Re: Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:15:28 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

why don't you ask them?: 
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/contact.html.  They do 
also have their own newsgroup: public.mozdev.flashblock 
which is on the news.mozdev.org server.  The username 
and password are: mozdev/maduser


"them" is also here. You know this Peter.

Phil



that might be true, but the experts hang out in the 
areas I specified.  Its better to ask them there, than 
it is here, as you only show up once in a while.


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

2009-02-15 Thread David L. Ross

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Here's one I just hit. Visit >www.apple.com/support/>
SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the
left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks.


Works fine with current SeaMonkey 2 development versions.


How about usatoday.com? A rough estimate would be that 80% of the
stories I link to from from news.google.com never load the page in SM
but if I take the link into FFv3 they always load. In SM the window
stays blank but the spinning circled arrow never stops.


I can't see any problems there either with SeaMonkey 2, but of course I 
don't know what articles you're linking from elswhere.


I'm assuming SM 2 and the updated rendering engine takes care of most of this. 
Basically I have several customized searches on google news. As I indicated 
about 80% or more of the time links to a USA today story (not the home page) 
fails to display anything or stop loading. But if I copy the link into FFv3 it 
works fine.

Eagerly awaiting SMv2.

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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Well soon the SMs I can use will be completely dead end anyways,
since the 2.x versions won't work with WIN98.


Well, Win98 has been abandoned by its creator for a long time now and 
doesn't get any further security fixes itself, so I see no reason for 
providing security updates to random applications running there when the 
operating system itself doesn't get fixes to its known security flaws 
any more.


Robert Kaiser

Well security is not the only thing that I'm looking for.
I'd like to be running something that's reasonably well performing
and bug free. I might have hoped that 2.x (If it ran on win98)
might have some of the annoyances fixed without introducing
too many new, and wonderful, bugs.
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Re: Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:15:28 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

> why don't you ask them?: 
> http://flashblock.mozdev.org/contact.html.  They do 
> also have their own newsgroup: public.mozdev.flashblock 
> which is on the news.mozdev.org server.  The username 
> and password are: mozdev/maduser

"them" is also here. You know this Peter.

Phil

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Re: Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:54:02 -0500, Andrea wrote:

> I'm using SM 1.1.14 and have been using Flashblock 1.3.8. I've been having 
> problems with it--not seeing the usual marker where flash would go, so I 
> decided to uninstall it and then reinstall it. I installed the Mnenhy 
> extension and then deleted Flashblock from the Chrome Manager. When I 
> reopened SM, Flashblock was gone, but each time I try to install either 
> 1.3.8 or 1.3.9, I get a failed message that says that there's a registry 
> entry -239. I'm not adding a newer version because there seem to be bugs 
> when using with SM. Any advice? 

For your installation problem try this set of instructions:

1. Disable (or uninstall) Mnenhy.

2. Shut down SeaMonkey.

3. Locate your SeaMonkey profile directory. This should contain a
"chrome" subdirectory. This chrome directory should contain a
"overlayinfo" subdirectory. Delete the "overlayinfo" directory and
everything inside it.

4. Restart SeaMonkey and attempt to install Flashblock 1.3.8.

For your first problem. This might be cause by another extension
interfering with Flashblock. Try creating a new SeaMonkey profile and
installing only Flashblock. And you should try our latest version 1.3.11.



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Re: Mail folders disappeared

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Dan C wrote:
My wife uses seamonkey.  Today on start up, all mail folders were gone 
and reader was asking to create new account which I did.  But the new 
account did not find and associate itself with the mail folders


sounds like you create a new profile by accident.

I took this opportunity to make a clean install of SM 1.1.14 in separate 
folder and to uninstall older version.  This version also did not 
associate with mail folders either.


when you uninstall, all you're doing is removing the 
program.  The profile is not touched.  So, when you 
reinstall, it will pick up the last profile it used.


I have located the profile that contains the mail folders and they are 
intact.


What do I need to do?

TIA,

Dan


close SM.  Now, click on the windows start button, then 
run and enter:


seamonkey.exe -p

this will bring up the SM profile manager.  How many 
profiles do you see? If you see more than one, then 
click on them and find your main profile.


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Mail folders disappeared

2009-02-15 Thread Dan C
My wife uses seamonkey.  Today on start up, all mail folders were gone 
and reader was asking to create new account which I did.  But the new 
account did not find and associate itself with the mail folders


I took this opportunity to make a clean install of SM 1.1.14 in separate 
folder and to uninstall older version.  This version also did not 
associate with mail folders either.



I have located the profile that contains the mail folders and they are 
intact.


What do I need to do?

TIA,

Dan
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Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:



It looks like this:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gwelsh/Picture1.png

I have no idea how long that red text goes for, as it's obviously 
cut-off the screen.

Notice the blank menu bar (with the exception of the word SeaMonkey)

GW


Geoff, looks to me that you have an incompatible extension, something 
to do with "SavePage"!


Have you got the Extension Manager and the Extension Uninstaller 
installed, so that, under "Tools" (I think), you can see what 
extensions you have installed??


Daniel


Thanks for the input Daniel.  I don't have any of that stuff.  I've 
never, to the best of my recollection, tried to install any extensions. 
 I like SM "out of the box".


GW


create a test profile and see if the problem continues 
in that.  Does it?


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Re: Image Display

2009-02-15 Thread robert . gault

Palikari ATL wrote:

Using SM 1.1.14.   Ever since upgrading from 1.1.13 images are not
displaying correctly or at all on certain web sites.   I have gone to
the Image Manager and checked all the settings to no avail.Any
ideas, suggestions??

You need to post one or more urls that cause a problem.
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Image Display

2009-02-15 Thread Palikari ATL
Using SM 1.1.14.   Ever since upgrading from 1.1.13 images are not
displaying correctly or at all on certain web sites.   I have gone to
the Image Manager and checked all the settings to no avail.Any
ideas, suggestions??
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Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-02-15 Thread Daniel

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:



It looks like this:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gwelsh/Picture1.png

I have no idea how long that red text goes for, as it's obviously 
cut-off the screen.

Notice the blank menu bar (with the exception of the word SeaMonkey)

GW


Geoff, looks to me that you have an incompatible extension, something 
to do with "SavePage"!


Have you got the Extension Manager and the Extension Uninstaller 
installed, so that, under "Tools" (I think), you can see what 
extensions you have installed??


Daniel


Thanks for the input Daniel.  I don't have any of that stuff.  I've 
never, to the best of my recollection, tried to install any extensions. 
 I like SM "out of the box".


GW


The only occurance I've had of that little window at the bottom was when 
I installed some extension, and someone here told me how to fix it.


Sorry, I cannot be of further assistance.

Daniel
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Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-02-15 Thread Geoff Welsh

Daniel wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:



It looks like this:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gwelsh/Picture1.png

I have no idea how long that red text goes for, as it's obviously 
cut-off the screen.

Notice the blank menu bar (with the exception of the word SeaMonkey)

GW


Geoff, looks to me that you have an incompatible extension, something to 
do with "SavePage"!


Have you got the Extension Manager and the Extension Uninstaller 
installed, so that, under "Tools" (I think), you can see what extensions 
you have installed??


Daniel


Thanks for the input Daniel.  I don't have any of that stuff.  I've 
never, to the best of my recollection, tried to install any extensions. 
 I like SM "out of the box".


GW
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Re: No 2nd machine Users for SM? Mac

2009-02-15 Thread Daniel

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Tom Coradeschi:

At 07:23 PM -1000 02/06/2009, Geoff Welsh wrote:



But SM doesn't work!
It brings up a funny old style looking window with a bottom pane 
saying "parsing error" and there are no functions across the 
menu bar. It's totally blank.


Anyone know why this is?
No clue. What version of SM? We have never seen that with any of the 
1.1.x releases, nor the 2.0ax releases.


The description reminds me of a window like this one *g*
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/net070427.png (28 KB)

Sometimes a have seen this, here is another Screenshot, an old one.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060918
Mnenhy/0.7.4.10002 SeaMonkey/1.5a

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/xml20060919.png (3 KB)

Hartmut


It looks like this:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~gwelsh/Picture1.png

I have no idea how long that red text goes for, as it's obviously 
cut-off the screen.

Notice the blank menu bar (with the exception of the word SeaMonkey)

GW


Geoff, looks to me that you have an incompatible extension, something to 
do with "SavePage"!


Have you got the Extension Manager and the Extension Uninstaller 
installed, so that, under "Tools" (I think), you can see what extensions 
you have installed??


Daniel
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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

2009-02-15 Thread Robert Kaiser

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Here's one I just hit. Visit >www.apple.com/support/>
SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the
left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks.


Works fine with current SeaMonkey 2 development versions.


How about usatoday.com? A rough estimate would be that 80% of the
stories I link to from from news.google.com never load the page in SM
but if I take the link into FFv3 they always load. In SM the window
stays blank but the spinning circled arrow never stops.


I can't see any problems there either with SeaMonkey 2, but of course I 
don't know what articles you're linking from elswhere.


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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Ray_Net

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

System is Win98se on a 500Mhz Pentium 3 with ~760Mb of memory.
I just last week updated to from SM 1.0.7 to 1.1.14. and newsreader
performance has degraded abysmally!
Watching the behaviour with the system performance monitor, I notice
that system memory almost invariably gets 100% allocated, even over
allocated, with unused physical memory being depleted down to under
1Mb !!!. Everything slows down to a crawl.
When I connect to a news server, the system goes through a slow
cycle of checking each of the subscribed news groups for new messages.
For newsgroups.bellsouth.net. this is done in very bursty mode. i.e.
check 2-5 groups pause, with the pauses sometimes being 10-15 sec long
and even longer. In the meantime the system stops reacting to any
commands, such as to switch windows/processes.
When I switch newsgroups cpu goes 100% busy sometimes for several
minutes and the disk drive light sometimes goes wild.

(By the way, I have! shut off! Java in my profile as per a report by
MR Zeitz that setting Java on will kill newsreader performance. See
Re: Enabling Java makes mail and news sluggish,  posted on 2/2/2009
Message-ID: <6uo04cfgdi5...@mid.individual.net>
in the news group netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey)



Return to SM 1.0.7 


Thank you very much for the progressive 'tongue in cheek' advice.
Well soon the SMs I can use will be completely dead end anyways,
since the 2.x versions won't work with WIN98.

Sorry for that, but i cannot see another issue for SM 1.xxx

For the WIN98 and the SM 2.xxx look at the Philip Chee suggestion:
"Install KernelEx. This should allow you to install and run SeaMonkey
2.0a trunk builds on Windows98se."
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Re: Click here to remove all expired articles

2009-02-15 Thread Ray_Net

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

A Williams wrote:

I had the same problem a few weeks ago.

I am subscribed to 4 Newsgroups on my ISP's server and one of them was
exhibiting the same behaviour.  If I tried to look at the oldest
postings then I would get the message in the Subject line above,
actually clicking 'here' to removed the expired articles got me nowhere.

Unsubscribing and re-subscribing did not help, even with manually
renaming relevant files in my profile.  (I must have missed something
because that *should* have helped.  At least I did not nuke things
beyond redemption though)

I think the problem went away on its own in the end.  My guess was that
some message there contained values which screwed the cleanup process.
When that message expired, the cleanup cleaned up.

The Seamonkey level was a bit older, since upgraded.  I was not prepared
to create a new profile and migrate to it.  Too much work for a minor
irritant.

My guess would be that alt.os.linux.suse was the offending group, the
alternative being alt.linux.suse


perhaps it wasn't the newsgroups themselves that were the offenders, but 
the server.


Could be true  In that perspective; what happens when we click on 
the given link "Click here to remove all expired articles" ?

The Start of action is: news://news.scarlet.be/scarlet.be.general?list-ids
Are we accessing the server to obtain a news "list-ids" ?

Anyway, i have pseudo-solved my problem by fine tuning the "retention 
policy" to remove all old articles that were expired - then put again a 
greater value in the "retention policy" ...

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Re: Strange scrolling problem at some sites

2009-02-15 Thread JeffM
>Arne wrote:
>>That site is a disaster! The page the given url goes to:
>>Has Total HTTP Requests: 301
>>Total Size is: 1012882 bytes
>>and has 1040(!) Errors, 24 warning(s)
>>
>>All that and the fact it is aspx makes it a nightmare and probably cause
>>the described effect when scrolling. It's wonder it works at all! ;)
>>
Ray K wrote:
>Odd you are having all those problems.
>My only problem with the site was the scrolling annoyance.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

As Arne noted, he ran the page's HTML thru
the mechanism that checks the quality of the work put into the page.
(Imagine your English teacher correcting your term paper.)
The page came back with over 1000 red marks on it.
You can do the test yourself; click this link:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/02/14/A-Possible-Cure-for-Diabetes-Ignored-by-Big-Pharma.aspx

A single page that has that much junk crammed into it
http://google.com/search?q=site:mercola.com+intitle:Possible-Cure-for-Diabetes+-inurl:blogs
(977kB) is another indication that the webmaster there
has no clue what he is doing.

The problem with Web authoring tools
is that they hide the details from the clueless people who use them
--who then blindly accept the junky HTML they produce
and don't know how to check the quality of the output of their tools
(or don't care that they are producing crap).
Mostly these are people who have drunk the Windoze Kool-Aid.
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Re: Strange scrolling problem at some sites

2009-02-15 Thread Arne

Ray K wrote:

Arne wrote:



That site is a disaster! The page the given url goes to:

Has Total HTTP Requests: 301
Total Size is: 1012882 bytes
and has 1040(!) Errors, 24 warning(s)

All that and the fact it is aspx makes it a nightmare and probably 
cause the described effect when scrolling. It's wonder it works at 
all! ;)


Odd you are having all those problems. My only problem with the site was 
the scrolling annoyance.


I don't have "problems" other than the same as you have. I just 
pointed out what probably cause the problem, e.g. a lot (but not all) 
of the 1040 errors in the HTML code. But also a page with 1 Mb of code 
and content can make it hard to scroll smoothly.

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Re: Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Andrea
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Andrea wrote:
>> I'm using SM 1.1.14 and have been using Flashblock 1.3.8. I've been
>> having problems with it--not seeing the usual marker where flash
>> would go, so I decided to uninstall it and then reinstall it. I
>> installed the Mnenhy extension and then deleted Flashblock from the
>> Chrome Manager. When I reopened SM, Flashblock was gone, but each
>> time I try to install either 1.3.8 or 1.3.9, I get a failed message that 
>> says that there's a
>> registry entry -239. I'm not adding a newer version because there
>> seem to be bugs when using with SM. Any advice?
>>
>>
>
> why don't you ask them?:
> http://flashblock.mozdev.org/contact.html.  They do
> also have their own newsgroup: public.mozdev.flashblock
> which is on the news.mozdev.org server.  The username
> and password are: mozdev/maduser

I decided for now to just replace my profile with the backup. My laptop is 
going to be formatted this week with a clean install of Windows, so I'd 
rather not have to deal with other changes right now. 


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Re: Strange scrolling problem at some sites

2009-02-15 Thread Ray K

Arne wrote:



That site is a disaster! The page the given url goes to:

Has Total HTTP Requests: 301
Total Size is: 1012882 bytes
and has 1040(!) Errors, 24 warning(s)

All that and the fact it is aspx makes it a nightmare and probably cause 
the described effect when scrolling. It's wonder it works at all! ;)


Odd you are having all those problems. My only problem with the site was 
the scrolling annoyance.


Ray

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Re: SM 1.1.14 and Windows Vista?

2009-02-15 Thread Charles Milton Ling

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Charles Milton Ling wrote:

Greetings!

I'll be getting a new computer soon, with Vista preinstalled.  The 
installation instructions for SM do not mention Vista.  Will I have to 
switch to Firefox?


no.  SM will work on vista without problems



Thanks, Peter.  And thanks in general for being so helpful, I really 
appreciate that!


Greetings,
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Re: Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Andrea wrote:
I'm using SM 1.1.14 and have been using Flashblock 1.3.8. I've been having 
problems with it--not seeing the usual marker where flash would go, so I 
decided to uninstall it and then reinstall it. I installed the Mnenhy 
extension and then deleted Flashblock from the Chrome Manager. When I 
reopened SM, Flashblock was gone, but each time I try to install either 
1.3.8 or 1.3.9, I get a failed message that says that there's a registry 
entry -239. I'm not adding a newer version because there seem to be bugs 
when using with SM. Any advice? 





why don't you ask them?: 
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/contact.html.  They do 
also have their own newsgroup: public.mozdev.flashblock 
which is on the news.mozdev.org server.  The username 
and password are: mozdev/maduser


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Re: SM 1.1.14 and Windows Vista?

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Charles Milton Ling wrote:

Greetings!

I'll be getting a new computer soon, with Vista preinstalled.  The 
installation instructions for SM do not mention Vista.  Will I have to 
switch to Firefox?


no.  SM will work on vista without problems

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SM 1.1.14 and Windows Vista?

2009-02-15 Thread Charles Milton Ling

Greetings!

I'll be getting a new computer soon, with Vista preinstalled.  The 
installation instructions for SM do not mention Vista.  Will I have to 
switch to Firefox?


Best regards,
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Flashblock

2009-02-15 Thread Andrea
I'm using SM 1.1.14 and have been using Flashblock 1.3.8. I've been having 
problems with it--not seeing the usual marker where flash would go, so I 
decided to uninstall it and then reinstall it. I installed the Mnenhy 
extension and then deleted Flashblock from the Chrome Manager. When I 
reopened SM, Flashblock was gone, but each time I try to install either 
1.3.8 or 1.3.9, I get a failed message that says that there's a registry 
entry -239. I'm not adding a newer version because there seem to be bugs 
when using with SM. Any advice? 


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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread NoOp
On 02/14/2009 08:04 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
> NoOp wrote:

>> Should work just fine - I've run on much slower machines (I actually
>> have a 350Mhz laptop running w/Ubuntu 8.04). But with a machine that old
>> I'd recommend using 8.04 rather than 8.10. 8.10 is fine for most, but
>> 8.04 is a bit more stable on older systems (IMO). I'd also recommend to
>> download and install from the Alternate CD:
>> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
>> 
>> Use the LiveCD to to test without affecting your system, but some users
>> have experienced install issues with liveCD's. I've yet to have an
>> install issue with the Alternate CD.
>> 
>> @Rostyslaw: you can dualboot, but in order to do so you'll reasonably
>> need 10GB of hard drive partition to do so. You can do it in about 4GB,
>> but you'll quickly run out of space once you start adding all the cool
>> applications that are available w/linux.
>> 
>> 
> Thank you for the suggestions, both you and Stephane and Phillip Chee.
> System is 500Mhz P3, 768MB memory, with SCSI. C: & D: are each 8GB.
> C: has 2.5GB available and D: has ~6GB.
> I suppose that I'll have to learn how to read news running SM from an
> Ubuntu LiveCD.
> So what's the feedback on the expected performance of such a lash up?
> Is it likely to be better or worse than the 1.1.14 on my base 98se
> system? The current system doesn't actually crash. It just has
> deteriorated to the speed of a sluggish snail.

Backup whatever you have on D (and C) and install 8.04 to D - let it
have the entire drive. It will automatically identify your Win98 on
drive C and create a dual-boot entry in grub (the boot loader). After
the install is complete, it will reboot & give you menu for both. After
you boot into Ubuntu, install SeaMonkey (post back when you get to that
stage & we'll show you how to do that); you'll be able to copy your
existing Win98 SeaMonkey over to your Ubuntu/linux .mozilla directory.
With a few minor edits, you'll be good as new. After that gets working
you can install SM 2.x in parallel (it won't affect your 1.1.14) so you
can become familiar with the new generation.

Performance will be very reasonable; you'll have a large learning curve,
but once settled in I doubt that you'll spend much time booting into
Win98. All of that is OT for this group, so if you do decide to take the
leap, let me know off group (drop the .invalid at the end of my email
address) and I'll be happy to help guide you through it.
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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Benoit Renard wrote:
 Plug-ins can cause memory leaks. So can extensions. Suggesting 
to reboot is not a good solution either way.


well, so far you haven't come up with a suggestion.

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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Benoit Renard
It's also worth noting that there are barely any known security 
vulnerabilities in the first place.

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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Robert Kaiser wrote:

I see no reason for providing security updates to random applications
running there when the operating system itself doesn't get fixes to its
known security flaws any more.


It does get security fixes. Just not officially.
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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Benoit Renard

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

So, trying to find a solution to the memory leak, you won't find it with
SM 1.x


There are always possible solutions that don't necessitate developer 
effort. Plug-ins can cause memory leaks. So can extensions. Suggesting 
to reboot is not a good solution either way.

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Re: SM 1.1.14 and memory usage/management

2009-02-15 Thread Robert Kaiser

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Well soon the SMs I can use will be completely dead end anyways,
since the 2.x versions won't work with WIN98.


Well, Win98 has been abandoned by its creator for a long time now and 
doesn't get any further security fixes itself, so I see no reason for 
providing security updates to random applications running there when the 
operating system itself doesn't get fixes to its known security flaws 
any more.


Robert Kaiser
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