Re: help with site
On 3/9/2021 4:26 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Hawker wrote: Any idea what is going on here? This site comes up with a challenge question, but the "button" to click below doesn't show up at all for me. In firefox I don't even get the challenge. Any idea what it is looking for that is an issue and why the button is missing? It used to work just fine. https://www.trustedparts.com/en/search/MMBF5457 Try changing your UA String from: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6 TO: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:85.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/85.0 Alas that didn't work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
help with site
Any idea what is going on here? This site comes up with a challenge question, but the "button" to click below doesn't show up at all for me. In firefox I don't even get the challenge. Any idea what it is looking for that is an issue and why the button is missing? It used to work just fine. https://www.trustedparts.com/en/search/MMBF5457 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Teams in Seamonkey or FireFox?
On 1/19/2021 12:57 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Hawker wrote: Is there any way to get Microsoft Teams to work in Seamonkey or maybe at least FireFox? When I click the link it doesn't even give me the option in SM or FireFox. Works in Opera but I don't really use Opera. Are you trying to avoid using the Teams app on your computer? That seems to be the better way to use Teams videoconferencing, at least... I have one vendor that wants to use Teams. My entire industry is almost 100% run on Skype and GotoMeeting with some Zoom that the younger US folks use. I don't want to install a special app and sign up for a service for a one time thing with one vendor. It's supposed to work in browser, it does with other browsers but apparently not Mozilla based ones. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Teams in Seamonkey or FireFox?
Is there any way to get Microsoft Teams to work in Seamonkey or maybe at least FireFox? When I click the link it doesn't even give me the option in SM or FireFox. Works in Opera but I don't really use Opera. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!
On 11/19/2020 1:54 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Hawker wrote: On 11/15/2020 11:23 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: Greetings, The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.53.5. While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only gotten the chance of posting this today. My apologies. So please check out [1] or [2]. Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1 out. Thanks to all involved. Edmund Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/ Thank you so much for getting this out so fast and your continued support of the project. Will update this weekend. You are aware that this is not the newest version? 2.53.5.1 is, see the release announcement for that level. yes commented on the wrong thread. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!
On 11/15/2020 11:23 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: Greetings, The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.53.5. While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only gotten the chance of posting this today. My apologies. So please check out [1] or [2]. Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1 out. Thanks to all involved. Edmund Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/ Thank you so much for getting this out so fast and your continued support of the project. Will update this weekend. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!
On 11/15/2020 11:23 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: Greetings, The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.53.5. While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only gotten the chance of posting this today. My apologies. So please check out [1] or [2]. Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1 out. Thanks to all involved. Edmund Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/ Thank you for still chugging away on this application. Any idea when the 53.1 patch will be released? If it is very soon I will likely just wait for it before I update. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Safeway.com is another one.
Oh wow! Just land there and SM locks up! I'm finding a lot where the spacing and fonts just look different. Pretty much any page made in Squarespace does not render correct in SM. Here is one I came across yesterday that is interesting. The text is all scrambled and on top of each other in SM but fine in FF. https://www.audiotester.de/ The last month or so it seems to be getting to over half my browsing experience. I too don't like the UI in FF but I think I may be running out of options. Switching browsers or discovering that the thing I was fighting works in the other browser is a huge time suck. On 11/9/2020 3:48 PM, Ant wrote: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=3066867 from https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32935855-. It also affects Pale Moon. :( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: is Facebook mostly broken now on seamonkey?
I get it Geko 60 is over 2 year outdated, but it blows me away that a 2 year old browsers engine is pretty much unusable in today's fast moving world. One would think high use websites would be less dependent on new changes. Sounds like SM is not going to ever catch up I guess. I'm about to over half my web experience works on FF but not SM these days. This reminds me of the Netscape 4.x days when I hung onto Netscape (was it 4.8?) Way longer than I should have. I think if I could figure out the side bar and how to easier do selective cookie blocking and on blocking on FF I would move. The anti tracking stuff and mostly improved privacy controls there are really nice. A few plug ins I use here are not available there though so that is an issue. I'll miss Image Zoom for the biggest loss and I prefer Seamonkeys way to handle inline search. On 11/8/2020 3:54 PM, Ant wrote: Yeah, Facebook is slow and sluggish in SeaMonkey because of its older Gecko engine (like Firefox v60). Same for other web sites like Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. Some Facebook features don't work as well for me too. :( I have to use other web browsers like the (lat/new)est Firefox. I refuse to use Chrome and IE11. On 11/8/2020 8:19 AM, Hawker wrote: Ever since the new facebook news feed it's been mostly unusable with Seamonkey for me. I'm wondering if others are having these issues and what we can do about it? Some examples. all verified not an issue in FireFox. 1) If I open more than 2 tabs seamonky locks up and/or gives unresponsive script errors. I have to force close with task manager. 2) Commenting does not open boxes so I get 1.5 lines as I type and can't see what I type 3) Notifications truncate so I can't read the entire notification. 4) Graphics tools in the Business manager don't work at all. I can do the function but it never saves. Other business manager functions don't work correctly either 5) General slow and unresponsiveness. This month I am getting more and more sites that don't look right in SM that do in others or simply don't work. A lot of my business stuff like Mailchimp, square-space and more have serious lost functionality in SM. Not sure how much longer I can hang on to SM but I'm kicking and screaming about having to move.-- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, z, tiredness, my body, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19 & SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), heat, interruptions, issues, conflicts, obstacles, stresses, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. D: Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
is Facebook mostly broken now on seamonkey?
Ever since the new facebook news feed it's been mostly unusable with Seamonkey for me. I'm wondering if others are having these issues and what we can do about it? Some examples. all verified not an issue in FireFox. 1) If I open more than 2 tabs seamonky locks up and/or gives unresponsive script errors. I have to force close with task manager. 2) Commenting does not open boxes so I get 1.5 lines as I type and can't see what I type 3) Notifications truncate so I can't read the entire notification. 4) Graphics tools in the Business manager don't work at all. I can do the function but it never saves. Other business manager functions don't work correctly either 5) General slow and unresponsiveness. This month I am getting more and more sites that don't look right in SM that do in others or simply don't work. A lot of my business stuff like Mailchimp, square-space and more have serious lost functionality in SM. Not sure how much longer I can hang on to SM but I'm kicking and screaming about having to move. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Images On One Site
On 10/16/2020 10:00 AM, GerardJan wrote: Hawker wrote on 10/16/20 4:40 AM: On 10/14/2020 10:11 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Support for webp and av1 will be available in 2.53.5 beta 1 and up. When would you guess this might be released? I am already on: I meant as out of Beta released. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20201012210006 I'm still hanging on here, barely, mostly because the thought of learning a new browser is overwhelming but there are a lot of sites that seem to be using this right now. That and the recent Facebook Look up issue are really infuriating. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Images On One Site
On 10/14/2020 10:11 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Support for webp and av1 will be available in 2.53.5 beta 1 and up. When would you guess this might be released? I'm still hanging on here, barely, mostly because the thought of learning a new browser is overwhelming but there are a lot of sites that seem to be using this right now. That and the recent Facebook Look up issue are really infuriating. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Win7-Pro, Seamonkey-64, and Skype
On 8/27/2020 6:23 PM, Henrik37 wrote: Is there some way to get the current version of Skype to run with Win 7-Pro systems and SeaMonkey v.2.53 without having a Microsoft account? I have found it all but impossible to find a tutorial telling one how to proceed. Pointers to an appropriate source of information will be most appreciated. Note sure what the problem is. I have exactly all you state, I have SM2.53, skype and no MS account. My skype account is legacy from before MS purchased them however. With SM you download the program here https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/ Then install it. If you have a skype account then enter it and all will work fine. If you do not already have a skype account, then yes you are SOL as you must create a MS account to use skype but SM is fine. An old pre-MS account still works. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!
I agree there are issues on particular sites, but for those sites that are not site specific problems it seems to be more responsive. On 7/10/2020 3:10 PM, Ant wrote: Less crashes in v2.53.3? I hope so. We'll see... Yeah, TheOnion.com is still having issues for me too. Responsive and snappier? No. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. are still slow for me. :( On 7/10/2020 11:12 AM, Hawker wrote: After a few days of use I see no issues, but it also did not fix any the sites that worked in 2.49 that were broken in 2.49 like HomeDepot and TheOnion. On the good side the frequent crashes of 2.53.2 seem to have been fixed and It does seem to be more responsive, snappier. Was there something changed to fix that. Facebook still stalls out bad and the ecaptcha 2 speed issue reported in firefox as well is pretty bad. ...- Life is so crazy! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!
After a few days of use I see no issues, but it also did not fix any the sites that worked in 2.49 that were broken in 2.49 like HomeDepot and TheOnion. On the good side the frequent crashes of 2.53.2 seem to have been fixed and It does seem to be more responsive, snappier. Was there something changed to fix that. Facebook still stalls out bad and the ecaptcha 2 speed issue reported in firefox as well is pretty bad. On 7/7/2020 5:10 AM, Edmund Wong wrote: Greetings, The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.53.3. So please check out [1] or [2]. Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately. I am *still* working on it. Thanks to all involved. Edmund Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.3 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.3/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pictures no longer show
On 6/13/2020 8:34 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Hawker wrote: On 6/12/2020 6:39 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: I have yet see a site that fails in 2.53.x and works in 2.49 but there may be some. On the other hand there are a lot of sites no longer working in 2.49. Home Depot, Not accessible geo blocking Ali Baba Can browse fine. Where is the problem? Login related? Redit, Fixed in 2.53.3. Recent breakage. WLOS Works fine including video player. Where is the problem login related? Needed to whitelist a bunch of sites in NoScript. Facebook (locks up and crashes in 2.53 not in 2.49) Don't use is. Not aware of problems. The Onion Gave up. Sh*t site. Probably needs event features or new image formats ported but not sure. Also SM 2.53 crashes or locks up multiple times a day for me, 2.49 crashed maybe once every other week for me. 2.53 almost never crashes for me. The one crash I have now and then on shutdown is because of a work in prograss patch not in the tree. Without a crash id I just say you have hardware or other problems. You can prove me wrong by providing a crash id. All these sites work in fine 2.49 but have serious issues in 2.53 If they crash you have a different problem. Cool if you want to blame the site rather than Seamonkey when these sites work on every other browser I tried. But since the other browsers work I ain't buying it. Me neither. I know that SM is missing features and has problems. But I also know that 2.53 is better than 2.49 and that is what I said. Reddit is fixed in 2.53.3. Without a crash id nothing can be fixed or verified. And yes I blame sites like the onion because they are bloatad sh*t. And if you suppot these sites it is your choice and you might need a different browser. As you said. We can't keep up with a 100 people effitively working against you and turning out half baked specs and features just to support the latest Chrome. What I am sick of is general reports liks yours. Nothing works; Always crashes; Writing is on the wall; blablabla. This can not be fixed. There is the error log which should show javascript and other errors. There is the crash reporter. And there is bugzilla where problems can be reported at a last resort but need clear instructions to reproduce including urls not "I am running SeaMonkey for a day and then nothing works; it crashes daily without a reason; memory goes up by magic or whatever. FRG Frank. I don't even know where to start with a messed up response like yours. I don't use it, or I don't like that site is not a valid reason to dismiss a problem. All the sites I listed have serious functionality issues in 2.53 that they do not in 2.49. Many of the issues are buried beyond the home screen and unless you are a user it is lost to even try to explain. Your response to much of this reminds me of what activists call victim blaming. IE if you didn't wear that sexy outfit you wouldn't have gotten raped so it's your fault. If you didn't use that site that I don't like that works in every other browser you tried you wouldn't have problems so it's your fault, just don't use those sites. The bottom line is users are experiencing problems that we are not with other sites. We are, mostly not programmers, the things you ask for are beyond our time and/or technical ability. When I look at Bugzilla I am lost as it isn't readable or usable to a non programmer. Java console? Same thing. I'm an EE not a programmer. Look I get it. Y'all are over worked, under staffed, under funded. You are working with both hands tied behind your back and it is a losing battle for an obscure bowers that most people have never heard of. Kudos to you. I appreciate you keeping the abandoned Mozilla sweat going all these years but it clearly is getting to the end of it's acceptance and usability due to a lack of greater public interst. Reminds me of when I had to finally abandon my beloved Netscape 4.8. I feel for you. I don't want to dump on you or blame you for the problems. But the fact is that SM is many many revisions of the engine behind and there are more and more sites everyday that are breaking due to this. I started with Netscape 1.0 (yes I go back that far). I like SM, I want to continue with SM but at the point where I have to maintain two or three different browsers just to do do. Yes it sucks that Sites have to "turning out half baked specs and features just to support the latest Chrome." but that is the state and reality of the internet today and people need to use those "half baked and bad coded sites". We don't often have the option to just ignore a site as you seem to. If Digikey (another site I use daily that has some functional issues around refreshes in 2.53 that were not in 2.49) has issues it cost me and my clients time and money. I can't deal with that. I don't have the luxury to say "crappy site&quo
Re: pictures no longer show
On 6/12/2020 6:39 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: I have yet see a site that fails in 2.53.x and works in 2.49 but there may be some. On the other hand there are a lot of sites no longer working in 2.49. Home Depot, Ali Baba Redit, WLOS Facebook (locks up and crashes in 2.53 not in 2.49) The Onion Also SM 2.53 crashes or locks up multiple times a day for me, 2.49 crashed maybe once every other week for me. All these sites work in fine 2.49 but have serious issues in 2.53 Cool if you want to blame the site rather than Seamonkey when these sites work on every other browser I tried. But since the other browsers work I ain't buying it. The problem is clearly that SM doesn't have a large enough crew to keep it working and lots of broken sites. It's a shame as it clearly is the better browser. I love SM, I want to stay here but daily I find sites that don't work correctly with it. I don't trust Cromium at all, esp considering where it comes from. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pictures no longer show
On 6/11/2020 10:21 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Hawker wrote: Since updating from 2.49 to 2.52 the number of sites I now have to use with a different browser to work has significantly increased. I have a ton of new sites that the pictures no longer show up in. Someone else mentioned Home Depot and Reddit issues as some of them. The other surprising one is The Onion https://www.theonion.com/anna-kendrick-s-love-life-pulled-from-hbo-max-until-i-1843999236 For example works in Firefox but not Seamonkey. Is this also in the 52.3 fix? What is happening with the no picture bug? At least 2.52 fixed the go fund me page issue. As an experiment, try this UA override: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 I am running the build by W9Gs Seamonkey 2.53.4 beta 1pre. The pictures fail to show up. It seems that the fix is not in for the 2.53.4 beta :-( . Thanx for verifying. That is discouraging. 2.53.2 broke a tone of sites and plug ins. I'm seriously thinking of going back to 2.49. This is very disheartening. Still wondering when I'm going to finally move to a new browser. I'm not liking that idea but the handwriting is clearly on the wall when my list of sites I can no longer use in SM is getting so large. I'm half moved over to FF at this point anyway, I just don't like FF. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
pictures no longer show
Since updating from 2.49 to 2.52 the number of sites I now have to use with a different browser to work has significantly increased. I have a ton of new sites that the pictures no longer show up in. Someone else mentioned Home Depot and Reddit issues as some of them. The other surprising one is The Onion https://www.theonion.com/anna-kendrick-s-love-life-pulled-from-hbo-max-until-i-1843999236 For example works in Firefox but not Seamonkey. Is this also in the 52.3 fix? What is happening with the no picture bug? At least 2.52 fixed the go fund me page issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/26/2020 2:14 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/25/2020 4:49 PM, flyguy wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM: flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? > What's wrong? For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2. Oops. Forgot to show the link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a problem with SM setup and not the version. There are 115 HTML errors and 75 CSS errors in that Web page. I believe your problem is with the Web page and not with SeaMonkey. The phone number for Home Depot's Web site feedback is 1-800-435-4654. These kinds of answers are really unhelpful and, personally, tick me off. There may be tons of "errors" but fact of the matter is that Firefox, Opera and Chrome manage to parse it correctly and work anyway. And since Firefox and SM are both Gecko it really points to SM's issue. So at that point you really can't blame the website, it is Seamonkey's inability to deal with being able to properly parse what is thrown at it while others do it no problem. So nope, not buying it. This is a Seamonkey issue not a website issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/26/2020 12:02 AM, flyguy wrote: Hawker wrote on 5/25/2020 6:02 PM: On 5/25/2020 1:57 PM, flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? I think HD is seriously broken in FM 2.49 and 2.5x. As of now I can't open videos, pictures or see product preview images in search. The last of that broke about 2 weeks ago and the site started breaking about 3 months ago. It all works in FireFox bot not SM. I gave up trying to figure out what it was. That is my fear - that upgrading won't fix it. I feel like a trend is developing, as every week or two or three, another site fails to work on SM, but is fine with Chrome. This time it's the Home Depot videos, last time it was a site that displayed for a second then went blank (but was fine in Chrome), and before that a site where the buttons were invisible, but displayed in Chrome. My wife uses Chrome for Facebook, because SM makes it jump around or become sluggish. I've been using SM since Netscape went away - 20+ years - but it seems like it's getting creaky and tired. The email still seems good, though. Yep, I upgraded to the latest SM. No change. It works fine in FireFox but not Seamonkey. It's frustrating for sure. I'm in a similar boat. Old Netscape user since 2.0, Mozilla Suite then SeaMonkey was the way to go. But it is probably time to move on. I constantly have to move to FireFox for websites that work there but not Seamonkey. I would move but SM has some features and controls I really like that FF does not, or I have not figured out in FF. I migrated my E-mail to Thunderbird a long time ago. I prefer the SM interface but it lacked updates and features I needed that TB had (like the fast search indexing) and SM didn't handle my massive data base well without frequent crashes and corruption that I am not having in TB. The handwriting is on the wall, but I'm still fighting it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening an attached PDF file
On 5/8/2020 12:32 PM, Ken wrote: I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF file I received. Previously I had done so by clicking on the attached file and choosing OPEN. I can save the file to a folder and open it there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if possible. I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems to have no effect. Any ideas what might have happened or how to get this ability back?? I have also noticed that opening PDFs from a website in browser has broken in the latest release. I read somewhere that support for some older plugin formats has stopped with this release. Could it be the same issue? I have a post later down that seems to be the same issue showing up differently. I think Acrobat opening in browser is broken in this release. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Does the Acrobat DC plug in no longer work in SM 2.53? Other broken helper apps
Since updating to SM 2.53 I'm having "helper app" issues. The most annoying is that PDFs no longer open in the browser. Going to the helper app, I set it to open in SM or always ask but it stays on always ask. I seem to remember reading this this version was going to break a bunch of legacy plug ins. Could this be that? Also for JPGs I have it set to Always Ask but it is opening in SM every time no matter what helper apps is set to. What gives? I tried setting it to save and it won't change. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/25/2020 1:57 PM, flyguy wrote: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? I think HD is seriously broken in FM 2.49 and 2.5x. As of now I can't open videos, pictures or see product preview images in search. The last of that broke about 2 weeks ago and the site started breaking about 3 months ago. It all works in FireFox bot not SM. I gave up trying to figure out what it was. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: clear ask "remember" save as / open with flag
On 4/22/2020 3:23 PM, EE wrote: Hawker wrote: Where do I clear the "remember" option for save as or open with flag in Seamonkey? I think I accidentally clicked the remember option for an open and now it is no longer asking me for that file type. I looked in the content handler in preferences, where I thought it was, but that is set to ask, yet it isn't asking. Is it site specific? Go to Preferences > Helper Applications and set the setting for that item to "Always ask". For some reason that didn't fix it. That is what I tried to start but it must be somewhere else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: change default download?
On 4/22/2020 2:56 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Hawker wrote: I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally. When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open it with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in SeaMonkey. Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to ask me again? I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place. Thanx Have you tried right-clicking on it? I dont have Faecebook myself so I don't know how it offers the pictures. I do that when I can but in this case that doesn't work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: change default download?
On 4/22/2020 2:56 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Hawker wrote: I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally. When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open it with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in SeaMonkey. Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to ask me again? I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place. Thanx Have you tried right-clicking on it? I dont have Faecebook myself so I don't know how it offers the pictures. I do that when I can but in this case that doesn't work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
clear ask "remember" save as / open with flag
Where do I clear the "remember" option for save as or open with flag in Seamonkey? I think I accidentally clicked the remember option for an open and now it is no longer asking me for that file type. I looked in the content handler in preferences, where I thought it was, but that is set to ask, yet it isn't asking. Is it site specific? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1
On 4/21/2020 3:00 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: 2.53 is not in good shape. It works supergreat for me but at least the mailnews part still needs a big overhaul. Practically all changes we do for 2.53 go into 2.57 and up in parallel so future versions benefit. And every time I look closer at 2.57 I find something mozilla broke. Thank you for the clear explanation. Honestly I moved mail to Thunderbird maybe 3-4 years ago. I kept having corrupted inbox issues if the box got too large and lack of Thunderbird's advanced search pushed me over. I preferred the feel of SM but had to do it and mail/news was just to feature laging. I keep trying Firefox but the lost features (esp how it handles cookie exemptions, lack of side bar, harder to use UI, and other issues) there are greater than any benefit right now so I'll keep my trusty Seamonkey now. Although some of FireFoxes new built in privacy features for FB and other things are really nice, that may be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. My chrome loving wife has been using my Seamonkey the last few days and says she way prefers the features of SM, but prefers the speed and compatibility of Chrome. I always ended up added custom filters to ABP. I seldom need to tweak uBlock and memory usage did go down alot. Good to know. Hopefully I find the same. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1
On 4/21/2020 10:48 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Hawker wrote: Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete). Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which often required different lists). lots of research and configurations work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for other things. I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the time right now to do the same with uBlock Something you might want to try When I was running AdBlock Plus, I had also done quite a bit of tuning, but I when I moved to uBlock Origin, I didn't need to do an unreasonable amount of work. uBlock can pretty much subscribe to the same lists that ABP does. Yes, it does take a little bit of time getting to uBlock's different UI, and it is a little more effort to dig into individual blocking rules. However, with uBlock, I find that I spend less time tinkering with the rules than I did with ABP, and ultimately, that's time I can spend doing what I want to do. What you might want to do is to create a new profile and install uBlock in that -- add all the subscriptions you want (and for that matter, any other extensions you consider to be essential), and see what things look like. You might find that you get enough blocking immediately, without having to spend much more time, at least not initially. It's likely that a lot of the fine-tuning that you want is probably better done as tweaks that are done in the context of of the moment. If initial setups of uBlock do enough for you in the second profile, then that will tell you if you can replace ABP in your primary profile without an unreasonable amount of work. Smith thanx. That is great advise. I was wondering, rather than a different profile, if I could just have both installed and disable in the add on manager the one i am not using. this way I can disable ABP, try uBlock and if I don't like it or it needs more work to make me happy just revert back to disable uBlock and ABP. This way I get to try it in my real profile, which is probably more real world anyway. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1
On 4/21/2020 4:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29: Yamo' wrote: Hi, So the questions are: - Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ? No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a hard block in to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first. - What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ? At least a year or two away with the current resources. We either keep up with 2.53 or do 2.57 full time. The later is not an option. I'm not sure I understand this. Given the lack of resources wouldn't it make the most sense to get 2.53.x to some point "good enough" as quickly as you can, maybe once 2.53.2 drops then let it go and move on to 2.57? I realize that could leave 2.53 in bad shape, but we had that with 2.49 and it would be really nice to get SM to a more current engine with less website compatibility issues. The more y'all delay working on newer versions the more behind SM gets and the more folks move to a new tool. Not sure why you cling to ABP and 2.49.1 (this one is even more obsolete). Clinging to ABP for me is because it took me several days to get it working the way I wanted years ago. I had to find various lists, see which ones worked better than others. Deal with broken websites (which often required different lists). lots of research and configurations work I don't particularly like to do and would rather use my time for other things. I know I need to move on but don't want to invest the time right now to do the same with uBlock Older fr dictionary can be used with 2.53.x and I am working on getting web ext dictionary support in. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1
On 4/20/2020 12:42 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Hawker wrote: On 4/20/2020 11:34 AM, NFN Smith wrote: I'm wondering how many of my problems with lock up and excessive memory usage is from AdBlock. The fact that the lists have not been updated in years is also an issue. I confess that the time to research and change and configure to uBlock is part of why I am still at 2.49.5 but I am suspecting the issue goes back to my version as well. I'm pretty sure when 2.53.2 comes out I'll change to uBlock and update. Ti.com stopped working with 2.49.5 this week and I am really hoping 2.53 fixes that. Seems to be working fine including search at first glance: https://www.ti.com/store/ti/en/search/?text=74ls04= Basically there was only a single problem with 2.53.2 beta 1 reported so far wrt language packs and the upgrade. The final will get some additonal security and a few minor issue fixes so I would say even the beta is good to go. Installing the final over the beta will be smooth. FRG Thanx for the info. Turns out the TI problem, so far, was a conflict with AdBlock that didn't exist before. Another reason to switch to uBlock I guess. The search was broken but also so was some of the page navigation when you click order now etc. It worked a week ago. I spend a few hours a day on that site usually so it was a big blow. There is a lot that is way harder to do on the new page they launched or doesn't work anymore no matter what browser I use so I am hoping TI is on it for the other issues. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1
On 4/20/2020 11:34 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ... But I see that: - FireBug is not available anymore. so what ? - AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ? - What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed anymore ? For FireBug and true-full-screen- if you don't know why you need them, chances are pretty good that you don't need them. You might try disabling and seeing how Seamonkey behaves. I suspect you'll never know the difference. If you read the 2.53.1 release notes https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ , the Extensions section not only notes that AdBlock Plus is problematic, but there is still a version of uBlock Origin that is working (and supported), and there is a link offered. For AdBlock, the issue is that they've stopped supporting XUL extensions, and at version 2.53.x Seamonkey does not support WebExtension extensions. I will note that I'm quite content with what I'm getting out of uBlock. Smith I'm wondering how many of my problems with lock up and excessive memory usage is from AdBlock. The fact that the lists have not been updated in years is also an issue. I confess that the time to research and change and configure to uBlock is part of why I am still at 2.49.5 but I am suspecting the issue goes back to my version as well. I'm pretty sure when 2.53.2 comes out I'll change to uBlock and update. Ti.com stopped working with 2.49.5 this week and I am really hoping 2.53 fixes that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
change default download?
I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally. When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open it with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in SeaMonkey. Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to ask me again? I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place. Thanx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.53.1's about:crashes' report ID link doesn't work.
On 3/31/2020 4:53 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Hawker wrote: On 3/18/2020 7:11 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/6/2020 10:15 AM, Ant wrote: Hello. I just had my very first crash in v2.53.1 while opening a couple new web site tabs. I shared my report and restarted SeaMonkey v2.53.1. I went to its about:crashes web page, but its report ID link doesn't work and its URL shows http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/about/throttling. Is anyone else having this problem too if you shared your crash reports? :( What's up? Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :) I just had another crash and was able to send a new crash report. Hmm, I had two crashes since I installed v2.53.1 on its public release day. What about the rest of you? The problem seems to have been fixed around 9 days ago, and as FRG says: doubleclick on the previous entries if you want to send them. I suspect he meant if you have crashes. So far what I see is that the volume is low but might mean not many still using SeaMonkey or upgraded. I fixed about 5 top crashers for 2.53.2 and a bunch of other bug fixes in too. FRG I have waited on 2.53.1 to see how stable it is since it was a big jump. I don't have time to deal with a lot of issues. Sounds like I should wait for 2.53.2 perhaps? I'm starting to have a lot of websites that don't work with 2.49.5 so maybe that is not smart. When do you think we will see a release of the next 53.x? IF it is short sounds like I should wait. We plan to build the 2.53.2 beta this week. Ewong usually needs a few days to upload it then. Release 2-3 weeks later if nothing serious comes up. FRG Thank you for the clear information. I went digging to see what I could find to download and found 2.53.3 but not 2.53.2 Are you perhaps going to skip 0.2 and go to .3 or have a .3 quickly after? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.53.1's about:crashes' report ID link doesn't work.
On 3/18/2020 7:11 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/6/2020 10:15 AM, Ant wrote: Hello. I just had my very first crash in v2.53.1 while opening a couple new web site tabs. I shared my report and restarted SeaMonkey v2.53.1. I went to its about:crashes web page, but its report ID link doesn't work and its URL shows http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/about/throttling. Is anyone else having this problem too if you shared your crash reports? :( What's up? Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :) I just had another crash and was able to send a new crash report. Hmm, I had two crashes since I installed v2.53.1 on its public release day. What about the rest of you? The problem seems to have been fixed around 9 days ago, and as FRG says: doubleclick on the previous entries if you want to send them. I suspect he meant if you have crashes. So far what I see is that the volume is low but might mean not many still using SeaMonkey or upgraded. I fixed about 5 top crashers for 2.53.2 and a bunch of other bug fixes in too. FRG I have waited on 2.53.1 to see how stable it is since it was a big jump. I don't have time to deal with a lot of issues. Sounds like I should wait for 2.53.2 perhaps? I'm starting to have a lot of websites that don't work with 2.49.5 so maybe that is not smart. When do you think we will see a release of the next 53.x? IF it is short sounds like I should wait. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey not responding
On 2/24/2020 7:44 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Cheryl wrote: Yes I also get the "Script has stopped responding and do I want to Continue or Stop the Script", and I know at that point I need to back out of the site if I can. This also happens to me if I go into Password Manager under Tools menu. The password manager problem is covered in the release notes since some time: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/ >> If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, because this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions and other settings. << Might well be that a site tries to save to local storage or request a password which probbaly will fail then too. FRG Any chance any of you having this issue are still using Adblock Plus 2.9.1 ? I also have been having constant script stopped working errors and browser hangs. Often I get the BSOD from these. Some googling has lead me to believe that it may be incompatibility with ABP. I'm going to try to change to uBlock or whatever it is called before updating to the just released version of SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is realistic for the next release?
On 10/29/2019 7:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Hawker wrote: I'm sticking with 2.49.5 right now. I don't really want to move to the newer builds until they are more official I don't think. That said there is an increasing number of websites that no longer work in SM with any UI string that work in FireFox. I wonder how many of them will be fixed in a newer SM but not sure how much longer I can wait. So what is realistic? Will we have a 2.5x.y build some time in the next 6 months or what is realistic? And if I do want to try something built on a newer engine what version of SM is the safest yet sufficiently newer for Windowz 7? And where should I get it from? We are wanting to do at least 2 2.53.1 betas this year. Basically Bills 2.53.1 will become an official release. A few private patches from me / Bill and work in progress fixes will be dropped from it then. http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ We are currently fixing and backporting bugs left and right. In parallel we are setting up an official gitlab repo for it. We don't want to check in around 3000 patches into a release branch in the official mozilla repos. The gods owning them might not be amused then. All fixes for SeaMonkey go into the later branches too but 2.57 is not usable yet with mail broken. Yesterdays 2.53.1 had a bug with mail delete. Next one will fix it. If you try it please backup your profile. You will not be able to go back to 2.49.5. Will be upgraded (compatible with the upcoming official). If you use a master paxsword remove it before upgrading and reapply later. FRG Thank you for this great and thorough reply and all the info you gave below as well. This was exactly the clear concise information I was looking for. Also thank you very much for your work on the project against all the odds and lack of help. Some of us are still really hooked on SM. Speaking for me I see the handwriting on the wall and assume with x.57 being the end of the line (and a late release) I will need to move on at some point. I have tried to move to other browsers but I don't like any of them. FF has a few deal breakers in how it handles privacy that make it not usable for me and others lack features I depend on. It reminds me of how long I clinged to Netscape 4.8 until MozSuite caught up. If Email is the big issue with the new releases that is a non issue for me. Alas I had to move my e-mail to TB a couple years ago when it became apparent SM would not get TBs search capabilities and the SM mail client was getting crazy sluggish and having trouble handling my huge e-mail base that TB didn't seem to have issues with. I kept having to split directories to smaller chunks so it was usable and not sluggish, a problem TB didn't have. I don't care for TB as much as SM but I had to much e-mail to have those issues on my work files. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
what is realistic for the next release?
I'm sticking with 2.49.5 right now. I don't really want to move to the newer builds until they are more official I don't think. That said there is an increasing number of websites that no longer work in SM with any UI string that work in FireFox. I wonder how many of them will be fixed in a newer SM but not sure how much longer I can wait. So what is realistic? Will we have a 2.5x.y build some time in the next 6 months or what is realistic? And if I do want to try something built on a newer engine what version of SM is the safest yet sufficiently newer for Windowz 7? And where should I get it from? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Go Fund me
On 10/1/2019 9:47 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Hawker wrote: On 9/30/2019 9:06 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 9/30/19 8:46 PM, Hawker wrote: A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly. The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA strings and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no luck. It displays properly in FireFox. Are others seeing this? Any fix or just add this to the, sigh, increasing list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey? Doesn't work with SeaMonkey in safe mode? Doesn't work with a test profile? Not sure how to do "safe mode" but I made a new profile and same problem Here is a random example. Is the text below the picture or in side it? https://www.gofundme.com/f/deputy-sandeep-singh-dhaliwal-scholarship-fund In my case the text overlays the pictures. Interesting. So Paul and Don see what I see but Hartmut sees it correctly. I wonder what the difference is and why Hartmut is different. Hartmut are you using SM 2.53 or just spoofing that UI? Maye broken in 2.49 but not 2.53? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Go Fund me
On 9/30/2019 9:06 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 9/30/19 8:46 PM, Hawker wrote: A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly. The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA strings and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no luck. It displays properly in FireFox. Are others seeing this? Any fix or just add this to the, sigh, increasing list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey? Doesn't work with SeaMonkey in safe mode? Doesn't work with a test profile? Not sure how to do "safe mode" but I made a new profile and same problem Here is a random example. Is the text below the picture or in side it? https://www.gofundme.com/f/deputy-sandeep-singh-dhaliwal-scholarship-fund ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Go Fund me
A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly. The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA strings and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no luck. It displays properly in FireFox. Are others seeing this? Any fix or just add this to the, sigh, increasing list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: github troubles
Yes I can change the UI and get it to work better, but as the supported browsers alludes to not all features will work and I think this is truly a SM is too old and needs a newer version. On 8/26/2019 2:17 PM, Ronnie wrote: Hawker wrote: It's all about the user agent string in which is being presented... The default seamonkey one works but if you're using an override useragent sting it can cause problems if it's not what github is 'looking for' I found the following useragent string works for me on both github & google Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/55.0 One final note is if you 'advertise lighnting' as installed it can cause problems on mulitple sites with not being able to click on things and have them work... I have both advertise firefox compatibility and lightning unchecked with a useragent override using the above mentioned string. I wasted the better part of an afternoon trying to get Github to fully work in SM. I finally gave up and added it to the increasing list of sites that no longer work correctly in SM. I'm using Firefox for those sites. On 8/26/2019 12:24 AM, Ronnie wrote: While github works with seamonkey for the most part I did discover a problem that I was wonder if anyone figured out a work around for... I posted an 'issue' with a particular app on github and everything worked/posted as was expected.. however when I went to edit my question I couldn't... the buttons to do so simply didn't work... strangely pale moon worked fine... Has anyone encountered this problem recently? If so, is there anything that resolves it using seamonkey? thanks ronnie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: github troubles
I wasted the better part of an afternoon trying to get Github to fully work in SM. I finally gave up and added it to the increasing list of sites that no longer work correctly in SM. I'm using Firefox for those sites. On 8/26/2019 12:24 AM, Ronnie wrote: While github works with seamonkey for the most part I did discover a problem that I was wonder if anyone figured out a work around for... I posted an 'issue' with a particular app on github and everything worked/posted as was expected.. however when I went to edit my question I couldn't... the buttons to do so simply didn't work... strangely pale moon worked fine... Has anyone encountered this problem recently? If so, is there anything that resolves it using seamonkey? thanks ronnie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM and Github
I just today needed to create a Github account for work. I got the usual unsuported browser message I ignore but no matter what I spoofed I could not get Github to work with SM. Is "FF52" just way to old for github? Anyone using Github with SM? How can I make it work? Currently using FF for it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Images not expanding
On 7/31/2019 4:38 PM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: On 31/07/19 16:05, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: ... On 7/31/2019 6:31 AM, Hawker wrote: Can anyone tell me if this is a dated SM issue or if I need to change a setting? Recently on Home Depot's website when I click on images to expand they do not open. It works fine on FireFox. Spoofing UA did not help. Does it work for others? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882 ...> I have the same behavior as the OP, with that box unchecked. When I mouse over the image, the cursor changes to a hand, as if it were a link, but right-clicking does not offer the usual link options (open in new tab, etc.). Instead, I get image options (view image, etc.). Javascript is enabled in the browser. The site developers have wrapped the content in swathes of JavaScript to minimise the chance of correct operation across browsers. Presumably the same motivation explains the duplicate element IDs and unbalanced double-quotes in the source. Forgivingly, SeaMonkey manages to render this garbage. Clicking a product image fails because jQuery receives a null event, a big success for the developers. However right-click>View Image works fine, the developers having surprisingly forgotten to try to disable the right-click menu. To see the thumbnail images in full size, change the final part of the image URL "...-jpg" to "...-64_1000.jpg". I have severe doubts that actually buying anything will work, though, but presumably once you've identified your desired product you'll use eBay or Amazon to buy it, another big win for the Home Depot guys. /df Hmm. that is all well and good but the fact of the matter is that it works fine in FireFox so why not SM? It does work to click and order, I have done so quite a bit. They simply have much I want that Amazon does not and bonus I can pick it up at the local HD store. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Images not expanding
On 7/31/2019 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 7/31/2019 6:31 AM, Hawker wrote: Can anyone tell me if this is a dated SM issue or if I need to change a setting? Recently on Home Depot's website when I click on images to expand they do not open. It works fine on FireFox. Spoofing UA did not help. Does it work for others? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Appearance > Content]. The checkbox for "Zoom only text instead of full pages" should NOT be checked. It wasn't. The problem appears to be elsewhere. It used to work until recently. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Images not expanding
Can anyone tell me if this is a dated SM issue or if I need to change a setting? Recently on Home Depot's website when I click on images to expand they do not open. It works fine on FireFox. Spoofing UA did not help. Does it work for others? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Video issue - solved
On 3/30/2019 10:02 AM, Hawker wrote: Any idea why any of the videos from here play with audio but no video? http://www.playbill.com/videos It doesn't work in Firefox either but it does work in IE and Opera. Turns out it was an Add Block problem. Disabling Add block fixed. Interesting that I got audio and no video with Add Block, but that was the problem. David's post was the clue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't View Instagram
On 3/30/2019 8:47 AM, Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: When trying to view Instagram, all I get is a white page with a little gray square in the middle. It works fine with IE. I went to Cookie Manager and deleted all info there. Any way to fix this? I've now checked all of my PC's, 3 Win7 and 2 Win10. They all act the same - can't open Instagram. IE works fine on all of them. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I'm noticing some pages on IG don't work, but some do. videos don't work. I wonder if it is related to my post below. The difference is that IG works on Firefox just fine, but the problem I list below doesn't work on either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Video issue
Any idea why any of the videos from here play with audio but no video? http://www.playbill.com/videos It doesn't work in Firefox either but it does work in IE and Opera. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
re enable add ons - recover from SM reset
So my SM installation seems to have reset itself in some way I do not get. It changed the theme and disabled all add ons somehow. It may have done other things I have yet to discover. I fixed most of that but User Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1 says it is not compatible and won't let me turn it back on. It was working just fine before. Is there any way to force it to turn back on? Any idea what happened to my SM installation and what else may have been changed? PWs, Bookmarks and history all seem to be fine as were my cookie settings. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
new sniffing issue?
So this website https://neodenusa.com/ Returns 403: Forbidden nginx in SM. When I spoof a FF UA then it works fine. WTF is going on here? Forbidden? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "All humors aside… ;("
So could someone explain to us non app programmers a bit here? What I gather from this is there is some mammoth back end automatic build system that takes the code base and spits out the various flavors (does this mean both language and OS builds?) of the releasable code. The system has needed to change over the years for various reasons and maintaining this system takes a huge effort that just isn't manageable with the small team and this is holding up releases both in terms of actually building the code base but also putting resources into maintaining this system that could be put into the actual code base improvements. So far do I have this correct? What I don't get is, as I understanding it nightly builds are still happening and people are "hand" compiling various code bases into "pseudo" released code. So my question is are the devs making this too hard on themselves? If maintaining some sort of automated build environment is unmanageable yet people are able to compile the code and get it to people in a way that works then might, this time, a more brute force approach where the code is hand compiled make more sense until/unless there are more volunteers? As a long time Seamonkey user it is hard to not see the handwriting on the wall. More and more websites are not working correctly (even with spoofing) and it is painfully slow. If FF didn't suck so much when i keep trying (or other browsers didn't have show stopping issues for me) it I would be long gone, but the number of websites that no longer work or work well is becoming a huge issue and may force my hands if SM can't get up to semi parity in website rendering with other browsers. So in the end the question is, can the limited SM team do anything to change to be more efficient given the limited resources they have and are they being hindered by trying to do it the way that Mozilla foundation does it when for this small project there are better ways? On 2/17/2019 10:10 PM, Ant wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/ A long read. :( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
when do you think we will see the next official SM release?
Been trying to slog though all the info about SM and it's current issues and in the end I'm mostly just confused. Given that, and the increasing issues I am having with a SM built on the FF52 code (and so kicking and screaming to FF and Opera when I have to) I'm wondering when we might realistically have a build based beyond just a 2.49.x? Is there any way to venture a reasonable guess? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password/Data Manager Export
On 12/31/2018 3:38 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 12/21/2018 5:56 AM, Hawker wrote: Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format (Text file, CSV file etc) ? Specifically I want to export all my password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them. This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option for security reasons. Google leads me to a possible extension called password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from. Have you successfully installed Password Exporter? If so, I will remove it from my Web site. Note that it might not work with any SeaMonkey version later than 2.49.4 because it is an .xpi extension, not a Webextension. Yes, installed and works great. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...
On 12/18/2018 8:13 PM, Ant wrote: https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/ Sigh. Handwriting on the wall. Like many SM users I go back to Netscape 2.x. SM feels like home. It is comfortable, works for me and has most of the features I want. FF has become a frustrating mess lacking many features I use in SM. Alas it seems obvious the end is near. SM is already having lots of compatibility issues and renders way slow compared to other browsers. Time for me to find the transition browser. After 23 years here that isn't emotionally or physically easy. No idea where to go. FF doesn't feel right and also seems slow, Chrome - I don't trust it. What branches, if any can I trust with my privacy? Opera? Is it a similar dying anomaly or even any good? There really isn't anything else stable, private (and no cloud), feature rich and fast is there? It is sad that so many people are willing to give up privacy for Google Chrome. I feel old and outdated. Get off my lawn. We can talk about all the theoretical ways to revive SM but the reality is it has a very small and shrinking user base, is mostly unknown, and does not have an adequate support staff to carry it forward. Without a better user base it will be hard to carry forward, and without an adequate engineering team it will be hard to improve the user base. Chicken and Egg and neither wins. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password/Data Manager Export
On 12/21/2018 11:21 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 12/21/2018 5:56 AM, Hawker wrote: Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format (Text file, CSV file etc) ? Specifically I want to export all my password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them. This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option for security reasons. Google leads me to a possible extension called password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from. Windows 7 SeaMonkey 2.49.4 I use the Password Exporter 1.3.4 extension from <http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com>. However, this requires conversion for compatibility with SeaMonkey. If you request here in this newsgroup thread, I can put my converted copy on my Web site for you to download. (I archive all software installers except for Windows and AVG updates.) NOTE: Password Exporter is NOT a Webextension and might not work with future versions of SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, or Firefox. David, Can you confirm that was you that e-mailed me the file? I didn't recognize the name and am a tad leery of opening things I am unsure of. If so I can post it if anyone else needs it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password/Data Manager Export
On 12/21/2018 11:21 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 12/21/2018 5:56 AM, Hawker wrote: Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format (Text file, CSV file etc) ? Specifically I want to export all my password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them. This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option for security reasons. Google leads me to a possible extension called password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from. Windows 7 SeaMonkey 2.49.4 I use the Password Exporter 1.3.4 extension from <http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com>. However, this requires conversion for compatibility with SeaMonkey. If you request here in this newsgroup thread, I can put my converted copy on my Web site for you to download. (I archive all software installers except for Windows and AVG updates.) NOTE: Password Exporter is NOT a Webextension and might not work with future versions of SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, or Firefox. If you can post it or e-mail to me that would be great. Look at my e-mail and you should be able to figure out the anti-spam part to remove. I went the link you posted but the download button comes to the same dead end I found with the link I also posted. Looks like Mozilla has removed all hosting of extensions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password/Data Manager Export
Is there any way to export from the Data manager to some other format (Text file, CSV file etc) ? Specifically I want to export all my password - site, user name, password (un-encrypted. I realize I can view one at a time in the Data manager but I want to export all of them. This is to make a back up list, not to transfer to a different browser/computer. Using a cloud sync service is not an acceptable option for security reasons. Google leads me to a possible extension called password_exporter-1.2.1-mod.xpi https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/reviews/ But I am unable to find a location to actually download it from. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Migrating FF profiles to Seamonkey
I know it is ancient, but it still seems to work. Mozbackup lets you select what you back up and what parts you restore. It has not be updated in years but I used it about a year ago to restore a profile and it seemed to still work just fine. http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ On 11/26/2018 8:03 PM, Nuno Silva wrote: Hello, Seamonkey Navigator has been my main web browser for more than a year now, but I still have a few user profiles left in Firefox. What would be the best way to move these profiles to Seamonkey? I would like to preserve as much of the original profiles as possible, including: - History - Bookmarks - Preferences - Installed extensions, if compatible (there are no webextensions) - passwords and cookies - userContent.css Could/should I just move the profile directories to $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey and add them to profiles.ini? (Is there some way I could then disable Mail only in these migrated profiles?) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adblock Plus for SM?
On 9/2/2018 11:51 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: >Do what you must but I would switch probably to Chromium then. Part of why I am still on Mozilla products is I don't trust Google/Chromium to not be harvesting my online activity to use to create a profile of me and sell that information. While I realize it is a mostly futile effort these days I do try to protect my privacy as best as realistic. Google doesn't seem safe. I am told there is a built without all the google data mining and privacy invasion stuff but after an hour of searching I couldn't find a Windows executable version. Any ideas where to get working builds without the google privacy invasion components? uBlock is really the better product nowadays. > (which I only use for the increasing number of websites that won't work in SM) I don't see many breakages which are real. Most can be fixed with setting the user agent. With most web sites still supporting IE 8 only a few really break. Most are google ones and they do it in for Fx too. > I wonder how soon we will realistically see a Seamonky build with the Firefox 60 ESR or newer code. I really don't want to move away from SM, but the lack Maybe 6 months to a year. Firefox has problems of its own and becomes a permanent construction camp so anything after 2.57 is off for now. Do what you must but I would switch probably to Chromium then. The Fx ui degrades with every release now so you can just use the original which imho already looks cleaner than Fx. Locally compiled 2.53 and 2.49.5 both work a champ for me so I don't have any need to switch now. Newer web features will probably become a problem in a year or two but seriously I don't want things like service workers and wasm anyway. I really doubt this will do security any good. FRG Hawker wrote: Thank you both for the clear explanation. Sounds like I'm stuck where I am. A few of my ABP filters are now saying "this filter subscriptions requires a newer ABP version" This is going to be a security risk soon I assume as I fund ABP does a better job keeping add based virus out than my AV products. Alas your comment "Most are a joke compared to their former xul based ones." Is sadly true. Some of the extensions I see in my Firefox install (which I only use for the increasing number of websites that won't work in SM) have way more limited UIs than the XUL version. I'm hoping with time they can reach the functionality of the old versions. Is there something about how they work that means they never will? And a few of my favorite extensions have not been ported. I wonder how soon we will realistically see a Seamonky build with the Firefox 60 ESR or newer code. I really don't want to move away from SM, but the lack of developers to keep the code current is putting the handwriting clearly on the wall for SM's demise. On 8/30/2018 12:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Thunderbird 60 and SeaMonkey 2.57 are/will not be based on 52 code but on Firefox 60 ESR code. Web extensions were never developed with a program like Thunderbird in mind. TB now adds web extensions apis and support but I doubt they will be able to make any of the current ad or script blockers work in the near time. If not for developer shortage this would be actually easier for SeaMonkey which already has a browser in place. But the whole Firefox implementation is a mess with parts in the browser frontend and parts in the Gecko backend. And for quantum architectural changes. Most was already in 56 and starting with 57 it was just lets rip this and this and that and this out. It needs to be supported but besides from a few key extensions like uBlock and NoScript you won't miss much with web extensions. Most are a joke compared to their former xul based ones. FRG NFN Smith wrote: Hawker wrote: I have Adblock Plus 2.9.1 installed on Seamonkey. My subscriptions are starting to say I need a newer version to work. I can't seem find a SM compatible version of Adblock to download. Is 2.9.1 (over 1 year old) the last version to work? Where can I find newer versions? I believe that 2.9.1 is the most recent version that will run in Seamonkey, and I get the impression that that one isn't going to get any more updates. I know that I've also been running 2.9.1 in Thunderbird, and it works fine in TB 52.x, but on the installation I have that I upgraded to Thunderbird 60, Thunderbird disables it. In Thunderbird, I believe that v60 is still 52.x code, but where essential updates are being backported from Firefox ESR 60. Thus, Thunderbird still supports XUL extensions, but for V60, extensions must be tweaked to allow for explicit support of V60. Realistically, until both Seamonkey and Thunderbird can finish the move to WebExtensions, users of both are mostly going to limited to extensions whose status is essentially frozen in time. There may be a some develope
Re: Adblock Plus for SM?
Thank you both for the clear explanation. Sounds like I'm stuck where I am. A few of my ABP filters are now saying "this filter subscriptions requires a newer ABP version" This is going to be a security risk soon I assume as I fund ABP does a better job keeping add based virus out than my AV products. Alas your comment "Most are a joke compared to their former xul based ones." Is sadly true. Some of the extensions I see in my Firefox install (which I only use for the increasing number of websites that won't work in SM) have way more limited UIs than the XUL version. I'm hoping with time they can reach the functionality of the old versions. Is there something about how they work that means they never will? And a few of my favorite extensions have not been ported. I wonder how soon we will realistically see a Seamonky build with the Firefox 60 ESR or newer code. I really don't want to move away from SM, but the lack of developers to keep the code current is putting the handwriting clearly on the wall for SM's demise. On 8/30/2018 12:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Thunderbird 60 and SeaMonkey 2.57 are/will not be based on 52 code but on Firefox 60 ESR code. Web extensions were never developed with a program like Thunderbird in mind. TB now adds web extensions apis and support but I doubt they will be able to make any of the current ad or script blockers work in the near time. If not for developer shortage this would be actually easier for SeaMonkey which already has a browser in place. But the whole Firefox implementation is a mess with parts in the browser frontend and parts in the Gecko backend. And for quantum architectural changes. Most was already in 56 and starting with 57 it was just lets rip this and this and that and this out. It needs to be supported but besides from a few key extensions like uBlock and NoScript you won't miss much with web extensions. Most are a joke compared to their former xul based ones. FRG NFN Smith wrote: Hawker wrote: I have Adblock Plus 2.9.1 installed on Seamonkey. My subscriptions are starting to say I need a newer version to work. I can't seem find a SM compatible version of Adblock to download. Is 2.9.1 (over 1 year old) the last version to work? Where can I find newer versions? I believe that 2.9.1 is the most recent version that will run in Seamonkey, and I get the impression that that one isn't going to get any more updates. I know that I've also been running 2.9.1 in Thunderbird, and it works fine in TB 52.x, but on the installation I have that I upgraded to Thunderbird 60, Thunderbird disables it. In Thunderbird, I believe that v60 is still 52.x code, but where essential updates are being backported from Firefox ESR 60. Thus, Thunderbird still supports XUL extensions, but for V60, extensions must be tweaked to allow for explicit support of V60. Realistically, until both Seamonkey and Thunderbird can finish the move to WebExtensions, users of both are mostly going to limited to extensions whose status is essentially frozen in time. There may be a some developers who do stuff for Seamonkey or Thunderbird explicitly that are continuing to update XUL extensions, but for extensions that are primarily Firefox extensions, I think that most of the developers are focusing only on what can be done in WebExtensions. They won't pull the older XUL extensions (especially now that those are being hosted at thunderbird.net, rather than addons.mozilla.org, but don't plan on any additional updates. Adblock Plus is certainly not the only one, but it's a good example. Unfortunately, both Seamonkey and Thunderbird are still some way away from transition to WebExtensions, and other architectural changes that Firefox introduced with Quantum. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Adblock Plus for SM?
I have Adblock Plus 2.9.1 installed on Seamonkey. My subscriptions are starting to say I need a newer version to work. I can't seem find a SM compatible version of Adblock to download. Is 2.9.1 (over 1 year old) the last version to work? Where can I find newer versions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Change User Agent for one domain only
On 3/7/2018 1:36 PM, Steve Dunn wrote:
On 2018-03-07 12:13, Hawker wrote:
I am currently using User Agent Switcher.
I've never used that extension so I can't help you with it. But it's
not the only way to fiddle with the user agent string.
What I mostly want to do is have all Google domain use default to the
current FireFox UA as much of Google does not work properly with
Seamonkey's UA but works fine when I switch it. I can't see how to
lock that in with User Agent Switcher. I want everything else to
default to Seamonkey.
In about:config, you can create per-domain/site custom user agents.
Create a string named general.useragent.override.{domain} and set its
value to the string you want. For instance, if you want example.com to
think your user agent is "Bogus/1.0 Fake/20180307" you'd create:
general.useragent.override.example.com = "Bogus/1.0 Fake/20180307"
Give it a shot and see if it helps. It won't do anything for your
second question since that involves easily switching user agents, but it
might at least work for the first question.
-Steve
Thank you - this sounds like my best solution so far. Will try Monday.
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Re: Change User Agent for one domain only
On 3/7/2018 1:36 PM, Steve Dunn wrote:
On 2018-03-07 12:13, Hawker wrote:
I am currently using User Agent Switcher.
I've never used that extension so I can't help you with it. But it's
not the only way to fiddle with the user agent string.
What I mostly want to do is have all Google domain use default to the
current FireFox UA as much of Google does not work properly with
Seamonkey's UA but works fine when I switch it. I can't see how to
lock that in with User Agent Switcher. I want everything else to
default to Seamonkey.
In about:config, you can create per-domain/site custom user agents.
Create a string named general.useragent.override.{domain} and set its
value to the string you want. For instance, if you want example.com to
think your user agent is "Bogus/1.0 Fake/20180307" you'd create:
general.useragent.override.example.com = "Bogus/1.0 Fake/20180307"
Give it a shot and see if it helps. It won't do anything for your
second question since that involves easily switching user agents, but it
might at least work for the first question.
-Steve
Thank you - this sounds like my best solution so far. Will try Monday.
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Change User Agent for one domain only
Could use some advise on User Agent switching. I am currently using User Agent Switcher. I find using it, and updating the UAs in it anything less than intuitive. What I mostly want to do is have all Google domain use default to the current FireFox UA as much of Google does not work properly with Seamonkey's UA but works fine when I switch it. I can't see how to lock that in with User Agent Switcher. I want everything else to default to Seamonkey. The other thing that would be nice is to easily toggle between two different user agents. The one for SM and the FireFox one for the same Geko revision as easily as I do with AutoPlay. Is there a way to do either of these? Am I just an idiot on using User Agent Switcher? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AdBlockPlus and SM 2.49.1
I'm pretty sure your 2.8.x will auto update to 2.9.1. if you turn auto updates on in the extension manager. I think auto update is the default. I installed ABP eons ago and never physically updated it, yet my extension manger says I have 2.9.1 in it. On 12/4/2017 4:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Hello, When I upgraded SM from 2.40 to 2.46 I found AdBlockPlus extension here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/adblock-plus/ And the file was: adblock_plus-2.8.2-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi so far so good. Now I just intalled SM 2.49.1 and the page: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/adblock-plus/ shows me: "Only with FireFox" (and if I click on it, he want to install FireFox ..GRRR) So I installed the AdBlockPlus 2.8.2 of the 2.46 version. How can I install the most recent version of AdBlockPluss compatible with SM ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password
Thank you thank you thank you! Deleting permissions.sqlite fixed my password issue! Your other recommendation fixed my data manager issue. I'm not sure what all I lost so I am a tad concerned that I may have lost an important setting. I also wish I knew how you got that file form the error. So very thankful for your help here! On 11/15/2017 12:44 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:22 AM > Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED: Component returned failure code: > 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [mozIStorageStatement.finalize] > Source File: resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js > Line: 422 Your permissions.sqlite file seems to be corrupt. It now holds the permissions for logins too since 2.48 so this would explain why you are unable to autologon. But any problems should already have surfaced in 2.48. I would make a backup of the profile and just remove this one file and see if it works. You will loose all site specific settings for cookies, image and other permissions but they can usually be recreated. The other errors are normal/common during startup. Ok, they should not happen but will eventually be fixed and are harmless for now. If removing the file does not work you can start into safe mode with Help -> Restart with Add-Ons Disabled. FRG Hawker wrote: Again thank you for your time. Removing webappsstore.sqlite seems to have fixed the password manager lock up issue. No idea what I lost in so doing. Can you help me debug the rest of this? When first launching SM I get 4 errors: They are Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:22 AM Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED: Component returned failure code: 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [mozIStorageStatement.finalize] Source File: resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js Line: 422 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:23 AM Error: DEPRECATION WARNING: Search service falling back to synchronous initialization. This is generally the consequence of an add-on using a deprecated search service API. You may find more details about this deprecation at: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIBrowserSearchService#async_warning resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 2702 SRCH_SVC__ensureInitialized resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 4185 get currentEngine resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 4178 get defaultEngine chrome://navigator/content/urlbarBindings.xml 487 updateEngines chrome://navigator/content/urlbarBindings.xml 357 autocomplete-result-popup_XBL_Constructor chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 276 set_currentSet chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 181 _init chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 144 toolbar_XBL_Constructor/< Source File: resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm Line: 79 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:23 AM Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm Line: 160 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:24 AM Error: TypeError: menu is null Source File: resource://gre/modules/commonjs/toolkit/loader.js -> resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js Line: 341 When I open Facebook I get Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:48 AM Error: : Source File: https://staticxx.facebook.com/common/referer_frame.php Line: 1 I later get some errors related to Image Zoom. Maybe this old plug in is causing issues? I use it constantly - would hate to loose it. Is there a way to boot with no extensions enabled? On 11/15/2017 10:20 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: I am unable to reproduce this one too. This is likely backend storage corruption caused by who knows what. Check https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1305624 for the workaround. You can delete the webappsstore.* files in your profile and it usually works again. Open the Error Console under Tools->Web Development->Error Console after SeaMonkey has started and filter for errors. Then open the webpage where the passwords are not working. Look for errors. If you don't see any just filter for warnings or remove all filters and see if anything catches your eye. FRG Hawker wrote: Especially the password manager lock up on opening bug that was introduced in 2.48 or 2.46 (I forget which) has not been fixed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password
Again thank you for your time. Removing webappsstore.sqlite seems to have fixed the password manager lock up issue. No idea what I lost in so doing. Can you help me debug the rest of this? When first launching SM I get 4 errors: They are Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:22 AM Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED: Component returned failure code: 0x8052000b (NS_ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTED) [mozIStorageStatement.finalize] Source File: resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js Line: 422 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:23 AM Error: DEPRECATION WARNING: Search service falling back to synchronous initialization. This is generally the consequence of an add-on using a deprecated search service API. You may find more details about this deprecation at: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIBrowserSearchService#async_warning resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 2702 SRCH_SVC__ensureInitialized resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 4185 get currentEngine resource://gre/components/nsSearchService.js 4178 get defaultEngine chrome://navigator/content/urlbarBindings.xml 487 updateEngines chrome://navigator/content/urlbarBindings.xml 357 autocomplete-result-popup_XBL_Constructor chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 276 set_currentSet chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 181 _init chrome://global/content/bindings/toolbar.xml 144 toolbar_XBL_Constructor/< Source File: resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm Line: 79 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:23 AM Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm Line: 160 Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:24 AM Error: TypeError: menu is null Source File: resource://gre/modules/commonjs/toolkit/loader.js -> resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js Line: 341 When I open Facebook I get Timestamp: 11/15/2017 11:58:48 AM Error: : Source File: https://staticxx.facebook.com/common/referer_frame.php Line: 1 I later get some errors related to Image Zoom. Maybe this old plug in is causing issues? I use it constantly - would hate to loose it. Is there a way to boot with no extensions enabled? On 11/15/2017 10:20 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: I am unable to reproduce this one too. This is likely backend storage corruption caused by who knows what. Check https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1305624 for the workaround. You can delete the webappsstore.* files in your profile and it usually works again. Open the Error Console under Tools->Web Development->Error Console after SeaMonkey has started and filter for errors. Then open the webpage where the passwords are not working. Look for errors. If you don't see any just filter for warnings or remove all filters and see if anything catches your eye. FRG Hawker wrote: Especially the password manager lock up on opening bug that was introduced in 2.48 or 2.46 (I forget which) has not been fixed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password
Can you tell me how to do that? How do I check the error console on start up? And no I just went with official releases so from 2.48 to 2.49.1 This is really annoying - thinking I might have to revert back to 2.48. Especially the password manager lock up on opening bug that was introduced in 2.48 or 2.46 (I forget which) has not been fixed. On 11/14/2017 11:12 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Had recently seen this with a friends Firefox. Was caused by light profile corruption and an incompatible add-on. Please check the Error console if you see any errors during startup or when opening the webpage where the passwords are not working. Did you use a beta or alpha version higher than 2.49 before with your current profile? FRG Hawker wrote: hmm. I wonder what else might need to be changed? That fix didn't help me. Autocomplete of passwords is not working on any site I log into, Facebook, Google, AirB, my bank, other social networks, shopping places, etc. It is a PITA for sure. Might have something to do with my clearing cookies on close? It all worked fine in 2.48 On 11/14/2017 8:05 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 (2.49). Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure sites. Was not fun to play catchup. There might still linger other problems. FRG cmcadams wrote: Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily enough filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. And there were never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same about:config settings. I'll confess I don't get it. Craig Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1. Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes. But I think FB should be https or? FRG David E. Ross wrote: On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote: As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does not do it the next time. On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password. How can I put it back like it was? Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 I have not seen this problem with saved logins. There are some sites, however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved passwords. That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro
David - are others having this issue as well? Sounds like for the OP and myself (I am on Win7 not Win10) The built in password manager broke on the 2.49 update. I can go to the password manager and they are all still there, but the auto complete is broken. Does the OP also find the passwords are still in the manage stored passwords interface just not auto completing? On 11/11/2017 12:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my passwords. Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those nuisance logins that I entrust to it. As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and certain other critical Web sites. As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data. So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), cracking it won't help without the other part. There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password
hmm. I wonder what else might need to be changed? That fix didn't help me. Autocomplete of passwords is not working on any site I log into, Facebook, Google, AirB, my bank, other social networks, shopping places, etc. It is a PITA for sure. Might have something to do with my clearing cookies on close? It all worked fine in 2.48 On 11/14/2017 8:05 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: autocomplete was refactored in Gecko 51 (2.48) and then again in 52 (2.49). Including changing some defaults when it comes to non-secure sites. Was not fun to play catchup. There might still linger other problems. FRG cmcadams wrote: Bingo, that fixed my modem screens login problem. But...SM was happily enough filling most forms even with signon.autofillForms.http set to false. And there were never problems with 1.48 with the (presumed) same about:config settings. I'll confess I don't get it. Craig Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Not sure if this already applies to 2.49.1. Set signon.autofillForms.http to true and see what goes. But I think FB should be https or? FRG David E. Ross wrote: On 11/13/2017 4:32 PM, Hawker wrote: As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does not do it the next time. On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password. How can I put it back like it was? Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 I have not seen this problem with saved logins. There are some sites, however, that construct their login forms in a manner that defeats the saving of passwords and even defeats the use of existing saved passwords. That is a problem with the site and not with SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.49.1 no longer auto completes user name or password
As the subject says, I just installed 2.49.1. In Facebook it still auto completes the user name but not password. After entering it still does not do it the next time. On some other sites it neither auto enters the user name or password. How can I put it back like it was? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I update?
It looks like my info was correct. This release note says install 2.0 first then go to 2.48 https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.48/ On 10/2/2017 1:38 PM, Hawker wrote: There needed to be a couple of steps before but I forget which versions. I know you need at least one interm install, I think it is 2.0. Unless you get a more sure answer my advise would be 1) Download and install MozzBack up. Back up with it first so you can go back to before an issue if one shows up. 2) Download Seamonkey 2.0 and update to that. 3) download the latest version and update to that. The other thing that may work is back up with Mozbackup then install the latest version and use Mozbackup to install your history and settings into there. On 10/2/2017 11:13 AM, Judith Hudgens wrote: I currently am using Seamonkey version 1.1.18 Can I update to the current version of Seamonkey without losing settings and saved messages? Judie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I update?
There needed to be a couple of steps before but I forget which versions. I know you need at least one interm install, I think it is 2.0. Unless you get a more sure answer my advise would be 1) Download and install MozzBack up. Back up with it first so you can go back to before an issue if one shows up. 2) Download Seamonkey 2.0 and update to that. 3) download the latest version and update to that. The other thing that may work is back up with Mozbackup then install the latest version and use Mozbackup to install your history and settings into there. On 10/2/2017 11:13 AM, Judith Hudgens wrote: I currently am using Seamonkey version 1.1.18 Can I update to the current version of Seamonkey without losing settings and saved messages? Judie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Memory Leak? Sluggish SM.
On 9/17/2017 9:53 AM, Daniel wrote: On 17/09/2017 11:31 PM, Hawker wrote: SM 2.48 (but had same issue 2.46) Win 7 64. I notice a fresh open of SM takes about 220MB. After using it a few hours it eventually gets up to just under 3GB with light use (a few tabs open, not much) and get very unresponsive and sluggish. If I close all tabs to just a blank page memory goes down to around 2.5GB but never below. If I close and re-open SM or force close and re-open letting SM re-open all tabs as was all is good again. I'm assuming this is some sort of memory leak. Any ideas? Are others having this issue? I am using a few basic add ons, but nothing really strange or fancy I'm thinking this memory leak problem is widespread and has been about since the Netscape Suite days! Don't think yourself special, Hawker. ;-P While I mostly agree, it seems it has just been the last two versions where I have had major issues with it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Memory Leak? Sluggish SM.
On 9/17/2017 9:50 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Do you use a Script and Ad blocker. If not try it with one. Yes I use Add Block Plus but not no script. Usually caused by excessive javascript on web pages. Nothing we can do other than wait for improvements in the backend. I am usually at 500 MB after a few hours in a 2.49.1 x64 under 7. If you use mail it goes higher. FRG Hawker wrote: SM 2.48 (but had same issue 2.46) Win 7 64. I notice a fresh open of SM takes about 220MB. After using it a few hours it eventually gets up to just under 3GB with light use (a few tabs open, not much) and get very unresponsive and sluggish. If I close all tabs to just a blank page memory goes down to around 2.5GB but never below. If I close and re-open SM or force close and re-open letting SM re-open all tabs as was all is good again. I'm assuming this is some sort of memory leak. Any ideas? Are others having this issue? I am using a few basic add ons, but nothing really strange or fancy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Memory Leak? Sluggish SM.
On 9/17/2017 9:50 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Do you use a Script and Ad blocker. If not try it with one. Yes I use Add Block Plus but not no script. Usually caused by excessive javascript on web pages. Nothing we can do other than wait for improvements in the backend. I am usually at 500 MB after a few hours in a 2.49.1 x64 under 7. If you use mail it goes higher. FRG Hawker wrote: SM 2.48 (but had same issue 2.46) Win 7 64. I notice a fresh open of SM takes about 220MB. After using it a few hours it eventually gets up to just under 3GB with light use (a few tabs open, not much) and get very unresponsive and sluggish. If I close all tabs to just a blank page memory goes down to around 2.5GB but never below. If I close and re-open SM or force close and re-open letting SM re-open all tabs as was all is good again. I'm assuming this is some sort of memory leak. Any ideas? Are others having this issue? I am using a few basic add ons, but nothing really strange or fancy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Memory Leak? Sluggish SM.
SM 2.48 (but had same issue 2.46) Win 7 64. I notice a fresh open of SM takes about 220MB. After using it a few hours it eventually gets up to just under 3GB with light use (a few tabs open, not much) and get very unresponsive and sluggish. If I close all tabs to just a blank page memory goes down to around 2.5GB but never below. If I close and re-open SM or force close and re-open letting SM re-open all tabs as was all is good again. I'm assuming this is some sort of memory leak. Any ideas? Are others having this issue? I am using a few basic add ons, but nothing really strange or fancy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Tabs load different if Tab has focus vs background
For a while I have noticed that many pages, if opened in a new tap, load differently if the tab is open/viewed/has focus than if the tab is loaded in the background. For those pages if I hit reload once the tab has focus the page loads correctly. The most annoying version of this is on FaceCrack. If I open notifications on a new tab from a large thread and go to that tab then the thread opens to the point of notification. If it loads in the background it loads to the top of the thread only and not the notification point. Hitting refresh fixes it so it loads where it should. Do others experience this? Is there a way to get it to fully load without having to refresh the page? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?
On 8/24/2017 11:31 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/24/2017 7:35 AM, Hawker wrote: On 8/17/2017 1:49 PM, EE wrote: [snipped] Is there a button in the customize window? There should be one that you can place on a toolbar and click it to toggle autoplay. Customize window? I can't find that? Button, no. How do I get there? Is this a theme issue? Google tells me there should be something in the view pull down but I don't see it. I'm using SM Modern Theme. To get the Customize Toolbar window, place your cursor over an unused portion of either your menu bar or tool bar, right-click, and select Customize. I just did that; and there is no Autoplay or similar button, even with the Toolbar Buttons extension installed. At the Toolbar Buttons Web site, the list of additional button at <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/> has a Movies button that can be downloaded and then moved onto your tool bar or menu bar. The brief description of Movies is "Stop movies from loading". NOTE WELL: The use of extensions to obtain capabilities will end with the implementation of Webextensions. Thanx that worked. The button I was looking for was there. Interesting that installing the extensions didn't put it there. All the other extensions I have used made their own button. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?
On 8/24/2017 11:31 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/24/2017 7:35 AM, Hawker wrote: On 8/17/2017 1:49 PM, EE wrote: [snipped] Is there a button in the customize window? There should be one that you can place on a toolbar and click it to toggle autoplay. Customize window? I can't find that? Button, no. How do I get there? Is this a theme issue? Google tells me there should be something in the view pull down but I don't see it. I'm using SM Modern Theme. To get the Customize Toolbar window, place your cursor over an unused portion of either your menu bar or tool bar, right-click, and select Customize. I just did that; and there is no Autoplay or similar button, even with the Toolbar Buttons extension installed. At the Toolbar Buttons Web site, the list of additional button at <https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/toolbar_button_maker/en-US/suite/> has a Movies button that can be downloaded and then moved onto your tool bar or menu bar. The brief description of Movies is "Stop movies from loading". NOTE WELL: The use of extensions to obtain capabilities will end with the implementation of Webextensions. Thanx that worked. The button I was looking for was there. Interesting that installing the extensions didn't put it there. All the other extensions I have used made their own button. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?
On 8/17/2017 1:49 PM, EE wrote: Hawker wrote: On 8/16/2017 1:51 PM, EE wrote: Desiree wrote: I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff with 2.48. I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player and Flash Player. I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like I had it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I have full control over and is a better player. Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey. I tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay garbage. I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via SeaMonkey/get addons and search for such an extension that what is shown me is stuff for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser! Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48? If not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback? I have HTML5 play disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey. I have an extension that forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 player there. But that extension does not work on other websites. In about:config, I set media.autoplay.enabled to false. That stops autoplay. With a few sites, I found that to get HTML5 to play at all, that setting had to be true. I got an extension that will toggle media autoplay. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/autoplay-toggle-nonrestartless/ I tried this extension. I must be an idiot because I see no tool bar or place in the tools section for it once installed. How do I use this once installed? Is there a button in the customize window? There should be one that you can place on a toolbar and click it to toggle autoplay. Customize window? I can't find that? Button, no. How do I get there? Is this a theme issue? Google tells me there should be something in the view pull down but I don't see it. I'm using SM Modern Theme. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?
On 8/16/2017 1:51 PM, EE wrote: Desiree wrote: I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff with 2.48. I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player and Flash Player. I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like I had it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I have full control over and is a better player. Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey. I tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay garbage. I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via SeaMonkey/get addons and search for such an extension that what is shown me is stuff for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser! Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48? If not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback? I have HTML5 play disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey. I have an extension that forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 player there. But that extension does not work on other websites. In about:config, I set media.autoplay.enabled to false. That stops autoplay. With a few sites, I found that to get HTML5 to play at all, that setting had to be true. I got an extension that will toggle media autoplay. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/autoplay-toggle-nonrestartless/ I tried this extension. I must be an idiot because I see no tool bar or place in the tools section for it once installed. How do I use this once installed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Edit the user dictionary ?
There was my best answer. Thank you very much. Hawker On 8/16/2017 7:28 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2017-08-16 10:20 AM, Hawker wrote: Is there a way to edit the words added to the user dictionary? I know I can hover over a word, RMB and select remove from dictionary but it would be great to see the list of all words and remove anything I saw that was a mistake. I found directions for Thunderbird and Firefox for this but they didn't seem to translate to SM. This is for the browser side, I assume they share the same user dictionary? 1. Open a message compose window. 2. Click on the message body. 3. Click the "Spell" toolbar button. 4. Click [Edit]. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Edit the user dictionary ?
Is there a way to edit the words added to the user dictionary? I know I can hover over a word, RMB and select remove from dictionary but it would be great to see the list of all words and remove anything I saw that was a mistake. I found directions for Thunderbird and Firefox for this but they didn't seem to translate to SM. This is for the browser side, I assume they share the same user dictionary? Thanx Hawker ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM locks up from FB and other sites
SM 2.46 (wonder when there will be a new official release)with a very old profile going back to Netscape days. I'm starting to get a lot of SM lock ups. The biggest offender is when I am on Face Book. SM locks up then eventually says > A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Only clicking stop brings me back to functioning SM. The debugger doesn't help me much as I don't know what I am looking at. How do I debug this? What could be the cause? I am seeing so many recent issues I wonder if I need to start over with a blank profile. I just hate to loose years of tweaks to get SM the way I like it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cookie retention issue.
On 1/18/2017 7:18 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/18/2017 2:21 PM, Hawker wrote: Hey Folks, I am trying to get a few sites to allow cookies (for auto log on) such as Linked In and FaceBook and a few others but "Allow Cookies From this website" seems to work only until I close and reopen the browser. When I come back it returns to "use default cookie permissions" I have my default cookie behavior set to: "Accept for current session only" and "Allow Cookies for the originating website only". I tried making these more lenient with no luck. It seemed to all work correctly in 2.40 but not in 2.46, but I also cleared a lot of old cookies due to the data manager issues so I am not sure which caused the issue. Thanx Hawker 1. Set your home page to either about:blank or someother local (non-Internet) page. 2. Check all cookies to make sure that you have only the ones you want. Delete all the others. 3. Change your permissions to allow all cookies and to accept cookies normally. 4. Visit ONLY those Web sites from which you want cookies saved. 5. Terminate all instances of SeaMonkey. 6. Re-launch SeaMonkey. DO NOT VISIT ANY WEB SITE. 7. Repeat step #2. 8. On the menu bar, select [Help > Troubleshooting Information]. Under "Application Basics ", select the "Show Button" to the right of "Profile Folder". 9. Terminate all instances of SeaMonkey. 10. In the profile folder launched in step #8, find the file named cookies.sqlite. Get its profile and mark it read-only. You can then undo steps #1 anbd #3. Other Web sites might think they are setting cookies, but no cookies will be saved. On the other hand, the cookies that you did save in step #4 will remain saved. You should check your truly saved cookies about once a month to make sure none have expired. You might have to repeat these steps to remove expired cookies and capture their replacements. Step #2 and thus step #7 can be vastly facilitated if you install the PrefBar extension from <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/> and then install the Permissions Menu from <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu> into PrefBar. Thanx. I basically did this except rather than make the file read only I changed the settings on the 2nd launch back to my default. That didn't work. I didn't have to do that before 2.46 for this to work so I think there is something else wrong. The fact is I think that Allow Cookies for this website got broken in 2.46 as before that release all I had to do was click Allow Cookies for this web site and it worked fine. Now it does not seem to retain that setting when I come back as it did before. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cookie retention issue.
Hey Folks, I am trying to get a few sites to allow cookies (for auto log on) such as Linked In and FaceBook and a few others but "Allow Cookies From this website" seems to work only until I close and reopen the browser. When I come back it returns to "use default cookie permissions" I have my default cookie behavior set to: "Accept for current session only" and "Allow Cookies for the originating website only". I tried making these more lenient with no luck. It seemed to all work correctly in 2.40 but not in 2.46, but I also cleared a lot of old cookies due to the data manager issues so I am not sure which caused the issue. Thanx Hawker ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: huge lag in typing on Linked In Messages
On 12/16/2016 5:55 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Hawker wrote on 16-12-16 20:43: On 12/14/2016 3:43 PM, Ray_Net wrote: m...@hpathy.com wrote on 14-12-16 20:29: On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:15:36 AM UTC-4, Hawker wrote: Hello, When composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my typing and the characters showing up. It makes it very painful to compose messages. Any idea what causes this and what I can do about it? It is the only place I have seen this. I've got the same problem and no one seems to know what to do about it. It's hugely frustrating. "...composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my typing and the characters showing up. What I can do about it?" If the problem is only at Linkedin... have you contacted Linkedin ? Try to send them a mail:Tech Email hostmas...@linkedin.com I don't see it as a linked in issue. It works fine in Firefox but not SeaMonkey. I doubt LI supports SM anyway. My work around for now is I compose in another editor and copy/past into SM. A PITA but thankfully I don't do many linked in messages. If it's SM the problem, feel free to file a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ This problem seems to have gone away in 2.46. I don't know if the fix was SM or Linked in but it works now. Has it fixed it for others? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
On 12/27/2016 1:17 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote: W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze: Thank you. I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0 that an update has failed so disastrously. This really scares me, since I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey. To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried temporarily a new profile?). Actually that's not true. Read above - those issues are known. Regarding the data manager is that seems to be an issue for large old profiles and it just temporarily locks up then is fine. I fixed mine by going though and getting rid of a ton of old legacy entries going back to Netscape 3.x that I didn't need. Now it works fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 data manager not working
On 12/27/2016 10:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: The source might need some fine tuning. Maybe someone can check the row counts in the content-prefs and permissions DB when it does this. Data Manager does read all of them during start. In at least the 2.39 and 2.40 versions it might have crapped out because of errors early. FRG Hawker wrote: On 12/25/2016 9:08 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: Having a problem with data manager in 2.46 I tried to get into my password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40 works perfect. Any ideas? Same issue here. It locks up for a bit with a "not responding", but eventually recovers and then works fine. If you tell me how I would be happy to. I suspect however you are correct and it is simply a matter of how huge some of our data bases are making it take a long time to do its thing. I just cleaned out most, but not all of the cookies and it has gotten significantly faster recovery time. I wish there was a way to group select and mass delete items. Would love to clean out the permissions tabs and other tabs faster but I just have too much data there to do it the way it works now. The "other/older" cookie editor was much faster but only works for cookies. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 data manager not working
On 12/25/2016 9:08 PM, bern...@nospam.com wrote: Having a problem with data manager in 2.46 I tried to get into my password list and the window comes up and locks up. Went back to 2.40 works perfect. Any ideas? Same issue here. It locks up for a bit with a "not responding", but eventually recovers and then works fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46
On 12/22/2016 9:48 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: Hi All, (this is a personal note, so any flak should be directed to me only and no one else). While this is in the soon-to-be-released release notes, I felt it's prudent that I post this here. SeaMonkey 2.46 took it's not-so-sweet time in being released due to a plethora of issues (I am so damn glad at least others are more on the ball than I am -- namely frg whose more clear-headed than I am). That said, there is one major issue. SeaMonkey 2.40 will be the *last* version that supports non-CPU SSE enabled systems. 2.44 (or maybe 2.43) *was* supposed to be the version that gave users the 'your system will no longer be supported due to it not having a SSE-enabled CPU' message (or something like that). Unfortunately, 2.44 was skipped (as was 2.43 and 2.45) and so this will come to users as a surprise (especially those installing the full installer). Since I have no knowledge (we lost this metric awhile ago) of how many users we really have, I don't know how many are affected by this and I suspect we won't know unless someone speaks out here or anywhere. If you are affected, please use 2.40. My humblest apologies for suddenly springing this version on the user base without mentioning it anywhere beforehand (the bug that dealt with this change slipped off my radar). Edmund Can I get a quick education - I had to google what that even means. As I understand this that started in the first Pentium 4 computers correct? In other words this is only an issue for very old Pentium 3 and earlier computers correct? \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Search Tools broken
On 12/22/2016 2:12 PM, Richmond wrote: Hawker <haw...@no-smam-ashevillecommunity.org> writes: On 12/22/2016 8:00 AM, Richmond wrote: I raised a bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048 Thank you Richmond. I tried Ralph's work around GIF and mine doesn't do that for some reason. I see your bug got declined as "invalid". Sounds like the fix is to change the user agent. What is the best way to do that these days? I had a plug in years ago for that but haven't had to do it in years. I used "user agent switcher" as described by FRG in the bugzilla. Search for that in addons. But you have to then download and import a list of agents to get Firefox 49. Otherwise it's just i.e. and a few obscure ones. http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/ Thanx, that did it. Finding the user agent list to import was way less than intuitive. It didn't have FF49 in it but FF47 UA fixed the issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Search Tools broken
On 12/22/2016 8:00 AM, Richmond wrote: I raised a bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1325048 Thank you Richmond. I tried Ralph's work around GIF and mine doesn't do that for some reason. I see your bug got declined as "invalid". Sounds like the fix is to change the user agent. What is the best way to do that these days? I had a plug in years ago for that but haven't had to do it in years. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Search Tools broken
On 12/20/2016 7:48 AM, Richmond wrote: Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid> writes: Yesterday Google's search broke for using the "Settings" or "Tools" feature in SM 2.40 for me. It works in Firefox still. If I try to use Tools I get the "any time" and "all results" to the right of Tools not below as it should be. I can't click on the time to change it. I tried an new clean profile with the same results. Any idea? If I hold my mouse just below the "any time", there is a level where "any time" changes from grey to black. If I click at that level, I get the drop-down to change the time. I see something broken too. I am on 2.49a2. The "search tools" is on the left instead of the right as it is in firefox. Good to know it isn't just me. This is a pretty big issue for me. I tried Ralph Fox's idea with no luck. I get a space where the mouse pointer changes to a I beam but clicking does nothing. My current work around is to use "advanced search" which is an overkill PITA. Any idea what the issue is and what can be done to fix this? Seems to be a major bug. Disheartened to hear that 2.49 still has this issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: huge lag in typing on Linked In Messages
On 12/14/2016 3:43 PM, Ray_Net wrote: m...@hpathy.com wrote on 14-12-16 20:29: On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:15:36 AM UTC-4, Hawker wrote: Hello, When composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my typing and the characters showing up. It makes it very painful to compose messages. Any idea what causes this and what I can do about it? It is the only place I have seen this. I've got the same problem and no one seems to know what to do about it. It's hugely frustrating. "...composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my typing and the characters showing up. What I can do about it?" If the problem is only at Linkedin... have you contacted Linkedin ? Try to send them a mail:Tech Email hostmas...@linkedin.com I don't see it as a linked in issue. It works fine in Firefox but not SeaMonkey. I doubt LI supports SM anyway. My work around for now is I compose in another editor and copy/past into SM. A PITA but thankfully I don't do many linked in messages. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Google Search Tools broken
Yesterday Google's search broke for using the "Settings" or "Tools" feature in SM 2.40 for me. It works in Firefox still. If I try to use Tools I get the "any time" and "all results" to the right of Tools not below as it should be. I can't click on the time to change it. I tried an new clean profile with the same results. Any idea? Maybe it is time to update. If I do update what version? The new 2.46 just put out or one of the newer builds (2.47/2.48)? I'm not so worried about exploits as I am about functionality. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
