaded in the last used session.
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Jens Hatlak schrieb:
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Jens Hatlak schrieb:
Filed bug 613770. I don't see the sense in writing a patch for plain
removal, though, so I skipped that step.
Well, I am seriously cutting down the time I'm working on SeaMonkey and
trying to cut down on work time in general, so
Rufus schrieb:
Chris Ilias wrote:
3. Delete the file sessionrestore.js.
There is no such file in either of the SM Profiles
That's because it's a .json and not a .js file.
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NoOp schrieb:
File a *bug* and a *patch* to change a web page that *you* maintain?
Yes. The same process as for code I maintain, the same process as used
everywhere in Mozilla. We even file bugs for build machines that need
changes applied.
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Ah, that's on this page:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved
KaiRo, can you remove that paragraph please?
Please file a bug, even better a patch.
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J. Weaver Jr. schrieb:
Thanks for the info. I'm saving that, because I use the bookmarks file
as my SM Home Page, and would like to continue doing so. -JW
You can use the bookmarks sidebar instead without exporting the
bookmarks.html at all.
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and process
all pages you go to before handing images of them over to you, right?
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On Android or Maemo/MeeGo devices, we recommend using Firefox mobile,
though, which will be able to sync its data with SeaMonkey 2.1.
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in functionality.
Oh yes, we also improved the import function for 1.x profiles, so,
actually, migrating should work even better with 2.0.10 than some random
older version. :)
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and SeaMonkey are causing some load problems, esp. due to
the press and urgency the former probably gets. Having an exploit out in
the wild that can affect hundreds of millions of people is not a really
friendly situation. :(
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so we can ship this update to our users possibly as early as
tomorrow, hopefully still this week, in any case.
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to completely de-support
PPC before the final 2.1 release comes around (this is due to Mozilla
platform decisions that are out of our specific reach).
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Bill Davidsen schrieb:
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Bill Davidsen schrieb:
From my testing of 2.1 I would say that a clear spec of how to write
conforming extensions, possibly with some trivial example, is desirable.
Feel free to write one up, we are an open community. We are trying to
write up
Bill Davidsen schrieb:
Boring! Installed and works. No excitement.
Hah!
Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more
excitement... ;-)
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We never automatically install updates that change the UI, we only
install security/stability updates automatically, which should not
change the behavior of the application in any way (other than crashing
less and fixing potential or known security risks).
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about the major changes, but we are
simply unable to document every single change, and we have to create the
actual application with a very small team first, else there simply isn't
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We will update the project areas list that should act as that, we have
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being a minor update or major new version.
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Beverly Howard schrieb:
Shouldn't the firefox version number be included?
Yes, and it is for that SeaMonkey 2.1 switch mentioned on the blog entry.
And which version of firefox is best for compatibility with seamonkey 1
and 2?
For 1.1.x it's Firefox/2.0 and for 2.0 it's Firefox/3.5
Robert
.
Not completely right, as the method describes here will still report
SeaMonkey, it just will report Firefox _in addition_ to that.
And doing that will be the default from SeaMonkey 2.1 on, see
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/49
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. Will do that in the next minutes.
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possible so we can ship this update to our users possibly as early as
tomorrow, hopefully still this week, in any case.
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with the outdated vulnerability-prone Win98SE, you need to
stick with the outdated vulnerability-prone 1.x versions of SeaMonkey as
well. If you want to use modern software, start with a modern OS.
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, and if I won't collapse beforehand, SeaMonkey 2.1 should
have a built-in viewer/manager for that data in Data Manager.
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JeffM schrieb:
[1] If you see Puppy mentioned, forget that
as it is a poor choice with a lack of security similar to Win9x.
OTOH, it's a distro that comes with SeaMonkey as the default browser and
mail application, so I'd rather not diss them too much. :)
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Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
Info you entered in 2.x should be saved and offered that way,
though.
Where? How? Am I right in assuming I need an add-on?
No, just double-click on a textbox when you come to the same form a
second time, or press
together and bringing the Internet suite into modern times.
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David Wilkinson schrieb:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
JOLAN1 schrieb:
On Sep 8, 6:16 pm, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote:
Hi,
If you are seeing a crash (probably when profile manager should come
up)
after getting an update to 2.0.7, please try to go into the SeaMonkey
application/install folder
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bullet has a quite useful link :)
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Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
When I go to a site that requires user input into a form, I enter the
data, and the next time I go to that site, I'm back where I started
Try double-clicking the text field in question or pressing the down
button if the text field is already
on what to use.
BTW, the add-ons search engine could sure use some work.
Will be reworked in 2.1 - but I think the actual results come from the
add-ons server, not sure what they are improving there in the mean time.
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Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.6/#issues
has some proposals on what to use.
All I can see here is
Form manager has been replaced with a new web form remembering
functionality that works very much differently. (Bug 304309
fragile sucker. ;-)
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Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
Do you mean I should install SM 2 over SM 2, or uninstall that as well
and then reinstall?
Both should work, I think.
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Manuel Reimer schrieb:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Actually, as much as I hate appending Firefox to any UA string of
browsers that are not Firefox, I just filed a bug to make any Gecko that
not has Firefox in its UA string right now to send one in the future.
I don't think this is a good idea
rendering engine nowadays.
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is talking about an automatic update to 2.0.7?
what am I missing?
The candidates, which are provided as updates through the beta channel
so we get testing before the release. See the Testing SeaMonkey 2.0.7
candidates - help wanted! thread from the 26th.
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Philip Chee schrieb:
New is:
general.useragent.compatMode.firefox
Which should be the weapon of choice now when spoofing Firefox. And we
might even add UI for that.
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when you have set
tabs to open in the background by default. Both those bugs should be
fixed in the very-soon-to-come 2.1a3, where it will open only once and
in the foreground.
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on others to do all the work and only sate
they should do something. The only reason this project works at all is
because some people decided to do something instead of just saying that
something should be done.
Will you step up and help the project there?
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NoOp schrieb:
I now recall:
http://ilias.ca/blog/2007/05/want-to-take-over-seamonkeyiliasca/
And the thread in dev.apps.seamonkey where Asrail offered to help:
[...]
What became of that effort?
It's been a long time since I heard from Asrail :(
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Keith Whaley schrieb:
Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate
SM questions?
The list itself works well, the Google Groups gateway sucks.
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double-click. Prefilling and having websites auto-submit would
indeed by a privacy, perhaps even security, problem (probably only the
former, though).
In its current state, its not a problem because it never sends any data
anywhere without you putting it in the text fields yourself.
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on what is now becoming Gecko 2.0 instead.
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import?
2.1 should just reuse 2.0 profiles, and switching back and forth should
be possible in theory. Just make sure you have profile backups before
trying it in practice.
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build your own.
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and/or driver? I am using a
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.
Hartmut
GeForce 9600 GT with nvidia-drivers 195.36.24 (Barry)
Hmm, I have no issues here with the nouveau driver (GF 7600 GT).
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will exists, FWIW.
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worked out.
The next really new version in your sense will be 2.1, which currently
is only available in Alpha-Previews.
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Still, why do they want this to be done at all? It should be none of
their business...
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and my subconsciousness. Next
time I'm unsure of what my mind is up to or I possibly want someone
else's mind read, I'll contact you.
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Ant schrieb:
I don't mind to be notified about updates but I don't want to be
forced. Let me decide to get them or not.
As Jens already pointed out, in 2.1 there will be graphical preferences
UI for that (there is a hidden one in 2.0, look it up in his post).
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Ed Mullen schrieb:
Perhaps because I don't want YOU to change MY system?
Perhaps I just want YOU to be safe on the Internet?
Anyhow, there's a hidden pref somewhere to make us prompt and destroy
your security, but go find it yourself, I won't waste my time on looking
it up.
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Ant schrieb:
I know this has been discussed before a while ago with v2.0.5 updater,
but is it me or did v2.0.5 did not prompt me that there is an 2.0.6 update?
We never did prompt for 2.0.x security updates, so why should we start now?
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Ant schrieb:
On 7/22/2010 4:36 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:
I know this has been discussed before a while ago with v2.0.5 updater,
but is it me or did v2.0.5 did not prompt me that there is an 2.0.6
update?
We never did prompt for 2.0.x security updates, so why should we start
now?
Uh
see no reason why anyone would want to stay on more broken releases
with the same functionality.
1.x vs. 2.0 has a lot of functionality changes, I see arguments there,
though IMHO none of them are good. ;-)
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Daniel schrieb:
Any possibility of going 2.0.3-2.0.4 and then, next start-up maybe,
2-0-4-2.0.5??
In theory, sure, but I don't know how our update system internals work.
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Daniel schrieb:
Why the full version??
We only issue partial updates from one version to the next. If you are
on a version older than 2.0.4, you need to use a full upgrade to get to
2.0.5, only 2.0.4 will get a partial one.
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Robert Kaiser schrieb:
All the builds for SeaMonkey 2.0.6 have been created (updates are
available on the betatest channel soon, going to beta as soon as I have
a few reports of the builds not being busted), so it's time for starting
tests on them to ensure we get an update out
smoother
with those.
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downloaded.
If you make installation of any add-ons impossible, then surely we don't
update them and also don't offer to.
That is different from SeaMonkey updates, though.
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Daniel schrieb:
Seems something is wrong here!
Yes, not letting it check daily and automatically apply security updates
is wrong, as it compromises your security.
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Pat Connors schrieb:
When I read the list, it was mentioned that this not the full 2.0.5 but
a security update.
The full 2.0.5 is a security update to 2.0.4, so I don't understand what
you mean...
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Sorry, forgot to remove that when pushing the release at almost 5am. ;-)
Thanks for noticing, it's fixed now.
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that are a prerequisite for this crash
protection work).
We still hope to get this to work for SeaMonkey 2.1 but a lot of work is
needed to make mail and newsgroups code ready to work with the changed
build settings needed to do that.
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Phillip Jones schrieb:
I find for me IRC Chat more useless than Tits on a Bull.
It's just the main realtime communications channel in Mozilla, like just
about every major open source project I've encountered.
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victim of website hijacking.
You'd wonder what can hide behind unsuspicious curtains these days on
the Internet. Trojan horses and compromised websites aren't really rare.
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