Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. Works fine with current SeaMonkey 2 development versions. How about usatoday.com? A rough estimate would be that 80% of the stories I link to from from news.google.com never load the page in SM but if I take the link into FFv3 they always load. In SM the window stays blank but the spinning circled arrow never stops. I can't see any problems there either with SeaMonkey 2, but of course I don't know what articles you're linking from elswhere. I'm assuming SM 2 and the updated rendering engine takes care of most of this. Basically I have several customized searches on google news. As I indicated about 80% or more of the time links to a USA today story (not the home page) fails to display anything or stop loading. But if I copy the link into FFv3 it works fine. Eagerly awaiting SMv2. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. Works fine with current SeaMonkey 2 development versions. How about usatoday.com? A rough estimate would be that 80% of the stories I link to from from news.google.com never load the page in SM but if I take the link into FFv3 they always load. In SM the window stays blank but the spinning circled arrow never stops. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:13:28 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: for what its worth, I can't enter anything in that field with Flock, Netscape 8 and 9, Firefox 2, or K-Meleon. But it will with FF 3, and Songbird. I guess its because of the newer code. Err, Flock 2.0 is based on Firefox 3.0 so I would think it's just bad browser sniffing. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:45:49 -0600, /Lemuel Johnson/: That's at best poorly written code. They've included the search text input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e., label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number input type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME/label It should be: label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number/labelinput type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME I don't know where you get that information. Input fields are just fine nested in a label. The label is implicitly associated with the form field and there's no need for 'id' and 'for' attributes that way http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-LABEL: To associate a label with another control implicitly, the control element must be within the contents of the LABEL element. In this case, the LABEL may only contain one control element. The label itself may be positioned before or after the associated control. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009. Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009. Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked. David Hi David, It is entirely possible that you're SO new to the group you haven't run across the multitude of posts talking about this, for the last month and more. Robert's point was, this question has been answered time and time again, literally dozens of times, yet people keep asking the same old thing, When is v.2.0 going to be released? They read but they don't LISTEN! I don't know of anyone who would have a better answer then Robert Kaiser, but people still keep asking, just like he had never even spoken a word! He used to say, When it's ready but the same question keeps up, continually. Considering the intelligence of 'the masses' it's little surprising. Welcome aboard, David. keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009. Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked. David go to the newsgroup and you'll find it: mozilla.support.seamonkey which is on the server: news.mozilla.org or visit google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/topics Time Warner has made news groups a hassle and I haven't bothered to work around them. I'll check out the google groups. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
keith_w wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009. Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked. David Hi David, It is entirely possible that you're SO new to the group you haven't run across the multitude of posts talking about this, for the last month and more. 24 hours. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:45:49 -0600, /Lemuel Johnson/: That's at best poorly written code. They've included the search text input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e., label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number input type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME/label It should be: label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number/labelinput type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME I don't know where you get that information. Input fields are just fine nested in a label. The label is implicitly associated with the form field and there's no need for 'id' and 'for' attributes that way http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-LABEL: To associate a label with another control implicitly, the control element must be within the contents of the LABEL element. In this case, the LABEL may only contain one control element. The label itself may be positioned before or after the associated control. I'm quite familiar with the standard. My interpretation is that you can use the explicit for/id method *or* the implicit method without the for/id. Using both clearly confuses a certain browser near to our hearts and is, IMHO, poorly written code. But we digress... lj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the previous postings. If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to look for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the last 10 or so. And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the last 24 hours and couldn't find it. Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for 24 hours. I knew I was likely asking a repeated question which is why I led with sorry. I liked the newsgroups but TWC dropped them and my other ISP portbrigde would re-number messages every few months as they switched providers which put my threaded reading out to lunch. I've basically given up on NGs for now. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the previous postings. If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to look for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the last 10 or so. And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the last 24 hours and couldn't find it. Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for 24 hours. I knew I was likely asking a repeated question which is why I led with sorry. I liked the newsgroups but TWC dropped them and my other ISP portbrigde would re-number messages every few months as they switched providers which put my threaded reading out to lunch. I've basically given up on NGs for now. David you don't need TWC to access the mozilla server. Its a separate server that TWC has nothing to do with them. Just create a new account. The server name is news.mozilla.org -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On 2/10/09 5:08 PM, _David L. Ross_ spoke thusly: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the previous postings. If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to look for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the last 10 or so. And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the last 24 hours and couldn't find it. Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for 24 hours. I knew I was likely asking a repeated question which is why I led with sorry. That's okay, we were all newbies once. Generally most mailing lists have a link to the archive on the list-info page. For support-seamonkey, there's a link at https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey: To see the collection of prior postings to this list... And of course, welcome to support-seamonkey. :-) -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia Keeper of the Knowledge Base: https://support.mozilla.com/kb/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
FF v3 into SeaMonkey
I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David Ross wrote: Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. This is not necessarily a problem of SM code but a problem of (bad) browser sniffing (on that web site). Did you try to fake your user agent? You can do it in your prefs, or with e.g. PrefBar (it's just one click). Could you send us several URL's that don't work? Hana ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David Ross wrote: Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. When it's really about the browser code, SeaMonkey 2 will have the same backend code and rendering engine as Firefox 3.1 - in some cases, it's bad web programming though that closes out SeaMonkey when it would work. Best is to download the latest SeaMonkey 2 Alpha and test. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:46:14 -0500, David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? The time frame is never since the next major version of SeaMonkey 2.0 will be sharing code with Firefox 3.1 (we are skipping 3.0). Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On 2/9/2009 5:46 AM, David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David Many of us hope that Firefox code will NEVER be in SeaMonkey. That's why we use SeaMonkey and not Firefox. What you want is SeaMonkey to include the latest Gecko rendering engine. Gecko is the component that interfaces with the Internet, sending requests to Web servers for HTML and other files, and displays the results. Several Mozilla products and non-Mozilla clones use Mozilla's Gecko. These include Firefox, SeaMonkey (but an older version of Gecko), Camino, and Thunderbird. There is, of course, another problem. Some (too many) Web sites sniff for what browser you are using. They sniff for Firefox when they should instead sniff for Gecko. This means that those Web sites are displayed okay by Firefox but not by SeaMonkey or Camino. There are several different work-arounds for this. I use the PrefBar extension to spoof Firefox (make the Web server think I'm using Firefox when I'm actually using SeaMonkey). There are other extensions with similar spoofing capabilities. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There are others I just haven't been keeping a list. I really like SM for it's integration, IMAP, and the ability to adjust the browser via the tools menu for cookies and such but the staff at the businesses I support are getting restless. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. for what its worth, I can't enter anything in that field with Flock, Netscape 8 and 9, Firefox 2, or K-Meleon. But it will with FF 3, and Songbird. I guess its because of the newer code. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On 02/09/2009 10:20 AM, David L. Ross wrote: John Doue wrote: As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There are others I just haven't been keeping a list. I really like SM for it's integration, IMAP, and the ability to adjust the browser via the tools menu for cookies and such but the staff at the businesses I support are getting restless. David That site: http://www.apple.com/support/ 1.1.14: Search Support bar doesn't work - Search (upper right does) 1.1.15pre: Search Support bar doesn't work - Search (upper right does) 2.0a3pre: Search Support bar works fine Fx 3.0.5: Search Support bar works fine Doesn't appear to be browser sniffing, as when I spoof 1.1.14/15pre as Fx it still doesn't work. Plus, if you turn off styles (View|Use Style|None) you then can enter information in Search Support. So, it looks like a style issue. File a bug report please. Hint: as a temp workaround, turn of default style, enter your search, then turn default style back on to view the page normally. Also, thereafter you can then use Search Support from that page it will work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On 02/09/2009 11:53 AM, Hana Skoumalova wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There must be something with CSS or with the graphics. The mouse focus is slightly higher than the search field. When I place the mouse to that field I can see a normal pointing cursor (an arrow), but when I move it slightly to the top, it changes into the text cursor. When I click, I can insert text in the field. Perhaps some experts here will know what's going there. Hana Ah, you are right (see my other posts for test w/1.1.14/15pre/2.0a3pre). Maybe they are looking for a MAC mouse :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There are others I just haven't been keeping a list. I really like SM for it's integration, IMAP, and the ability to adjust the browser via the tools menu for cookies and such but the staff at the businesses I support are getting restless. David That's at best poorly written code. They've included the search text input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e., label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number input type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME/label It should be: label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number/labelinput type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME You could make a good argument that SM is doing the right thing. lj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Lemuel Johnson wrote: David L. Ross wrote: Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There are others I just haven't been keeping a list. I really like SM for it's integration, IMAP, and the ability to adjust the browser via the tools menu for cookies and such but the staff at the businesses I support are getting restless. That's at best poorly written code. They've included the search text input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e., label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number input type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME/label It should be: label for=FIELDNAMEEnter keywords or serial number/labelinput type=TEXT id=FIELDNAME You could make a good argument that SM is doing the right thing. Yes I could. And that be the start of the process to replace me. I know there's a lot of crappy web sites out there. But my clients have to use them and have little to no leverage over getting them fixed. So I can either tell them to be pure and virtuous or help them do what's needed to get their work done. Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
David L. Ross wrote: Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready? Quarter? Year? sometime between now and December 31, 2009! ;-) -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
On 2/9/2009 11:54 AM, NoOp wrote: On 02/09/2009 10:20 AM, David L. Ross wrote: John Doue wrote: As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. There are others I just haven't been keeping a list. I really like SM for it's integration, IMAP, and the ability to adjust the browser via the tools menu for cookies and such but the staff at the businesses I support are getting restless. David That site: http://www.apple.com/support/ 1.1.14: Search Support bar doesn't work - Search (upper right does) 1.1.15pre: Search Support bar doesn't work - Search (upper right does) 2.0a3pre: Search Support bar works fine Fx 3.0.5: Search Support bar works fine Doesn't appear to be browser sniffing, as when I spoof 1.1.14/15pre as Fx it still doesn't work. Plus, if you turn off styles (View|Use Style|None) you then can enter information in Search Support. So, it looks like a style issue. File a bug report please. Hint: as a temp workaround, turn of default style, enter your search, then turn default style back on to view the page normally. Also, thereafter you can then use Search Support from that page it will work. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 I went to the cited site. The Search Support bar (the one with the default input Enter keywords or serial number) worked fine searching on quicktime. I then did the same search in the smaller input area at the top-right corner of the page. While it accepted my input, it reported that the search failed. Terminating SeaMonkey, resetting my cookies, and restarting SeaMonkey, searching for quicktime in the upper-right corner worked. The page has 10 HTML errors. I suspect it also has logical errors in how it handles cookies. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Don't ask Why is there road rage? Instead, ask Why NOT Road Rage? or Why Is There No Such Thing as Fast Enough? http://www.rossde.com/roadrage.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: David L. Ross wrote: John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. Just asking. Not yelling. David As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. John Doue wrote: David Ross wrote: I'm sure this is discussed somewhere but I can't find it. I just signed up for this list. Is there a time frame for when the FF v3 code will be a part of SM? I and others are running into a lot of web sites that just don't work (in various ways) with SM but work fine with FF v3. As Hana suggests, a short list would be interesting since I actually find that SM 1.1.13 very seldom lets me down in this respect. I actually fear that new SM versions, by integrating some code, will actually make more difficult accessing a number of sites which it will deem unsafe or some other qualificative. We already experienced this with version 1.1.14. Here's one I just hit. Visit www.apple.com/support/ SM will not let me enter text into the search field. The one on the left. FF will. Been this way for a few weeks. for what its worth, I can't enter anything in that field with Flock, Netscape 8 and 9, Firefox 2, or K-Meleon. But it will with FF 3, and Songbird. I guess its because of the newer code. I can enter text into the search field using SM 1.1.14, but there is trick to it: put the cursor arrow over the search box, then slowly move it up until it turns into a text cursor ( I ). Type your entry. For me, the arrow turns to the text cursor I just before the point of the arrow reaches the top of the box. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey
flyguy wrote: I can enter text into the search field using SM 1.1.14, but there is trick to it: put the cursor arrow over the search box, then slowly move it up until it turns into a text cursor ( I ). Type your entry. For me, the arrow turns to the text cursor I just before the point of the arrow reaches the top of the box. yes, it works that way. Interesting that FF3 works without trickery, so maybe SM2 will work the same. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
